Why is Schwarzenegger’s Raw Deal So Obscure?
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3 ай бұрынArnold Schwarzenegger made a whole slew of classic 80s action movies. Still, one remains totally obscure despite being released smack dab in the middle of his amazing The Terminator to Predator run for movies from 1984-87. That film in 1986’s Raw Deal. A formulaic 80s action movie, it’s the most modestly mounted Schwarzenegger action epic of the era, with Arnie coerced into starring to complete a long-standing contract with producer Dino De Laurentiis following Conan The Barbarian. It was a big box office flop but became a popular VHS rental. In this video, we dig into this obscure entry into Arnie's filmography and determine whether it deserves a little more love.
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@TheRealMrNixon 3 ай бұрын
“You should not drink… and bake” classic line we quoted a lot.
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
@TheMigrantAssassin My personal favorite is when the cop in the alley reads his fake ID alias from his wallet and says to him "Joseph P. Brenner, huh? What's the "P" stand for?" at which Arnold cooly replies "Pussy."
@FrankDux-rq7go 3 ай бұрын
Time to feed Parakeet from Red Heat is my personal favorite.
@Avenlane 3 ай бұрын
Arnold going up against the Chicago mafia was a great premise for sure, this film also features one of his best 'gear-up' scenes, and the music that plays during that scene is pure 💥
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
This and Commando both had riveting and adrenaline pumped scores. This movie also was a similar kind of movie to Commando in some ways. The one-man army deal.
@johnv3623 3 ай бұрын
even 2nd rate Arnie movies are miles ahead of whatever passes for action flics these days. Cliche script and directing elevated by Arnie's pure charm and screen presence.
@handsolo1076 3 ай бұрын
What's the P stand for?
@WhatAboutZoidberg 3 ай бұрын
"It does nothing for the cause of nonviolence" is the best tagline for an action movie I've ever heard. Def will check this one out.
@jesseswarbrick7895 3 ай бұрын
Nobody gives Arnold Schwarzenegger a "RAW DEAL"
@dycebastion 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen the movie but I vividly remember that trailer line
@michaelmyers3709 3 ай бұрын
Except by having him star in Junior.
@williamshaw9047 3 ай бұрын
I remember us laughing a lot at the last line of the movie. Darren McGavin's character gets injured and has to do physical therapy. Earlier in the movie, McGavin's son Blair, an FBI agent, is killed. McGavin is depressed and tells Arnold he wants to give up on learning to walk again and Arnie says, "Did you ever quit in front of Blair?" but it comes out "Did you evah queet in front of Blah?"
@JoBloOriginals 3 ай бұрын
That whole scene is pretty hilarious. “You don’t have to walk but you have to try like hell!” And then the nurse cries
@sekrad 3 ай бұрын
This movie holds a special place in my heart. I was born in 86, and my name is also Mark. When I was younger I had toy guns and memorized the parts of him gearing up and the end shootouts. Also have the soundtrack.
@jimbowlan5804 3 ай бұрын
The sound track is pretty underrated
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
I remember being 6 years old in 1986 and my parents had rented this out from our local video store and I had learned how to use the VCR. So, I popped this baby in and enjoyed quite an action packed, slick ride.
@metalgrinch 3 ай бұрын
The female costar Monique in this film has one of the most underrated performances of the entire 80s decade. She was SO charming and freaking hysterical in this! So many funny lines including "friends? If I want friends I'll go to summer camp!" 😂😂😂 Love that woman!!!! She needs more love!
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
She was great. So many fun lines. She was like one of those feisty, sexy femme fatales in 40's and 50's noir thrillers.
@bartsullivan4866 3 ай бұрын
ahhh when women could be sexy and smart at the same time instead of today's girl boss don't need no man dress like an Eskimo.
@anthonyclark9441 3 ай бұрын
This and Red Heat don't get the respect that they rightly deserve.
@KeyserSoze23 3 ай бұрын
The two forgotten Arnold flicks from his hey day.
@RichV20 3 ай бұрын
Red Heat and Raw Deal are my least favourite movies from Arnold's Imperial Era. They're OK, but the others during that decade were far more iconic and memorable. Its hard to follow Arnold in a "grounded" role in a police procedural or battling against organized crime. Arnold as a leading man is ridiculous and he shines best in ridiculous situations, especially Sci-Fi Action, like the Terminators, Predator, Running Man, Total Recall.
@bartsullivan4866 3 ай бұрын
Red Heat is still a lot better known. Raw Deal is often just forgotten because of Arnold's other films I remember Twins being very big, Predator and T2 being mega smash hits, Running Man kind of mediocre. But all of the films were entertaining without a doubt. He was on a role until Last Action Hero never cared for that one.
@michaelbourdages4777 15 күн бұрын
Fact
@flyguy7825 3 ай бұрын
Raw Deal is literally one of the most underrated movies Arnold Schwarzenegger has ever done!!!
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
And so many people don't know about it or haven't seen it.
@bigjermboktown6976 3 ай бұрын
I think it's good simply because it isn't one of the more well-known movies and isn't overplayed. And definitely has that nostalgic feel to it
@ICESTORM5150 3 ай бұрын
Super fun flick ! Totally underrated. 🤘
@GodfatherofRamadi 3 ай бұрын
My Aunt took me to a double feature at a drive in theater. Raw Deal, and Cobra.
@jimbowlan5804 3 ай бұрын
Not really a stallon fan outside of rocky and Rambo but cobra was a bad ass movie
@GodfatherofRamadi 3 ай бұрын
@@jimbowlan5804 stallion is how it's spelled. Yeah I had a very cool aunt who took me to the drive in movies once. I'm pretty sure that's not a thing anymore
@inthelight565 3 ай бұрын
Great night.
@AmbersKnight 3 ай бұрын
A very underrated movie and I think it's one of Arnie's best in terms of just pure dumb fun. You did however make one error in your video, Robert Davi plays a mob enforcer, he isn't an FBI agent in the film.
@cameronrobinson3933 3 ай бұрын
I find the feud between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone to be quite interesting. It always seemed like Arnold Schwarzenegger was the slightly bigger star at the time but if you go through all their movies in the 80s and 90s how to make a tally of box office grosses and you'll see that Sylvester Stallone far outpaced Arnold Schwarzenegger in how much money their movies made which makes me think that Sylvester Stallone should be considered the winner. It still seemed like Arnold was the biggest star. I can say a couple of Arnold's biggest movies made a lot more money than any of Sylvester Stallone's biggest movies but Arnold only had a couple of those and some of his most iconic and memorable movies didn't actually make that much money at the movie theater. But Sylvester Stallone's movies did make money at the theaters much more consistently.
@YouTube-tied 3 ай бұрын
According to Arnold, he tricked Sly into taking "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot!" by pretending that he actually wanted to make it.
@cameronrobinson3933 3 ай бұрын
@@KZfaq-tied you know I was a young lad when stop or my mom will shoot came out and I was a huge fan of the show Golden Girls and I saw that movie and I thought it was absolutely great. I have not seen it since and I almost don't want to because it is time capsule in my brain as being this amazing comedy but nobody talks about it like it's an amazing classic comedy LOL. I especially had no idea at the movie was considered so bad that Sylvester Stallone had to be tricked into making it. I just looked that up my mind is blown
@RichV20 3 ай бұрын
I think Stallone was the box office lead for the early to mid-80s as he was already established star with now established franchises to cash in on. Arnold clearly took over big time by the late 80s and most of the 90s. Arnold didnt have any critical duds for a decade while Stallone would get in a rut of mediocre and critical duds in the late 80s and early 90s during Arnolds prime.
@cameronrobinson3933 3 ай бұрын
@@RichV20 yeah that is true I never thought of it that way. Sylvester Stallone does have quite a few Duds a lot more than Arnold did especially by 1990
@BlazePiffington 3 ай бұрын
One of the movies that my dad had in his VHS collection I wasn’t allowed to watch, watched it anyways, of course. It had the potential to be one of his great flicks, but it felt like something was missing from the recipe… Still, though, the end with the convertible and the satisfaction song on blast really amped it up. Joey “Pussy” Brenner
@rjspires 3 ай бұрын
I didn't see this until 2 years and enjoyed it. My brother had recorded off TV when we were younger. He said it wasn't any good and had recorded over it before I had a chance to see it.
@krs4976 3 ай бұрын
I haven't seen Raw Deal since the early 90s it always pailed in comparison to most of his other action films to that point. But it has to be worth another look I will say Hamburger Hill from Irving is a very underrated Vietnam film and definitely worth a look.
@joshthemediocre7824 3 ай бұрын
Arnold brings the feel of an action movie because he's larger than life. Just like in Terminator where the movie was supposed to be a sci-fi movie, it turns into an action movie as soon as Arnold is cast because of his larger than life presence. The man is a god as far as actors go, you will never hear me say a bad word about him, and i can't stand hollywood actors really.
@jimbowlan5804 3 ай бұрын
Terminator 1 and t2 are still sci-fi horror movies Yaa there’s action but it’s not straight forward t2 was more action oriented the the first but still retains a lot of the sci-fi horror of the original t3 and later it became straight up action there was no more horror
@mikebasil4832 27 күн бұрын
Raw Deal was a particularly significant departure from The Terminator and Commando. Arnold was quite impressive in it.
@MarioLamRedRebel 2 ай бұрын
Arnold Schwarzenegger is the greatest of the 80's and 90's ...... and even today hé still rules. I love" Raw Deal" . Every time i watch him, the love get stronger. Greetings from the Netherlands
@chr1998is 3 ай бұрын
Raw Deal is a great classic Schwarzenegger film. Quips, Guns, Big Explosions etc. His 80s run is fantastic. Conan, Terminator, Commando, Raw Deal, Red Heat, The Running Man, Twins and Predator are all good action/comedy films. (Let’s not mention Red Sonja or Conan the Destroyer) 😂
@sagefoole 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned the rivalry between Sly and Arnie; it was freaking awesome to see Arnie in "Last Action Hero" where the kid points to a "Terminator" cutout with Sly and says it wasn't right. Arnie replied that he loved Sly in "The Terminator..." HILARIOUS!!!
@peterpede6601 3 ай бұрын
12 year old me, packing my gym bag filled with alll my toy guns... GOING SAVAGE IN THE BACKYARD😎 I CANT GET NO.....
@kierank1982 3 ай бұрын
Mate, it’s a tricky one! It’s not one of his most memorable films overall BUT I do remember being taken aback by the sweet-natured ending where he helps his colleague walk again during his physical therapy session. First and last time they’d ever be an Arnie ending like that ever again. Mostly just him standing on a mountain of dead bodies type endings from then on!
@nickrogers4989 3 ай бұрын
Raw deal is a kick ass or good movie to be seen from time to time! A lot of heart soul humor as well! Bad guys to the The Raw Deal man himself also as well!..😂😂
@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545 3 ай бұрын
To this day Raw Deal is my favorite non sci-fi movie.
@tobiesoftstudio823 2 ай бұрын
I remember back in the early 2000's, I would rent movies with my Dad from a little mom and pop video rental. One of my favorites of Arnold's performances.
@MATT-2042 2 ай бұрын
I have watched this movie dozens of times on my VHS tape. Underrated classic.
@Andrew_Haase 2 ай бұрын
Keep this writer/narrator on…this was a slick back hair - great kick-ass review
@GlenviewNo1 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I also saw this for the first time on VHS and I still have it! This is one of Arnie's best - good story, good bad guys, an awesome soundtrack, great action and one liners and its has Kolchak himself - Darren McGavin! Better then Commando in my opinion.
@Tecnicos-qj8pb 3 ай бұрын
Love Raw Deal, great video!
@snsdkbopper7819 3 ай бұрын
No question about, Raw Deal has always been underrated, As a Gen X’er, I can say this movie has that premium 80s action movie vibe, and the ultra sexy Kathryn Harrold, who exemplified what a hot 80s chick was supposed to look like.
@V3ntilator Ай бұрын
Raw Deal is mostly known to people who watched any new Arnold movie in 1980's including me. I never forgot this line. "You should not drink and bake."
@redfrozenseven 3 ай бұрын
The first movie I rented as an adult. This one and Hard To Kill with Seagal.
@robertward5047 2 ай бұрын
Weird one for me this. I was a huge Arnie and Stallone fan back in the 80s but I never saw this. It's been on TV countless times and I just never gave it a chance. I may revisit it soon just to see what's up. It seems to be the bridge between Arnie's low budget movies and more professionally made affairs.
@Herobox-ju4zd 3 ай бұрын
This movie always gave me the feeling either Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson should have played Arnold's part.
@alanhouston5874 3 ай бұрын
Definitely put this towards the bottom of Arnie auctioners I think what made At ie such a genius in getting to the top of Hollywood with a very narrow and strange skill set, was that he realised what he needed around him to unlock his on screen charisma This was a bit too stock to help him stand out, but then he picked Predator which was a perfect vehicle for him
@anthonycerulli5524 3 ай бұрын
Raw Deal was…fine.
@graemewilson7975 3 ай бұрын
Great review of what clearly is a compromised in the making movie like gritty it needs is dumped instantly & at studio request a big crass but not unenjoyable 90 minutes of Arnie mowing down everything in sight movie arrives. Irvin a generally good director ( Dogs of war/ghost story two classics back to back ) Irvin as well as Arnie must both been aware of what movie they made and as a riposte to Stallones equally brilliant/ridiculous COBRA it's a treat
@andrewgardner8972 Ай бұрын
Cobra and Raw deal were the best movies of 1986 that Stallone and Schwarzenegger ever made after Rambo, rocky, terminator and commando. They should have done a movie together that year.
@MrDefzilla 3 ай бұрын
You forgot Def Leppard poster on that wall.
@MSJChem 3 ай бұрын
Didn't anyone question how a sheriff in a small Amercian town had a thick Austrian accent? Apart from that, it's another classic 80's Arnie movie.
@shanester1832 3 ай бұрын
I'd say Red Heat is his most obscure movie. I saw that once in the theater and never again. It's a deservedly forgotten movie. I saw Raw Deal a fair amount but between this & Commando, Raw Deal is gonna gather some dust.
@Ideo7Z 3 ай бұрын
This is actually my favorite Schwarzenegger movie he's made second only to Predator. I loved the gritty crime drama vibe of this movie.
@makatron 3 ай бұрын
Somehow I was today years old when I realized this movie existed.
@sashaburrow6186 2 ай бұрын
Best use of the Rolling Stones "Satisfaction" in a movie... (At least if you got the version that had it)
@NothingWithoutaHandle 3 ай бұрын
This video manages to talk around the movie more than about the movie. It's like trying to listen to Abe Simpson talk about the war.
@babymammoth34 3 ай бұрын
Arnold and Robert Davi had some fun and intense rivalry chemistry throughout the film! Definitely brought some good comedy relief and enhanced the viewing experience.
@tyler_rake88 3 ай бұрын
Great action film back in the mid 80s raw deal great storyline great film back in the mid 80s
@MorbidThrasher666 3 ай бұрын
Nice Metal posters on the wall fellow Metalhead 🤟🤟
@hypernovatv911 3 ай бұрын
What a blast from the past. Raw deal always had a special place in my heart. That’s why I had it in my DVD collection for at least 15 years. Movies like the John wick franchise are more stylish but nothing can deliver up body count like these old school, one-man army, crude, ultraviolet movies like what we had in the 80s. 🎉😂
@roberw1912 3 ай бұрын
I love Raw Deal and most of Arnold Schwarzenegger films from 1982-1995 were good and he was at the peak of his powers. Sadly Die Hard eventually changed actuon movies more into average size man being the hero, rather than the muscle bound heros of the past. I am sure Arnold Schwarzenegger would do Super hero movies today.
@Pdotta1 3 ай бұрын
Stunning the talent around Arnold in this one. His performance is more wooden than others he’d already done. Cobra is better.
@Gav_na_tebya 3 ай бұрын
Hey, Pauline Kael herself, loved it!
@davidbiren2062 3 ай бұрын
Saw it opening weekend. Fun movie that checked the boxes.
@DNOstalgia 3 ай бұрын
Awesome 😊😊
@justinhollen 3 ай бұрын
I love this movie. It’s very underrated. I like it more than Commando (ducks under a desk).
@mentalhealthnetwork 3 ай бұрын
One of the best Arnie as a human being movies. I even made a remix video on my page concerning this movie: "You should not drink & bake"
@jamesburke2759 3 ай бұрын
Love this movie. one of his best. im surprised it hasnt got more tv play.
@jimkuna8687 3 ай бұрын
Good movie!!
@matthewblackwood4704 3 ай бұрын
Dude that isn't a white vest, it's called a muscle shirt, wife beater, or simple sleeves tshirt.
@thrill8723 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 LMAO Right!!!
@roywilson4514 3 ай бұрын
No. Its a vest
@Ragnar6000 3 ай бұрын
singlet
@stevekasan3105 3 ай бұрын
It's really underrated in Arnies catalogue When I was younger I didn't care much for it but it's a fun action mob movie It's filmed well and the whole mafia aspect suited Arnold well
@thrillswilbury7057 3 ай бұрын
Wow. I thought I remembered this movie pretty well but almost nothing you show here is familiar to me. I do remember the last scene where Arnold supportively helps the Darren McGavin character with his physical rehabilitation. I loved McGavin from Kolchak: The Night Stalker as a kid and I remember wishing he was in it more.
@Dr_1212 3 ай бұрын
Yup Its good
@JJ-kl7eq 3 ай бұрын
One of my top memories is the mafia girlfriend played by “Louise” Robey. Her IMDB profile is pretty sparse. But she was the female lead in the Friday the 13th TV series. I had a crush 😻 n her from that series, and I especially liked how she went Cher on us and just was billed as Robey without the Louise.
@kevsplitterskull3209 3 ай бұрын
I always had love for this. To me, the weakest Schwarzenegger movie of this era was RedHeat with lesser Belushi.
@vgregan88 3 ай бұрын
This must be what they mean by poetic justice
@justinmontana7218 2 ай бұрын
I Love it this and Commando the 2 Best Arnold Movies
@raulzavala9061 3 ай бұрын
Every action movie can't all be hits but IMO Raw Deal was one of those misfires for Arnold, it's one of those movies I haven't gone back and watch repeatedly as other Arnie flicks looking back it doesn't have as many classic Arnie quips and the tone as you said was more grittier it felt more like a Cannon flick that was turned down by Charles Bronson but then tweaked to fit Arnold's big screen charisma but somehow it just didn't register for audiences, and that Kathryn Harold was one gorgeous looking woman, she retired from acting sometime in the 90's and became a psychotherapist.
@billybollockhead5628 3 ай бұрын
I have never seen this movie! I thought I had, but watching the clips here told me i hadnt!
@robzilla730 3 ай бұрын
Saw it back in the 80s. Didn't feel the need to see it again...
@JamesB-mg9pk 3 ай бұрын
Raw Deal is an awesome movie. One of my favorite Arnold movies. This movie not being recognized more is a Raw Deal.
@Darkuni 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the best Arnie movies ever. "What's the P stand for?"
@dhgodzilla1 3 ай бұрын
They tried to make this Movie everything, Comedy, Drama, Action, Thriller, Mystery all rolled together with some 80s Cheese
@YouTube-tied 3 ай бұрын
The whole movie is a fun send-up of the genre, as evidenced by the dialogue and over the top violent action. And bonus points for whoever wrote the line "He molested, murdered, and mutilated her" and got Arnold to actually attempt to say it. He butchers it into "He moolested, murrderred, and mootilated her!" Hilarious. In my Top 5 Arnold Movies.
@johncarter101 3 ай бұрын
This is one of my favourite underrated movies ever. Can you dovideo about Oscar remake with Stallone. I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
@MCHOKUM 3 ай бұрын
It is a fantastic movie! Its miles better than red heat!
@loganford3921 3 ай бұрын
Never saw the whole movie but watched a.couple of mins over the years when it's on film 4 or sky movies.
@shilohhicks5990 3 ай бұрын
It's only personal taste, but I have seen Raw Deal a hundred times. It's so underrated and so much better than True Lies. And I didn't give up on Arnie until Terminator 3.
@Gutts31 3 ай бұрын
Huge fan of this movie!
@ShaunFVG 3 ай бұрын
Raw deal was amazing.
@robhowell4424 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s arnies best movie but still an all round great 80s action movie, like most 80s action movie from arnie you just can’t take them seriously… this is one of them movies that are great to watch on a Friday night with a few beers and a take away
@KarpowSCX 3 ай бұрын
This one is absolutely great entertainment to watch! Arnold is so hilariously bad in this one that it turns the movie to excellent action comedy. 😂 Highly recommended! 👍
@neilmatthews5590 3 ай бұрын
Closest ever to Arnie as the Punisher, so yeah I like it , although it's meh
@ClassicTor 3 ай бұрын
I really like this movie one of my favorites of the austrian oak
@ralphwheat1536 3 ай бұрын
Angie was pretty cool in that flick. I still enjoy it.
@berndkemmereit8252 3 ай бұрын
In the old days I went to the Cinema, watching the latest Arnold Movie, or the new Stallone...etc. These Heros are gone these days. You go now and watch a Spiderman movie, or a Mavels movie.
@CoinOpTV 3 ай бұрын
Good retrospective but not a top tier Arnold flick for me!
@JoBloOriginals 3 ай бұрын
Us neither!
@p40warhawk91 3 ай бұрын
My favorite line in this movie? You should not drink and bake. Words to live by.
@jasonaugustine3370 3 ай бұрын
I loved it
@sharmarvgeorge 3 ай бұрын
I always get this movie mixed up with, Red Heat.
@AlexGreat321 3 ай бұрын
I watched it last year and i remember enjoying it. But i honestly can't remember anything from it besides the " you should not drink and bake" line
@empoweredshemphoward 3 ай бұрын
🎵 i can't get no satisfaction 🎶 What does the P stand for?
@lukemillhouse4213 3 ай бұрын
Raw Deal is a classic
@Merylstreep1949 3 ай бұрын
Yeah still holds up Arnie definitely owned the 80s
@RudiW1510 3 ай бұрын
Look, big muscle guy + explosions + one liners = fun for the entire family Raw Deal = big muscle guy + explosions + one liners It's as easy as that.
@user-cn8vb9hh5z 3 ай бұрын
I watched this on Betamax when I was probably 9 or 10 and was disturbed by the scheme when the witness is executed for years!
@DCidiot 3 ай бұрын
Made in FILMington, NC! A lot of fun locations to spot around the area.
@jamesmorant1406 3 ай бұрын
Fun entertaining action movie