Why Is Nicolas Flamel So Weak? Is The Elixer Of Life A Flawed Creation?

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5 жыл бұрын

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Nicolas Flamel was a well-known alchemist and only known maker of the Philosopher's Stone. I’ve always wondered just how effective the Elixir of Life was, how it worked, and how it sustained the person way beyond their lifespan so if you were like me and found yourself quite shocked at how frail Flamel appeared in the latest Fantastic Beasts trailer then you need to watch todays video on why I think he's so feeble.
Why is Nicolas Flamel so weak? Is the Elixer Of Life a flawed creation?
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@carna-9501
@carna-9501 5 жыл бұрын
There is actually a book series called the alchemists that explains this, essentially the elixir of life keeps you at the age you took the elixir, and every second you wait after the elixir wears off ages you the years you didn't age, until you take the elixir again, which would need to be taken around every century or so.
@quentinphelps6549
@quentinphelps6549 5 жыл бұрын
I have that series but he and his wife have drink it exactly during a full moon of every month
@sircornieleous4826
@sircornieleous4826 4 жыл бұрын
The book series was so good I read all of them in two weeks.
@soobindoll9767
@soobindoll9767 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@dog-md7wh
@dog-md7wh 4 жыл бұрын
but this really doesnt have anything to do with the Harry Potter series so that definitely not the case for Flammel.
@chloeoeorine
@chloeoeorine 4 жыл бұрын
•dog • maybe they took inspo/consulted that for harry potter
@sumtingwong8592
@sumtingwong8592 5 жыл бұрын
When you cheat death it has it's drawbacks. Would have been funny if he looked monstrous like Voldemort. His appearance makes complete sense and I'm happy they made him look that way.
@AlPal4554
@AlPal4554 5 жыл бұрын
Sum Ting Wong yes! And to be fair, JK wrote the script so she would have intended for him to look this way I suppose ~
@CreamyGoodness
@CreamyGoodness 5 жыл бұрын
Sum Ting Wong that's the trope, anyway
@abrons7156
@abrons7156 5 жыл бұрын
It does make a lot of sense. I agree. I am not disappointed at all.
@richiefranklin76
@richiefranklin76 4 жыл бұрын
Flamels method of immortality is better though. At least his method leaves his soul intact,thus he and his wife could cross over once they died. Voldemort on the other hand will be trapped in limbo frail and helpless forever.
@Hellskelett
@Hellskelett 3 жыл бұрын
Immortality comes with a great cost is basically the theme this whole universe is built upon... I would not expect any other behaviour.
@pooey
@pooey 4 жыл бұрын
He mentions that he doesn't keep food in his house, maybe hes so weak because he doesn't eat..
@timmason7430
@timmason7430 4 жыл бұрын
Food would not sustain the body because of Unicorn blood in the elixir.
@victorvvc1925
@victorvvc1925 4 жыл бұрын
I know they tried to make a joke, but for someone with almost 700 years of experience, I think he'd know by now how frail his body is, to offer handshakes to anyone
@yama5182
@yama5182 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly...I didn’t like the way she wrote his character for the movie. 😑
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 5 жыл бұрын
I was not at all shocked to see that Nicholas Flamel looking frail in the trailer. In the first place, the idea of immortality's being a curse without perpetual youth has a been fictional and mythic staple for millennia (I don't exaggerate). It's worth noting, in fact, that Albus Dumbledore implied Nicolas and his wife to be tired of their immortal lives in the very first novel, and frailty would fit in with that. Also, there's another trope whereby an immortality potion has to be taken in periodic doses, in order to "renew" the user. This concept was used with regard to H. Rider Haggard's "She," DC Comics' Ra's al Ghul, the old Fu Manchu stories, and even Disney's "Tangled,'" to name a few. Nicolas Flamel may simply be another case in point, with plenty of precedent in both British and fantasy literature.
@Zarcaz96
@Zarcaz96 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. don't recall the name of the novel, but in it the main character wish for, and is granted immortality. In his case, he retain his youth, but he has to watch all he come to care for eventually die, and if I recall correctly, he ends up the last person on earth, being left utterly alone on the waste of a planet "cursed" to walk it until the end of time..... Moral of the story is the same though, immortality is a curse.
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 5 жыл бұрын
"Highlander" touched on the same theme more than once, especially in the first movie. But that's a little different from what the OP and I were getting at.
@johndaley1815
@johndaley1815 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Hentschel YOU TALK MORE THAN ME!!!!
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, i can write at length. It's called "eloquence": you might try it sometime.
@TheSaneHatter
@TheSaneHatter 5 жыл бұрын
Did you? I hadn't seen it, so don't worry. ;-)
@CocoyMoya1985
@CocoyMoya1985 5 жыл бұрын
I guess it's easier to greet Death as as a friend when one has lived for almost 700 years...
@richiefranklin76
@richiefranklin76 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the fact that Flamel ran from death so long basically mean he was scared of dying? You would think that a guy obsessed with life and immortality like Flamel would choose to return as a ghost.
@chloeoeorine
@chloeoeorine 4 жыл бұрын
richiefranklin76 well he chose to hand over the stone
@_Luminary13
@_Luminary13 3 жыл бұрын
800 years
@juliahope7100
@juliahope7100 3 жыл бұрын
@@_Luminary13 Not really, he was almost 700. The initial commenter was correct.
@HidHeyy
@HidHeyy 3 жыл бұрын
He chose to do it to save the earth from other wizards and if he would greet death were would the stone go?
@robertharris5975
@robertharris5975 5 жыл бұрын
I think it just stops aging, not reverse it. So whatever age you started drinking it is the age you will stay in less you stop drinking and die. People had tried to make the stone for a long time so it was probably hard to do, maybe it took flamel most of his normal lifespan to make it so he is suck being really old
@judywright4241
@judywright4241 5 жыл бұрын
Headless Nick looked better and healthier than Nicholas Flamel. 🙀
@pollygotacracker9396
@pollygotacracker9396 5 жыл бұрын
Judy Wright *nearly headless
@roadrunner5549
@roadrunner5549 5 жыл бұрын
Nearly headless? How can you be nearly headless?
@Earendilgrey
@Earendilgrey 5 жыл бұрын
Well Nick died when he was still way younger than Flamel.
@tiffprendergast
@tiffprendergast 4 жыл бұрын
Judy Wright yup
@nathanriley7370
@nathanriley7370 4 жыл бұрын
Its *nearly* headless nick
@spencerthefrankenstein8291
@spencerthefrankenstein8291 5 жыл бұрын
The metal to gold part will make gold worthless sooner or later.
@spencerthefrankenstein8291
@spencerthefrankenstein8291 5 жыл бұрын
Now I think of it I would Phoenix Tears and Unicorn Blood. If the fountain of youth is real in the harry potter universe I would use the water from it in the mixture.
@kaytlinjustis5643
@kaytlinjustis5643 5 жыл бұрын
@@spencerthefrankenstein8291 Well, I'd avoid the Unicorn blood; it curses anyone who drinks it! 'Half-life, cursed life,' remember? Phoenix tears DOES seem to accelerate cell growth and healing, though!
@abhilashpr9873
@abhilashpr9873 4 жыл бұрын
Mercury
@richiefranklin76
@richiefranklin76 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if there were multiple philosophers stones,and you had a lot of people creating gold out of nothing constantly that would be true.But I get the impression that Flamel has the only stone,and he just uses it to give him enough gold to live on comfortably. So no it's not even close to being devalued into worthlessness. I mean you would think the US dollar would have collapsed into nothingness by now,considering how many are printed and created. Yet it surprisingly goes on....
@ohitsreo1275
@ohitsreo1275 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when you threw shade at the comment warriors lol
@codygreen8829
@codygreen8829 5 жыл бұрын
Who we fighting?
@nobleskywalker4639
@nobleskywalker4639 5 жыл бұрын
Why did nicholas flamel look so frail? Cause no amount of magic can make you feel in your prime past 600 years of age. Magic has limits that has been established in HP world
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
and expanding life has some serious side effects
@kshitijsharma759
@kshitijsharma759 4 жыл бұрын
Really? I didn't knew that
@haydenscholze7452
@haydenscholze7452 3 жыл бұрын
That billshit it just know body has yet discovered a way to make them properly immortal without side affects
@haydenscholze7452
@haydenscholze7452 3 жыл бұрын
An example would be we as humans could stop or reverse the aging process in the near future due to advancements in technology
@raider-ct4sc
@raider-ct4sc 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone that even considers the age of 40 as "pushing it" has got to be living one of the saddest and most pathetic existences they could possibly live LMAO
@dog-md7wh
@dog-md7wh 4 жыл бұрын
He is talking about physically and he is correct. its just fact by that age youre more likely to get muscle tears etc, thats what he was referring to.
@williampaulsinghharika2627
@williampaulsinghharika2627 3 жыл бұрын
Well wenn Nicolas Flamel was a young man seven centurys ago, a ago of 40 was the age you where nearly ancient and often already a grandparent.
@yamahakid450f
@yamahakid450f 3 жыл бұрын
Back then people were writing their wills the second they got the first Hershey squirt.... and no I'm not joking, people literally died from diarrhea. Can you imagine shutting yourself to death?
@irisangelina
@irisangelina 2 жыл бұрын
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 Yeah but you’re applying muggle logic to wizards. It’s canon that magical people live much longer to begin with, I’d guess that would mean they would at least live till their 80s even if they were dying young, considering Dumbledoor died when he was like 150 not of natural causes.
@connorleonard4047
@connorleonard4047 2 жыл бұрын
@@williampaulsinghharika2627 no not true at all my dude
@luke4386
@luke4386 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you used Hedwig’s Theme because you were talking about the Philosopher’s Stone. Great video, you fuel my Harry Potter addiction.
@shado2us
@shado2us 5 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of work that you did! Thank you! That was awesome, Dean!
@spencerthefrankenstein8291
@spencerthefrankenstein8291 5 жыл бұрын
I guess that an ingredient of the Philosipher Stone is Unicorn Blood but why not Phoenix Tears as well?
@richardkalish8671
@richardkalish8671 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of him being so extremely frail. Cause it tracks pretty well with the Harry Potter universe of things not going to plan when you try to cheat death. Yes he was alive, but had no quality of life. The elixir just kept him going.
@lindsey7951
@lindsey7951 5 жыл бұрын
He's so frail because he's over 600 years old video over 😂
@kelanbaron7485
@kelanbaron7485 5 жыл бұрын
and because of a joke.
@larrytinsley4247
@larrytinsley4247 5 жыл бұрын
But bv the elixir is supposed to stop aging
@gabbie3819
@gabbie3819 5 жыл бұрын
ikr
@kayathompson932
@kayathompson932 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the elixir would stop natural aging like frailness, but apparently not.
@Skorion69
@Skorion69 5 жыл бұрын
@@larrytinsley4247 Stop ageing? where does it say that? most people make the assumption that by magical means something that keeps you alive will keep you young, not so if you are after that you'd have to drink water from the fountain of youth, I'd say that the elixir of life prevents a body from deteriorating beyond a certain point but not much else. So in time the body would weaken from lack of use, teeth would wear down as they do over time etc.
@jaspr1999
@jaspr1999 5 жыл бұрын
40, huh? :-D I agree that forcing the body to live beyond its limits is a terrifying way to live, but maintaining the mind... That one is up for debate as an unhealthy body, but a happy person with a healthy mind will always fair better than those that have a healthy body but an unhappy mind. The biggest difference between the longevity of Flamel versus Voldemort.
@codyburgett7962
@codyburgett7962 5 жыл бұрын
jaspr1999 that’s a very very fair point
@namphuong1894
@namphuong1894 5 жыл бұрын
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@jaspr1999
@jaspr1999 5 жыл бұрын
lee Roberts, - Um, if I'm understanding you correctly... We agree that a healthy mind is key regardelss of the body as a whole.
@jaspr1999
@jaspr1999 5 жыл бұрын
lee Roberts, - Just trying to understand your comment.
@triratna1397
@triratna1397 5 жыл бұрын
All he need is fountain of youth. To keep the physical body young and adonis like.
@Nemenon
@Nemenon 5 жыл бұрын
I think its pretty stupid that he would try to shake someones hand when he knows how weak his bones are. I could be wrong but it seems very contrived.
@tessmarie2933
@tessmarie2933 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate his politeness tho 😂
@nishcheta885
@nishcheta885 4 жыл бұрын
Well arent we opinionated
@HidHeyy
@HidHeyy 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he hasnt shaked someones hand for centurys
@ellyc4253
@ellyc4253 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this video and I think it was a great connection from the unicorn blood being so pure that if you drink it you will always live a half life from the first book to the philosophers stones creation with the elixir of life
@kelanbaron7485
@kelanbaron7485 5 жыл бұрын
honestly, i think they made him weak and frail just for a joke about how old he is.
@zeveria7206
@zeveria7206 5 жыл бұрын
I figured Flamel made the stone when he was older--given what an incredible creation it is--and around ...60? 80? He started drinking the elixir. He might not have even realized, at first, that the elixir needed to continuously need to be drunk so maybe it took 10 more years before he realized he was aging and started drinking it. But what about the times he forgot to drink it? Say he's on holiday and forgot the elixir, so he ages a week until he gets home. If we look at the elixir as a pause button, every slip up Flamel makes regarding the elixir brings him a step closer to death. By the end of his life, he could have "3 hours on the clock" so to speak and he's just desperately drinking elixir to keep himself from reaching the end. The elixir might not be to blame at all. Wizards grow old and even more feebler than muggles since they can last longer. The elixir may simply be keeping him in this state because he didn't start drinking it until he was already old and even then he would have had days where he had forgotten or didn't have his elixir on him at the time.
@bernadettejohnstone4529
@bernadettejohnstone4529 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are outstanding Dean! The amount of time that goes into them is incredible and is not unnoticed. Your work is very much appreciated as a fan of your channel xoxo
@eloffski
@eloffski 5 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this channel a few weeks ago and can’t stop watching it now. 😃
@ryderwhited6
@ryderwhited6 5 жыл бұрын
While Nicolas may have been frail, which is understandable being almost 700 years old, but he was still an incredibly powerful wizard, protecting himself and Jacob holding out against Grindlewalds firey monsters,
@shinyarceus3717
@shinyarceus3717 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! you cleared a lot of things up for me.
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 5 жыл бұрын
I have a few ideas as to flamel's appearance 1 and most likely a philosophers stones elixir of life takes years to make so every sixty years or so he drinks the elixir and de-ages back to a twenty year old 2 your "half life" is because flamel was unwilling to make a stone with human souls so the stone is not perfect only slowing the aging process instead of halting it 3 the flamel we see in the trailer is a red herring the stone gives flamel complete control over his body so uses the old man fesade' to keep people off his tail... Or just to make a joke he is a friend of dumbledore after all
@jordanrobinson9064
@jordanrobinson9064 2 жыл бұрын
The Elixir of Life seemed to grant only longevity instead of immortality! If Nicholas Flamel was genuinely immortal, then he would only have to drink it once, and not every century or so. At the end of the first HP film, Dumbledore tells Harry that Flamel has more than enough elixir to keep himself satisfied, but warn him that in time, he'll eventually die!
@MasonNoThumbs
@MasonNoThumbs 5 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess to make the stone maybe it’s Unicorn Blood and Phoenix ashes possibly Yew and Holly Root because they relate to resurrection which in turn could play off the Phoenix Ash and Unicorn blood and other “life” ingredients and if boiled until together until it becomes a moldable tar like substance and then you mold it into a shape and let it cool until it hardens like stone
@Dreamx13
@Dreamx13 5 жыл бұрын
Timmy No Thumbs I'vr got a weird theory. The recipe for the philosopher's stone is a red black and white gem. What if it's Phoenix feather, unicorn blood, and a part of a thestral? Purity of life, Death, and Rebirth. All in all spelling regeneration
@ahanabhattacharyya2030
@ahanabhattacharyya2030 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't yew poisonous??
@chgreengrass4934
@chgreengrass4934 5 жыл бұрын
“I’m an alchemist therefore Immortal” 😑 Who tf wrote the script
@TheCrusaders13
@TheCrusaders13 4 жыл бұрын
Jk
@seanking6184
@seanking6184 3 жыл бұрын
He probably said it like that because he was talking to a non-magic person
@daniahkitten
@daniahkitten 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! I've been wanting to know more about Nicolas since the new fantastic beasts trailer came out ☺ I can't wait to see it!
@tubefan10
@tubefan10 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant deduction & researching Harry Potter Folklore, especially on a tricky topic such as this one! Your videos, knowledge & contributions are without peer.
@gerardomacias7370
@gerardomacias7370 5 жыл бұрын
If I can throw my hat into this conversation. It possible that the elixer of life has not been perfected yet. By that I mean he looks like that because he hasn't perfected it yet and is still looking for different ingredient so he can make a true elixir of life. It said that the stone produces the elixer of life, but it possible that it only gives you one that semi-elixer, your life extends but it still ages you. He wouldn't have noticed till sometime later when he saw himself age but he would also have not cared since his mind still function and can start testing and perfecting it. But its not like it would be an easy task. Creating a stone is hard enough but creating a perfected elixer, might take half a century.
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
half a century would be fuckin fast meybe few hundred years to get right mix
@gerardomacias7370
@gerardomacias7370 5 жыл бұрын
Ville Kuronen oh I ment millennium, my bad.
@kaytlinjustis5643
@kaytlinjustis5643 5 жыл бұрын
Well, Flammel must've been working on it for over six centuries to get where it is now! ^^;
@Draconea77717
@Draconea77717 4 жыл бұрын
The books never stated the elixer of life prevents aging, only that it makes the drinker immortal
@mrtyrant1680
@mrtyrant1680 3 жыл бұрын
The it's like Master Roshi from Dragon Ball Z
@TheVarunpreet
@TheVarunpreet 5 жыл бұрын
your the only person I watch and click on adds as that's the only way I can support you. the only person making relevant HP videos and theories on youtube. keep up the good work 👍
@bethcaselman7952
@bethcaselman7952 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic you had made some really good points
@codygreen8829
@codygreen8829 5 жыл бұрын
Love you content bro! One of the best storytellers on KZfaq hands down. With that said. The life of sybill trelawney. Thanks!
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate 5 жыл бұрын
If the wizards just have a better understanding of biology and biochemistry, they wouldnt need the Philosopher Stone. Dude, youre forgeting that there are actual animals that can live a really long time, some even forever due to superior regenerative abilities. Its about telomerase repairs and regeneration, about genes that are responsible for regenerating limbs and stuff. But I guess since the wizards think science is too beneath them, eternal youth will never happen. Anyway, as you said about Flamels brain, I think its because unlike all other cell, brain cells do NOT replicate and regenerate. Telomeres get damaged everytime a cell replicates. That damage is why we age. The cells replicate, the telomeres get damaged to the point that it stops cell division. No cell division means no healing. Then we die. And our poor brain dies inside an irepairable body. Sad. And so Flamel is a zombie... A Full Zombie Alchemist.
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
A Full Zombie Alchemist. that sounds like sequel to Full Metal Alchemist :D... and isn't there somekind of medusa out there which is biologically immortal
@Spoomis
@Spoomis 5 жыл бұрын
What about that wizard that was reading Stephen Hawking?
@pivinne5536
@pivinne5536 5 жыл бұрын
Block Head his understanding of physics let him do powerful wandless and wordless magic, so if wizards understood muggle sciences, they’d be much much better
@rozsnyai88
@rozsnyai88 5 жыл бұрын
Aha, i know that. I think ppl already figured out how to fix that mistake in human dna and cell reproctive system.
@spiffydagoat3920
@spiffydagoat3920 5 жыл бұрын
Trustworthy McLegitimate he is old and they didnt do much science in his time
@pamillo9285
@pamillo9285 5 жыл бұрын
There’s actually a book series based on Nicholas Flammel and while I do not think they are connected it could have a solution to the elixir. The book says that Nicholas actually ages with the lunar cycle, and every time he drinks the potion, he goes back to looking the age he did when he first took it. So there is a chance he has just not used it in some amount of time.
@jakesalazar7468
@jakesalazar7468 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Great job! ❤️👏🏼
@TnT_F0X
@TnT_F0X 4 жыл бұрын
Gold being the most precious metal in existence! Platinum, Palladium, Rhodium, Iridium, Osmium and Indium would like a word. Multiple radioactive metals also have a few words. Also. Incredibly difficult to mine... Screen, Pan + River or... deep quarts mining. Not difficult just more expensive
@mooford4484
@mooford4484 5 жыл бұрын
you are AWESOME!!!!
@sarahann6090
@sarahann6090 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very well-thought-out Theory. I when I saw the trailer I myself wondered why they portrayed him to be ghost like LOL. Keep up the awesome content! Love you Channel!
@akankhyapanda9237
@akankhyapanda9237 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Lilly's theme is being Played in the background. Its just so pure man
@zachaadnesen6976
@zachaadnesen6976 5 жыл бұрын
After 600 years I’d imagine he just got tired of taking care of himself
@jedidiah72
@jedidiah72 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Voldemort go after Flamel? They were alive at the same time. Or maybe that is why the stone was destroyed ....... Voldemort was going to go after it. hmmmm!?!
@juanluis21monsanto98
@juanluis21monsanto98 5 жыл бұрын
jedidiah72 Makes a lot of sense. With Flamel and his wife willing to die to go on their "next adventure" they would take the secrets of making it to the grave, with Dumbledore the remaining one, and with Voldemort being intimidated by him, and that he would rather die than say anything about the stone, the secrets to the Philosopher Stone was lost, Dumbledore dying cementing it beyond salvaging.
@sweep_swoop
@sweep_swoop 4 жыл бұрын
Voldemort only resorted to the Philsopher’s Stone after he was killed from the rebound curse by Baby Harry. Voldemort already had enough Horcruxes that he himself believed that he was immortal, why would he need the Stone?
@brandonezdoofenshmirtz2916
@brandonezdoofenshmirtz2916 4 жыл бұрын
Have you not watched the sorcerers stone?
@richiefranklin76
@richiefranklin76 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweep_swoop Well for starters Flamels stone let him live WAY longer then Voldy did with his horcruxes. You neither have to massively damage your appearance,or tear your soul when you use the sorcerors stone. Just saying that the sorcerors stone seems like a vastly superior form of immortality then the horcruxes. Or at the very least Voldemort could have wisely used them both. First order of business would be to steal the stone from Flamel,or find out how to create your own. Then Tom could have preserved his youth all those years as he got stronger towards the first wizarding war. If he wanted to create his seven horcruxes as a back up strategy,that would have been fine. If creating them turned his body serpentine,he could have easily restored his body to it's human like appearance with the stone. Also if his main body was ever destroyed [as it was at Godrics hollow] he would just need to create a new body with the stone,and then put a soul fragment from a horcrux inside as his new main body. If Voldemort hadn't been too proud to use the stone,he could have returned to power after his curse rebounded on him almost instantly.But because of his arrogance he spent 13 yrs as a ghost basically.
@samueleveleigh2767
@samueleveleigh2767 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because voldemort was well aware of the long term effects of the elixer/stone. I think voldemort was not only afraid of death but being weak (which would invite death) and so by being a feeble old man whos bones break from a handshake would make it increasingly easy to kill him as the years go by. In comparison a horcrux would preserve the body and soul as it was when made meaning even at 70 yrs old mr riddle was still in his prime (even if you do take into account that wizzards tend to have a much longer life span). Using a horcux was also much safer, we see how hard it is for harry and the griffindor gang to destory them all whereas to beat the elixer you just need to wait or intentionally sabotage the formula and oops the dark lord dies of old age because snape jr jr put in a cat hair not one from a unicorn.
@mischiefmanaged5757
@mischiefmanaged5757 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm definitely keen to learn more about Flamel in the upcoming FB film. I too would have thought he'd look younger and be more agile. As far as we know, he was still taking the Elixir during the time period of FB. I know it doesn't promise eternal youth but I didn't expect him to look like that!
@skere272
@skere272 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I think your right on the unicorn blood being used as he didn’t look like he had a good life but was alive.
@ebonwings1313
@ebonwings1313 5 жыл бұрын
I think its because the elixir was wearing off as we know he does die eventually because he destroyed the stone, so obviously the elixir is not permit
@ebonwings1313
@ebonwings1313 5 жыл бұрын
Mathew Fullerton I know the point I was trying to say is the elixir wares off over time thus why hes weak
@thegrilledcheesecake
@thegrilledcheesecake 5 жыл бұрын
But he still uses it till he gives it away It can wear away but he used it till he left it Not researched just a theory
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
didnt dumbledore say to harry after stone was destroyed that flamel has enough elixir to put his affairs in order.... so there's no way it gives you immortality only keeps you alive
@gracekim25
@gracekim25 4 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty clear that being immortal still means you’ll be frail given how AGING works😅 I doubt it stops the effect of age like being fragile.
@archmagefrey
@archmagefrey 5 жыл бұрын
Very awesome content! I liked your video on if Harry died in the graveyard, but I have always been kind of curious about what would have happened if Harry had either not gotten the help from Crouch to win the tournament, or if he just completely failed anyway and never made it to the cup.
@moondough_
@moondough_ 5 жыл бұрын
That theory was amazing, your channel is getting better and better!
@cousinlsytherin
@cousinlsytherin 5 жыл бұрын
I thank you are very smart man. You right don't stop ageing just slow down. To make philosopher stone you have give something up to make one. Have you ever seen the anime Fullmetal Alchemist?
@kelseyk.631
@kelseyk.631 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that philosopher's stone stone was twisted, but also made sense. Thank goodness JK probably won't go there with THIS philosopher's stone.
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 5 жыл бұрын
Kelsey K. I actually liked FMABs philosopher stone due to being such a HUGE shock to the cast while it always was hidden in plain sight for the audience. That's why i loved it. Yes it is a flawed stone but it was never stated not to be. In fact literally every alchemist who didn't see it as rubbish saw it as absolutely dangerous
@kelseyk.631
@kelseyk.631 5 жыл бұрын
I more just meant I don't think JK will have it be made from human souls.
@FaltaziusLalotte
@FaltaziusLalotte 5 жыл бұрын
Actually « Beauxbâtons » is correctly pronounced in the movie, with strong English accent, but it’s completely comprehensible though ;-). Thank you again for all your videos!!! N°1 favourite Harry Potter channel
@HarryPotterFolklore
@HarryPotterFolklore 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a French pronunciation so how is an English pronunciation correct?
@benjaminacuna8013
@benjaminacuna8013 5 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter Folklore it’s by they are just being pedantic
@FaltaziusLalotte
@FaltaziusLalotte 5 жыл бұрын
Never mind. Good continuation in your work !
@bandit_porcelaine
@bandit_porcelaine 5 жыл бұрын
Harry Potter Folklore the ''ba'' is correctly pronounced in the movie but the ''ton'' is mispronouced in both versions but it's because of the accent.
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis 4 жыл бұрын
@@leeroyjenkins0 it's much better here than the movie.
@kirtsden
@kirtsden 5 жыл бұрын
It is also possible that the Elixir of life was an unexpected by product. The process of making gold has always been the Alchemists first ambition in stories, so complicating the already complex recipe by adding a second function would have only increased the difficulty. It makes more sense to me that the elixir is just a castoff from using the stone when making gold. This could also explain why it looks like an imperfect solution, after finding out what it does Flamel would have been so engrossed in the discovery that he would have jumped on it without a second thought.
@hilariusbros2
@hilariusbros2 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this theory and think it would be awesome to see more of your theories!! Thank you for this dope video!
@spacegiraffe686
@spacegiraffe686 5 жыл бұрын
Huh I always thought flamel would be as physically able as he was when he drank the elixir of life.
@annawearing2246
@annawearing2246 5 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Flamel is a real person and the philosopher's stone was a widely speculated subject too. Rowling did not create Flamel nor did she create the idea of a magic school - Jill Muphy designed that first. All her beasts derive from mythology apart from dementors.
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 5 жыл бұрын
She may not have mentioned having an inspiration for the dementors, but they are similar to the valkyrie from norse mythology. The valkyrie were originally written as dark creatures that prey on the souls of the dead. The association of ravens with the concept of death may have been derived from them as well. Other instances of norse mythology in the harry potter series include greyback and harry's fight with the basilisk.
@sya286
@sya286 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s common knowledge JK has taken almost everything from other mythology and fiction...I mean a lot of writers do, and it is a children’s book
@kaytlinjustis5643
@kaytlinjustis5643 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMarkmcr Huh, I thought in Norse Mythology, Valkeries were 'angels' that brought fallen souls to Valahalla after they perished in battle? I could be wrong; been awhile since I last looked it up! ;)
@TheMarkmcr
@TheMarkmcr 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaytlinjustis5643 no, you're right. The version you're talking about came later though
@AmazingStoryDewd
@AmazingStoryDewd 5 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Flamels tomb has long been rumored to be empty. So you can visit it yes but nobody's burried there.
@jonplaud
@jonplaud 4 жыл бұрын
The [art in the Crimes of Grindelwald that bothered me was when Flamel told the wizards to put their wands into the ground to create the magical forcefield, and then he did it with such force. I was thinking that his arms were going to shatter right there.
@nate742
@nate742 5 жыл бұрын
It makes more sense when you take into account how willing Flamel ended up being when agreed to have the philosopher's stone destroyed. To quote a line from another long lived fantasy character, "I feel stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread".
@emmawang4615
@emmawang4615 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! 😃
@emmawang4615
@emmawang4615 5 жыл бұрын
What Hogwarts House are you in? Me: Ravenclaw. 💙
@chels9399
@chels9399 5 жыл бұрын
Emma Wang same I’m a ravenclaw
@chloex9780
@chloex9780 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for Crimes of Grindelwald! First
@nikki5980
@nikki5980 5 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video...❤️✌️💋 Thank You!
@toonzbrah4316
@toonzbrah4316 5 жыл бұрын
Also congrats this being one night of work well done !
@JesusSucksUrDick
@JesusSucksUrDick 5 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer Full Metal Alchemist version of Philosopher stone ... by trapping human souls as fuel/magic properties
@inoxydable3876
@inoxydable3876 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, you are supposed to pronounce Beauxbâtons "Bo-ba-ton", not Bo-ba-tonnes... Beauxbâtons = beaux bâtons = beautiful sticks (yeah what the hell)
@richardchisenhall387
@richardchisenhall387 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sticks=fancy wands, fancy bc they're French
@asuka7309
@asuka7309 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardchisenhall387 Still not a name any self-respecting French person would come up with. also the French word for wand is baguette (not joking)
@richardchisenhall387
@richardchisenhall387 4 жыл бұрын
@@asuka7309 i agree, but it's a French school named by an English author in this case
@kuroneko5390
@kuroneko5390 4 жыл бұрын
I am so proud of me that i knew how to pronounce that right! I have a very limited vocabulary in french. All I know I picked up while watching movies and from friend's that had french in school. I try to learn more know but I am not that good because somehow french confuses my dyslexic mind way more than english and german does but I won't give up I really love french movies so I would love to understand them with out subtitles
@carmensavu5122
@carmensavu5122 4 жыл бұрын
@@asuka7309 Beauxbaguettes.
@MasbyzeAllTopicsFiction
@MasbyzeAllTopicsFiction 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man!!! Can wait for you to break down the last FB2 trailer!!!
@sebastianvasquez5357
@sebastianvasquez5357 5 жыл бұрын
nice job on the video!
@hopemoore6629
@hopemoore6629 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why he was so weak since the trailer came out.
@benjaminacuna8013
@benjaminacuna8013 5 жыл бұрын
Hope Moore I think he procured the Stone after he was greatly aged before he started taking the elixir plus the elixir doesn’t grant youth which is much more important
@kaytlinjustis5643
@kaytlinjustis5643 5 жыл бұрын
Stone granted eternal LIFE. It didn't grant eternal youth. You could live for long periods of time, but you could still age. I was actually impressed with the trailer! I just wish I'd seen the movie!
@lizardguy4236
@lizardguy4236 5 жыл бұрын
Half life the last time I heard that was when radioactive man from the Simpsons died
@veronicareilly7112
@veronicareilly7112 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!! Greatly researched and presented. Bravo!!!
@jamietucker6700
@jamietucker6700 5 жыл бұрын
the theory sounds bang on! especially the unicorn's blood being part of the stone's ingredients. the trailer break down of living on the elixer.
@z3eeroo
@z3eeroo 4 жыл бұрын
Would something like avada kedavra work on flamel like could he be killed
@elliscollantine3880
@elliscollantine3880 5 жыл бұрын
If voldemort won the battle of hogwarts would he have kept the elder wand or would he have switched back to his original wand?
@steph4798
@steph4798 5 жыл бұрын
Ellis Collantine probably kept the wand. Voldemort would have had to be careful to stay in power and not lose his position to another ambitious power hungry dark wizard
@elliscollantine3880
@elliscollantine3880 5 жыл бұрын
Steph Ok thank you
@cristinepaglinawan7657
@cristinepaglinawan7657 5 жыл бұрын
It's because the codex where he and Perenell got their formula for the elixir of life was stolen by John Dee. It's based on his book.
@delindastout2317
@delindastout2317 5 жыл бұрын
This is true! Read the Alchemist. They both aged while the book was stolen. According to the Codex the formula changes every month and appears on page 7 in the Codex!!!!
@TheRedComyn
@TheRedComyn 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correct pronunciation of Beauxbatons! You say it as I always heard it in my mind when reading the books (I've studied French), but then when I heard it in the movies, I was dumbfounded as to why they pronounced it incorrectly.
@benforddarrian42
@benforddarrian42 5 жыл бұрын
I feel to have better understanding of the stone you should go watch the anime Full Metal Alchemist they talk about the stone a lot in that even though is a whole different universe it can still help you understand the stone
@Metalhammer1993
@Metalhammer1993 5 жыл бұрын
Darrian Benford i do not think the stones are comparable. Look at Hohenheim and Father. Okay Hohenheim took damage as his soul eroded but he was around for millenia. Different to flamel. Who "just" had a few centuries. Hohenheim also retained his youth as he literally had the lives of thousands in his body. Flamel clearly aged and as far as we know the elixir of live does not drain the stone and is created using it. It is not the stone itself like in fma. And i kinda doubt flamel butchered 100s of people for science
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
and other difference is Hohemheim literally had philosipher stone inside him Flamel drink elixir made by that stone
@benforddarrian42
@benforddarrian42 5 жыл бұрын
You guys make valid points
@goldenhades2898
@goldenhades2898 5 жыл бұрын
Thor vs Dumbledore
@varunkaushik2732
@varunkaushik2732 5 жыл бұрын
You wanna beat a lioness, capture its cubs you wanna beat Thor, snatch his hammer
@chelseafan2931
@chelseafan2931 5 жыл бұрын
Varun Kaushik looks like you haven't seen Thor ragnarok. There it is said that he doesn't need his hammer to be powerful.
@goldenhades2898
@goldenhades2898 5 жыл бұрын
I asked this because if Dumbledore was in the marvel universe he would be more powerful.
@harleyqueen3824
@harleyqueen3824 5 жыл бұрын
And yet thor still needs an axe to stand against thanos.
@goldenhades2898
@goldenhades2898 5 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore is an ordinary wizard without the elder wand
@ubaten
@ubaten 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think it's theme in the books that death is inevitable without giving up something, Become a ghost you are no longer alive more a copy, create a horcrux you keep your powers but not your soul, elixr of life keeps your soul not your body. In conclusion all life prolonging methods are flawed and in the end death isn't tha bad and for most inevitable the real question is can ghost die? Because sometimes it's seems like they regret becoming a ghost but is there anyway to go on after becoming a ghost?
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 4 жыл бұрын
There's a symbol in the backdrop(3:51), centre-height but to right of screen which I recognise from the video game "9 - The Dark Side" which I have on my computer and play occasionally.
@sonicgen20
@sonicgen20 5 жыл бұрын
I like Bobatons movie pronounciation better. Just call a tomato tomato situation.
@The_Daily_Tomato
@The_Daily_Tomato 5 жыл бұрын
Beauxbatons but yeah i completely agree with you :)
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree
@Emilylhammer
@Emilylhammer 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when you don’t know what to comment 😂
@ogluglugluglug1305
@ogluglugluglug1305 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I had to use the “first” type of comment, to make a comment. Damn, I had a brainshit, and I became completely unoriginal and did an unforgivable crime
@clubpenguin2648
@clubpenguin2648 5 жыл бұрын
then don't post shit
@unexpectedsounds2320
@unexpectedsounds2320 5 жыл бұрын
Boboddy
@acrothdragon
@acrothdragon 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the film Cronos from 1993 where the antique dealer finds 400-year-old scarab that, when it latches onto him, grants him youth and eternal life but it slowly takes its toll over him where he was nearly a walking corpse at the end of the movie.
@kurtisbeeforth8718
@kurtisbeeforth8718 5 жыл бұрын
Got here before the notification lol
@zstero4612
@zstero4612 5 жыл бұрын
same here lol
@immatesticle3632
@immatesticle3632 5 жыл бұрын
Life of Cedric dig....oh right nvm
@stephenforman8816
@stephenforman8816 4 жыл бұрын
I really dig your HP Lore explanations and vids! Would you possibly start a series on The American Wizarding world!? More specific, where American Witches and Wizards get their wands and other materials
@joaorodrigo6304
@joaorodrigo6304 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw him in Fantastic Beasts I was HYPEDDDD
@ninjagal19
@ninjagal19 5 жыл бұрын
maybe he is weak since it is the sign to take another dose of the elixir maybe?
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 5 жыл бұрын
or meybe that elixir only keeps him alive not strong
@willtaylor111
@willtaylor111 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the more you extend your life, the weaker it becomes
@shimanopetermann9068
@shimanopetermann9068 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason that Flamel looked so frail would be that he didn't create the stone in his young years but instead in his old age. Think about it - he's the only Wizard known to have created it. Nobody else that we know of has succeeded in it - that's why Flamel is so famous. It's far more likely that he only succeeded in this after decades (maybe even a century) of trying and perfecting alchemy rather than in his twenties when he was still inexperienced. So he studied decades, managed to create the stone when he was about a hundred years or older (wizards live longer than Muggles so him reachingan age of 150 without the elixir should be possible) and then proceeded to take the elixir of life which stopped his aging and froze him in the body of a 100-something year old man as long as he continued to drink it regularly. It didn't give him half a live, its just trapped him inside the the old body he had when he first succeeded in creating the stone.
@juderaj8446
@juderaj8446 5 жыл бұрын
great vid!!!
@Tran809
@Tran809 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was mispronounced in the movies 😮Because the way they pronounced it in the movies is how we would in french.
@colbauer1426
@colbauer1426 5 жыл бұрын
ChocoMilk Vraiment? Mais non! "Beauxbatons" = "beaux" + "batons" (basically just "pretty sticks" when translated into English), so I would pronounce it like the French words, not "boh battens" as in the film. Et j'ai appris à parler français dès l'âge de six ans. (...but I'm not very good at writing in French, so that might not be quite perfect)
@Tran809
@Tran809 5 жыл бұрын
Kenny Boberts Ah my bad xD. En fait la manière dont il l'a prononcer les deux fois étaient plus ou moins bon. "Beauxbatons" should be pronounced like "Bo" not "Bow" and "Baton" like "ba" and "ton" or "thon"--> basically the sound is like the word tuna in french mais avec le préfixe ba. J'ai vraiment cru que dans le film ils le prononçaient correctement xD. Et t'inquiète pas je suis pas mieux avec mon écriture en français =.= le nombre d'examen que j'ai foiré cette année en écriture. C'est un miracle que j'ai passée l'épreuve du ministère. 😅😂 En tout cas ce qui m'a vraiment perturbé c'est le "ton" qu'il prononçait, mais c'était à cause de l'accent alors j'avais mal entendu la première fois et oui effectivement ce qui dit c le plus proche de la vraie prononciation.
@FaltaziusLalotte
@FaltaziusLalotte 5 жыл бұрын
J'adore ton explication X'D ! Tu es un génie !
@wickedamoeba8719
@wickedamoeba8719 5 жыл бұрын
Eternal life and eternal youth are two very different things.
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 4 жыл бұрын
Yes eternal youth you can still be killed. Goku kills king piccolo who had eternal youth.
@Apryll.
@Apryll. 5 жыл бұрын
immortality and eternal youth are 2 different things, the Greek tale of Tithonus has basically already explained why Flamel looks the way he does.
@brunonjezic6208
@brunonjezic6208 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe his state in trailer is after he gave up from stone. But to my mind it seems so right how he looks there... it is almost exacly as i imagined it
@HolaEspanyol
@HolaEspanyol 5 жыл бұрын
Movie is cannon Books are bigger cannons😂
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog 5 жыл бұрын
DMGaming plays are abominations
@Nicoder6884
@Nicoder6884 5 жыл бұрын
*canon
@HolaEspanyol
@HolaEspanyol 5 жыл бұрын
Nicolino Will books have to be sacred to be canon technically lol but my spelling was for a terrible joke😂
@HolaEspanyol
@HolaEspanyol 5 жыл бұрын
Nicolino Will like the bible for example
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog 5 жыл бұрын
DMGaming I declare harry potterism as an official religion, and j.k rowling is its prophet. Our daily prophet!
@mooford4484
@mooford4484 5 жыл бұрын
hi
@immatesticle3632
@immatesticle3632 5 жыл бұрын
colin brown hello
@mooford4484
@mooford4484 5 жыл бұрын
hi!!!!
@f4h216
@f4h216 5 жыл бұрын
colin brown how are you buddy
@voltagecherry
@voltagecherry 4 жыл бұрын
My thought is that one potion doesn't just give you the eternal life, I think it only prolongs it by so many years. He may have either crafted several or one large one that hes widdled down to make these potions, and after several hundred years he finally grew tired and started to stop taking said potions, causing his body to begin to age.
@bullionbacked
@bullionbacked 3 ай бұрын
In some old alchemical text the creation of the Red elixir or elixir of life is dew that has been collected under the moon, has never seen the sun, and the stone is steeped therein for seven days in darkness. Then it is brought to the first dawn light and drunk as soon as the first rays of the sun shine upon the drinker, but not the elixir itself. Different text have variations. But once the stone was made to use it was easy enough. The hard part was creating the stone.
@ogluglugluglug1305
@ogluglugluglug1305 5 жыл бұрын
First, until I refresh
@ogluglugluglug1305
@ogluglugluglug1305 5 жыл бұрын
The irony of this comment is amazing 😂😂😂😂😂
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