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Bump. If he boiled the sulfur couldn't he just funnel the gas's into/thru water to rapid cool it out from gas to solid? If done right, it would end up forming chunks on the bottom of the jar.

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​@@christopherrenn8137 kinda, what you would get at first would be a very fine emulsion of sulphur suspended in the water. Then crystals will form from the emulsified particles and collect on every surface, but because sulphur is also hydrophobic a lot will get caught in the surface tension at the top and float. But unfortunately you're also going to end with a fair amount of waste as some of it will still escape in a gaseous form, while some will be converted into sulfurous acid as it reacts with the water and dissolved oxygen, not much but it will happen. The biggest problem I think will be collecting it from the sides of the container. I haven't tried your method so I can't say exactly how it will go, but it will work, it just won't be as efficient or clean as collecting from a condensing tube as op suggested. The other problem is if your transfer plumbing isn't kept hot, it will likely clog and you risk pressuring the system, which you absolutely do not want. It's also a huge pain to clean from inner surfaces that you plan to use for other things. If you're equipment is dedicated to only sulphur refinement, then it's fine and no worries. With a sufficiently long tube to maximize condensation you can expect a decently efficient yield,

Codyslab did that

​@@cob571 whattt

​@@alessandrogini5283 yeah, good video honestly

​@@cob571 he was forced to stop by the feds though

@@jasonrichardson1999 fbi agents gotta be sometimes pulling out their hair as they watch some of cody's videos. everything from the uranium refining to nitro glycerin tutorial videos, lmao.

The KNO3 is probably fine. its just brown. he used the good looking crystals on top. If it were very dirty there would never be such nice crystals so the purity is over likely over 98% which is fine. But He should definetly have it ground and mixed better.

@@DerHenker_ You can get great crystals even with substantial impurities! The issue is also depending on what the impurities are they can massively impact the chemical reaction you are looking for! It needs to be as pure as possible for the best reaction! In this case it needs to decompose at temperature to provide the Oxygen for the reaction! Anything that retards that process is going to substantially reduce the effectiveness of the Gunpowder! I have made a great deal of Black Powder being a Historical Reinacter, the purity of the Potassium Nitrate effects the end product much more than dirty Sulfur or Carbon! It literally is the difference between a fizzle and a boom when it comes to using it in a Blackpowder Gun of any kind. I have found that using Bat Guano is much better than Chicken manure also you can get very pure Potasium nitrate crystals from bat caves as it leches out and forms on the cave walls.

And Brandon's video

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Corning here might be a questionable choice IMO. It's a great next step dont get me wrong, but it kind of presumes you have ratios and techniques down first. It's more of an "advanced step" than a "quick fix" kinda deal as far as I know. I'd love to see him try it once he get's black powder working though, maybe compare the two?

Use alcohol, its a process called Corning, where you grind it wet and then compress it

@@aaroncampf ​ @martinrose3251 thanks guys, I knew it had a name but I read about it years ago and had forgotten. Definitely agree it's important his ratios and techniques are solid, and no doubt his main plan of increasing purification is good as well, that saltpeter didn't exactly look the best.

I tried doing the thing you mentioned once, adding water and turn it into wet paste, but in pestle and mortar. The salpeter recrystallized once it dried, unfortunately, making the dried paste ununiform and I had to re grind it again. But to my experience, moistening the mixture up a bit makes it much easier to grind (and safer!) than when it is completely dry.

@@aaroncampf yes, that improves the quality greatly. In my personal experience, without wetting it, it doesn't really work.

Agreed - scared the shit out of me when he started grinding it all together.

​@@PatGilliland blowing on the burning sulfur dust got me. Made me recall the time my chemistry teach ignited airborne powder as a demo (think it was just powdered sugar)

In stead of stirring, I would suggest using 'paper-mixing'. Sheet of paper as a vessel. Make heap of ingredients in the middle and then mix it by picking up the paper on one side, then the other side etc. You get a rolling mixing that is quite safe and if it does go wrong there is nothing to be launched in your face except for flames....

Did they mix it wet in the past?

@@grandvivant yeah I shouted “no! What are you doing!” at my screen lol. Then the completely nonplussed “that just made it burn better” sent me and I was going “of course it did, you’re just lucky it’s not so pure” lmao

yeah, all this AND he's by himself, talk about asking for something bad to happen. at least take someone with you next time

Clearly isn't solo, someone is filming, dummy. And I guarantee they have prepared beforehand.

Jesus Christ, that was genuinely one of the most reckless, dangerous things I've ever seen done on KZfaq. He didn't even have water.

Yeah he should've recrystalized it a couple of times

"Not optimal" For anyone that isn't versed in subtly, he means it looks just as bad as the chicken crap it was made from.

If he has the time, Doctor. If he has the time.

@@matthewellisor5835 I like hanging out with my PEEPS !

If so, hopefully he'd go out to Red Rocks to test it out.

Maybe he can build some type of rudimentary lathe.

Agreed, there is also the added possibility of damp charcoal.

they used to burn trees faster than can be replaced take the ash and dump it in water to make potash, then they'd put it in manure to make salt peter.

@@35manning yeah, that charcoal looked quite damp when he was mashing it.

​@@KainYusanagi: Dampness isn't so much the issue. The process of "corning" soaks gunpowder with water so that it dries in clumps, or corns (hence the name). These corns of gunpowder rest side by side with airflow in-between, causing the fire to shoot between the corns. As a powder, there is much less airflow, so it burns much slower.

​@@DarkPegasus87This. You can effectively make it into grains/corns by wetting it with alcohol and then pushing it through a mesh sieve

75% charcoal 15% saltperter 10% sulfur That's the proper ratio.

@@DH-xw6jp You have reversed the saltpeter and charcoal, my good man.

He didn't "grind up the entire piece", he says that he would scrape some off the top layers, 11:23

Nah, the type doesn't matter, you just need to make the charcoal pure enough (and type of tree merely matters in terms of how hard that part is). I agree that simply picking it from a random campfire is going to be subpar though. One of the purer setups I have seen on youtube was iirc some guy who truly cooked it into separate parts - because he was after the tar and the wood-gas. So the charcoal itself that remained ended up rather pure too.

@feha92 everything Blackpowder says otherwise. Willow, silver maple, Alder Buckthorn, and Balsawood make good powder. Oak, pine, and other woods not so much.

@@TheStraycat74 then they say wrong. If they said that the type of wood is important to ease the production of pure carbon, they would be correct. Or if they said that some types of wood contains impurities that result in a blackpowder-derovative with even better effect. But blackpowder only ask for carbon from the coal (the recipe only has three ingredients), so the type really doesn't matter once you extracted 100% pure carbon

@@feha92 soo EverythingBlackpowder. ErasGoneBulletMolds, Hoffman Reproductions, Lame Beaver Trading, and a BUNCh of other people that have videos on making blackpowder, show how it's done, and have done testing On Screen are ALL WRONG, but some nameless commenter is 100% and I should just ignore my own personal tests and trust some rando... ok, pal. no problem.

@@feha92it’s not about the impurities in the wood. The willow trees produce charcoal with a larger surface area. Even though it looks exactly the same the difference in surface on each particle is actually quite large. Hence a faster reaction.

Both!

That's also not Charcoal. Charcoal is burned in a low oxygen environment, think briquettes.

@@TheRealWilliamWhite True, but I was trying to give credit, seeing as how those also certainly weren't Sulphur nor Saltpetre either. Though Charcoal is definitely the lowest bar here. He'll get there. I believe!

HTME....... See what i mean.

Too many people know too much. It only took us 3,000 years to go from hunter gatherers to civilization because it took that long for us to discover enough edible crops to reliably feed large groups of people through the winter with renewably stockpilable non-perishables. (Wheat, maize, rice) The 4,000 year sprint from the inception of civilization to pre-industrial modernity was handicapped by the burnings of libraries, poor experimental methodologies and the desire to privately monopolize discoveries leading many inventions to go underutilized and be forgotten with the death of their creators (Damascus steel, electricity in 250 CE with the Baghdad Battery- I'm noticing a trend that most of the lost inventions were Arabian in origin... Shame how their society's collapse set humanity back 1,800~ years...) All it took to enable the industrial revolution was a diversified post collumbian exchange food supply driven population boom followed by a stretch of 200 years of relative peace being followed by the shift away from the overconsumption of alchohol (depressant) as a clean source of drinking water towards coffee and tea (stimulants) as the enlightenment dawned (turns out when you drink caffinated beverages instead of swil-shine you can think for yourselves) and allowed for the creation of the standardized scientific method (replaced trial and error) and encouraged pier reviews which created a culture of sharing discoveries to be verfified- all of which is to say: Humanity would be back to post industrial levels of technology within 60 years tops. Electricity is crazy simple to generate and there is simply too much abundant scrap metal. Creating copper from ore is hard, creating copper from scrap copper is easy. If society needed to rebuild it'd be much easier than building it the first time.

@@bodaciouschad it isn't reliable to say that the Baghdad battery was intended to be a battery though, but you'd be right if you mentioned the many times in history that a steam engine was made only to be used for something random. I dont remember fully but some Turkish man built the "first" steam engine to churn butter or something like that.

​@@themenacingpenguin.7152It was to mix alcohol, what a Chad.

​@@bodaciouschad the baghdad battery wasn't actually a battery. It would not make sense for it to be a battery, as you couldn't measure or use the electricity in any way.

HTME: Exploring the mysteries of sulfur-based gasses

@@dominiczibuda5232 HTME: Making tactical nukes from pure uranium

Rock a fire explosion

One step at a time grasshopper. He needs to get reliable at refining the base chemicals before he starts the fun stuff.

If you need more explaining write a comment I can help you, I know some chem, and DIY bushcraft thingy. Ps don't throw away the gunpowder you can dissolve the saltpetre from it, and the rest won't dissolve. I saw how long it took you to make it, it would be a big waste to throw it away.

Using this technique with pure ingredients I have made pyrotechnic gunpowder for lots of homemade fireworks. Just finished a batch today actually. Getting ready for the 4th of July!

That and the ignition point lowering were rwally why it was used.

2 things to try with the same ingredients finer grinding and more saltpeter per amount of charcoal. You could try and use a basic sand filter on the saltpeter to remove particulates after dissolving it back into water or solution.