Why Kings Island is Removing Vortex - Our Theories!

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4 жыл бұрын

Kings Island just announced the removal of one of their most iconic roller coasters Vortex will be closing forever at the end of October, devastating fans of this 33-year-old Arrow looper. The announcement seemed to have come out of nowhere, so in this video, we'll be dissecting exactly what is going on, and discuss our best theories for why exactly Vortex is closing!
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@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Minor correction, the ride opened in 1987 instead of 1984. My apologies!
@coastercoverage26
@coastercoverage26 4 жыл бұрын
Hey it's on it's way out heading to king island next season and was looking forward to riding it.
@ryancurley2351
@ryancurley2351 4 жыл бұрын
1984 has a few arrow loopers Steamin Demon at Six Flags Great Escape was built in ‘84 is so painful, and if you’ve ever ridden it, you’d know it’s coaster parody gold.
@ulosttomedesigns518
@ulosttomedesigns518 4 жыл бұрын
The issue is that this now leaves a big hole in a very populated area of the park. It might even hurt beast ridership, because the beast is now out even farther away from anything worth doing.
@Fury325Fan
@Fury325Fan 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a TREX could spark!
@stheteller7470
@stheteller7470 4 жыл бұрын
@Josiah_is Cool I want the first rmc t rex.
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 4 жыл бұрын
Kings Island: Removes Son of Beast Kings Island: Removes Firehawk Kings Island: Removes Vortex Invertigo: *Sweats nervously*
@Lecci520
@Lecci520 4 жыл бұрын
As long as the Beast stays I could care less about the rest.
@zachcoastercrazy4032
@zachcoastercrazy4032 4 жыл бұрын
Adventure express: *panics quietly*
@meganveite5678
@meganveite5678 4 жыл бұрын
Leci I don’t think they will since that’s their most iconic coaster.
@lilychancey4446
@lilychancey4446 4 жыл бұрын
Zach Coaster crazy you don’t need to worry about the family rides
@marumicore
@marumicore 4 жыл бұрын
King cobra?!
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
The ride that was on all of my physics textbooks.
@chiefbeef6251
@chiefbeef6251 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a math textbook with a picture of Desperadon't at the Buffalo Bills hotel/casino
@bariton3779
@bariton3779 4 жыл бұрын
one of my textbooks had diamondstack on it
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
mountaineers79 I sadly did not get to ride Mantis. I have rode Rougarou and I thought it was meh
@artnbookscentral8633
@artnbookscentral8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@isaacarthur4834 They should have kept the stand-up because A, I didn't get to ride it, B, Mantis was one of the few stand-ups, and C, Cedar Point is known for having basically every kind of coaster (besides a flyer) but removing Mantis left a hole.
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
Art N' Books Central Stand ups are outdated and they didn’t have a B&M sit down so I think it was a good decision. It’s just a shame that it’s rough.
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it has much to do with the brakes. I have worked Gemini all summer, in June we were stacking a lot and we have not had to replace any of our brakes and we have only had problems with them twice. I think the problem is in the controls system. All the late 80s arrows got a controls system to run the ride that has proven to be extremely difficult to maintain ever since Arrow went bankrupt. Both Magnum and Iron Dragon had this system and both have been modernized with newer systems. The price of modernizing a coaster on the scale of Vortex is quite expensive and I can see KI not seeing the value in pouring that kind of money into a older ride. Thats just my theory.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
More importantly it's an old ride that's NOT popular. Magnum and Iron Dragon are popular (Iron Dragon more so because it's the only true family coaster at CP since CCMR has a stupid 48" height requirement) so they are worth the money to keep running since people enjoy them. Vortex is not popular so sinking money into a ride no one wants to ride is not worth it
@CoasterStudios
@CoasterStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a possibility! Now that you say that, I wouldn't be surprised if controls were a contributing factor.
@jamesmcmanus1206
@jamesmcmanus1206 4 жыл бұрын
It’s all about return on investment. I don’t think this is any one factor. It’s a combination of the capital needed to keep the ride going versus the benefits of having the coaster at the park. They saw that the costs for maintenance and upkeep of the ride is likely significant enough to warrant its removal. It’s unfortunate for us fans of the ride but this is strictly a business decision. Service life is just a nice way for the park to put it. They could make these rides run forever if they were willing to upfront the capital. “service life” is simply an estimate of when the maintenance needs of the ride will outweigh the benefits of keeping it in operation.
@jdrammer5664
@jdrammer5664 4 жыл бұрын
GP To Enthusiast you shouldn’t be stacking on Gemini with four trains. It means you aren’t hustling fast enough. I remember riding Gemini when it was running 6 trains early 2000’s with no stacking. That was impressive
@CoasterCollege
@CoasterCollege 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdrammer5664 Oh trust me our crew got way better, but back in June we stacked a ton. Also back when we ran 6 trains there were no seatbelts.
@amandanorthern6568
@amandanorthern6568 4 жыл бұрын
I was in high school when vortex was first opened. My high school friend and I bought our own passes and rode it as much as possible we where both 17 and thats what you did in the old days. He died years ago RIP Todd. So today was the last day of the 2019 season. My daughter came home from collage last night just to ride vortex one last time. So this morning we got up early and opened the park on vortex and got the ride picture plus a lot of other pictures. The park was more busy then normal for the last day and vortex was lined up like I have not seen in years. I will miss vortex after all it was there for 32 years. I know it has to happen sooner or later. Like mean streak at cedar point, but dam steel Vengence is my favorite ride. So I hope its replacement is worth it. Thanks.
@mynameis7575
@mynameis7575 4 жыл бұрын
IM gonna miss getting concussions😭
@5rc
@5rc 4 жыл бұрын
Rode it possibly for the last time today (I live 5 mins away may go to the park tomorrow) and a girl behind me said "I almost bit my tongue off." Enough said lol
@andrewpike2398
@andrewpike2398 4 жыл бұрын
It's honestly not that bad I've ridden this for a long time now but it's not nearly as bad as like the son of beast was that was actually painful and hurt riding it
@kaylo2344
@kaylo2344 3 жыл бұрын
@@5rc Yikes I usually got sick after it that was really the only thing that happened to me
@katiebelle5405
@katiebelle5405 3 жыл бұрын
TBH they should have tore it down in 2010~2013 it was so rough I couldn't think of riding again
@swanksta1
@swanksta1 4 жыл бұрын
Kings Island is my home park, Vortex was the first ride I had ever ridden with an inversion. This is the ride that made me love coasters. I understand park development and I am sad to see it go. I will be making sure to take my final rides this month.
@therealZThaDon
@therealZThaDon 4 жыл бұрын
True
@fxjrulpzxi
@fxjrulpzxi 4 жыл бұрын
Mine too, I was so proud when I got off and immediately got in line to do it again! It will be missed. Bitter sweet, as an adult... phew... started skipping over it... painful
@kitkatkatie7439
@kitkatkatie7439 4 жыл бұрын
SAME this was my first major coaster i rided. first loop. first drop that big. my friend forced me on it without even seeing the coaster and i road it twice!! sad to see it go :/
@NadaPJD
@NadaPJD 4 жыл бұрын
Did you enjoy your small concussion?
@jacobjackson8646
@jacobjackson8646 3 жыл бұрын
Same😢
@triston....1751
@triston....1751 4 жыл бұрын
Another grave for Banshee's queue 😂
@geoffseiter2012
@geoffseiter2012 4 жыл бұрын
If you're a local that grew up riding Vortex on a regular basis, i'd guess 90% of us are happy that Vortex is leaving. It hurts after riding these days.
@fxjrulpzxi
@fxjrulpzxi 4 жыл бұрын
Geoff Seiter bitter sweet
@campee7674
@campee7674 4 жыл бұрын
Nahhhh, it’s still one of my favorite coasters. Hate to see it go
@Musickt196
@Musickt196 4 жыл бұрын
I rode it it 2004 or 2005 and loved it. Then I rode it in 2017 and it was horrible-so rough and jerky and gave me a headache. Good riddance lol
@JJJJ-he8bz
@JJJJ-he8bz 4 жыл бұрын
It was horrible for me as an adult liked it as a kid. I’m shocked how good viper is magic mountain really takes care of it
@cwill2127
@cwill2127 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I’m sad it’s gone. Haven’t ridden it since I was a kid, but I don’t remember it being rough. Only one I remember being rough was beast/ son of beast. Then again, kids are a lot more elastic so I probably just didn’t notice haha
@perryfamilyfilms
@perryfamilyfilms 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a replacement coaster that follows the same color scheme; That deep blue / orange track design is beautiful.
@perryfamilyfilms
@perryfamilyfilms 3 жыл бұрын
@@harorider96 It was such a beautiful coaster aesthetically. It was also a great rite of passage coaster... if you were a scared first time coaster rider and could get through the Vortex, you were good to go with anything else. That is until the first generation seats on "Flight of Fear" (anyone remember those foam pillows that felt like boxing gloves?) :-)
@GeneralButtNaked69
@GeneralButtNaked69 4 жыл бұрын
Loch Ness monster is 41 years old and isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, they just updated the ride and got it two new trains.
@pharaohflame315
@pharaohflame315 4 жыл бұрын
And its an landmark ACE icon. No other coaster in the world has interlocking loops and taking it down would just....ruin that area of the park.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
@@pharaohflame315 Plus it still gets a good amount of riders Vortex doesn't
@moonfoot1
@moonfoot1 4 жыл бұрын
@@pharaohflame315 any landmarked coaster would be taken down
@pharaohflame315
@pharaohflame315 4 жыл бұрын
@@moonfoot1 Lochness will never be taken down. And if they did, it would kill that scenic area of Scotland.
@cam3033
@cam3033 4 жыл бұрын
I still ride every time I go to Busch
@ulosttomedesigns518
@ulosttomedesigns518 4 жыл бұрын
I have a solution to the quarterly earnings issue: Sell Michigan's Adventure
@overlookers
@overlookers 4 жыл бұрын
Michigan's Adventure is a phantom limb at this point. They might as well.
@artnbookscentral8633
@artnbookscentral8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilikerollercoasters4757 If Michigan's Adventure can't get vortex because Cedar Fair will decide to scrap Vortex because they still have to pay for it so moving it won't make any difference in finances.
@morerandomrainbows2794
@morerandomrainbows2794 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Please! Michigan’s Advnture was doing so well before Cedar Fair came along. It’s my home park, and I want it to thrive.
@bjtgaming
@bjtgaming 4 жыл бұрын
you are not going to believe this but Michigan's Adventure is actually a pretty profitable part for Cedar Fair to own..
@StamfordBridge
@StamfordBridge 4 жыл бұрын
bjtgaming Was just going to say the same thing. That park that never gets anything new actually makes a steady profit.
@kkdarling9018
@kkdarling9018 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex will forever be missed... 😞 I rode it for the last time yesterday.
@EdenEchoFilms
@EdenEchoFilms 4 жыл бұрын
It's OBVIOUSLY where they're building the midcourse for Falcon's Flight.
@finesse5820
@finesse5820 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@obvious2886
@obvious2886 4 жыл бұрын
Lololol
@blueforlife7891
@blueforlife7891 4 жыл бұрын
They are making Orion.
@patrickwagner98
@patrickwagner98 4 жыл бұрын
Kings Dominion has been weeding out roller coasters over the last decade: Shockwave, Hurler (although replaced in the same process), and Volcano. I fully expect Anaconda to be next.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
I think Anaconda will go after Volcanos replacement comes in
@patrickwagner98
@patrickwagner98 4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv of all the parks in the region I live (Baltimore/DC), I feel like KD has had more coasters closed than any other in my lifetime. I haven't done any research to back that up, but the list seems long: King Kobra, Hypersonic XLC, Hurler, Shockwave, and Volcano. I don't think Anaconda is long in the tooth, but I also wonder about Avalanche, to be honest.
@TheRealSweedie
@TheRealSweedie 4 жыл бұрын
Let's HOPE Anaconda is next. Talk about crappy ride taking up a prime spot in the park
@WicketEngineering
@WicketEngineering 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickwagner98 I wouldn't care if avalanche was removed. It has terrible capacity. I want Anaconda to stay because of it being a 'classic arrow'.
@WicketEngineering
@WicketEngineering 4 жыл бұрын
@warallthetime I like arrows tho :'( Welp on the bright side at least you have Mind Eraser XD
@natekenny7106
@natekenny7106 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Vortex was down for almost 2 weeks in 2017 because the chain lift snapped and it took forever to get a part to fix it apparently.
@perryfamilyfilms
@perryfamilyfilms 4 жыл бұрын
The Vortex is such a beautiful coaster aesthetically. It is a rough ride, but I'll be sad to see it go. That area of the park where you can sit and enjoy watching the "batwing" inversions up close is my favorite area of the park. I remember sitting there as a kid in the 90's and having one of my first existential moments; there was something almost meditative about that area of the park. Now they have a bunch of music and games creeping into that area so it isn't as tranquil, but at one time that little stretch before you make your way to the Beast was beautiful and calming.
@fxjrulpzxi
@fxjrulpzxi 4 жыл бұрын
Marcus you put it into words so beautifully! I completely agree, I love that little path!!!!
@garminkid
@garminkid 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a solution: install magnetic brakes so the friction brakes don’t have to brake as hard. Magnetic brakes are also more comfortable and more reliable.
@sharkheadism
@sharkheadism 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not enough room under the chassis to do so even if cost wasn't a factor.
@electric7487
@electric7487 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharkheadism There is more than enough room.
@sharkheadism
@sharkheadism 4 жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 Do you have a diagram or anything?
@electric7487
@electric7487 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharkheadism You could fit two magnets where the two sliding pieces of the brakes are. Make sure they are in opposite orientations though. (One magnet has north at thebfront, and the other has south at the front)
@sharkheadism
@sharkheadism 4 жыл бұрын
@@electric7487 I meant fit the mag brake fin to the chassis of the train
@pieterlootsma8706
@pieterlootsma8706 4 жыл бұрын
It's been sad to see all of the Arrow custom loopers being taken down. Although they may not be the greatest, they still provide a fairly unique ride experience.
@brycetube4
@brycetube4 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has worked on the vortex as a ride op I definitely think your speculation is very plausible.
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 жыл бұрын
"The tweet was greatly exaggerated about how our rumors were greatly exaggerated" lmbo
@bigfatrockstar4991
@bigfatrockstar4991 4 жыл бұрын
In the Heights reference?
@zacg_
@zacg_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's really sad that Arrow is slowly dying off. I'm mean, they're already dead. But their work is dying off. I get that SFMM would be better served by removing Viper at some point but I'm getting to the point where I want them to keep it anyway. If BGW ever replaces Lochness Monster then the coaster community will go into morning. At least Tennessee Tornado will be around for a while and there are other Arrows besides the loopers that will hopefully remain. I hope that there will always been a fan base that will prevent the closure of historic rides like Matterhorn, Runaway Mine Train, Magnum XL 200 and of course X2.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
Matterhorn, Lochness, and Magnum are historic coasters and their parks care alot about them. Disney refurbished the Matterhorn between 2012-2015, BGW refurbed Lochness Monsters trains last year, and Magnum got a new control panel a few years ago and got a new lighting package in the third tunnel this year. Simply put I don't see any of these three leaving anytime soon if at all.
@newclothes8165
@newclothes8165 4 жыл бұрын
"mourning'
@mhtube01
@mhtube01 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there were smaller parks out there that would make Cedar Fair on offer on Vortex so they could dismantle it and move it to their own park. It would be like breathing life new into an aging coaster like Vortex, even if it doesn't make financial sense to some people. I think if they did something like that though, it would be the perfect opportunity to refurbish the coaster and upgrade some of the aging controls and such that needed it. I'm sure it would gain popularity with all of that done and a new home. Nessie is one of my favorite Arrow loopers and I hope BGW never gets rid of it. That's probably one of the smoothest, most popular coasters the company ever built and I don't see it leaving any time soon. I know they've done work to it the past few years. I just rode Vortex this past June though and found it to be an enjoyable ride, a lot smoother than I was expecting actually so I'm sad to see it go.
@TheRealSweedie
@TheRealSweedie 4 жыл бұрын
Is it though?? I'm personally ecstatic to see these old clunkers go. They're rough to a point where it physically hurts to ride them, they're not forceful, and they're not very impressive compared to today's modern coasters. I get that people are nostalgic about their coasters, but man... these are just bad.
@WicketEngineering
@WicketEngineering 4 жыл бұрын
OMG yesss!
@cheryllane9528
@cheryllane9528 4 ай бұрын
I’m really late to the party here but I just found your channel. I’m from Cincinnati and worked at Kings Island on Vortex for a summer in 1992. It was such a great time. I moved to south west Florida in 2000 but each time I went back to visit family I’d always go to Kings Island and ride Vortex. Such great memories!!!!!
@gregg5958
@gregg5958 4 жыл бұрын
You want to see stress on brakes and ride operators? I can’t think of anything more stressful than two train operation on the original Corkscrew at Knott’s Berry Farm. They tried to avoid stacking trains whenever possible as that led to not only the guest comfort and wear and tear problem you mentioned, but also because they would have to run out and physically push the train into the station or else the other train that they just dispatched would set up on the lift. And back then, the lift would overheat and didn’t always restart. That wasn’t the only stressful part though. It was stressful just unlocking the OTSRs as it was done by pedal on each car and one ride op would have their foot stuck out pushing them as the train went by. It was still going pretty fast! Always seemed pretty scary and risky to me.
@ginger06727
@ginger06727 4 жыл бұрын
I literally cried this Saturday. I'M SO SAD!!!
@endseeker7198
@endseeker7198 4 жыл бұрын
Earlier this year the trains got stuck and on opening night of Halloween haunt, vortex broke down. Idk why but I was on the first train,out of the station lol. I'll miss vortex
@whitneyg9150
@whitneyg9150 4 жыл бұрын
last year when I went to haunt (and my first visit back to the park since Cedar Fair bought it), Vortex closed down because a raccoon managed to climb up into the station and they had to remove it lol.
@endseeker7198
@endseeker7198 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitneyg9150 I remember one time I was in line for White Water canyon (thier raft ride) ane they had to shut it down because deer had gotten into the water. They just wanted to ride to
@miagarcia3876
@miagarcia3876 4 жыл бұрын
Oh i went to the Kingsland haunt
@miagarcia3876
@miagarcia3876 4 жыл бұрын
And wen i rode it it didn't brake down
@mouse5094
@mouse5094 4 жыл бұрын
Once I witnessed Vortex being evacuated on the lift hill because a storm was approaching, and I ended up going on it later that day with no line at all. Fun memories lol
@j.van.5335
@j.van.5335 4 жыл бұрын
I took my daughter to kings island for the first time this year. She loved the diamondback and mystic timbers but only rode the vortex once. I have ridden the vortex nearly as much as the beast due to their locations, and I am glad I took her to see it but I will not miss the bumpy ride.
@VonFisch1
@VonFisch1 4 жыл бұрын
We would go to Kings Island every year and Vortex was very painful, someone was always a victim every year, to which they couldn't ride anything else the rest of the day. So we all just stopped riding it. This was 20 years ago, when it wasn't that old. I don't know what the numbers were, but since then, it never seemed to have much of a line.
@altoidsours
@altoidsours 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this ride. It was my first upside down roller coaster. I was so nervous, but my dad went on it with me and he told me I would have a lot of fun - and I did! It was such a great ride. There was always a long line for it back in the day. But then it just got to be too rough. The last time I rode it was in 2015 and it was just too painful for me, I knew that would be the last time I went on it. I might have changed my mind and gone on it one last time before it was taken down if I had known this was its last year, but unfortunately I can't make it back to Kings Island this year. So goodbye old friend, I'll always have wonderful memories of you.
@kbaker9753
@kbaker9753 4 жыл бұрын
kings island is my home park so i am devastated to see it go :( but i do hope something brilliant replaces it. Something great should replace it as vortex was great in itself. I hear people talk about how this is one of the most painful rides they've ever ridden but i've rode Vortex 10 plus times and have never been hurt by it. I find the racers and Invertigo much more painful than Vortex. I would love to see a big wing coaster go in it's place and interacts with the woods. But, for some reason my gut says we will end up seeing a dive coaster because it's literally the perfect viewing area/gp attraction spot to view a coaster that does something dramatic. I plan on going to Kings Island to get a few more rides on Vortex before I have to say farewell for good. Vortex was my first looping coaster so it does really pain me to see it go. Kings Island will never be the same without it.
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
@maxs6816
@maxs6816 3 жыл бұрын
As a local who has gone to KI all my life,, I personally am way more sad that firehawk is gone than the headache causing vortex. It used to be better but as the years went on it just got so shaky, hitting your head against the over shoulder restraints made me get the worst headaches and I know I'm not alone on this opinion at all
@matthewtuel2747
@matthewtuel2747 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex was my first "big" looping coaster. I rode it immediately after King Cobra (my first looper), and it got me hooked on coasters way back in 1997. It will be missed.
@ajtopia
@ajtopia 4 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks we *NEED* to get arrow back in business somehow.
@Valzentia
@Valzentia 4 жыл бұрын
+The Bearded Weirdo coaster freak. actually, Alan Schilke is still alive. but he's better off where he is right now sooooo
@electric7487
@electric7487 4 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Vekoma*
@sgtmyers88
@sgtmyers88 4 жыл бұрын
Arrow lives on in Vekoma, S&S, and RMC
@beardedswordsman2901
@beardedswordsman2901 4 жыл бұрын
S&S owns arrows affairs so anyone could probably buy the plans from them and turnaround and get vekoma, intamin etc to build past rides.
@optimusrob6880
@optimusrob6880 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoswarePictures cci is now GCI and Gravity Group
@danielflanagan3692
@danielflanagan3692 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons is the ride is so rough, it is one of the most painful coasters I have ridden. The tracks could be needing maintenance that would not be cost effective.
@SamshireCat
@SamshireCat 4 жыл бұрын
I was about the say. In the recent years, i've heard too many negative things about this ride. A lot of people are sad, but also many are glad. This ride literally caused my mom to stop riding coasters the rest of the day. The wooden ones didn't even hurt her she claims, but this ride hurt her so bad, she had to stop riding coasters and my mom LOVES coasters and will ride them all day long, so you know its bad when she has to stop. She says when this ride first opened, it was way more smooth, but over the years, it just has worn out.
@chainliftthrills8109
@chainliftthrills8109 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex was my first major coaster so a little sad, but tbh the ride gives me a concussion
@michaelpryor78
@michaelpryor78 4 жыл бұрын
I get the nostalgia component, but the thing had become nothing but painful inversions.
@nevadaleone5942
@nevadaleone5942 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! It left me bruised and so sore this summer!!
@JDBlack-gf9ok
@JDBlack-gf9ok 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody from Ohio goes anywhere near Vortex. Last time I rode it I had a headache for the rest of the day.
@jayskestrel8130
@jayskestrel8130 4 жыл бұрын
It slammed my jaw on the hard restraints and bruised my entire jawline and cheek. They also had seat belts which uh.... I was in the back and a seat belt came undone mid ride, thank god for fail safes.
@jacobjackson8646
@jacobjackson8646 3 жыл бұрын
So close the beast?????
@a.j.cappuccio2859
@a.j.cappuccio2859 4 жыл бұрын
Canada's Wonderland be like " you can take away few our coasters.....please!"
@shane952
@shane952 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Its rough having CW as your home park. There is like 3-4 good rides there.
@overlookers
@overlookers 4 жыл бұрын
Trash Time Warp for a Railblazer clone
@artnbookscentral8633
@artnbookscentral8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@overlookers How about a custom
@a.j.cappuccio2859
@a.j.cappuccio2859 4 жыл бұрын
@@shane952 At least you have a home park. I live in Maine
@SteelRiderCarl
@SteelRiderCarl 4 жыл бұрын
Flight Deck could be improved with better profiling and restraints. Time Warp? I don't know, but it needs something.
@expo1403
@expo1403 4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Cincy when this opened and rode it hundreds of times, you’re absolutely correct about the brakes. The minor left turn after the first big drop could snap you violently, and the position you’d be in before the 2 corkscrews could be uncomfortable, but overall it was a great ride. But that first brake station after the helix was tough, if it brought you to a complete stop it was guaranteed to bring your head off of the headrest
@RainMaker_816
@RainMaker_816 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in KC, The Orient Express was the first ride I ever rode. And i miss the hell out of it. The loading building is still standing and the land it was on is still empty. World's of Fun hasn't had a new coaster in 10 years. They keep adding little kid rides. Since 2000 they've only added 3 coasters. The Patriot, The Boomerang, and Prowler.
@delani655
@delani655 4 жыл бұрын
I can say that a week ago I got to ride my last ride on the Vortex! So sad😥😢I had so many good memories on the ride! 😭😭😭 I’m literally tearing up
@ajward4299
@ajward4299 4 жыл бұрын
First time i rode it: 1989, last time i rode it: 2019. It will be missed.
@BackSeatJunkie
@BackSeatJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving how people are commenting that they were there earlier this summer and Vortex kept breaking down. OF COURSE it magically started "breaking down" this season and then BOOM, near the end of the season they announce that they are removing it. The statement *wag the dog* comes to mind.
@shaynak745
@shaynak745 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this coaster is such eye candy!! I wish I could have ridden it before they closed it down.
@jaredstrickland4532
@jaredstrickland4532 4 жыл бұрын
I know it had a pretty substantial break down three or four weeks ago leaving a train full of people on the lift hill for roughly an hour. This may have played a part in this decision. Parts are getting hard to come by.
@Ginkoman2
@Ginkoman2 4 жыл бұрын
A Mack Xtreme Spinning Coaster would be awesome
@lots_of_bendy_straws
@lots_of_bendy_straws 4 жыл бұрын
Kings island worker here. Vortex is being taken down because all of the parts had been used. Arrow isn’t a manufacturer anymore so they have no more parts to fix it. Vortex is very shaky and people often complain about getting hurt on it
@joshmartin1658
@joshmartin1658 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the stress that the breaks have on the riders, let’s also not forget that the turns bank sharply and cause riders to bang their heads on the restraints. This is also due to the fact that the restraint padding had stiffened over the years due to its age. I’m still going to miss this ride. It was one of the first actual coasters I rode as a kid. It will always have a place in my heart!
@hanniemarie184
@hanniemarie184 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so bummed out. Vortex was down opening day due to weather and I didn’t get the chance to ride it one last time smh
@joshr.6785
@joshr.6785 4 жыл бұрын
My feedback as a season pass holder was that the ride sucked and either needed maintenance or to be removed. And I recommended Invertigo and The Bat as well.
@delani655
@delani655 4 жыл бұрын
Josh R. I personally LOVE Vortex and I think that Invertigo and bat are great to but I think those will be the next ones to go.
@joshr.6785
@joshr.6785 4 жыл бұрын
@@delani655 they are too rough for tall skinny people, harnesses don't fit right. Heck, banshee has issues with me but the ride is smooth enough. Those three are choppy. Bat has sucked since it opened, when you spend more time going up the hill than you do going down that's a problem. When you spend even more time than the hill waiting to enter the station, that's worse.
@delani655
@delani655 4 жыл бұрын
Josh R. I’m short and skinny and I had a hard ride on Vortex... your right tho!!
@gothicdragonwarriorqueen5819
@gothicdragonwarriorqueen5819 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome coaster ride!!!😄❤👍
@Killerqueen2022
@Killerqueen2022 4 жыл бұрын
I waited on line the year Vortex opened, and actually rode it 8 times on one day. It was a fun ride in the day, but theses days, things are so much bigger and faster.
@anthonyalifano2420
@anthonyalifano2420 4 жыл бұрын
RMC Son of The Beast
@minecraftgaming012fgteev2
@minecraftgaming012fgteev2 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Alifano They might REMAKE SON OF BEAST
@anthonyalifano2420
@anthonyalifano2420 4 жыл бұрын
MinecraftGaming012 FGTeeV personal just use the same layout with the loop and RMC it we all want it so
@MinkyBoodle44
@MinkyBoodle44 4 жыл бұрын
Though I know they haven’t worked with them AT ALL recently, I hope Cedar Fair replaces Vortex with a large-scale next-gen Vekoma looper. That could make for a truly worthy sequel.
@victor5953
@victor5953 4 жыл бұрын
in the final few years of vortex i went to kings island frequently and remember that vortex ran 2 trains pretty often because service was slow and many people didn’t fill up the lines to ride it. some of the footage used in this video show that only the first 2 or 3 cars of the train are full of people. i remember getting in line for vortex and always choosing whatever seat i wanted because nobody was in line for it
@justinmaybach6388
@justinmaybach6388 4 жыл бұрын
Another Arrow Dynamics coaster worth mentioning that was left out of your video was Viper at Six Flags Darien Lake. That coaster is 38 years old and is going on 39 years of operation whenever the park opens back up. Back in the early days of the coaster there were three trains running at the same time, which is tough to envision in the present day considering the layout isn't as big but I have seen a video proving otherwise. That coaster held the record the most inversions of any coaster in the world when it opened up until the time Vortex was introduced. With the park adding more coasters over time there was no longer a need to run three trains at the same time, but they still kept up with two train operations for a while longer. Ever since 2016, Viper has only ran one train during the season even though there is another train that is kept in storage, although that has more to do with the theme park and less with the popularity of the ride. However, by running one train at a time I feel like the park may be helping reduce stress on the coaster and allow it to run for several more years. When discussing Vortex, you have to take into account that Kings Island has a better history when it comes to installing and operating coasters. Cedar Fair standards would never allow them to run less than two trains at a time and they probably wanted to maintain all the trains no matter what. Even though Vortex is sentimental to many guests at Kings Island, the park can afford to lose that coaster. Darien Lake only has seven major roller coasters, and some guests rank Viper over Ride of Steel because of all the history that is attached with that coaster. I'd like to believe that if Vortex was at Darien Lake, it would not be closing down. I'm not too disappointed that I never got to ride Vortex since I've been on several Arrow coasters in my life, but I'm sure Kings Island will install a decent attraction in that area. Let's not forget that Vortex stood on the same plot of land as The Bat so whatever gets added in that spot is likely to be memorable.
@yrkadms
@yrkadms 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Kings Island, Whatever you do there, PLEASE restore The Beast's lagoon.
@garminkid
@garminkid 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Vortex, I absolutely loved that ride. It was never that rough and always very intense. I was sad when Dragon Challenge and Volcano closed, but Vortex is hitting me harder, mainly because I've only ridden Volcano once and Dragon Challenge once on each side. Since I live in Ohio, I've ridden Vortex multiple times, and it's never failed to disappoint me. R.I.P. to one of the greatest Arrow coasters to ever be built. You will be missed by many.
@brandonclark887
@brandonclark887 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still disappointed with the replacement for Dragon Challenge. I haven’t been to Universal Studios Orlando in nearly a decade, but from the POVs released by the park... the new roller coaster just seems underwhelming compared to its predecessor.
@garminkid
@garminkid 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonclark887 Hagrid's looks overrated. I don't care what the Potter people say, it doesn't look as good as the Dragons.
@Ravaxr
@Ravaxr 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonclark887 It's a travesty those two were scrapped. They ran so beautifully smooth, and probably could have been sold separately.
@FSXiscool1
@FSXiscool1 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll miss it. Had a trip in like 2016 where the park was almost empty and we rode it 3 times in a row without getting off. It wasn’t the smoothest but definitely a favorite of mine
@jeffc1347
@jeffc1347 4 жыл бұрын
As coasters get old they require more welding and it becomes harder to get parts. I remember Shockwave at SFGAm (I used to work at SFGAm) that thing was ripping itself apart from the moment it started operating. Combined with the fact that they are rough and unpopular I 100% agree with taking Vortex out, I am amazed they kept it around as long as they did.
@Jayhoob1
@Jayhoob1 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon fire at Canada’s wonderland is 38 years old
@marumicore
@marumicore 4 жыл бұрын
“Everyone would rather have a giga.” Me: *UH*
@WapoStudios
@WapoStudios 4 жыл бұрын
There is no way in hell Orion won’t be better than Vortex
@patrickn8355
@patrickn8355 4 жыл бұрын
@@WapoStudios he was referring to Firehawk. It was definitely a fan favorite despite it's mechanical issues and slow dispatch time
@whitneyg9150
@whitneyg9150 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickn8355 idk i rode firehawk once and i was just in pain the entire time. my body didn't like it at all
@patrickn8355
@patrickn8355 4 жыл бұрын
@@whitneyg9150 ya it definitely happens. I always found that the more you just let yourself be completely weightless on the harness it's way better and more fun
@oneandonlysound3453
@oneandonlysound3453 4 жыл бұрын
A giga that looks more like a hyper at that, whom designed it/wanted it designed like that? They already have a hyper, it has way too many basic hyper elements. With two removed classic coasters in exchange for a bigger version of the hyper basically. Glad it's not my home park.
@teddyking6563
@teddyking6563 2 жыл бұрын
I pray something amazing takes it place. Maybe wasnt the greatest coaster but it was so iconic and so beautiful to look at and take pictures in front of.
@marke8323
@marke8323 4 жыл бұрын
I rode Vortex the first year it arrived at Kings Island, I thought it was great!
@patrickn8355
@patrickn8355 4 жыл бұрын
This is a classic that I feel everyone loves to hate. Not great and fairly painful, but still a great credit in my opinion
@katiebelle5405
@katiebelle5405 3 жыл бұрын
By 2010 the ride was so rough I'm surprised it took that long to tear it dowm
@lamby1022
@lamby1022 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex looks huge 💪🏻
@chris-ly7jm
@chris-ly7jm 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex was one of my most anticipated arrow loopers. It setting is without a doubt one of the best to take pictures at, and I’m very sad to see it go. Arrow please give us pieces to fix this thing. #savevortex
@patrickspiers7296
@patrickspiers7296 4 жыл бұрын
Kromaa arrow as a company does not exist anymore it went bankrupt s&s makes some of the parts. Arrow can not fix it since they don’t exist anymore.
@chris-ly7jm
@chris-ly7jm 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Spiers I know arrow went bankrupt, but I mean give us parts to fix it.
@meapia21
@meapia21 4 жыл бұрын
Rode that with my older brother in the early 90’s after he talked me into it. I was about 11, i would guess. It terrified me because of how high off the ground the whole thing is, it just looks scary, also it was unfamiliar because we lived near cedar point and were used to those rides only. It was fun but rough as hell- teeth rattling, head banging rough. I can’t imagine riding it 30 years later as an adult!
@NC5618
@NC5618 4 жыл бұрын
You know what I say, bring in Son of Beast: the Iron Revival (RMC Son of Beast). They've teased in one of their fliers that they are trying to bring it back into operation, maybe this is how they decided to do it.
@mbrown052467
@mbrown052467 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh. Put the Son by the Papa! That'll be a nice touch. :-)
@brianhouser4680
@brianhouser4680 4 жыл бұрын
i could see a new Son of Beast coaster there. That is a great spot right next to the Beast.
@megazap9986
@megazap9986 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says I suspect
@romanhurst7
@romanhurst7 4 жыл бұрын
Megazap I SUSPECT ITS A BIG REASON
@jewels3596
@jewels3596 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex was my first real coaster when I was 13. It was practically new at that time. One time, it started raining pretty bad and most people ran for cover. My sister and I rode Vortex in the rain and there was only a handful of people in line. They let us keep getting on it, ride after ride. We had to have ridden it 10 times or more that day. I'm gonna miss her! 😭😭😭😭😭
@murderdoll9191
@murderdoll9191 4 жыл бұрын
Im glad they are taking it down, that whole ride is pretty rough.
@doggie3602
@doggie3602 4 жыл бұрын
Ikt
@andrew.donnel1y
@andrew.donnel1y 4 жыл бұрын
I literally wanted to ride this so bad because it’s an icon but now I never will and I’m literally devastated
@scorpiodude18
@scorpiodude18 4 жыл бұрын
Carolina Cyclone is still open at Carowinds, it's been open since 1980.
@jenniferhedlund2713
@jenniferhedlund2713 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. And as it being my home park, I will miss it from a sentimental point of view. It was my first "big coaster" and I do remember it opening. But the last few years, it's been a once a season thing: and I have to take 3 excedrin before I ride. I think they need to get a ride like Maverick in that spot in a couple of years.
@AnthonyRose
@AnthonyRose 4 жыл бұрын
I had such a love/hate relationship with this coaster. First looping coaster I ever rode growing up. I would always ride it multiple times during a visit... then I hit a growth spurt and once I broke the 6 foot mark, it became the most uncomfortable ride in the park.
@delani655
@delani655 4 жыл бұрын
They should fix Vortex, new brakes, repaired track, I like the carts but they should add a headrest and better strap things to hold your head in place better, and a fresh new coat of paint. Then it will be all good!!!
@JacobB451
@JacobB451 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to imagine that retrofitting with magnetic brakes would be a much simpler and easier alternative.
@Joelwee1028
@Joelwee1028 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob Bacci Or just run Vortex with 2 trains instead of 3.
@brianhouser4680
@brianhouser4680 4 жыл бұрын
I rode it a lot, in fact Vortex was my first ride and a teenager that i went upside down on. In the past few years it has gotten really rough. Rough to the point to where it makes the Beast seem smooth. I hate to see it go, but i think its time. Kings Island is my home park so i here a lot of rumors. The latest one is they were removing Vortex so they can make an expansion for Orion in the future. Not sure how much i believe it but its whats going around. Great video!
@scottnelson9
@scottnelson9 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just imagine if Arrow we’re still around? As reliable as they were, they would be killing it with current technology.
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Viper at SFMM is a decent ride!
@tiedough7481
@tiedough7481 4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Countdowns I did that with an arrow corkscrew at canobie lake park. The line is nonexistent. Do your riding!
@samb3435
@samb3435 4 жыл бұрын
The roller coaster is very rough, but nothing too bad. Also, have you ridden it after the refurbishment? The brakes are top-tier!!
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
Sam B I only ridden it before and I had really low expectations so it seemed good
@coastercountdowns7736
@coastercountdowns7736 4 жыл бұрын
Ti Dough I love them for that. They can be a bit rough but I love the classics!
@subzerofromny735
@subzerofromny735 4 жыл бұрын
Bring back arrow dynamics. That way you’ll have more parts for Vortex and rebuild Great American Scream Machine
@idkwhatiamdoing1188
@idkwhatiamdoing1188 4 жыл бұрын
Clutch Master good luck
@geomarierock3061
@geomarierock3061 4 жыл бұрын
I was at Kings Island in 2018 and Vortex was rattling like crazy when the train came by several areas. I decide not to ride it but my nephew did and said it was pretty rough. I am not surprised.
@bryanterry1111
@bryanterry1111 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, most likely this was a maintenance issue. Six Flags Great America had a mega looper named Shockwave from 1988-2002. It was only 14 years old when they closed it, which is very short for an arrow looper. They were set on removing whizzer in 2002 but because the public demanded them not to, and Shockwaves wheels were already maintenance nightmares and very expensive. They removed Shockwave instead despite it being so young. They were probably spending too much money or tired of replacing Vortex’s brakes for so long. It’s very unfortunate, but I completely understand why they’d remove it.
@netnerdz5808
@netnerdz5808 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet but my guess is the lack of attendance
@mr.meloetta1939
@mr.meloetta1939 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think a new generation Vekoma like Lech Coaster would fit as Vortex's replacement?
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but don't get your hopes up, CP hasn't worked with Vekoma for awhile. I'd bet more on a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster or a Mack Mega coaster
@bbolin5626
@bbolin5626 4 жыл бұрын
Adam Smith Both tend to not age well.
@maximecretton383
@maximecretton383 4 жыл бұрын
@@bbolin5626 Mack mega coasters not aging well? That's the first time I read that. Blue Fire is still running as smoothly as day one.
@bbolin5626
@bbolin5626 4 жыл бұрын
Maxime Cretton For some reason though, Copperhead Strike was pretty bumpy when I did it.
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind seeing them come to Kings Island. BUT Im not sure how they would fit in the section or park Vortex is in....BUT then again, You have "Action Theater" in Coney Mall, "Back lot Stunt Coaster" in Coney Mall, "Windseeker" in Coney Mall, and "Mystic Timbers" in Rivertown....so in hindsight.... screw it why not!
@jaylahall5712
@jaylahall5712 4 жыл бұрын
i’m so glad i got to ride it before it shut down. My first and last time riding it.
@collinklopfstein3458
@collinklopfstein3458 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see it go but excited to see what takes its place!!! Im guessing dive, multi launch or RMC!
@bigblueamusementproductions
@bigblueamusementproductions 4 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of it, but I definitely will miss seeing it in the park! Coney Mall will be so different without it! But we do have a giga coming so that is definitely exciting! KI is my home park! I can't wait to see what will replace it eventually!
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, I don't particularity like riding Vortex, me personally I just think its to rough and not all that thrilling. BUT it is a very beautiful ride, especially while sitting on the wall or benches and watching it run. Even though Im not a huge fan of it, I'll certainly miss it.
@jwill6008
@jwill6008 4 жыл бұрын
To my other home park KI... may we bid farewell to The Vortex. I remember when I first rode you almost 30 years ago, and Yes, my moms nails are still lodged in my arms. Goodbye old buddy... AND GOOD RIDDANCE!
@tonyjenkins7378
@tonyjenkins7378 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a coaster enthusiast from Ohio and moved to Florida. It's interesting to hear about the behind the scene facts about coasters. I loved Cedar Pointe but regret I won't be able to ride Orion as I live permanently in Florida. Hopefully Busch Gardens will get a giga coaster soon!!! Orlando does have the coaster tower coming which should top all coaster thrills.
@dustanglx50
@dustanglx50 4 жыл бұрын
Vortex is one of the most beautiful coasters in the world, I won't miss riding it, but I will miss looking at it.
@InkWildDog
@InkWildDog 4 жыл бұрын
I rode it 3 times today...
@abcankickmeistersiceman1740
@abcankickmeistersiceman1740 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really sad!
@jacobhendrickson8935
@jacobhendrickson8935 3 жыл бұрын
Vortex was my favorite ride and I had no idea it was gone.
@thefuzzypenguin778
@thefuzzypenguin778 4 жыл бұрын
THE BEAST was an awesome ride back in the day. I moved from Southern Indiana to the very top of Northern Indiana back in April 1984 and never went to Kings Island again. GOOD TIMES! -Diana.
@tiedough7481
@tiedough7481 4 жыл бұрын
Should have gotten a Hopkins
@tylersmith5258
@tylersmith5258 4 жыл бұрын
they could make a new area with compact coasters
@andrewputnam2717
@andrewputnam2717 4 жыл бұрын
That's true
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 4 жыл бұрын
Not without major taraforming, Vortex spot has a decent sized ravine in it
@tylersmith5258
@tylersmith5258 4 жыл бұрын
i never knew there was a ravine
@tylersmith5258
@tylersmith5258 4 жыл бұрын
anyways i just a infinity coaster at my home park
@CaptOrbit
@CaptOrbit 4 жыл бұрын
I worked at Kings Island back in the mid-1990s as a tram driver. Part of my morning spiel was to direct guest attention to the rides visible from the parking lot. "... and if you look just off to the right of the Eiffel Tower you will see The Vortex, an amazing roller coaster that takes you through all sorts of twists and turns. It also takes you upside down a grand total of six, yes six times! As we continue to work our way to the right we see the first lift hill of the world famous Beast peeking up from just above the tree line... Vortex, you beat the hell out of us, but we'll still miss you.
@fxjrulpzxi
@fxjrulpzxi 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Snyder The trams!!!! Omg those were sooo relieving after a long hot day of playing in the sun. You brought back such great memories, thanks!
@tractorgt
@tractorgt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very interesting!
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