Shout-out to Miltech Simulations for saying their FS20 aircraft will be updated for free for FS24 as soon as it comes out!

I share some of your concerns, but I think it’s too early to jump to any conclusions, at least until there is a lot more detail provided in the monthly dev updates. The trailer showed a lot of nice things as to how they’ll improve immersion, which makes sense since that’s what sells it for 80% of users, but it doesn’t mean the details you mentioned didn’t get implemented for us in the 20%. I imagine it’ll be feasible to install both 2020 and 2024 side by side, so that at least we can have a period where we use both, as things get updated and moved over, which is what I intend on doing. Thanks for the video Blu!

The biggest thing that MS2024 needs to be able to spread the workload over all threads of the CPU. It is absolutely insane that the current one only works on 1 or 2 threads of the CPU. It's 2024, let's not use 1998 coding anymore.

I pray the default atc is somewhat fixed and doesn’t fly you into mountains

Yep, have a big motion platform and when moving from DCS to MSFS to differences in heave are immediately noticeable.

I think the key thing missed in this video was the talk about Marketplace items being moved over right? PMDG for example is on the marketplace so I'd imagine it also move along as normal. Of course we're five months out from an actual release. I think we'll probably get more clarity as we get closer to release.

I have a question! Does the current 2020 sim have multi screen? Many years ago I could do it. All I can do is stretch the view to my 2nd and 3rd screen, which distorts the view. Your thoughts?

1:55 Am I the only one who noticed in their trailer this helicopter has the main rotor turning correctly, but the tail rotor is turning backwards?

I'm a real world pilot light single and twins.i use VR for that real experience and the only unrealistic thing for me is the crosswind .You won't get anything as bad as that in the real thing well over the top.

My question is will new planes like the Airbus 330 by Aerosoft will be available for folks that own msfs2020 as a downloadable/payware olanes that will work on msfs2020? Backward capabilities

Alot of dev have no more info than us on the backwards compatibility of their add-ons, and Microsoft confirmed that they will give an early version to developers so they can verify that it works correctly as I understood

Actually I have the same concerns. 1 won’t it be too much of a game instead of a simulator. 2 will my add ons work properly. Is it really better from a flightsimmer point of view. For myself I’ll wait like six months before I consider to move to msfs 2024 . I aspect a lot of issues in the beginning and I’m interested in a realistic flight experience without having problems with the software.

As a developer what I can say about retro compatibility is that the add ons will work as expected(assuming great retro compatibility is implemented), but if you want the new features to work, the developer will probably need to roll out an update. For example, android 14 still supports older apps build for older version of android(for example, if I build an app for android 10, it will work on android 14), It work’s but new features that came with android 15 won’t work until the developer updates the app.

I’m sticking with 2020 until I see how good it really is, and if my stuff will still work.

Agree with these and other comments - even though I cleared coaches, shaders on pc and game the dam micro stutters every time arriving at airports etc is a must fix for me in either version 🤔

Remember when PMDG was developing a 777?

biggest concern is the flight model as it is probably optimized for xbox players on xbox controllers so they can easily do the helicopter pickup missions

Oh blu! Its been a while man. You bring me nostalgia of pre fs2020 lockdown vibes. The background music is beautiful man, adds to the feeling of nostalgia. What is the music bro?

Blu, Bluebird was talking about updating their 757 to take advantage of any needed NEW features made available in 2024. For now, the assumption is that all of the planes will work with the old FM in play and third party devs will opt into the new one which doesn't take a lot of work to do.

Weird how my brother saw me flying on FS2020 and asked if there are things to do like transport or jobs kinda like roadrunner. I told him this new one might be like that. I hope its both a sim and somewhat a game.

Looking forward to what Jorge has to say at Expo next week on this topic. The flight model is a much debated aspect of MSFS 2020. I have many IRL pilots that recently moved from XP over to MSFS and their biggest gripe is the flight model and how the planes handle on the ground. Really hoping with all the new bells and whistles and programming that they can improve 2024 in various areas.

Also wonder if the career style applications like A Pilots Life 2 from Simbit World how will that be compatible. Or virtual airline addons.

I have very similar concerns, thanks for making this video! personally I plan to hang back on release until the dust settles and we know what's what regarding add-ons. Honestly, as cool as the new sim looks, I don't feel a rush to jump on board like I did when 2020 launched since 2020 is great, so may even give it a year for all the major bugs to be ironed out.

I mean most of us serious flyers fly payware anyway. I barely use default aircrafts

How much will the professional edition cost? I hear it will be pricey.

My concern is that MSFS 2024 will be a game rather than a simulator

Seems like you are reading way too much into this. If a developer says they are developing for 2020, then it just means they want to reach the larger user base of 2020 than target something for a smaller user base in 2024. It does not mean the aircraft will not work for 2024. The way Seb spoke about the enhancements, you'll get some for free, the more complex ones you'll need to tweak and enable. Providing a free update is what all developers should be aiming for, this is BAU, there's absolutely nothing to be concerned with here.

Main question - do I have to buy a new computer to run this?

Hopefully all these questions will be answered at Flight Sim expo…please do let us know so we can decide what to do come November. Thanks 🙏🏽

I'll hope for; different modes, ie gammer, simmer, flight sim geek. 2) Better VRMR support. 3) Better Mapping/SDK to and of Peripherals. Software cross over? Hope for free, expect we'll see some upgrade charges however. Thanks for the thoughts.

These are good questions and concerns. It's dad that we aren't able to ask these to the devs and actually get answers. I also am concerned about the development cycle taking a long time. The Sim drops in mid November but then they do monthly updates which makes me feel like we'll get an incomplete sim that takes 10 years to complete.... again. I was happy to hear that VR would be available day 1.

I expect nothing from 20 to 24 so, therefore, I'll be happy with whatever happens. Maybe it's because I'm old(er) but as long as I can breathe, have all my limbs, and can reasonably get around, it's a good day... yeah, sure... this can cause anxiety, but there's so much more out there to be anxious over... such as will PMDG hold off their release of the 777-300ER until 2024 at this juncture? In the meantime between XP/MSFS I'm quite occupied with what I have.

My head hurts. My mid-range PC can barely run 2020. What happens now?

I'm looking forward to MSFS 2024 but I am worried about the VR experience just being ported and not worked on properly, it felt like getting blood from a stone just to get conformation of VR support

what's the price for 2024 sim

I think Imma get the 2024 on day one… but I’m gonna keep the 2020 alongside the new sim. I should’ve done that with the XP11 to XP12 transition, but I didn’t have disk space at that time.

I have 2 concerns. Will my hundreds of dollars worth of addons work on day 1? I highly DOUBT it. Also, will we all need to spend a ANOTHER 1k + on a new video card as we all did so that MSFS2020 could run at a decent frame rate?

The flight models are pretty good for a simulator. They could always be better. I currently hold a commercial pilot license with a seaplane, multi engine, night rating, just finishing my multi IFR and airline transport pilot license soon. My current training is on a PA44 Seminole and the Carenado model is pretty good. Yes, it’s could be better… but I think the biggest things missing is the forces on the controls to get the real feeling of the aircraft. The biggest issue is how seaplanes handles, but I think that’s something that could be fixed over time.

I feel the activities will be static scripted events like the landing challenges that once you do it there is no reason to do it again. They will just add new ones with patches and there wont be like a dynamic mission list to choose from. Would be nice to be wrong.

Can anyone explain me the hype around the A330? We already have a good freeware one for 2020?

Hopefully we'll get a much better development rate of 3rd party study level aircraft addons for 2024. How many study level aircraft do we have for MSFS2020 over 4 1/2 years in? like 4 or 5? So many new study level planes were supposed to drop by now, yet we are still waiting. For example, the 777 seems to have vanished from development existence as far as I know!

the number one concern has to be the performance, no? will you get above 20fps with anything less than a 5090ti?

I’m worried, did they say anything on pricing? I wonder, with even more streaming of data and scenery, will they make it a subscription?

Is the CRJ550-700 from Aerosoft? I have that one & it is broken, the auto pilot won't work

I thought the devs talked about updating the code that is behind the sim, so it runs more efficiently and up to date code that is used more nowadays instead of the older code that was used in FSX etc. Thing is if the code is truly changed, how will the older products that were designed in the old code work in the 2024 sim. sure hope the default aircraft physics is on the same level of the PMDG / ini builds type aircraft. I will wait a little while one 2024 is released and see what the reviews so.

Wondering the same thing myself. I hope they have drastically improved the flight model.

I like to get games/simulations at launch, I did with MSFS as with other favorite titles. But this time I will probably wait a couple of months. Not too much for the issue of addons but rather because of the early bugs that we always get. Plus the fact that I am still happy with the MSFS 2020 so I don’t feel an urgent need to update. The jump from MS FSX to MSFS2020 was way more exiting…

what about the honeycomb Aeronautical simulator will this match with the new game 2024

I only just got a computer strong enough to upgrade to 2020FSM, better graphics. but I like how FSX worked better. pivoting around external view with the hat switch and I miss the missions, it looks like they are bringing back missions in 2024

Microsoft said that they will give developers the SDK well before FS24 is out so products should be fully compatible by release date if developers don’t slack

I'm sticking with flight simulator 2020 myself at this point. I have everything set up how I like it and so many add-ons for it I don't want to have to transition into a new product yet that is probably going to be buggy and have issues for some time. I'm also concerned about it being more like a game than an actual simulator.

I agree with basically everything you have said in this video, but I also wanted to add another thing. What happens to MSFS 2020 and its satellite data streaming service? I can only assume that once the new simulator releases at the end of this year, it will only be a matter of time before they cut the servers for the scenery streaming for MSFS 2020 and switch them over to 2024? Maybe they will not do that, and will keep servers for both sims for a long time, but it should be a big concern for MSFS 2020 users. Luckily, I'm still using X-Plane 11 anyway, although if MSFS 2024 releases with a vastly improved flight model that competes more closely with X-Plane and P3D, as well as having good compatibility with existing aircraft (particularly the Fenix A320 as I really exclusively fly the A320 series), I would consider switching. For now though, X-Plane 11 is still a very competent simulator even if I do have about 400gb of mods.

These concerns seems like normal issues that will come. You can technically put a transmission made for 500hp on a 1000hp engine, but it won’t work well if at all. This was clear with Xplane 11-12. It will be the same for at least a year with Aircraft for MSFS. It will also take scenery some time to come over.

Had the same situation with xp 11 and xp 12 still waiting for thranda to update my Bae 146 which cost me around $150 nz dollars to xp 12 and the fjs 727/737 to xp 12 ,orbx charged me around $10 nz dolllars to update great Britain to xp 12.probably happen to msfs.

Blue Game thanks for the vid. I have the same questions. I've been a MSFS user since 2000 (I've owned all the editions). I've purchased aircraft scenery, aircraft flight sim magazines and multiple types of hardware (PC, joysticks/throttle rudder pedals etc.). If what I currently own for 2020 (PMDG aircraft and scenery) don't cross over this maybe the end of the line for this hobby. I've invested to much $$$$ to have to replace it all again or wait months for potential updates. I also have P3D with multiple aircraft/sceneries when i step away for a year or two while awaiting 2020 edition. Heartbroken!

Fully agree with the 3rd point. Msfs was released in 2020 and we got to 2024 with PMDG T7 to finally have everything we used to have back in the hangar. Well, with some exceptions, for me notably the Q400.

I’m guessing it will take 1-2 years for major developers to release updates for our favorite addons in order for them to be fully compatible with MSFS 2024. And like you, I’m gonna wait for my favorite aircraft to be available for 2024 before moving over to the sim.

i feel the same as you do. The flight model still leaves to be desired, especially on default planes.

All true!! Nice review man keep it up!!

Great video and couldn't agree more with everything you brought up 👍

You have a great voice and excellent presentation skills. I hope you leverage them into a fantastic career. Best wishes.

Hello hello from France bro ! You're right !

The new xp 12 does not change the old planes flight model cause the sim is the flight model not the planes. The airfoil is what affect the flight characteristics.

Ok first you state that you want a better flight model, but then you also want to be able to use your old planes. I think iit'll be either one or the other. if they improve the FM to a big extent, as you want them to, then your old planes need to at least be updated. So there may be in interim in which they don't work properly, unless the old FM is left in an another option, like they currently do with the legacy model. Anyway I'm not worried. I convinced this will be an awesome sim, even if it may have some initial bugs, as all complex apps initually have. But it'll be another swesome ride, despite all the worried minds out there. Either way you can always run MSFS 2020 next to the new one, if you don't feel confident about migrating :) For me, MSFS 2020 already feels dated after having seen the trailer for ''24 and Novenber can't come soon enough!

Great video. You hit the nail on the head about the three of the four most important concerns. Others worry about puffy clouds and being able to destroy their airplane by flying into a thunderstorm. I'm most concerned about two things: 1. The flight model physics. Will all the planes I own now be improved? Or will I need to buy all new ones? In all honesty, if I buy a 3rd party $30 FS2020 plane, and the dev wants to charge me $5 to revamp it for FS2024, I'll be fine with that. As for how long it takes...Microsobo need to give 3rd parts devs the new SDK ASAP. 2. Multi-core optimizations. If you fly in FS2020, you know. 'Nuff said. I also hope and pray the new SaaS model works. Recent connection problems (being discussed at length on the MSFS forum) make me nervous about the future.

My question is just… why? Its the same engine and everything with a minor update thats getting put into 2020? Why does 24 have to exist? It just adds revamped missions and will prob add a ton of instability

I spent way too much on the PMDG 737 to not have it in MSFS 2024. I am for sure staying back till that plane is supported.

I am using REX AccuSeason. Hope they will adapt their mod to the new sim, as 2020, for a VFR flyer like me, is awful without some scenery and weather addons, including REX.

I was hoping for a lot more info about the base sim itself rather than just another trailer that was basically the same as last year. Hopefully we'll get a lot more info at FlightSim Expo. I actually really think MSFS 2024 will be WAY better in every way than 2020. It's an entirely new engine instead of the SUPER old FS9 engine which was the source of most of the issues with it's limitations.

I heard they had to rewrite the code form scratch and get rid of the crappy fsx code

I just like to fly about not bothered taking it seriously. Which is good becase all the flights I've done i have never managed to actually land anything.. .

I don’t think we have enough information out to be either worried or excited yet.

Whole heartily agree with everything you said. Great video.

How about graphics… my computer cant even handle medium qaultiy on 2020

I'll just use 2020 until 2024 is stable and compatible with my add-ons. I've done this when 2020 came out. I've used FSX until June 2022

Currently there is two ways of coding aircraft into MSFS and MSFS2024 will supports both: XML code- goes back all the way back to FSX. this is a very old technology and very inefficient. HTML5/JS and C++/WASM - This is a better way to code complex aircraft and more efficient. And I believe MSFS2024 will switch all to this coding eventually.

I massively agree with the first point I fly a cessna 152 irl and in game it feels like and arcade

PC requirements should be the same as for FS2020. I hope to see more retro planes. FS2020 add-ons will be compatible with 2024.

in fsx/p3d i use alot of addons ai traffic but the msfs ai traffic is so bad that so i use mods

My biggest concern is my PMDG aircraft as those are my most expensive ones

Scenery probably will work, but perhaps will stick out like a sore thumb. You notice all human figures now move in the sim. Most the current scenery, there will be a couple moving figures, but most are static. You will notice landing in an airport where people are frozen. Also, the ground vehicles seen are very detailed now. Some current scenery, the ground vehicles aren't all that detailed. And as you mentioned, grass now moves, etc. However a lot of scenery, they put in their own custom textures. So you will have grass blowing outside the airport, but grass off the runway is just static texture. The bar for quality has been raised.

Fenix and PMDG, now those are realistic planes with amazing flight models! I'm just gonna sit back and wait for the reviews and patches for MS2024!

I just want to know if my planes will carry over

What if you don’t want fs2024??? Do we think fs2020 will still be playable? I’m starting to not want a new game but will be big time disappointed if they won’t let us stay on 2020

Would love an actual working weather radar.

Ya, a great game that accelerated the acquisition of my pilots license! Careers will further enhance aviation learning just like in the real world!

I'm an old school "sinner" ah I mean simmer.. and to me I like to keep things simple.. I have a basic set up. (Laptop, ..joystick.yoke..pedals throttle ..pedals .) Everything shuld be portable and carry ready.. I still use MSFS 2002 PROFESIONAL EDITION..( It keeps me current on basic operatios of the basic airplane I fly the Cessna 172...or Baron Beechcraft.. I got my PPL in 1979 and flight Sims were primitive...and lacking but it keep me sharp in basic procedures..ie Preflight..Startup..Communication..flight maneuvers..take off and landings techniques..navigation (VOR..ADF..) Anything else was like..icing on the cake.. Flying is a very physical activity and there is a lot of "bumping and grinding" going on in real airplanes.. I haven't dip my toes into the new waters yet.. MSFS 2020 YET... I am still reticent...like an innocent young lady going to her first dance.. I have seen the good..the bad..and the ugly of flight sims.. And know the pitfalls of investing in the wrong flight sims.. I am a DIY type..so I like building things in my garage that don't cost too much..(cheap..) Anyway...I like what I see for the future of flight simulator tech.. But just remember this.. Simulators are Tools...NOT TOYS. TRAINING IS THEIR #1 GOAL... CYA... 🐦 ❤

I dont have most of these concerns, imho MSFS has the most accurate flight model out there, can it be improved? yes, but I d say its already on a path of diminishing returns, whats holding it back is are well defined planes, fine tuned so well, that only a few payware addons reach that level of quality at this point. With addon compatibility I think its not really that much of a technical jump to create much of opportunity for issues, like some points which may be small compatibility issues is stuff like planes that do not have openable doors or their doors open in a way, that was not considered in development of FS24, lack of defined places on planes for new features, like not defined hooks where the ropes shold go on, and minor stuff like that. My biggest concern with 24 is how fast internet connection will it need to run & look smooth, second after that is how long will it take for wishlisted stuff that is planned for MSFS24+ to get into the game, especially the Shared cocpit & Force feedback support (tho that one also kinda depends on hw manufacturers), and my third concern is that the MS will still want to avoid having weapons in the game, which imho really holds it back, tho there is a ray of hope, considering that in the new trailer the A-10 seems to have a gun (tho its so blurry shot, we can only guess)

I'll repeat my comments from a similar YT: My main concern is if they'll finally get AI-based ATC to work. The biggest roadblock to immersion (and usefulness to real-world pilots) is being able to "realistically fly IFR in the system" and both MSFS 2020 and X-Plane 12 still have a long way to go in that regard. It's really frustrating when your outgoing transmission choices are very limited compared to what they are IRL and some of the ridiculous routing (particularly approach vectoring) provided. These are supposed to be sims, not games, and that needs to be higher-priority than the areas they highlight in the teasers.

My concern is that it will require a monthly subscription fee.

I'm worried too, mostly because Microsoft had at least 4 years to get MSFS 2020 right, and they failed. So will this be another case of 'Don't worry, well fix that on the next update' repeat... forever?

I'll wait a week and see the ratings before I buy the new flight SIM for my rig

The "minor" details us nerds care about normies would notice if they weren't there. They matter. As for our addons, I think non upgraded 2020 mods will be free, but will lack any additional functionality that 2024 is going to offer like whatever mission and economy functionality it's going to have. I'll bet you'll have to pay for the updated versions. Somebody said PMDG has already stated this will be the case.

Please, a replay system that's like the Aerofly FS4 replay system! The 'experimental' replay system in MSFS 2020 is clumsy, not intuitive.

If you think for one second that your aircraft from 2020 will work flawlessly as they did, you are thinking wrong.. Laminar Research said the same thing and it eventually turned out that yes you could load them in a fly them, but they weren't realistic or as they were before, things were broken and ultimately the promise they made was sugar coated to prevent customer upset, which eventually happened anyway. In my experience I 'lost' a good amount of my favourite aircraft in the transition even though it was said they would all work, so take it with a pinch of salt because they just like to take your money and leave you living in hope that one day those planes will work which they wont unless the developer cares to update it..

I doubt many of the non-aircraft addons will work at all. I imagine the aircraft themselves will work, but only at their current level of fidelity, unless further upgraded to the 2024 flight model. Speaking of flight models, I really hope they give the helicopters some attention. Not many of us have flown them in real life, but if you have, you know incomplete and lacking in fun, the current rotary wing flight model is. Keeping my fingers crossed!

From what I’ve heard almost all mods for fs2020 will work for fs2024

I still don't understand the point od releasing 2024. Couldn't they just update 2020? Those who are long enough with this sim remember updates weighing 40GB, 25GB or so, changing a lot of how the sim worked, screwing a lot of addons at a time. Why can't they come out and say"look guys, we gonna release 100GB update, it will be a pain, but this is what you gonna get. The graphics on 2024 is not that mich different to 2020

Not the old flight model argument again, I am a real world pilot,I have friends who are real world pilots and they are all happy with the current flight model. Of course there is always room for tweaking but it’s pretty damm close to real, there are variances due to how developers tune that model, no Simulator will ever match the real world experience even with motion rigs. Even in real world conditions two identical type aircraft will have their differences. Bottom line is, It’s a Simulator and the best you can hope for is something similar to how the real aircraft behaves. If you think your going to jump from any Simulator into the real world and expect to fly without proper real aircraft experience then your fooling yourself.

Hey men, love your videos, but it seems like you are completely not up to date, they have made it clear that the msfs2020 addons will be able for the player, to convert to msfs2024, and that they will give the developers early acces to the SDK to make use of the new flight model. The last one seems very logic for me, as you stated that with Xp12 you have the same as Xp11 and that devs need to update it to have the new features. Love from Amsterdam brother