Yet Apple has the first 5nm... Oh boy!

@@elpatriotaLX ARM tho, not x86.

@@pablogonzalezhermosilla4210 and it wasn't first, TSMC has been ramping 5nm for a few months before apple got any chips.

@@juliancumming6893 tsmc makes apple chips

@@juliancumming6893 also apple made a large investment into tsmc to get 5nm first

considering their 10nm weren't rumored to be out until 2021 I don't think 2020 will happen unless they have fixed their design and the issues it caused going smaller compared to amds tsmc chip design which while it allows the ability to keep going smaller and gaining in power and so forth...once intels equivalent size becomes a reality...amds chips just sit there being once again behind because of their design. So I mean its really just a back and forth of fanboys every so often laughing at eachother rather than actually paying attention to everything.

@@yulfine1688 then covid

@@techhelpportal7778 i mean yeah. But Intel has to create a completley new design. Amd just uses tsmc because they really didn't have a choice.

@IHas well desktop 10nm we know is 2021 assuming covid didnt damage everything which is possible. However we also know more than likley a similar issue that amd has. While it may be better than the 9900k itll be a small difference still more than likley. Unlike amd who chose to use tsmc are the manufacturer so they didn't basically die. Intel has to create something that doesnt break existing patents etc for their architecture and so forth. Also a 3700x and 3900x is basicslly just a normal 9900k..yeah its a bit cheaper but the accompanying motherboards are basically what brings their cost even closer. The real difference was supposed to be heat and power draw..which amd chips are not fantastic at...and they still have some issues and depending if you were screwed on what chip you were given because of their horrible quality control and definitely other issues then intels old chips are superior and more efficient than amds new Chiplets.

Ok

lol, and being beaten up by AMD

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@@zombiechibixd amds "7" nm is two 7nm chiplets on a 14nm die. Also amds 7nm is the same as intels 10nm. There is no real sizing standard for cpus. Doesn't surprise me though intels cpu design is much more difficult to work with compared to amds tsmc. Which gives amd an advantage in generating smaller chips to match up against intels 14nm high end chips and hopefully doing more than just matching them or only beating them by like 4% in sinlge core processes considering their cost and cost of motherboards...kinda ruins some of it for many people who don't need multi core use. I mean 16 cores sounds amazing in...tasks that would benefit from it. Any single core tasks will straight up for probably another decade or so dominate in many areas.

@@yulfine1688 but at least Intel is trying to work on their research. So they're not all bad

@@zombiechibixd no one said Intel is well besties fanboys..I honestly dont care Intel main focus has moved to the mysterious science of quantum lol

Buhahahahahaha

Any day now... any day...

The Q 2020 calling - not till 2021 at the earliest.

yeah this didnt age well... :/

Update from the end of 2022; Intel currently at 10nm. Ryzen stopped waiting for Intel at 7nm and went on to 5nm.

Evening John. You, ah, working again?

@@lucysluckyday Yup!

I came here to comment this haha

need context.

Lol

GamingTurkey this comment gave me a headache

+Mfgcasa shut up and enjoy the fps joke ffs

GamingTurkey (Linus) why aren't CPUs made of something else... Like potato. (Me) but AMD parts are made of potato

The eye cant see 700nm, under a light microscope maybe.

yes. they say they are making a 7nm chip, but they are just going to sell an empty box.

Hero Acer 4K ProRes

Too late, Potato GLaDOS got to Linus

2moose4u a very specific area without much detail...

2moose4u hopefully not this moment, as semiconductor does not mean it does not conduct well, but that it can either conduct our not conduct depending on other factors like temperature and artificial impurities

u have a shitty chem teacher

GamerABC 👌🏼

Why would your chem teacher teach you about transistors? Not to mention the video over simplified.

Some Random Guy 666 whatareudoing this

2023: Intel still releasing 10nm chips

CodeNameZ *cough* *cough* even apu's are powerful enough to beat consoles while requiring little to no power.....

batt3ryac1d Maybe if you are innovative.

Cereal killer is right, you Pesant

*cough* *cough* Consoles use APUs you fucking idiot

No shit sherlock

PC Master Race oooo big talker here

PC Master Race not possible obviously. but did you ever hear of quantum computing

Levi Lapsley Yeah but it has trouble resolving 2+2, kinda imperfect ^^

PC Master Race how is it possible to make transistor of that size when transistor itself is made of atoms.. Atoms can't be compressed (not on earth)

Nikhil Teja quantum computing

NJBoden Last time I was this early, They announced the first celeron.

Last time I was this early apple announced an innovative product, oh that never happened I must have been dreaming.

Jean-samuel boisvert the mouse

Joe Schmoe they didn't invent the mouse, they were among the first to sell commercial mice to consumers.

Jean-samuel boisvert yup. But they announced an innovative product, didn't they?

Well first you're going to need a wi-fi connection for a RAM implant, how else would you download it?

so basicly CPU Cache is on die RAM we have L1 L2 and L3 as L4 was thought to slow it down not speed it up from a single core design for both consumer and server chip POV as after they go through the CPU Cache then they have 2GB to 1.2TB of system RAM to go through and the time to go through the small L4 cache is a slow down not a speed up for severs but a speed up for consumers so Intel dropped it in 2014~2015 broadwell had it through dropped in Skylake core design you also need to think about it from a point of view do you need more CPU Cache when the Cache to core ratio is about 1.24 or 1.25 MB to a core on a modern CPU so small so the CPU can access it quickly and return to the core after that the engineers decided to improve the other parts not listed on the spec sheet to make it faster by moving them around the reference chip design Sandybridge for Intel and Bulldozer for AMD while a majority redesign will improve performance most times at this time a higher on die cache to core ratio will slow it down not speed it up when using the same design for both consumer chips and server chips IF they are to divide the chip design apart and focus on consumer needs for one and server needs for the other then the socket in a server board will most likely not take a consumer chip and the other way around too but also the price will go up too as the amount of R&D will increase to do 2 designs instead of 1 for both so cost savings which in turn is thankfully passed onto the consumer too

memes

***** im gonna download more space on my SSD so i can play minecraft with all of the sex and car mods.

grapezzzz19 You need a power supply too.

Jeryl H. Then you obviously never went to school

joshua lotion honest question, your school has a legit computer science class or the sort?

joshua lotion also, I understand the properties of silicon, it's just I never thought about cpus being made of it

Yeah learnt this in 11th grade chemistry

most electronics are now for the circuit board chips anyways the rest of the device depends on what it is used for and how much the manufacturer wants to pay for it's parts and peices

Jared Prymont why?

There's a lot of languages out there and what people should learn for employment, what a good entry point is and a list of what popular programs were made with might help people who come to this channel looking for computer information. :)

good idea actually. depending on your goals the "right" language to start might differ. maybe JS for web applications, C# for desktop applications? Go is pretty cool, too.

+busTedOaS heh C# for desktop applications funny joke

Ryan Jones visual studio is free for learners and not that cluttered anymore.

5 nm probably 20 - 25 atoms, 3 nm 10 - 15 atoms maybe. It's all over for shrinking

SS S I know I'm 3 years late but linus made a vid about why we can't just double GPU sizes. Idk if you watched it already just wanted to help :)

@@HamuelPter tl;dr: they would have 2x fewer chips on 1 wafer. That would make it 2x more likely to not work, and there would be 2x less chips

MetTy yeah basically. There were also other problems but this was the main one

@@metty3873 and more than 2x more expensive

@@metty3873 and power consumption and heat would be enourmous

trashcan mac pro go brrr

potatoes, yeah, because you can cook a whole BBQ on top.

OBX Sand Devil I read that in a squidward voice

On the other hand, nintendo uses toasters to power their console.

AMD uses baked potato

apple use apple

Linus does not do future predictions for what is to come soon as carbon nano tubes and graphene are 2 possibilities for what Intel will use in 2020 but they also have other materials they can use or even make a new one in a lab to use in their chips material engineering is a field upon itself

yumri4 Mic nor was referring to the joke used by Netlinked daily host keys . Linus was once a part of Netlinked daily

CAAAAAARBON NAAAAANOOOTUUUUUUUUUUBES! Riley/Keys anyone?

+Dieser 1337 Baka. whoosha

This video is about silicon. Not carbon.

Lucky the earlies ive been was when i was a zygote

maybe. it hasnt changed.

Not exactly. Sand is Silicon dioxide. The silicon used to make integrated circuits is extracted from sand but it isn't sand.

the main point here is a definitive example of just how common silicon is

someone learned something from playing Anno I guess.

it isn't just sand. The middle east is all sand but they will not make the simplest chip in the universe in a quintillion years

+ed tyler Intel has a fabrication plant in Israel, which is a middle-eastern country

But imagine how much more expensive they'd be in Ireland!

it would be rather cheap actually, considering that ireland has one of the highest potato consumpiton per capita in the world

wat is potatoe, is dat wat the politburo do to mens sent to gulag

looking at how carbon nanotubes work they are to big for a 7nm chip but if Intel can use that concept on a smaller scale something like that will be used as carbon is the most likely element to be used for the chip and germanium for the board connections but both are more expensive than Silicon and if Intel prices itself out of the market of consumers it will be bad

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TinchoX Did I have a problem with you? Or you're a troll?

BeAnBeAn22 Romania (România).

[Insert reference to The Metal by Tenacious D]

Lamb of God is the only sound good enough to enter my ear canals.

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a m a z i n g

DJC9000 Productions Metallica ain't true metal anymore

Why?

@@super-awesome-funplanet3704 r/woooosh

Well that wouldn't increase performance but require more power and cooling for the same performance. Making CPUs smaller makes them more efficient.

gentuxable Ok, Why wouldn't that make them faster?

Birki gts because the signal has to travel through more physical space than if the cpu is more compact and because there is a limit on much a typical task can be made in parallel so even if you had a big CPU highly optimized it would wait for even more time than our systems do now.

+patttiat if the games were to compromise in some other aspecs. Optimization is another word for "let's see what we can compromise on to achieve this other thing in the specific capabilities of this piece of hardware". It doesn't always lead to miracles.

***** yes and no, your definition is right but most optimizations are made so they compromise on aspects not perceived or way less perceived than "the other thing" by the user. So ideally you'd compromise where it doesn't matter but I wouldn't say anything specific about abilities of certain hardware because that needs verification to be correct.

thats siliCONE rubber not siliCON

Tianchen Zheng yes,but silicone ranks quite high in the rankings

Silicon is the 8th most abundant element in the universe, and the 2nd most abundant element in the earth's crust. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_elements_in_Earth's_crust

Well, I know Iron is the heaviest element that can be made by fusion, so Iron is probably pretty common.

You can make heavier elements with fusion (that's how all the heavier ones got made) but all the fusion steps up to iron give off more energy than they take in, whereas iron requires more energy in than it gives off in fusing

Is it just me or does it surprise any of you that we have more gold than silver, or Iodine be for that matter which we eat everyday as salt

Mourneris now that's an OC lel

I wish I could go back to 2020, at least.

7.111% faster than a i7 2600K

Pyjamas987 - Clash Royale and more nah we will be able to grow our own 7950x

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