Depression is no joke, and buying watches is no solution

That’s the reason why ADs are becoming more and more picky in terms of customers. It’s full of people who buy watches with no love for the brand whatsoever and then just resell them probably with a profit. I was so excited after your review, I really thought you were a true and passionate watch lover. Very disappointing.

I bet there was someone else waiting for the watch to arrive at that Vegas AD who would have happily held onto the watch for a long time and not publicly embarrassed the AD.

no one flips their “grail”. it was not your grail!

Let's be honest, he fooled all of us. He bought the watch to flip. There's a lot of people like him and is part of the reason so many watches are not available these days with crazy aftermarket prices. It was only a few years ago you could go walk into an AD and pick up a Daytona. Just disappointing how vain society has become.

"I will never use the term grail again, well I probably will" Bruce Williams This video hurts me deeply. VC Overseas is such a beautiful piece.

I wouldn’t have been surprised if it was any other watch, but this is your grail! You’re not supposed to sell it only a few months after buying it 😂

It's because "having things" can't make you happy. The eternal pursuit of fulfillment through consumerism will never end - because there is no gold at the end of the rainbow. One must find peace and fulfillment in spiritual truths, because you'll never ever find it in the physical.

I thought you were a collector. You are just another flipper looking to make a few bux. What a disappointment.

I’ll only be convinced you truly collect watch experiences if you sell that Hulk. Then I know you mean business

That moment when you realize your hyped up "grail" watch doesn't necessarily equate to more enjoyment.

You're a mad man! I'd have sold that Hulk 10x over before selling the Overseas.

Real reason = Cant afford to keep it is the real reason... This often happens - people realise they can't really afford to keep items such like this.

The real lesson here? Learn how to be content and be happy of what you have....

Translation: you need to keep cranking out more videos to keep your channel going, and you've decided that you've wrung as much content from the Overseas as you're going to. Also selling the watch and using the proceeds to buy other watches will provide more video fodder. To each their own, but I understand that you jumped the line at the dealer where you bought the Overseas, in front of people with more of a purchase history who would have kept the watch. And given the increase in popularity of the watch and Vacheron's move to a boutique-only distributionfor that particular model, some of the people who have been waiting may not be able to get the watch from that dealer at all. All of this to say that you've burned some bridges in certain corners, which if you continue to do so, will impact your viewership in the long run. I for one am unsubscribing and hiding your channel from my feed.

Bruce is going to collect regret experiences, too! The black three-hand Overseas, is my ultimate grail.

If you’re a flipper, grail just seems out of place. So, yeah, don’t use that term again lol

Expressing the worst aspects of this hobby we have, and such a bad example for folks

"I don't collect watches, I collect watch experiences" oh man that sounds even more expensive.

Wow! Sad you let this one go. What a stunner

Honestly, I'm starting to feel that you and Watch Andrew are in some kind of unacknowledged competition to see who can flip the most watches in any given calendar year! 😂😂😂😂

Lol these are trading in the high 40's now. Right after flipping it for $1k over retail. Lmao

Bruce “Flipper” Williams LOL

I sold my grail because having something isn't as pleasing as wanting it. -BW

Santos for Overseas? no way!

Contributing to the problem in this hobby

Sounds like you don't actually LOVE watches. You just like the momentary high of feeling like you bought something expensive. I know people with $500-2000K watches that cannot afford the fancy grail watches or Rolexes, but LOVE their watches and will keep them for life. I know people that probably love their modified SKX, more than you actually loved your watch.

Why we are turning to other channels. Reviews mean nothing if you don’t mean what you say.

Honestly that hurts. I feel like I helped you out and I would do it again for my friends. I get its your watch and you can do what you want but it does suck for me just as someone in the hobby. Just my feeling.

This is all about buying and selling new watches to continue pumping out new content. I don't see how it's been so difficult for people to pick up on that. Instead of buying a few 7k - 15k luxury watches and being stuck with them and making occasional wear update videos , why not introduce a revolving door system of constantly buying and selling new watches allowing you to continue to pump out new content of new luxury watches and grow your channel. I have a feeling that was the main factor in his decision. It allows him to continue to pump out new content and not go broke doing it. He's gone from being a true watch collector to now more of a media content creation guy that just appreciates watches and makes review content on watches. Nothing wrong with that, but I believe that is the true driver of the whole " I collect watch experiences, not watches". I could be completely wrong but just my 2 cents.

Flipper for Life....called it when you first shared the purchase.

I see a lot of ticked off people commenting about flipping. I don’t see a problem with flipping which just means buying, experiencing, and then moving on (which usually incurs a loss but sometimes a profit). It’s the scalping that is the problem which is buying with intent to resell for profit. Big difference.

Once the novelty wears off, it's just a nice watch. And then you realise that the price is just ridiculous and it's not worth it

Ironic... I’m watching this hours before picking up my “grail/next watch” Overseas blue dial at the Vacheron boutique today after a 5 month wait. Good luck on your watch journey man, gotta follow your heart.

Great topic. I've sold many watches resulting in seller's regret including my blue Monster SBDC067 that I wore in Maui 2 years ago. On the other hand, if I kept all those watches, my collection would be 20, which would for me be unmanageable, so there is no right answer in keeping and selling watches. Getting a grail isn't the point. Enjoying a watch is, which is why less expensive timepieces can sometimes satisfy more than luxury brands.

You bought it, churned as much content as you can, sold it for profit. That’s %100 fine but at least be upfront about it.

Not suprised..he likes flipping more than Flipper the dolphin🤣

Wow Bruce the VC blue dial is a generational watch. One that stays in the collection and passes down to your children. All the best stay healthy and safe.

Bruce people listen to you and you carry considerable influence in the watch community on KZfaq and I didn't expect you would do this with a watch that people don't get easily and that too making a profit from it and on top that selling it someone who will make further profit is not acceptable. This sort of practice encourages the grey market and it flourishes. Sad!

This is like divorcing the women of your dreams straight back from your honeymoon 😂

VC overseas 4500v blue dial is my grail watch and I’m happy I found it. Furthermore I’m kind of tired of rolex………..which I owned 6 and have stopped chasing after I found my grail.

Santos is as special as the Overseas? I guess that’s a subjective statement.

Yeah this video continues to make me angry. I even showed it to the AD whoI believe sold the watch to you (Belusso?). They weren't pleased either. What a waste of a Overseas. Used to just churn youtube content and tossed aside.

"I collect watch experiences" . . .Good Lord. Must be nice to be able to drop $20K + on a VC just for the "'experience". Or maybe you're NOT able to do that and just got hit with a credit card statement . Who knows. But this guy, that statement and this channel has no rational relevance to people like me anymore.

A man only needs two luxury wrist watches. Going above two timepieces and one will realize, that one or two watches, will always be the favorite out of the 3, 4, 5, 6 you may have. One or two out of the bunch, will always be the ones you cherish the most !

Brucey it was never your grail watch.

I thought you’d sell it later down the road like after a year or two. Can’t wait to see your next watch experience.

No one can argue with enjoying an amazing watch for several months and not losing a penny on it. win / win

In other words, you “collect” watch videos but have a limited budget.

The Santos in Medium is on my list too! Would be my first luxury piece but now I’m scared of I get it I might flip it at some point! 😅

You're crazy Bruce. The Vacheron and the Rolex AK should have stayed in the collection IMO.

Typically, I'm a "set and forget" kind of person so I think it would be possible for me to achieve my grail pieces and be satisfied (at least until they break or something)

This was the most anticipated most shocking ending since the final episode of the sopranos 😂

Hoooly shit that bezel was sick.I wouldnt sell it I think.

Interesting you kept the hulk over this. Would like to know the reasoning behind that in your next vid since they're trading at similar prices.

How does your local Rolex AD even entertain you when you keep flipping the watches?

Flippers 🐬🐬🐬

If you were willing to let go of your grail, how much you wanna sell your Hulk?

I would say, I have several grail watches in different categories. There is no "one and only watch" that will make me completely happy, but I can imagine a collection of grails that will satisfy me for 100%

Can’t believe you sold it. I thought you had such a perfect three piece with the Hulk and Speedy. The quest continues...

Agree. He probably bought it knowing will be gone in a month or so lol.

"I collect watch collecting experiences" is such a dumb thing to say. Either you commit to the watch or you sell it ... So if I go to the patek boutique and try some models I collected some experiences as well?! This is not watch collecting, its fantasy watch collecting and speculation on higher prices....

How does a rolex dealer willingly sell you a watch LOL you are almost a grey market dealer

Knew you’d sell the Overseas sooner rather than later. You don’t appear like the kind of guy who is used to owning a high horology piece, incl. the price tag that goes with it. Won’t be surprised if you never actually wore it out of the house

guess it wasn't really a grail. I think you also would have made much more selling it today..

Love the Santos, don't think you lose much.

what if your Rolex AD hears this, you flipped the gmt, hulk next? If you flipp that I’ll be suprised if they sell to you again.

Well said Bruce " I DON'T COLLECT WATCHES, I COLLECT EXPERIENCES". Just let me know when you get tired of the Rolex Hulk, I still looking to get that experience. Enjoy you only live once.

I’ve sold several watches to David SW and every transaction has been flawless!

I’m both shocked and disappointed now go in the corner and think what you did young man.

So many people getting their knickers in a twist that he sold the VC; it’s his watch, and he’s enjoying the ongoing collection journey. Each to their own and it’s not mine or anyone else’s place to say “how” someone should collect.

I wudnt have sold the overseas but that’s just me, respect your decision to move on . That blue dial that u let go is irreplaceable imo

Called it a while ago, seemed like you were forcing the issue, you seemed to like your Hulk/others more, plus it’s not all that great. My 126200 DJ36 (black dial, smooth bezel, oyster bracelet) is my current 1 watch and will be with me forever or until I pass it down, it’s so versatile and comfortable and I always want to wear it. My grail is a Patek Philippe 5227 with officer’s case back.

Absolutely shocked. Was it really a grail?

I think your approach is very healthy and enlightened. Collecting experiences instead of letting the thing own you and always willing to let go. Good for you Bruce.

I think you are a more level headed man than me....I sold my Overseas two weeks ago and I'm in remorse ever since but you won't be I know ....😂😂😫😫

It’s like you’re telling us to hop on that great cruise and than you get off at the first stop.

The last time I was shocked at a watch was you 3rd MM300...When you sold that watch I knew nothing is a keeper for you. I can't wait to see what you get next. 😊👍

Good for you Bruce, I've given up on having a "theme" for my collection, I don't do grail, exit, or milestone watches, I just impulse buy everything, sometimes I keep them sometimes I don't 🤷 I don't put too much thaught into it either way

Please don’t take this the wrong way, it’s coming from a place of admiration for your content and for your enthusiasm. I follow your channel for a long time and every time you sell a timepiece you have passionately owned it’s really disappointing. I understand your explanation. You had your experience with it and it’s time to move on, try different things, even fund the next watch (we all know this hobby is not cheap) and I think that hoarding watches is not the way to go. I got why you sold most watches to keep those three. But this one, after a few months, the lust, the build up, the exposure to the enthusiasm of owning it. I’m not going as far as to side you with the professional flippers that are spoiling the fun for enthusiasts. I know you are straightforward with AD’s and you are a great guy, no doubt. It could be that I’m jealous for not being able to sell watches I lusted after and finally got. Honest thoughts from a fan. And hey, it’ll be a lot of fun to see what you get next.

If I could sell my watches for more than I paid, I would sell them too. No brainer. Sadly when I flip I'm usually losing 30%+

No shame or explanation needed. It’s a hobby, not a value system, or religion or life and death.

Getting rid of a watch like the VC seems crazy? Other than your wife telling you it is her versus the VC, I just don’t get it. Most of us can’t afford to ever get a VC or whatever watch is their grail watch. For you to have it in your hands, and get rid of it after only 8-12 months just seems unbelievable. Also to trade a VC for a Santos is not an equal trade by any stretch of the imagination. Oh well…

You pose a good question.. or at least the idea of not having a grail or keeper comes up. I mean what does it mean when I keep rebuying basically the same model over and over again? Is it an experience I like to have from time to time? Or should it be acknowledged maybe this should be the watch I actually keep ( cuz it keeps coming back) and I can move onto trying other things? The there are certain watches I feel I know are really good, most people that have them tend to keep them, and maybe I should too. There is not exactly a good reason to let go of a piece. However, sometimes I come up with reasons to do so only to make room for another watch.. I guess maybe those are watch experience pieces and not keepers. Idk, can we ride the fine line and have both watch experiences that come and go AND keepers? As for you, forever onwards and upwards.

Not really surprised. I think a lot of us in the hobby eventually get bored of all our watches regardless of price. Thanks for your honesty and good luck on your next purchase.

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You wanted the money. A $700 seiko Alpinist will do more!

Not a watch collector! You can go back through your videos from past and you always said you were a watch collector, not once you said you were watch experience collector or whatever! Shame!

As long as you don't loose money on it I think it is more than ok to try something new. Just like you told there are many nice pieces worth trying.

Damn you for flipping this watch! 😡

🤔 not sure the phrase “grail watch” really fits if you flip in 6 months. Not sure how could like a watch that much and than turn around to sell it. To each their own, I’ve bought and sold my fair share.

Thanks for the video. You put it all out there, pricing and everything, and I respect your approach to collecting experiences. I enjoy your channel more and more.

Wow, I didn't expect this! It was only a few months ago when you told us your experience buying the Overseas 😱

I’m not sure we agree on what grail means...

I knew this was coming! Enjoy your honesty and transparency

I see your logic Bruce. Hard to criticize it. For me though, I do have keepers. Currently my GS SBGH277 is my grail piece. It is an amazing watch and I bought it to commemorate starting my PhD. It is not perfect, but it is fantastic and it will always be special to me and hopefully one day to one of my kids or if I have non, one of my relatives.

Disappointed. That's all I'm adding. Everything else that can be commented has been pointed out by everyone else (both positive and negative).

Hey Bruce is this a watch you can buy at a discount? Is it an investment watch that increases in value??

I'm a huge fan of VC.. I don't know if I'd rather have the chono or the date model, if money were no object, the Rose Gold with that blue! .. but if I got one, I'd never sell it. Sounds more like a flip, and a DavidSW ad.