Why Jesus Isn't a Hero

Why Jesus Isn't a Hero | Nietzsche

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00:00 Introduction
01:24 The psychology of the Saviour
05:48 Ernest Renan
13:42 The Kingdom of God is within you
Despite Nietzsche's final work of philosophy carrying the title of 'Antichrist', this work is remarkably positive about Christianity's central figure: Jesus Christ. Reading the book, it quickly becomes clear that the title refers to being anti-Christian rather than being anti-Jesus, because Nietzsche speaks in terms of admiration for Jesus.
He blames the early Christians (the Apostles, and Paul specifically) of distorting Christ's message for their own political and social gain, introducing elements of ressentiment and will to power that were simply absent from Jesus's life and teachings.
This video looks at a passage in the Antichrist in which Nietzsche claims that Jesus was not a hero nor a genius. It's a reaction to Ernest Renan, a historian of religion who played a central role in what theologians now call the "quest for the historical Jesus." A period in history during which scholars looked at the Gospels through the historical, not the theological, lens. It was a movement that sought to demystify the Gospels and separate fact from legend. Studying the Gospels as you would any other historical text, by critically examining its sources and internal contradictions.
Renan, in his best-selling and hugely influential biography of Jesus, ascribed heroic qualities to Jesus (while also denying his divinity and ability to perform miracles.)
Nietzsche accuses Renan of being a lackluster psychologist and furthermore that to call Jesus a hero is simply a mistake.
He then proceeds to give his own account of Jesus's psychological profile: claiming that the undistorted message of Jesus is one of asceticism, a new mode of being, free from resentment, a superabundance of love -- quite the opposite of what later Christians would make of his life when they sought to claim some sort of victory over their Roman oppressors and introduced ideas like Heaven or the claim that the Kingdom of God is some sort of other world which will come to pass in a future time in a spiritual place.

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@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

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@allmightlionthunder5515 Жыл бұрын

The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake image of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things orphans and ex slaves

@Brice23 Жыл бұрын

Many Christian’s were martyred despite having an easy way out of it. Some far more brutally than Jesus himself was. I hate to second guess the claim that only one true Christian existed but I am pretty damn sure that those men who were tortured in insane ways and still refused to recant their beliefs, those those people were true believers. If they aren’t true Christians then there were never any

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

They martyr were sinful Christ was not. (Ave Christ Rex)

@Brice23 9 ай бұрын

@@Plsfindmychanel sinners aren’t true Christians?

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

@@Brice23 they are but they’re martyrdom was less compared to Christ

@philovermyer6166 9 ай бұрын

Christians are always the most amazed by the torture suffered for their faith, forget quickly though the amazing torture caused because of it.

@mrcheckhammmer 9 ай бұрын

I think Jesus's death was the most brutal imaginable, because its the condemnation and slaughter of the most loving person to live on the planet. It is the complete outpouring of evil upon the complete nature of good personified in Christ

@markcharron Жыл бұрын

"Nietzsche is dead." -God

@jerrythemike3584 Жыл бұрын

*Process to 360 no scope Nietzsche from heaven*

@reallifereviews8543 Жыл бұрын

LMAO 😆

@Jp-ui3fw Жыл бұрын

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@vincentibanez1450 Жыл бұрын

How to tell if you lost your brain without telling you lost your brain:

@MinhTran-gv3pg Жыл бұрын

@@vincentibanez1450 pretty sure its a joke?

@kiljaeden5405 Жыл бұрын

I'm agnostic, but I've always loved the phrase *"The kingdom of God is within you"*

@jamesabestos2800 Жыл бұрын

And now I know As a Christian

@BioChemistryWizard Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be crazy if all the cells and defense mechanisms in your body were actually highly conscious but you just cannot tell from the human brain perspective? All the wars and cycles of history going on inside even your physical body while the transcendental apperception interacts with a celestial plain outside the body?

@TheGuiltsOfUs Жыл бұрын

"Hogwarts is within you!" Wow, so profound!

@williamkoscielniak7871 Жыл бұрын

You don't need to have any particular metaphysics in order to realize that the kingdom of God is within you. It is something that happens (if you are blessed, and we all are!) and when it happens you know. You know that everything you've pretended to be up until this point is just a mask, and that who you truly are is love, has always been loved, and will always be love. There is no need to desire and crave and grasp and all these things outside of ourselves. We have all we need within us! "The kingdom of God is within you".

@Faus4us Жыл бұрын

Within and without. That puts a whole new meaning to it.

@joaosolreis3004 9 ай бұрын

I find it fascinating how people who lived hundreds of years after Christ can genuinely believe they understand Jesus better than his own disciples

@KjernekraftverkOfficial 9 ай бұрын

WORD

@S_-- 9 ай бұрын

I find it fascinating how people who lived hundreds of years after Christ can believe they know the disciples and what they did/wrote. Or that they even exist for that matter.

@alexanderyangov767 9 ай бұрын

Those disciples of Jesus were from completely illiterate classes.

@alexanderyangov767 9 ай бұрын

@@BRRISING Christians are also very arrogant about the existence of their Yahweh and they are worshipping Yahweh in the most correct way.

@ChillAssTurtle 9 ай бұрын

His disciples thought the end of the world was happening in their lives.. jesus lied to them n they believed it cus only fools seemed to abandon their families n futures to go wander around begging for money

@justinhart2831 Жыл бұрын

"...sometimes there's a man -- I won't say a hero, 'cause what's a hero? But sometimes there's a man." -- Nietzsche

@allmightlionthunder5515 Жыл бұрын

The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake image of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. seems not to be a myth lol HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things orphans and ex slaves

@briansimerl4014 Жыл бұрын

It's just a rug.

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Christ is a Hero.

@MSHNKTRL 8 ай бұрын

@@briansimerl4014 but it REALLY tied the room together.

@matttiberius1900 Жыл бұрын

Christ being resentment free is like a vacuum that attracted it from others. I find it hard to believe that's an accident.

@zealgaming8161 Жыл бұрын

Christ is a powerful meme, people will know of Christ, and see the men in their daily lives who they so greatly respect for their charisma, love and virtues. I only know one good man in my life, he raised 20+ kids to adulthood among his own kids. He was a man capable of loving someone else's kids like they where his own. But what was most impressive about him, was that he was a teacher, and a very good one at that. For during his lessons, he tamed the entire school, even the worst of the problem children would listen to his lessons. How is that? Well, respect. Kids would listen to him, because to not do so would be a very "uncool" thing to do, as he was so beloved by everyone, not listening would get you branded a heretic. Social pressure is hell a scary....

@RNCM_Philosophy Ай бұрын

Read Meister Eckhart's sermons on the attractive power of the cross, you'll find the same metaphor being used

@pedrobarbosaduarte3704 23 күн бұрын

@@zealgaming8161 mf really wants to be taken serious after stating "Christ is a powerful meme" 💀

@redninja4085 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps a bit unrelated, but have you considered making a video about Nietzsche's relationship with Giacomo Leopardi? He is mentioned very frequently in Nietzsche's works, but I would still find an in-depth analysis of Nietzsche's thoughts and opinions on Leopardi's nihilism and pessimism quite interesting. Great video as always btw :)

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Yes…;)

@redninja4085 Жыл бұрын

@@WeltgeistYT Thanks for the reply!! Can't wait 😁

@iwantanxbox8765 Жыл бұрын

Jesus was a hero, he did have a conflict. His conflict was with the force of evil(the temptation of the material world for power and glory). I think his conflict was with the very nature of the world(you could argue is inherently evil) which is why he died I think. edit: the story where satan tempts him in the desert i think is a good example

@whosrichpurnell3328 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting. I’ve heard this idea of nature and the material world being evil from early gnostics and mystic Christians. My understanding of the temptations are of human condition, such as fear, lust, desire etc. rather than resisting physical reality itself

@victorygarden556 8 ай бұрын

@@whosrichpurnell3328 narrative is how we configure reality in our minds top to bottom to make sense of things and react accordingly, aka survival. Survival requires narrative. narrative requires perspective. Perspective requires separation so you can distinguish you from the object of your attention because objections of attention try to kill you so you must focus. Separation inherently causes sin because your perspective neglects the totality of fact. The only person who doesn’t do that if you ask Christians is Jesus which means from birth he always knew the totality of gods heart because perfect men must have gods heart, which is a circumvention of the requirement of knowing the the totality of the facts. He never sinned, and sacrificed himself for every sinners sake. Those two things prove his divinity and godliness. The miracles were extra proof to the Christians but really those two points are the reason why, instead of the symptoms like the ability to do miracles. Everyone except God being a sinner is true because no mortal man is perfect, so only the perfect person sent from god, who must be a part of god but not the totality, who if you ask Christians is Jesus, and can respect the totality because he is part of god. He has the totality of the perspective so he surrenders knowing he can sacrifice himself for sinners, because if he didn’t sacrifice himself the only fruit of that labor is sinners waging war against sinners for sinning when both sides have sinned. He can turn the other cheek as an homage to god and let Christians, the sinners, defend themselves because self defense is a sinner activity because it’s sinners killing sinners for sinning when they both justified the force leveraged against them. The most moral sinners only sin would be defense of his family against immoral attack because of defending the elderly, women, children or suicide martyrdom in the name of awareness in the defense of others if I’m correct.

@mesa9724 5 ай бұрын

I don’t think he died for that. He could have lived in reclusion faithful to his way of life. He was killed because he angered the elites.

@RMadaraPlay 3 ай бұрын

Its ironic because in Nietzsche's perspectives he gained power by conquering and overcoming this, living a life so pious and disciplined and chosing to die over compromising any of his own ideals, he was a sort of higher man, despite being kinda lowborn and his ideals beign slave, the way that he he did things shows the courage and beavery of the aristocrats of the past, and that's why he has so much significance to history, a great leader that aspired many people into his own beliefs looking down on the common romans and jews alike

@insxmniac7052 Ай бұрын

@@RMadaraPlay Yep. He also does this with Socrates. Slave, but admirable. Almost like two sides constantly at war. Leaders of the weak and the strong, "villains" and "heroes" but without it's moral implications.

@johnbrion4565 9 ай бұрын

When I read the Gospels they seem to be documenting actual historical events. Even the Gospel of John with its beautiful theology and symbolism has now been shown by modern archeology and historians to be historically accurate.

@auburnqt6225 8 ай бұрын

I'm curious as to what evidence has been proven to be historically accurate? Any sources? Thanks.

@johnbrion4565 8 ай бұрын

@@auburnqt6225 yes. Here is some archaeological evidence that confirms Gospel details: The nineteenth-century discovery of the Pool of Bethesda mentioned in John 5 The 1961 discovery in Caesarea of an inscription with Pontius Pilate’s name The 1961 discovery in Caesarea Maritima of a third-century mosaic that had the name “Nazareth” in it, the first known ancient nonbiblical reference Coins bearing the names of the Herodian dynasty: Herod the king, Herod the tetrarch of Galilee (who had John the Baptist murdered), Herod Agrippa I (who killed James Zebedee), and Herod Agrippa II (before whom Paul testified) The 1990 discovery of an ossuary that had the Aramaic words “Joseph son of Caiaphas” inscribed on it The ossuary discovered near Jerusalem in 1968 that contained the bones of a first-century man who had been crucified, details of which confirm the Gospel narratives of Jesus’ crucifixion This is a good book on the topic. John P. Meier, A Marginal Jew: Rethinking the History Jesus, vol. II Here is a good article on the reliability of the Gospels. Hope this helps. www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-reliability-of-the-gospels

@nodruj8681 8 ай бұрын

I love how when the xtians were worried it wasnt historical you all argue its non literal but now you feel evidence is their suddenly you've switched again. Sounds like you guys lack so called faith.

@woozworldbabe312 7 ай бұрын

which historians 😂😂 where are your sources ??

@johnbrion4565 7 ай бұрын

@@woozworldbabe312 there are more ancient New Testament texts than any other ancient texts in history. We have more copies of old texts closest to Jesus life than any other historical figure in that era or before.

@Aa07aa Жыл бұрын

Nietzsche literally proves the point that Jesus is the only one perfect and sinless. The actions of the early Christians don’t match the words in the bible, so therefore you cannot say the words were changed to fit their narrative.

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

That is rather PRESUMPTUOUS of you, wouldn’t you agree, Slave? Presumption is evil, because when one is PRESUMPTUOUS, one makes a judgement about a matter, despite having insufficient facts to support one’s position.

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

@@rub3n410, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@ciscoflores5512 Жыл бұрын

Lolololol noooooooooooooooooo.

@CrazyLinguiniLegs Жыл бұрын

Nietzsche does not “literally prove” that Jesus was perfect or sinless. If you honestly think he does, then you are doing some Olympic-level mental gymnastics with Nietzsche’s words.

@julianv1828 Жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Why do you even write like that? Why so demeaning if you are a supposed "reverend"?

@alohm Жыл бұрын

I agree with the observation of "ressentiment" A French word for to re-live ones experience. Similar to modern trauma theory. To live and act without regret is how we could summarize many paths, being guided by one's principle, and in service to the I and the other.

@damson9470 5 ай бұрын

in service to I alone will result to in service for other

@dp1381 4 ай бұрын

I used to love Nietzsche. He is certainly a brilliant intellect, and a potent diagnostician of his age. He correctly identified the effect of abandoning God (Nihilism) but he had no adequate solution to the problem. We simply cannot make up our own values. I followed Nietzsche’s philosophy for about ten years until it showed me the absolute necessity for a transcendent source of values. From there it was a short step into Christ’s arms.

@wenonahenderson4901 4 ай бұрын

Amen well said

@gg_plays7647 3 ай бұрын

i dont think nietzche is right either but i see him as being right on some perspective but also christianity as a whole being not the right mindset both of them are one dimensional and lack depth only loving and having love as a basis of your belief will rob the meaning of it in every meaning theres a conflict what gives meaning to christianity is not the inherent good its the duality heaven and hell , that is god not only the bad but the good and not only the good but the bad And also as nieztche's philosophy that is to suffering not everything is hell without heaven both of them are the same because without one of them the other would lack the meaning So my philosophy is being both to be your true self

@alancantu2557 3 ай бұрын

In my opinion, that’s the whole point of Nietzsche’s philosophy. He wasn’t attempting to define a single, rigid replacement for the morality of Christianity, rather he highlighted the ways in which Christianity limited human potential in the modern era. The whole point is to take that realization and encourage new ways of conquering life. The true Nietzschean is not concerned with whether or not he is right, but whether or not he opens doors for “free spirits” so that humanity can continue developing.

@gg_plays7647 3 ай бұрын

@@alancantu2557 if you saw nietzche he said that he favors the strong over the weak how isnt that something other than defined what he said first as his philosophy it is for people to not listen to it to begin with so it isnt a philosophy at all just a suggestion

@ecovolved 10 ай бұрын

You have a gift for explaining difficult ideas and some great insights

@WeltgeistYT 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@williampeters9838 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps it is the polemical nature of people or of Nietzsche himself but after reading him it baffles me that his ideas are not let to stand alone but instead must be considered as antithetical to Christianity. A mature Christian would not deny his analysis of “the kingdom of God is within you” but simply go a step further and declare that the kingdom of heaven is both within you on earth and in heaven. The hinterwelt philosophy may be a ditch that many Christians fall into, but Nietzsche correctly asserts that it isn’t what Jesus whether man or divine lived. I have found his explorations of human nature to be undeniably revealing and the sincerity of conviction which he displays inspiring. This is not an insufferable “middle ground” remark in which I make any compromise as a Christian, but praise for the ideas of a man who couldn’t believe in universal truths yet spent his life searching for them. Truths cannot be mutually exclusive and while I know that there was not room for God in his philosophy, there is not only room for but consensus with much of his philosophy in Christianity. I enjoy your channel because you present ideas with good will and a desire for truth.

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@PeterM8987 Жыл бұрын

Consesus with a radical perspectivist who has a deep resentment towards everything Christianity stands for?

@BrunofanofK Жыл бұрын

Reminder that even Nietzsche flip ploped around this topic, due to the helenization of the western sphere Jesus fits neatly in the same catogory as Dionisus Achetype, the gone and returning heir of the Father. Nietzsche even called himself the crucified one and dyonisus intermitently.

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Nietzsche never suffer like Christ did

@brendanwiley253 9 ай бұрын

Of course He isn't simply a hero, He is God💪

@endygonewild2899 9 ай бұрын

SIgma

@oreocarlton3343 9 ай бұрын

Knight of faith is not a tragic hero and his heroism rises above the greek idea of self sacrifing hero as it can only be understood by himself and God, e.g. Abraham sacrificing Isaac. Kierkegaard wrote on it in Fear and trembling.

@Anonymous-ez6cz 8 ай бұрын

only one God almighty the father Yahweh, Jesus the son of God, he's the hero, if we change if you know what I mean

@thanosfickda 6 ай бұрын

far from god, a god have no human form, god is beyond everything, control everything, god is everywhere

@Anonymous-ez6cz 6 ай бұрын

@@thanosfickda the Bible says there's many lords and many gods but to us one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ

@theredgoblin562 9 ай бұрын

Neitzche calling everything a coping mechanism while desperately trying to convince people life is bad

@peixeserra9116 Ай бұрын

But life is bad. Unfair, cruel and nihilistic. That doesn't stop humans, and even some other lifeforms, from trying to make it good. And sometimes succeeding, even if for a brief moment. Jesus was one of many said people who attempted that.

@Loodoom Жыл бұрын

Can you make a behind the scenes video on how you make your presentations?

@nabster9253 Жыл бұрын

can you make a video about nietzsche and his relation to the modern left through foucoult and derrida, i think it would be interesting but i couldnt find any info. love your work

@theGuilherme36 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it would be amazing to know more how Nietzsche would be against the people who, supposedly, follow him

@joblakelisbon Жыл бұрын

Postmodernists and Marxists entire belief system is the epitome of resentment. Foucault's own life was the essence of decadence, lacking strength, vigour, honour and dying, as he did, of HIV contracted in a bath-house.

@markoslavicek Жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas I think you've stumbled upon a channel which isn't for you, but welcome nevertheless. Hope you'll learn something new

@ruthless7879 Жыл бұрын

@@markoslavicek why wouldn’t it be for him?

@ruthless7879 Жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas damn did you write that all by yourself? You should write books the way you write is really good

@gregpappas Жыл бұрын

This is really a brilliant presentation.

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

Brilliant and lacklustre are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@JW-oe1lf 9 ай бұрын

It’s alright it seems like Nietzsche doesn’t get the gospels

@brianw.5230 5 ай бұрын

Jesus did not say all would be saved. He said to "Enter through the narrow gate" to Heaven.

@jakovvodanovic9165 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Nietzsche never disappoints, just as your presentations never do.

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Nietzsche is a disgrace

@ANGRYGREEKMANYO 9 ай бұрын

Jesus literally was sinless and died for our sins rose again and defeated death sin and the devil. Ultimate Hero of Eternity. who cares what some satanic deviI thinks? hes in Hell now same with Op and most of u soon.

@loosegoose2466 8 ай бұрын

I thought I would hate this, but it was really interesting and thoughtful. Thank you so much. Bless you.

@WeltgeistYT 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@lazarnikolic4958 Жыл бұрын

Great work!

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@mrniceusername Жыл бұрын

Can u make a video about Nietzsche's contribution to psychology or Nietzsche as a psychologist?

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Yes, good suggestion

@assim2213 Жыл бұрын

@@WeltgeistYT Eu sei quem é Jesus Cristo e o mundo inteiro sabe também quem é a Nietzsche quem é mesmo?????????????

@assim2213 Жыл бұрын

@@WeltgeistYT Qual é o feito de Nietzsche mesmo pra uma pessoa que seja? Qual é seu legado? Mudou vida de quem? Ele é o que pra quem? O que ele disse, pensa fez importa ou modifica a vida de quem? Já Jesus Cristo............

@shubhamkumar-nw1ui 10 ай бұрын

What does Nietzsche think of socrates ..was drinking the glass of poison heroic or anti heroic ?

@Gantaipao 4 ай бұрын

Explain.

@MWV999 Жыл бұрын

The words "The Kingdom of God is within you." Can be subject to different Interpretations, especially when putting it in context with other verses. It doesn't inherently mean something solely inward.

@johndelong5574 Жыл бұрын

Despite having a brain ravaged by syphlis, Fred had a keen insight.

@Lknzvc Жыл бұрын

Bloodborne reference

@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын

It’s Fritz. Fritz is short for Friedrich.

@bagelz3359 9 ай бұрын

Carl jung was write about philosophers, they're suffering from neurosis.

@ilonabaier6042 10 ай бұрын

I wish you would give the page number or at least in which section/capital the quotes are.

@WeltgeistYT 10 ай бұрын

If it’s not mentioned then it’s the same section as the previous quote

@gregpappas Жыл бұрын

You have given us so much with your clear and focused presentation. I have not rejected Neitzche following Bretrand Russel, byt sm much richer for listening to your work. Thanks.

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

Kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that. Russell is very unfair to him

@helvete_ingres4717 9 ай бұрын

Russell's understanding of all continental philosophy (esp. German) is pitiful

@addahandle-k8d 9 ай бұрын

Byt sm? Dowa ha ha

@WatersAbove77 8 ай бұрын

“A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg-or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” - C.S. Lewis

@michaelthompson9540 Жыл бұрын

I never cared if he was white or black. Or if he was a real person. It is the teachings and path of Jesus that matters to me most.

@blackstonewielder19 Жыл бұрын

What justification is there for the equation of the 'prince of this world' in the Gospel of John with Satan? For that matter, why insist that the 'world' that he spoke of was the material world? It could instead refer to a state of perception.

@SupermonkeyPlaysMC Жыл бұрын

1:55 It almost feels like an archetypal role almost thrust upon historical Jesus, or in other words a fusion of ideals??? I am not one to know, but the longer I review,revisits, and rewrite/expand my personal understanding of the Bible’s contents; the more I find myself wondering if or rather how what or why may Jesus, be the symbol he is today? I genuinely wonder what the pubic unconscious was about in that day, I almost crave the sentiments and mentality just to “feel” how ancient it is compared to me as I am now.

@kiljaeden5405 Жыл бұрын

I used to read Antichrist before, Nietzsche said Judas wasn't the traitor, but it's the other apostle that was the traitor since he changed the wisdom of Jesus

@Lknzvc Жыл бұрын

Jews are

@PeterM8987 Жыл бұрын

A powerful statement with no corroborating evidence. Is this an example of how radical perspectivism works?

@poTato_777 9 ай бұрын

@@PeterM8987he is right tho ;ddd Judas hasn't changed teachings of the Christ, to appeal to the pagans

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Judas is a traitor

@iloveyoushima 9 ай бұрын

Which apostle changed it?

@rexboaden1441 Жыл бұрын

A very clear, articulate and helpful video, many thanks! I find myself resonating positively with most of the points in this explanation of Nietzsche’s later thought, coming to similar conclusions during the years following my expulsion from a narrow, intolerant, fundamentalist church. 😊 Keep up the great work !

@idonthaveaname42 9 ай бұрын

tell me your expulsion story

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Catholic is best Church Salve Regina

@Timihaastrup 8 ай бұрын

Do not find religion, find Christ. Many views of Christianity (the belief) have been destroyed by individuals and churches (organisation). They pump out these pharisaical teachings to assert some kind of superiority and take advantage of the spiritually timid and innocent, especially in America. I had never even heard of paid church memberships until I looked at America. I’m writing this comment really to encourage following Christ himself. There are all kinds of false teachers.

@angelvollant864 6 ай бұрын

The way Nietzsche describes Jesus towards the end of the video makes me think of "amor fati". "Love of fate".

@willb295 Жыл бұрын

Great videos, as always

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@caesarpizza1338 9 ай бұрын

Holy shit it’s neetche 😮

@katierees1982 Жыл бұрын

Crazy, I literally fell down a wikipedia rabbit hole of the pursuit of the historical Jesus! Love the topic.

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@Anon1gh3 Жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Weston Price

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

@@Anon1gh3, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@CarlosDaniel_96 Жыл бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomasno im a canibal

@ReverendDr.Thomas Жыл бұрын

@@CarlosDaniel_96, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️ Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@Mr.Phoreskin 9 ай бұрын

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

@eliasbonafe9236 8 ай бұрын

And? What about it?

@finthefilmkid.youtube Жыл бұрын

Im wondering how the shroud of turin is explained?

@matthewchambers9428 Жыл бұрын

Many translations read "The Kingdom of God is AMONG you. The "you" was plural. Jesus was saying that God's Kingdom had begun among the disciples in the physical world. The Kingdom is like a "mustard seed" Jesus said and will grow in our world. I like Nietzsche but its tough to see him missing the point quite a bit here. :/

@grantrogers1858 9 ай бұрын

Christian hypocrites? Unchristlike Christians? Thats literally the whole point of Christianity. We are incapable no matter how much we try of being perfect like the perfect man, Jesus. hence the need for a savior, mercy from God. This mercy, this saving gift is not earned but is given as a gift from God to those who are undeserving of the gift.

@mattsuran1270 Жыл бұрын

Lately I've heard that God favors certain sports teams and countries.

@MsForeverFluffy Ай бұрын

This is such a hot take and I love it very much!

@alohm Жыл бұрын

A flawed idol allows us to see our own self achieving more, inspiration can easily be discouragement.

@abyzzwalker Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of The Great inquisitor from Brothers Karamazov. Where the inquisitor makes an argument against the church but in favor of Jesus.

@rrrrrr1069 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Some counterpoints (whether to the video creator, Nietz, or both): 1) asceticism coupled with an atheistic belief is perhaps the most absurd of all ways to live. Without a goal of transcending this world for something greater (as in- beyond this world), denying oneself the avenues of agency & pleasure of this world, is pointless & self-defeating. Essentially, one is then just dying to this world with nowhere to actually go. One might as well just actually die in that case or just live for today. At least christian/deistic/etc asceticism has the goal of attaining a better existence entirely, as an effect of such denial. 2) the last part of the video sends some sharp, pointed accusations against early Christians [such accusations are probably accurate for LATER Christians]. Yet, there is nothing given to back up these claims of the early Christians flipping the message of Christ for their own selfish gain of some sort. When in fact, evidence, both of secular & religious, shows the early Christians living out (albeit, as best imperfect humans can) & spreading the message of Christ.

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

True, there’s lots of speculation in the book.

@johnprendergast4881 Жыл бұрын

Why would it be absurd to have self discipline and not believe in religion?? What a strange view. That would be like saying all religious believers are hedonistic... there is no good rationale behind it. Why would it be necessary to transcend this world to find value in existence? I'm not following where you coming from or going with this.

@rrrrrr1069 Жыл бұрын

@@johnprendergast4881 no, I'm not saying self-discipline is absurd without a spiritual/religious aspect. I was only speaking to the specific self-discipline of asceticism, but even then i think i could see how that could have purpose without any view beyond this life. Although i guess its just harder for me, personally, to envisage that. Also, i'm not saying a person needs to transcend this world to find value in existence. I was just kind of hyper focusing on the whole idea behind asceticism & in regards to whatever point(s) i had in mind from the vid. But i wouldn't want that to be taken as an absolute; i don't like closing down exploring. Thanks for clarifying.

@felipecarvalho6211 9 ай бұрын

Excelent work, Thanks. Ótimo trabalho, obrigado.

@WeltgeistYT 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@GustavoSilva-ny8jc Жыл бұрын

18:16 WOW, top 10 greatest endings of all time, it truly embodied the "love thy enemy." In fact, all the core messages of their philosophy too and at the end he (bible one) was rewarded with ressurection and eternal bliss in heaven (well, he was the son of god so i guess he would go there anyway). But more than he "died for us" it feels like "he died for himself as needed step to reach heaven and it's an example of what everyone should be able to endure to reach the same". At least that's what i conclude from what i got from the video and from what i know.

@thesnatcher3616 4 ай бұрын

Died "for us" "for the benefit of", "in place of", "as a representative of", "because of". Many interpretations exist. But I say that perhaps all are true.

@samhinnant4416 9 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ is King, and all will kneel before him.

@moorbilt 11 ай бұрын

To be a person who truly turns the cheek is another kind of crazy.

@valerietaylor9615 9 ай бұрын

I’ve always thought so.

@spenny8233 8 ай бұрын

U don’t understand it’s not even about Christianity but until u give up one the material It won’t happen

@moorbilt 8 ай бұрын

whats happening?@@spenny8233

@blanchegreco7201 Жыл бұрын

This was eye opening. Thank you

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@oreocarlton3343 9 ай бұрын

"The tragic hero assures himself that the ethical obligation is totally present in him by transforming it into a wish. Agamemnon, for example, can say: To me the proof that I am not violating my fatherly duty is that my duty is my one and only wish. Consequently we have wish and duty face to face with each other. Happy is the life in which they coincide, in which my wish is my duty and the reverse, and for most men the task in life is simply to adhere to their duty and to transform it by their enthusiasm into their wish. The tragic hero gives up his wish in order to fulfill his duty. For the knight of faith, wish and duty are also identical, but he is required to give up both. If he wants to relinquish by giving up his wish, he finds no rest, for it is indeed his duty. If he wants to adhere to the duty and to his wish, he does not become the knight of faith, for the absolute duty specifically demanded that he should give it up. The tragic hero found a higher expression of duty but not an absolute duty." Kierkegaard "Fear and trembling"

@SupermonkeyPlaysMC Жыл бұрын

0:51 This specifically Harkins to that idea related to humanity, but also a personal idea that I’ve been endorsing. It’s almost like applying general relatively back to psychological principles related to Nietzsche x Jung, but if I have to be honest, encompasses, a lot of the prolific teachings but I’m realizing this almost after the fact. Kind of directly creating a feeling of synchronicity between the two. But every person has their own individual perception based upon specific assumptions and personal knowledge on the self in my early flawed observations. The apparent Reality in which we find so comfortable, when looked at with enough scrutiny, almost comes out, looking unrecognizable to the world in which we assumed to be truth previously. Sort of like the cycle of the hero, although I’m hesitant to tie it to that yet . It’s almost encouraging on a weird level to understand and pick up where, to me at least, a complete stranger work, their entire life to get to. And only through the power given to us as a society in the last 25 or so years have I been able to make something like this happen due to the mass availability of specific information . I appreciate the card that you put out it means a lot

@theofanes3009 Жыл бұрын

God: Nietzsche Is dead Nietzsche : 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@cywren6821 Жыл бұрын

very intresting take! i love it

@serrato. 2 ай бұрын

The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? When will we have an answer...

@john-dp6vo 9 ай бұрын

Every body is trying so hard to dismantle christianity yet here we are 🤷‍♂️

@lilSenDog 8 ай бұрын

Probably karma for what your people did during the Spanish Inquisition , the forced conversion of North Americans and Australian indigenous . The support of slavery and the burning and hanging of so-called witches which was also false accusation based killings. Yeah good thing you don’t believe in karma lol.

@floridaman318 8 ай бұрын

@@lilSenDogfound the ex protestant.

@peixeserra9116 Ай бұрын

Christianity is dismantling itself, as it's slowly being unable to explain the new World we live in. It is the natural cycle of life that ideas and theologies run through.

@stewartthomas4193 Жыл бұрын

Leonardo da Vinci said " The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions " Plato shared with us wisdom he learnt from Egypt, wisdom that was a death sentence in Greece, Rome ( Christianity ) ..Pythagoras, Socrates and later Hypatia of Alexandria. Plato in his dialogue " The Republic " tells the allegory of " The Cave " Plato starts by telling us of prisoners being held in a sort of underground den, let us examine this den via the geometry of Bernhard Riemann and Felix Klein..Klein bottle..3rd and 4th dimensions. Plato tells us that the prisoners are bound up unable to move their heads, let us examine this bondage via the psychology of Erich Fromm.. socialisation of consciousness.. aware-unaware. Plato tells us that the prisoners mistake shadows for substance, let us examine this mistake via the philosophy of Thales and Kant..synthetic a priori..not thing in itself. Plato tells us that one of the prisoners is released, let us examine this release via the instructions given by T.Lobsang Rampa..stilling the mind and conscious astral travel..leaving the cave/body. Plato tells us that the prisoners will reject this release, let us examine this rejection via the psychological effects of Stockholm syndrome..Plato quotes Homer " Better to be a poor man, and have a poor master, and endure anything, than to think and live after their manner " Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. Mathew 23 13 31.

@allmightlionthunder5515 Жыл бұрын

The allegory of " The Cave " What about The allegory Ship_of_Theseus a thing that is changed to much is no longer the thing same as is trans humanism The prison aka (Tartarus) a cave temple prison Aladdin is like it to in some ways A'LAD'IN A lad in a cave his task is very similar to Theseus to go into hell just like chirst or unmuseum maze Ship_of_Theseus Caerleon wales King Arthur or King Theseus ??. Augustus mausoleum Constantine's Sword www.britannica.com/event/Pax-Romana

@allmightlionthunder5515 Жыл бұрын

@brendananderson9102 5 ай бұрын

How can you leave the body and hope to be closer to God when the Kingdom of God is within you? The opposite idea is what evildoers have people believe so that they may confuse them and have their spirits leave their vessel so that something else may enter in. Spiritual nourishment is all you need and communing with the inner spirit, which the silver cord (i.e. umbilical cord for the spirit) is attached to, like the umbilical cord is the cord to worldly life. Btw other new age groups (not sure if I can mention them without getting this comment removed) teach people that their spirit is tied to an outer spirit like a baby to the placenta. But they have it wrong (on purpose), that outer spirit doesn't exist, it's just the inner spirit being pushed out of the vessel.

@brendananderson9102 5 ай бұрын

@isaacmalown7003 8 ай бұрын

Why would one think that distortion of memory (or evenmore so the distortion of reality by our personal filter) is only applied to dates and battles but not to a person, is beyond me.

@IPAsAndSunshine 8 ай бұрын

Unlike what he thought, I don’t think the man the myths of Jesus were ever about or even the fictional character made in the Bible, it never seemed to be on his mind to be anyone’s hero. The guy clearly told everyone he was a path, a door, a gate, not a source; not a hero. He never claimed to be great, he was in fact a rebel no matter how you want to see it, rebellion is a huge part of his story for good reason, because he was rebellious. Jesus used rebellion as a point of exposing truth, Jesus obsessed about truth and being in a constant state of it. None of this indicates a hero. He never saved someone from peril; tho he did help many. The most heroic thing I can recall Jesus doing was the recuse on the Sea of Galilee. However this is also all allegorical and symbolic. So it’s not literal and it’s a way of talking about life; rocky waters; and learning how to navigate them instead of bobbing on the up and down waves; you simply walk over them. The man was not a hero, he was not a savior; he was a wise man with tools he wanted to share with people that have a obsession with believing their own stories to a point t they will kill their own children and sacrifice people looking out for them. Nothing has changed. Meaning his work as a hero would have been in vane.

@DeadEndFrog Жыл бұрын

One persons will to power, changed by others to fit their own will to power? Isn't that Nietzschian too? Nietzsche can never seem to agree withhimself. He wants ideals and power to be one. Or does he simply care about those who 'create' their own will to power, rather then using others, and their will to fit themselves? That too can be seen as idealistic. Categorize people into weak and strong, and you won't understand what to call the weak when they win. Physical power is not power itself. And we see this play out today when people talk about 'survival of the strongest' rather then the 'fittest'. Reality is diffrent from ideals im afraid.

@Stefanio64 9 ай бұрын

Great point! The nazis would fit into the first category of people changing his Will to power in order to fit into their own world view (Will to power). A Will to power In unity. Whilst Nietzsche had almost no disciples or followers during his own lifetime. Was he a failure according to his own philosophy?

@DeadEndFrog 9 ай бұрын

@@Stefanio64 In regards to failure. It feels like i say this in every video about nietzsche, but i would love to hear what the early nietzsche would think about later nietzsche.

@Stefanio64 9 ай бұрын

By fittest we could add most cunning :)

@DeadEndFrog 9 ай бұрын

@@Stefanio64 indeed, i would even say that its often up to chance aswell, where chance is simply anything one doesn't control, or couldn't have guessed would happen.

@SupermonkeyPlaysMC Жыл бұрын

I love taking the heroes journey view when thinking about biblical concepts, for me personally, it really helped with the initial separation of what I was initially thought as a Baptist. I’m far beyond at this point, but I love to think about the specifics related to how we put our own human mystical spent on specific aspects of the Bible, thinking about everything that took place around the silk roads era it just fascinates me because I know I’ll never know for sure, and that’s what keeps me going. Pre watch thoughts if anything 0:06

@PinkOrangeOrangePink Жыл бұрын

Whats the super monkey doing here?

@ASTR0TALKSPHILOSOPHY 8 ай бұрын

Wrong video. Continue on your bloons tower defense monkey game.

@Iamcalculus08 Жыл бұрын

It is a very interesting point of view. Sounds like it from a theorist who respects Jesus both as man, and savior, without insulting the fact that he was human. %100 man, and %100 God.

@Mantus86 7 ай бұрын

Great video

@seroujmamoulian1305 9 ай бұрын

He's not a hero, he is the Messiah.

@user-iq7cp1jt6i 8 ай бұрын

The word of Jesus will never pass away Matthew 24:35, Neitzche's have only been for around 200 years and will pass away.

@_loss_ 2 күн бұрын

Trust me, It'll pass away with time.

@chalicotheremapping8921 9 ай бұрын

Nietzsche sounds a lot like a gnostic

@leonardoschettino3162 10 ай бұрын

who would thought the guy who states that god is dead is the one who better sold me to the idea of christ until now

@francinocasieri5073 Жыл бұрын

I feel like nietzsche is just a edge lord

@mozartwolfgang4656 Жыл бұрын

Youre a nothing.

@116stuart 8 ай бұрын

It's quite convenient for Nietzsche to just deny the historicity of the Bible in order to start tearing down Jesus. Whilst I can confidently say that Nietzsche was a man of great intellect far more than me, I wholeheartedly disagree with this watered down version of Jesus who seems to be delusional and in denial of just how wicked man is, when simply whole point of Jesus dying on the cross was a because man is utterly wicked & unable to be fully Holy/Good, we might be mostly good but even in our good deeds we tend to have evil intentions & thus Jesus took upon Himself the sin & judgement that was rightfully ours & we then are credited with a righteousness that was rightfully His. This however is not much of a big deal if we were to reduce Jesus to a mere good leader who said nice things & was wrongfully charged for some crimes, He was God & perfect in all His ways and in no way was He ambushed by willfully gave up His life to suffer at the hands of His own creations, it's really an insult to compare Him with Napoleon or any human for that matter.

@littlesometin Жыл бұрын

19:15 name of the painting please?

@Itsuser_1234 Жыл бұрын

It’s called es over? Like who hell was this? You can tell from his hang gesture.

@baronghede2365 11 ай бұрын

I am a practitioner of vodoun and have great respect for all Religions, Blessed Be.

@nowhereman6019 Жыл бұрын

This video actually really sells Jesus for me.

@ImMichaelMullins 8 ай бұрын

Then you didn't have true faith to begin with my brother.

@nowhereman6019 8 ай бұрын

@@ImMichaelMullins yeah, I'm not a Christian. I meant it sold me Jesus as a person and philosopher.

@Xthfollow Жыл бұрын

Nietzsche invented his own Jesus 🙃😂

@tcrijwanachoudhury Жыл бұрын

Everyone does

@Xthfollow Жыл бұрын

@@tcrijwanachoudhury hi everyone

@Doctor_Fate5 Ай бұрын

@@tcrijwanachoudhury Jesus is universal ♾️

@DenianArcoleo Жыл бұрын

The true teaching ascribed to Jesus in this talk sounds to me almost exactly like the non-duality teaching of someone like Rupert Spira.

@federicopettinicchio 9 ай бұрын

Oh, it's nice to find someone who agrees with me, way to go Nietzsche. We have very different opinions, but at least we agree on the facts and on the approach.

@diollinebranderson6553 9 ай бұрын

How touching. Two idiots finding each other

@wood2640 9 ай бұрын

Nietzche was crazy. Literally. Dont take his word serious

@FiXCrypto 8 ай бұрын

Jesus is KING!! Every knee will bow and every tounge will confess

@sircole4549 8 ай бұрын

Only christian knee

@alspezial2747 8 ай бұрын

@sircole4549 Japanese Muslims Karate/Judo practitioners Some women during bjs There are probably more, but those are the ones i know of

@proto566 7 ай бұрын

I Hope Not. What a dull world.

@alexxx4434 Жыл бұрын

One can argue that Jesus was in a conflict, a battle for human soul. He just fought by different means. And N. is just shortsighted.

@chesneytube1 9 ай бұрын

I never got the 'only son of god' bit. If he's god's only child then whose children are the rest of us supposed to be? I heard once that it was a mistranslation and he actually said 'A son of god'. That reminds me of Life of Bryan. Jesus says "I'm a child of god" and someone turns around to the crowd and yells "He says he's the only son of God!"

@endygonewild2899 9 ай бұрын

Completely false, Jesus saw himself as THE Son of God. He claimed to be the divine son of man.

@chesneytube1 9 ай бұрын

@@endygonewild2899 yeah well that’s obviously not true is it. We’re all the children of god. If he’s the only son of god whose children are the rest of us? Jesus spoke a lot of sense so it doesn’t add up to me that he’s say something so radically wrong. What makes a lot more sense is that the church construed it so that Jesus is the ONLY son of god so that they have a monopoly on spiritual salvation. When you look into the older translations from Hebrew they say radically different things to what people today believe they do. Christianity as a modern religion has been fashioned to the convenience of power, not the other way around.

@endygonewild2899 9 ай бұрын

@@chesneytube1 your ideas about Christianity are completely false. First off, the New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew, second, the actual original Christianity saw Jesus as God incarnate, and it was actually deviations from that that agree with you.

@chesneytube1 9 ай бұрын

@@endygonewild2899 I know some of the original versions are Greek but remember the bible is many books compiled into one, not a single book. Some of the original translations are in Hebrew such as the book of revelations.

@PeterM8987 Жыл бұрын

Not one psychologist nor pyschiatrist would claim examining the psychological state of a person whom they haven't met, including dead ones, is legitimate. Why does Nietzsche get a free pass?

@poTato_777 9 ай бұрын

Nietzsche is not a psychologist or a psychiatrist

@czechmeoutbabe1997 8 ай бұрын

I would argue that Nietzsche is using the term very loosely, given that Psychology had been incredibly recently invented in his age. What he’s interested in is Jesus’ mindset, not history, miraculous powers or ontological relationship with God, which make it a somewhat psychological exploration.

@SmugAmerican 8 ай бұрын

That's actually not true. There have been plenty of studies to contemplate for example whether famous dead people were autistic, had personality disorders, or other mental ailments, just based on what we know about them. Surely you've read the phrase " Psychologists from the University of whatever believe whoever was likely thus, because of their etc. Etc"

@arcade5765 Жыл бұрын

nice. much prefer the longer videos

@WeltgeistYT Жыл бұрын

More to come!

@theunclejesusshow8260 Жыл бұрын

You can always slow the speed down in settings 🤣

@macavelli8905 Жыл бұрын

Good argument point very difficult to argue against especially using the bible as evidence against the points introduced.

@Eat_Win 8 ай бұрын

Very interesting, Nietzsche made a lot of assumptions and is very skeptical of the mythical/spiritual side of Jesus. Although I as a Christian do not agree with him, I understand his decision to reject chrisianity to admire Jesus himself as a person. He had a very unique and insightful look at things, which you painted very clear in this video

@gptgod Жыл бұрын

"And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments." -Luke 23:24 I always pray for this dark corner of KZfaq, you people who search for eloquent psychological or philosophical explanations for the solemnity and meaninglessness within you. Christ is the narrow path and few find it. Please dont die blind guys. Instead of strawmanning Christianity, search the depths of its truths earnestly for once.

@TheMachiavellians Жыл бұрын

This is a good analysis of Nietzsche's views of Jesus as a separate figure from Christ the mythological creation of the first Christian community. I am currently making a video about Nietzsche's use of the term "Antichrist" and how it relates to his opposition to "Christ" and traditional atheisms. It would be a good counterpart to this video.

@allmightlionthunder5515 Жыл бұрын

Anti hero , Anti Christ someone like him but not him lol or someone who doesn't act like him but looks like him lol The Stone of Scone (scorn) also known as the Stone of Destiny is the stone of Theseus-Jesus-Ephesus why are you showing fake images of Herod as Theseus Theseus was the mythical king and founder-hero of Athens. seems not to be a myth lol Ephesus is a place in today turkey HERO of Cripples, Bastards & Broken Things Orphans and Ex slaves unmuseum maze Ship_of_Theseus Caerleon wales King Arthur or King Theseus ??. Augustus mausoleum Constantine's Sword

@Plsfindmychanel 9 ай бұрын

Christ is not mythological creation, your thinking is very sinful

@SmugAmerican 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, even the bible states we humans are useless sinners and that we need Jesus to go to heaven. Because we're trash.

@maxavail 6 ай бұрын

Matthew 22:29 "“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God." Nietzsche was a prisoner of this world. He thought heroism was to conquer the other, as Napoleon did, not conquer oneself, as Jesus did. In fact Jesus is the ultimate hero, the God who sheds His own divinity, taking the appearance of a suffering servant and in this act of serving all, becomes exalted above all. Jesus never gave up on His expectations to be worshipped, He just gave us a very, very good reason to do so in love.

@xavierowen7144 5 ай бұрын

The negative aspect of religions is their inability to openly admit the allegorical nature of their beliefs, leading them to mask it.

@Aivottaja 8 ай бұрын

God is dead. -Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead. -God

@user-ib9ky2jo9h Жыл бұрын

amen

@martymcflywilliams5369 3 ай бұрын

Did Nietzsche read Isaiah 53?

@MsForeverFluffy Ай бұрын

Well, he did study theology so I m guessing the answear is yes

@Ry-bo9hi 4 ай бұрын

"muh Jesus neutral af" describing the dude who was sent to combat hell itself

@Doctor_Fate5 Ай бұрын

What

@unicronprimus7450 9 ай бұрын

Seems like Nietzsche has made Christianity like Buddhism. All philosophy, no divinity and/or theology.

@Stophatingalready 9 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree Jesus Is not an hero… He is God.

@timothylamattina3697 3 ай бұрын

Given the fact he never existed, it's like arguing why superman wasn't a super hero.

@Doctor_Fate5 Ай бұрын

You mean Nietzsche

@timothylamattina3697 27 күн бұрын

@@Doctor_Fate5 There is absolutely zero historical proof that jesus ever existed, not as a prophet, not as a carpenter, not as a martyr, not as the son of god. Christianity was the original psy-op, and confirmation for the powers that be, that the sky's the limit, when it comes to controlling the masses.

@leaderofthebunch-deadbeat7716 8 ай бұрын

I do find the comments that if all we had on the history of Napoleon was the testaments of four people who knew him writing decades after the fact then what they wrote would be full of exaggerations and highly mythological, so therefore they should not be taken at face, value to be quite ironic. Jean-Baptiste Pérès wrote a satirical paper in 1827 making the argument that Napoleon was not a historical figure and that his story was heavily Mythologized to fit the archetype of a solar deity, particularly Apollo. Pérès presents an overly rationalistic interpretation of the analogies and etymologies of elements in the popular understanding of Napoleon's life in order to show how, just as the Scriptures or other religious texts could be argued to be mythical, so could Napoleon's life. For example, the family name Bona parte ("good part") could be seen as coming from a dualistic view of the good or light as one extreme, with mala parte ("bad part") being the opposite, darkness or hell. There's also the fact that he was militarily successful in the South but failed in the North, like how the sun is less bright in the North than the South. The location of Napoleon's birthplace, Corsica, in relation to France, corresponds to that of Delos, which is the mythical place of Apollo's birth, in relation to Greece. Napoleon's mother's name was Letizia. The mother of Apollo was named Leto. Moreover, the name Letizia comes from the Latin word for joy, "and does not the dawn's light spread joy in nature when it opens the portals of the East to the sun?" (Sonnenfeld p 33). The three sisters of Napoleon could be seen as corresponding to the Three Graces of the court of Apollo. Napoleon's four brothers could be understood as the four seasons. Just as three of the seasons are kings (spring rules the flowers, summer the harvest, and autumn the fruit) dependent on the power of the sun, three of Napoleon's brothers reigned only thanks to his power. There's a lot more but I think you get the point. The truth is reality is often stranger than fiction. So no, I don't find Nietzsche's argument that the Four Evangelists added elements and mythologized the story to better convince people that he fulfilled all of the prophecies of the Old Testament and was truly the prophesized messiah sent to redeem the world to be all that convincing. I think I'll stick to Thomas Aquinas