Why is fusion drumming so IMPOSSIBLE to play?!

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@ed-roberts
@ed-roberts 5 ай бұрын
The time and energy it takes to make a video like this must be monumental! Just trying to even hear that Cobham groove underneath all that Jan Hammer soloing must've taken ages! Thanks for this - much appreciated.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ed, appreciate it man! Haha, sometimes gotta just find the right part of the track to try and hear what’s going on! Keep killing it man! Alex 👊
@SebCo77
@SebCo77 6 ай бұрын
What do all those drummers have in common? They are jazz musicians. Let that sink in.
@patricktiglao
@patricktiglao 5 ай бұрын
Yes! All of them can swing too!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Swing kings 👑
@jerryjazzbo2845
@jerryjazzbo2845 5 ай бұрын
If they can't swing, they can't play the way they do. Let that sink in.
@colinburroughs9871
@colinburroughs9871 5 ай бұрын
it's not that they're jazz musicians (though that's correct) it's that they listen to jazz.. there's a distinction there that metal guy who notices jazz guy has chops doesn't get right away
@jskypercussion
@jskypercussion 5 ай бұрын
You know, all of them are so personalized and unique as well. It's all about being an individual and being true to yourself. The Secrete is to try not to sound like others and bring in something new never done or heard before. All those great Fusion and Prog drummers were innovators that set the standards and bar so high.
@ThatGuyFrank369
@ThatGuyFrank369 6 ай бұрын
I have been looking to expand my drumming to the next level and this for me basically lays out the steps of what i need to call myself an advanced drummer, I hope to learn a lot from your channel
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Yes mate, so sick! Let me know how you get on! Alex 👊
@felipecardoso6300
@felipecardoso6300 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Your videos are absolutely exceptional. While there are many good ones out there, yours stand out for being accessible to beginners yet packed with insights for learners like me who are striving to reach an intermediate level. I've come to realize that a major hurdle I face is my tendency to rush into playing complete songs from start to finish without first getting familiar with the fundamental building blocks. Now, I'm making a conscious effort to prioritize practices such as studying rhythmic cells individually, experimenting with different permutations of them, practicing at slower tempos, and gradually increasing the speed - sometimes even faster than the original music, if feasible. In fact, there's so much to unpack that delving into a single song becomes a comprehensive study session in itself.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, stoked you’re getting something from the vids! Alex 👊
@joakimfrostblacksmithing7127
@joakimfrostblacksmithing7127 3 ай бұрын
The best drum channel on you tube by far 👍Glad i found it 🙂
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 3 ай бұрын
Ayyyy thanks mate, appreciate the kind words and stoked you are getting something from the videos! Alex 👊
@arnetrautmann9783
@arnetrautmann9783 5 ай бұрын
On a very different not: I applaud your fashion sense in trousers.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Haha thanks my dude! Alex 👊
@Isakaadland
@Isakaadland 6 ай бұрын
Sooo underrated!!!! very concise and all that good video!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@mphase7575
@mphase7575 5 ай бұрын
Bro! Thank you! I had just recently been thinking about learning the got a match groove! Best drum channel!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Yes mate, such a beast groove! Weckl is a beast! Alex 👊
@jackrevy2397
@jackrevy2397 5 ай бұрын
Excellent videos and your downloads are on point. Bravo!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Stoked you are getting something from them Jack, my dude! Alex 👊
@M0NN1
@M0NN1 5 ай бұрын
Loved your approch to practice in the speed section! Definitely agree with you that some things start to sound 'too normal' after a while 😂
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Haha 100% mate! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
@only4crap
@only4crap 6 ай бұрын
excellent, as always!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜 hope you’re well mate! Alex
@AlexMusic_51
@AlexMusic_51 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. One of the best channels. Subb'd.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Legend mate, stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
@gameplayti2909
@gameplayti2909 6 ай бұрын
So interesting. Another great video.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@altaybayr
@altaybayr 6 ай бұрын
Truly quality content, thanks a ton
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@haroldbrooks4235
@haroldbrooks4235 2 ай бұрын
Jazz Fusion… THE GREATEST GENRE OF MUSIC EVER ❤❤❤❤❤
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition Ай бұрын
💪
@LuRoy501
@LuRoy501 5 ай бұрын
this channel is soooo so so good, appreciate you m8! while we’re on the fusion kick, would love to hear you break down some Snarky Puppy grooves sometime!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it mate! Larnell Lewis is on the list for sure, he’s just too good man haha! Alex 👊
@carbonc6065
@carbonc6065 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@cpizz99
@cpizz99 6 ай бұрын
Great video, man! And such a funny coincidence, as I have been working on Got a Match after having put it off for years. On the B section you transcribed and played, I actually hear it a little differently - I think he only plays the "skip notes" with his left foot and just plays quarter notes on the ride. So hard for a guy without a jazz background like me, but so fun to learn!
@cpizz99
@cpizz99 6 ай бұрын
And what I forgot to say is, does anyone else hear it this way, or am I just missing Dave's skip notes on the ride?
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Sick man! Yeah such a beast of a tune! I think the foot pattern varies depending on version and section- the section I wrote out is at 00:38 on the studio version, where you can hear the hi hat chicks on different parts of the beat (imo) but it does change throughout! Hard to hear sometimes on these old recordings though haha, I just commit to what I hear and take it from there! Thanks for watching and for the kind words! Alex 👊
@cpizz99
@cpizz99 5 ай бұрын
Right, totally agree with you there, both on the hi-hat chick patterns changing up and it being super hard to hear! :) What I'm hearing different is that where he plays chicks on the Es and As, he just plays straight 8ths on the ride - he skips the "skip" notes. I could be wrong tho.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
@@cpizz99 ah I see what you mean now, I misunderstood the first comment- my bad! Oh yeah that could be right too, so many options haha! Weckl is too good! 🔥
@cpizz99
@cpizz99 5 ай бұрын
@@DrumHubTuition, yeah, we just need @TimBuell to come along and transcribe the whole song...Tiiiiiiiiiiim, we need you!
@jorgeaburtogonzalez918
@jorgeaburtogonzalez918 5 ай бұрын
Great!!!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🙌
@shawnbruce6934
@shawnbruce6934 5 ай бұрын
Great Video and drumming. Subbed.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Legend! Stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
@marylewis3311
@marylewis3311 6 ай бұрын
So many forget the practise of smooth and slow is the foundation to effortless speed.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
💯 thanks for watching! Alex 👊
@bigfatpaul1759
@bigfatpaul1759 6 ай бұрын
Top stuff lad.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@johnned4848
@johnned4848 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Seems like knowing the basics especially rudiments are crucial to developing the chops neccesary to playing fusion but just being a better drummer.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
100% mate! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
@johnned4848
@johnned4848 5 ай бұрын
@DrumHubTuition great stuff why I subscribed to you
@eliaselbs3163
@eliaselbs3163 3 ай бұрын
Nice drums sound u got there
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🤜
@joyful4108
@joyful4108 5 ай бұрын
can i just say: u are 🔥🔥🔥 thanks for all that u do ! subbed now
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
@DJCIRCA3000
@DJCIRCA3000 5 ай бұрын
Bro I’ve been watching your videos for a minute now. Your videos are unique, to the point, informative, practical and interesting. Your playing is clean and your attitude is great. Thank you for all your help! Cheers. KRLRLKRLKRLLRRLRRKRLL
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words mate! Always sick to hear people are getting something from the videos! Alex 👊
@filipkasprzyk9564
@filipkasprzyk9564 6 ай бұрын
Haha you look so happy talking about this ❤
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Chamitox.
@Chamitox. 5 ай бұрын
Speaking of odd time signatures, the other day I listened to Spanish Moss by Billy Cobham, which was in 17/16, that's brutal.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 4 ай бұрын
🔥🔥 Cobham is a wild man haha! Alex 👊
@mrlnstrousden
@mrlnstrousden 6 ай бұрын
That is class content my dude 🎉
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
🤜
@mrlnstrousden
@mrlnstrousden 5 ай бұрын
@@DrumHubTuition big up yourself 👊😎🤘🏻🥁
@ofdrumsandchords
@ofdrumsandchords 5 ай бұрын
What makes fusion drumming difficult are the compositions. The main reason is that great musicians like Corea, Zappa, McLaughlin, want to push their limits and hire people able to play their music. Metheny said once "I hire drummers who are pianists, they understand the music from the inside". Paul Wertico had to work to play in 22/8 (First circle) or fast (Third wind). In jazz like in rock music, it's usually not the drummers who make history. But I will make an exception for a few drummers who composed. Louie Bellson, who invented the double bass drumming and four sticks playing (Duke said he was the greatest musician alive, a little exaggerated as Stravinsky was still breathing), Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette who is an excellent pianist and composer. Cobham or White also compose. Don't miss the big picture like most drums channels. What matters is the quality of the music.
@LibraryInTheAttic
@LibraryInTheAttic 5 ай бұрын
Jazz Foundations
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
💯
@raphaelgroisard9598
@raphaelgroisard9598 5 ай бұрын
Jazz drummers rule !
@klumppedidu476
@klumppedidu476 6 ай бұрын
youre a god
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Haha, legend mate 🤜
@bryanczy4700
@bryanczy4700 6 ай бұрын
How’d you age your K light Hihats so well?
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
They are just close to 10 years old and never been cleaned haha! Alex 👊
@bryanczy4700
@bryanczy4700 5 ай бұрын
@@DrumHubTuition did it get lower than it was when you first bought it? I'm finding mine a little too bright 🤔
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
100% man! I have found that with every new cymabl I've ever bought- takes a few months to settle in and stop sounding so harsh! Just gotta keep playing them in and they sound better over time imo! Alex@@bryanczy4700
@l.a.covers8400
@l.a.covers8400 5 ай бұрын
Dude. You need to watch takashi sasaki from the Japanese Jazz Fusion Band Casiopea
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Sick, will check it out! Thanks for the recommendation! Alex 👊
@timgrady4630
@timgrady4630 5 ай бұрын
Gary Novak & Virgil Donati = in the conversation .
@Dnell-tb1yd
@Dnell-tb1yd 6 ай бұрын
It may be Gary Husband and not Chad Wackerman on that Holdsworth track
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Listed as Chad Wackerman on discogs, although no idea if that’s always 100% accurate? Thanks for watching my dude! Alex 👊
@BandyBunkele
@BandyBunkele 5 ай бұрын
ok but where did you get those pants? lol
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Haha they are dickies ones! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
@batouttahell454
@batouttahell454 5 ай бұрын
It's as hard to play as it is to get good pay
@FernandoCuadro
@FernandoCuadro 6 ай бұрын
Grow a mullet got it, thanks!!!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
The only way 💁‍♀️
@powerinformation
@powerinformation 6 ай бұрын
Great video Alex - Thanks again for the lesson back in January. I was practicing some of the printouts you gave me today, I also watched this video the other night (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rKhph86H1JvefIk.htmlsi=g_kr8e05xIsFW14h). There is a part I liked in Billy's video where he is hitting the cymbal from below and above in quick succession - I've never seen that before. Peace!
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Hey dude, was a super fun lesson and stoked to spend some of your birthday with you man! Glad you’re getting something from the concepts we covered! Sick, I will check out that video, great the full thing is up! Hope you enjoyed the rest of your trip mate! Alex 👊
@skillet6870
@skillet6870 5 ай бұрын
Jazz Fusion=Billy Cobham.
@jerryjazzbo2845
@jerryjazzbo2845 5 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, because Billy has played A LOT of straight-ahead jazz as well.
@skillet6870
@skillet6870 5 ай бұрын
@@jerryjazzbo2845 Yes necessarily.
@skillet6870
@skillet6870 5 ай бұрын
@@jerryjazzbo2845 Billy Cobham is the fastest drummer ever.
@jerryjazzbo2845
@jerryjazzbo2845 5 ай бұрын
​@@skillet6870 Your opinion. Doesn't make me wrong, nor does it make you right...nor is it that important.
@skillet6870
@skillet6870 5 ай бұрын
@@jerryjazzbo2845 The FASTEST! Buddy rich takes a back seat to Billy Cobham.
@popeyesailor9571
@popeyesailor9571 5 ай бұрын
Learn your rudiments. period
@vipermad358
@vipermad358 5 ай бұрын
Because it is an ersatz genre cobbled together in the late 60s to respond to market forces instead of being a real form of music. Plus, it's boring and only played by "jazz school" types, who have had all SOUL beaten out of them. Next?
@Loskov-my3xw
@Loskov-my3xw 5 ай бұрын
I quite agree. This is why i only listen to music that can be created by banging animal bones on hollowed out logs. Everything after is just so watered down, so ersatz.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
😂
@GhANeC
@GhANeC 5 ай бұрын
Because it’s not really “a genre”…
@albitcapinigro1107
@albitcapinigro1107 5 ай бұрын
Fusion drumming great. Fusion music AWFUL.
@DrumHubTuition
@DrumHubTuition 5 ай бұрын
Haha, I get that for sure- I kind of love it though for how weird and dated it sounds 😂 bring on the cheesy synths! Alex 👊
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