Why Knives Out Worked where The Last Jedi Failed

Why Knives Out Worked where The Last Jedi Failed | Film Perfection

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4 жыл бұрын

Notorious Last Jedi writer-director Rian Johnson made a quick return with his new murder mystery movie Knives Out -- and the close proximity of these two films is very much on show, seeing as there are a lot of similarities between them when it comes to the narrative. And weirdly enough, all those core narrative aspects that made Star Wars Episode 8 unpleasant to many, are actually the strengths of Knives Out. So how did Rian Johnson do the same thing as with The Last Jedi but in a way that suddenly worked and earned him a deserved Oscar nomination? In today's episode of One v One, let's find out.
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Knives Out (2019)
On his 85th birthday, acclaimed crime novelist Harlan Thrombey (Christopher Plummer) is found dead in his room with his throat slit. Just as authorities are about to dismiss the tragedy as suicide due to the lack of evidence to prove otherwise, Detective Benoit Blanc (Daniel Craig) arrives at the scene to conduct his own investigation. Soon, it is revealed that all Everything wrong with Knives out honest trailer knives out watch full movie online free knives out clip 4k hd knives out 2 knives out ending explained Why Captain Marvel Failed where Wonder Woman Worked Why Civil War Worked and Batman v Superman Failed Why Infinity War Worked and Justice League Failed lat jedi rant rise of skywalker of Thrombey’s family have a reason to murder the family’s patriarch. Will Marta (Ana de Armas), the dead man’s caregiver and most trusted confidante, be able to help identify who the killer is? Written and directed by Rian Johnson.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
Rian Johnson (Looper, Brick) wrote and directed this installment of the Star Wars saga, which picks up where The Force Awakens left off. Rey (Daisy Ridley) learns the ways of the Force from Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), and develops a telepathic bond with Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), who is struggling to master the Dark Side. Meanwhile, Stormtrooper-turned-Resistance fighter Finn (John Boyega) teams up with pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and maintenance worker Rose Tico (Kelly Marie Tran) for a risky mission behind enemy lines. Carrie Fisher, Domhnall Gleeson, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie, and Laura Dern co-star.
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
The remaining traces of the Resistance movement assemble in their quest to overthrow the First Order, once and for all. Each member of the Resistance must contend with both their own demons and how the events of the past have affected them, learning to overcome their struggles to create a unified front. Meanwhile, the Jedi and the Sith approach their final face-off, bringing centuries of contention to a head. At the heart of it all is Rey (Daisy Ridley), the former orphan who stands as the Resistance's last hope as the galaxy's remaining Jedi knight. Directed by J.J. Abrams.

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@filon738 4 жыл бұрын

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@SourRobo8364 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, the real core issue with the Last Jedi, is the fact there were multiple different directors and writers doing a trilogy with no roadmap. Making each movie that is suppose to be apary of a trilogy uncohesive

@donovanwiebe2495 4 жыл бұрын

I kind of disagree. I think having 3 different directors having their own movie was a great idea. The problem came when they didn't really build on each other. If you've read Trevorrow's script then you know that it actually did build onto TLJ, and I think that movie would have been infinitely better than what we got. Instead TROS backtracked and ignored a lot of what TLJ brought up. The Force Awakens was bringing Star Wars into a certain direction (same direction as was done before). The Last Jedi steered it into a different direction (which was a good idea but not perfectly executed). Then The Rise of Skywalker brought it back to the original direction (messing everything up). That's your problem

@SourRobo8364 4 жыл бұрын

@@donovanwiebe2495 Fair point. Still, it does feel like TLJ didn't build off of TFA especially with that scene of Luke throwing the light saber away.

@donovanwiebe2495 4 жыл бұрын

@@SourRobo8364 I think Luke was the best part of TLJ. The way they built his connection with Kylo Ren and the reason he was isolated on an island I thought was great. Even his death, I didn't realize until today that people took issue with his death. That movie is far from perfect, but it's ideas and (most) characters were very good. I don't actually see how that scene betrays what TFA promised. All TFA promised was that Luke isolated himself and he can help Rey. That was fully delivered upon

@SourRobo8364 4 жыл бұрын

@@donovanwiebe2495 I liked Luke too, I'm just saying that JJ made that an impactful important moment when Rey returned the light saber. But then Rian makes it a quick joke. While yes it lines up with how Luke's character has changed, the treatment of that scene shows a disconnect with the two directors working on the trilogy.

@alexwallar8608 4 жыл бұрын

Donovan Wiebe. Yes it can work, if the directors work together on the film's so there can be a cohesive story, not totally ignoring the previous film and writing your own thing.

@moviemanreviews5577 4 жыл бұрын

While I believe Johnson is deserving of all the criticism he received for The Last Jedi, he is also 100 percent deserving of all the praise going his way for Knives Out.

@felipea1399 4 жыл бұрын

TLJ is a mess, but its still my favorite sequel since is the only one that was made with actual care into the characters and not just because Disney wanted to exploit Star Wars like the other two

@ImmerginePictures 4 жыл бұрын

Death threats ? Deserving ? How ?

@deepfriedpotato9668 4 жыл бұрын

@@ImmerginePictures It is common knowledge that death threats aren't criticism.

@moviemanreviews5577 4 жыл бұрын

@@ImmerginePictures What he said. Thank you.

@ImmerginePictures 4 жыл бұрын

I agree ! Soz everyone !

@mcst6969 4 жыл бұрын

Glad that Johnson worked out the kinks on a small indie project before he jumped to the important stuff!

@frostymarbles2655 4 жыл бұрын

indie stuff is still important stuff.

@issacalleyne8665 4 жыл бұрын

@@frostymarbles2655 They were sarcastically referring to The Last Jedi as the "small indie project"

@frostymarbles2655 4 жыл бұрын

@@issacalleyne8665 still important xd

@olotocolo 4 жыл бұрын

@@issacalleyne8665 I thought it's more like "yeah good and all but he should learn to write before butchering old loved IP not after"

@TheRealVivia 4 жыл бұрын

mc st 😂😂😂

@vincentprice64 4 жыл бұрын

My favourite scene from "Knives out" was when Linda finally reveals Harlan's writing with the lighter, having previously said, that she and her father loved to play that kind of games, because of course he wouldn't have left just a blank piece of paper for her.

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

And the fact that her husband didn't see it meant he didn't get to know her enough to be worthy of staying with her.

@sephandremanticore5438 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite scene was: "You bitch! Were you fucking my father?"

@dasik84 3 жыл бұрын

It's my absolutely the most favourite scene too.

@argenteuseagle7490 3 жыл бұрын

@@sephandremanticore5438 "WERE YOU BOINKING MY FATHER?!?!" love that scene hahaha

@umapessoa240 3 жыл бұрын

It’s even better because you could easily interpret that as a metaphor for them just “getting” each other.

@Ale-dd3ek 2 жыл бұрын

Rian did what JJ didn't: he learned from his mistakes. The idea of overturn expectations was fine but in TLJ didn't work properly. Rian understood what didn't work and in Knives out he used what he has learned. Failure Is actually a good teacher

@barnabusdoyle4930 Жыл бұрын

Did Johnson learn from his mistakes, or was he surrounded by actors and writing teams who had been around for decades to fix the issues with his script for him? I think Johnson got the same benefits Lucas got during the originals in Knives out, while suffering from the same ego and being surrounded by yes men Lucas had doing the prequels in The Last Jedi. I don’t think Knives Out shows that Johnson is a great director or screen writer, but shows that the actors had far more experience in making sure their characters were much better then they started in the original script.

@thatlemonadeguy6742 4 жыл бұрын

God, I still scream when Marta pukes on Ransom and says "Fran's dead, and you confessed the murder". It's just such a brilliant mini-twist, unnecessary yet amazing.

@spenser9908 8 ай бұрын

"Yeah I killed Fran, but I guess I didn't!" I'm sorry, but on what fucking planet is this film well written?

@grfrjiglstan 4 жыл бұрын

These smaller budget, self-contained indie movies are clearly Rian Johnson's forte. Who was the Einstein who decided to put him in charge of a gigantic blockbuster that's part of an existing franchise?

@grfrjiglstan 4 жыл бұрын

@Nice Try I enjoyed it. If you didn't, that's fine. That's the thing about smaller movies - they don't appeal to everyone, because they don't have to. An indie movie typically has a niche audience, and in that niche, Rian delivers. Blockbusters, on the other hand, have to appeal to as many people as possible, in order to make up the massive amount of money they cost to make. You take an indie director with a polarizing style, and give him a tentpole installment in one of the biggest franchises on the planet, and you can see where there might be a problem.

@joseenrique8713 4 жыл бұрын

@@grfrjiglstan wow bro that was so on Point my common sense gone got a raise

@davidkane6145 4 жыл бұрын

@Nice Try Knives Out is great. You must be trolling.

@suicidalpickle 4 жыл бұрын

It's not an indie movie

@nicholasleclerc1583 4 жыл бұрын

Corporate elite 1%-ers, shockers...

@vazeyo 3 жыл бұрын

What I thought was pretty brilliant about this movie was that every member of the Thrombey family, which describes the origin of Marta, did it differently. Some say her origin is from Uruguay, some others from Ecuador, some from Paraguay and Ransom says that her origin lies in Brasil. As the audience you don´t actually know her origin. It also shows that the members of the Thrombey family don´t give a shit about here, despite saying multiple times that they care for her. It was such a subtle and brilliant way to show this!

@alslayer18 3 жыл бұрын

There was also the fact that she wasn't invited to the funeral and yet every Thrombey family member claimed they wanted her there but were outvoted. (Clearly lying about wanting her there)

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@tonywizdard1531 4 жыл бұрын

The Last Jedi: “Damn...” Knives Out: “DAMN”

@eleegs 4 жыл бұрын

I will sum it up on two over arching points- 1) one is a franchise that the same director literally told existing fans to “let go” or “forget” the $4 billion worth of Ip and then proceeded to use his very effective directorial skills To negate/ cancel said IP in his story treatment. 2) Knives Out uses those same directorial skills to negate and subvert one’s expectations across an entire genre where subversion suits the genre itself. Hiring Riann Johnson to direct The Last Jedi is like hiring a salad chef to participate in a BBQ cook off

@eleegs 4 жыл бұрын

K Ren yes. Mattie and sensible legacy fans WOULD interpret his work in that way. Me? I am both a dad and a Disney Consumer Products licensee. As a stand alone film, it was well crafted. But as a franchise, filmed it was kryptonite.. You don’t ask fans to let go of the past. They still sell toys and wand you to experience them in the parks. HellC he even directly avoided letting two light sabers touch one another to reinforce this subversion to fans who expected more of the same from Lucas’s prequels. He even called then “laser sword”, with the result of my own kid thinking that our visit to Galaxy’s Edge was confusing because they misnamed them as “light sabers”. The purpose TLJ was directed and aimed SOLEY at legacy fans. It fails in the fundamentals of BUILDING NEW IP, which I thought Disney owned the playbook for. Without nitpicking over logic or others creative decisions, the financial results speak for themselves. Of course I won’t forget or let go of the past, but unlike other successful Disney franchise, this one went out of its way to devalue them to new audience without creating much of anything substantially new

@Birthday888 4 жыл бұрын

@K Ren Where do we see that in the film though? The only real part of the film we can see with that theme is the Rey, Ren and Luke plotline. Finn and Poe's plots didn't really have anything to do with that message. Also, if that was true, the problem is that the film didn't show us the "evolve with the good" part of the message enough. Luke's good qualities are virtually non-existent in this movie. He's jaded, cynical, pretty much refuses to try to help save the galaxy and tries killing a young child over the possibility of them becoming evil, when he believed in the redemption of his father who had already done horrible things. See all that character development sailing over the horizon and disappearing? Then Yoda burns down the last piece of Jedi teachings. What's that supposed to mean? That the Jedi are part of the negative we're supposed to abandon? Why? Yoda says something about the books having nothing Rey didn't already have *coughmarysuecough* but what about the people who aren't Rey? What is the good of the Jedi Order that were supposed to evolve with? That it's the group full of the good guys? The film doesn't answer any of these questions.

@oliverford5367 4 жыл бұрын

@@Birthday888 Worst part is he doesn't try to redeem Kylo at the end. Kylo asks if he's come to save him and he says "no" before messing with him and disappearing. There's no character arc for Luke in TLJ.

@w3ghe711 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, there are actual problems with the last jedi, but the ‘let go’ part isn’t one of them. That was litteraly said by the villain and when he says that, the protagonist doesn’t follow him in that. Why do people think that what the villain says is the director’s message? Most of the time it’s litteraly the exact opposite

@g.d.graham2446 2 жыл бұрын

Lol nice analogy

@reidpattis9478 4 жыл бұрын

The reason why the Last Jedi failed: Blatant disregard for the universe's lore; Ryan stated multiple times that he doesn't like creating universes. The reason why Knives Out succeeded: It's not universe building. It's a standalone movie, and Ryan naturally thrives in solid, well-crafted one-offs. Edit: Holy smokes. I didn't expect this comment to be so controversial, especially since what I said has been confirmed by interviews with Ryan himself. Not sure what to say to some of you replying.

@matthegarty6235 4 жыл бұрын

He's actually working on a sequel to this movie right now.

@viscountrainbows6452 4 жыл бұрын

My feelings on TLJ are complex. I tapped out after unwinding the problems with TFA, and TLJ just compounded on those issues, putting the whole franchise in a full-nelson. If it did well by the audience, it would be more business as usual, but Rian did try to shake it up, though "it" happened to be everyone's jimmies. He didn't come to play by the rules, which in some contexts would make someone a maverick and a badass, but when entrusted with the fate of a franchise that longtime fans have stakes in, he took a left instead of a right, and that alone is supposed to be brilliant? And of course, the entirety of circumstances surrounding Holdo manoeuver, the Canto B(l)ight, etc. It's divisive because some people lean heavier into appreciating its maverick nature, but overall many were turned off by how un-Star Wars, Disney's Star Wars had officially become on his watch, when TFA was already betraying a glimmer of its disjointedness.

@Hoganply 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthegarty6235 The world or universe for Knives Out never needed to be built beyond characters, because it's basically our world. Looper had a prebuilt world too, and a story which, again, played out using largely the same rules as present day reality, only with extremely superficial differences. Star Wars is a mythic fantasy with archetypes and black and white themes, of which two of the most notable are 'adventure' and pure, uncomplicated 'destiny', which is NOT in Rian's wheelhouse. He could still have told a satisfying dramatic story under its limitation and bent its rules for the sake of a little nuance/creativity, but core Star Wars is too pure and fantastical for Rian's destructively 'subversive' and unaccommodating sensibilities. Ironically, in realising he'd gone too far, I believe, with his setups he ended up hamstringing his own story by turning his subversions into fakeouts, ultimately wasting the audience's time.

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

@@Hoganply World building usually gets lumped in with lore which is either the spine your work stands on or a light garnish to your dish. It is what's happened. Johnson's movie is heavily inspired by the likes of Agatha Christie and focuses more on character and story aka "What is happening right now and who's involved?"

@Hoganply 4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherbennett5858 My point entirely.

@JeusAlprime108 4 жыл бұрын

I like the 1st and last scene of Knives Out "My House My Rule My Coffee" end up in the right hand... That's brilliant.

@holographic_studios 4 жыл бұрын

“The greatest teacher, failure is.” Well done, Rian.

@dominiccarrano9513 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, except his failure sunk the entire trilogy and damaged faith in the entire franchise

@andreiefectivuatafac1966 3 жыл бұрын

@@dominiccarrano9513 there will be other Star Wars movies in like 3 or 4 years, so the franchise isnt dead. Im preaty sure about that because that was the exact same thing that happened with the prequels. Only time will know.

@mrrandrade Жыл бұрын

Don't think he learned anything or even believes it was a failure. From everything I read coming from him, he's one of the most egotistical arsejoles in existence and thinks that whoever didn't agree with him is just wrong.

@rrbcraftergames3361 Жыл бұрын

@@dominiccarrano9513 it would’ve done that to itself

@rrbcraftergames3361 Жыл бұрын

@@mrrandrade hehehe source?

@KuraiSensei 4 жыл бұрын

Filmento: "Maybe its time to finally forgive Rian Johnson" Me: "I wish my parents were as forgiving as Filmento"

@warbler1984 3 жыл бұрын

Your parents still hate Rian Johnson, huh?

@Samm815 3 жыл бұрын

@@warbler1984 I do, then again I'm the son of my father.

@sephandremanticore5438 3 жыл бұрын

Why the hell should anyone forgive Rian Johnson? He literally, with his own words, insulted the fanbase. He called them manbabies. Rian Johnson is a castrated prick who doesn't deserve a Hollywood career.

@darryl0745 3 жыл бұрын

@@sephandremanticore5438 Well, plenty of fans ARE manbabies. Not all, but plenty, who didn't have to go write 50 pages essays on why he sucks on twitter but they did. Plus, it's the cycle of violence; one has to stop, and if that is Johnson peace will not provail.

@mrrandrade Жыл бұрын

I don't hate Rian Johnson because of a movie, but I lost definitely hate and despise everything else about him and how he posed himself about the situation. If that's how he handles crisis, he can't complain about the hate.

@coreycaesarvt 4 жыл бұрын

Easy thing to explain. Number one rule of writing: know your audience. You dont write stuff for one group and expect it to be good for everyone else.

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, At best, people outside your group will appreciate what makes your work so appealing to your demographic. I enjoy horror and mystery series but one of my favourite movies of the early 2000's is Legally Blonde.

@coreycaesarvt 4 жыл бұрын

K, Ren

@-kiexes-8706 4 жыл бұрын

@G Ren I disagree with most of what you said, but I really wanted to point out that the Ewoks are probably the single most hated thing in the entire original trilogy.

@thewall1179 2 жыл бұрын

Lol it could just as easily be stated that the number one rule of writing is write for yourself. Don't try to appeal to trends or fandoms.

@hexogramd8430 Жыл бұрын

@@-kiexes-8706 not anymore bitch I love Ewoks and so do most people

@KevKedro 3 жыл бұрын

It's the little things that really made me love this movie. Mainly, when Harlan talks about how much Ransom is like Harlan himself. Protected, living life without consequence, so much so that you can't tell the difference between a stage prop and a real knife. Then, sure enough, Ransom grabs a fake knife from the ring of knives. The coffee mug Marta uses at the end (the "my house, my rules, my coffee") was also a nice touch as she stands over the entire family. A family that once looked down on Marta enough to offer financial security now looking right back up to Marta for that same financial security.

@Wandergirl108 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite subversion of expectations in Knives Out is that the black sheep of the family turns out to be the villain. Like, in SO many stories, that one character who doesn't fit in and who everyone else in the group hates is ALWAYS the good guy in the end, you see Ransom in this movie and assume he must actually be the good guy BECAUSE he's the selfish douche that no one else in the family likes, that expectation is there for anyone who has been a fan of movies for any length of time prior to seeing Knives Out. It's not an in-universe expectation, it's playing on the AUDIENCE'S assumptions about how characterization in stories goes, specifically that black sheep are always red herrings, making him the one guy we don't expect. I freaking love it, it upends one of the most fundamental tropes that storytellers have spent decades if not centuries establishing and it's genius.

@daviddavidson2662 4 ай бұрын

Don't forget who they got to play Ransom, freaking Captain American himself. Whether or not you're a fan, I feel like most people would associate Ransom -> Captain America and he would seem like a more likeable & trustworthy person.

@betterlatethannever4529 4 жыл бұрын

There's a difference between subverting expectations in a genre known for the trope, and subverting them in Star Wars . Fans expect there to be twists in a murder mystery story. However, they also expect continuity in the middle of a trilogy.

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

@@revbladez5773 Twists are good if they actually twist the direction of things. Twists are bad when they are so minor... TImeless children is a good example.

@betterlatethannever4529 4 жыл бұрын

@Hillary Clinton fair enough

@carrier2823 4 жыл бұрын

This movie blew my mind when I saw it in theatres. I had no clue Johnston had any involvement with it until I saw the credits

@atomicvinylreviews3420 4 жыл бұрын

same here

@shinote4 4 жыл бұрын

The rich man leaving everything to his nurse isn't a subverted expectation; it's a classic trope.

@rapidreaders7741 4 жыл бұрын

For real? I've personally never seen it happen in a murder mystery before. Could you give me an example?

@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 жыл бұрын

@@rapidreaders7741 😂

@awesium5031 4 жыл бұрын

You are correct; however, the reasoning therein is subversive. More often than not that has to do with some sexual attraction and is in part because the nurse manipulates the rich man. In this situation the nurse is such a good person he literally just wants the best for her.

@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 жыл бұрын

@@awesium5031 that is not new either. esp. in french farce comedies. you find rich old men that leave things to young ladies, even if there's no love. just cause the nurse is good to him sometime

@tygerlyn1123 3 жыл бұрын

True, but it is such a satisfying payoff to see all these greedy people suddenly get what's coming to them.

@generalmortars7557 4 жыл бұрын

Martha... WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

@midoeldeeb3223 3 жыл бұрын

Will, it's been a year and u have 69 likes

@jacobgriffeth3068 3 жыл бұрын

Something not mentioned but that I really enjoyed is that in a Whodunnit you spend so much time trying to figure out who did it and the fact that we believe Marta is the killer early on means a lot of us stopped looking for the killer allowing the twists to unfold in an even more satisfying way because ransom just flies under the radar completely.

@danielwggudan2 2 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing to me that these two very different stories can live in the same writers mind

@GrieveIV 4 жыл бұрын

Tlj also had lots of universe and a whole prior film to develop on. Rian didn’t have to do that in Knives Out.

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

Ironically, Creativity works at its best when it's got limitations. The world o Knives out is Earth so no need to develop on that. The genre is much like a 1920's Agatha Christie Novel in that it's all about the house and its inhabitants. It is a duel between the detective and the culprit and in Knives out, we see the assumed culprit's side

@hanburgundy4317 4 жыл бұрын

But that's the thing; it's REALLY easy to write a Star Wars story that doesn't destroy what came before while still telling your own story, so I can't forgive Johnson for screwing everything up - JJ, too; he ruined Han. Like, for real: it's easy. _Remnants of the Empire still lurk in the dark places of the galaxy. The Rebel Alliance - now calling themselves the Galactic Alliance - has turned the tables and searches every known star system for their elusive quarry._ _Unbeknownst to them, the Alliance are not the only ones searching for the Empire_ ... See? Thirty seconds, and I created a story that can go anywhere without shitting on the main characters. You can tell any story you want within the parameters of the Star Wars IP, as long as you don't abuse the source material or leave the story in a ruined or unrecognizable state. You can't just take the protagonist, shove him to the side, and take away everything that previously defined him; that's not gonna fly with the fanbase. ANYONE should have known that.

@GrieveIV 4 жыл бұрын

Hans Ollo I dunno I still don’t have a problem with anything JJ did. JJ just cleaned up the mess of Johnson. Although Johnson did briefly entertain the idea of both leads realizing that dark and light will always be in balance so conflict doesn’t matter but then, eh

@hanburgundy4317 4 жыл бұрын

@@GrieveIV But that disregards the author's intent; George's idea of balance - which he was explicit about - was not an equal measure of light and dark, but an absence of dark from the Force.

@GrieveIV 4 жыл бұрын

Hans Ollo yea that’s true cuz the light side is a side of balance, while the dark side is supposed to be chaotic. I find a bad guy good guy team up very appealing. Certainly would’ve been different

@caleblim6890 3 жыл бұрын

Conclusion: if you’re looking for someone to write a sequel to a Ray Bradbury (legendary sci-fi/fantasy author) story, don’t hire Agatha Christie.

@Ahabite 4 жыл бұрын

I said it before and I'll say it again: Rian Johnson is who he is, and he has never claimed otherwise. He fancies himself an auteur and should therefore just focus on his own stuff. But and because of that, he should've never been hired to write/direct a Star Wars movie, let alone the middle movie in a trilogy. The middle movie is the hardest to write and pull off, and in the process, potentially the most destructive to previous and subsequent installments. This one is on Kathleen Kennedy, and no one else. She should have known ahead of time that he was a bad hire, especially in conjunction with Jar Jar Abrams.

@mattbautista2012 4 жыл бұрын

Yes agreed. KK is mostly to blame but he should have never accepted the job knowing his writing style and ability but I can imagine it's hard to deny the opportunity to write/direct a Star Wars movie.

@Ahabite 4 жыл бұрын

@@mattbautista2012 Solid points. And I totally agree with "he should have never accepted the job" and "but I can imagine it's hard to deny" star wars money/fame. It's such a bad situation, almost a perfect storm of incompetence. Regards!

@diersteinjulien6773 4 жыл бұрын

the sequel trilogy is a 4-way failure: Bob Iger shouldn't have allowed anything without an outline for the whole trilogy first. Abrams shouldn't have been allowed to plays with his mistery boxes, especialy if he didn't want to answer what was inside himself. Ryan Reynolds shouldn't have done his own thing. If he is too much of a free spirit to work in a pre-set universe, he should have declined. KK should have overseen the whole process with rigor and reined in Abram and Reynolds when they went off track. For me it's a failure on every level.

@LinkMarioSamus 4 жыл бұрын

I think much of the problem here is that Disney took note of the friction between Marvel Entertainment and Marvel Studios that had resulted in a lot of bad publicity for Phase 2 of the MCU and decided that for Star Wars they were just going to let their auteurs play around. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but the cinematic climate of the time had a lot to do with the overarching design process behind the new Star Wars films. While Kathleen Kennedy no doubt deserves much of the blame, people tend to act like she's some diabolical mastermind behind the ruination of Star Wars to suit her own agenda. I get more the vibe she just let things go off the rails and just didn't know what she was doing at every turn. Her leadership of Lucasfilm reminds me so much of Donald Trump's presidency it's not even funny.

@Ahabite 4 жыл бұрын

@@diersteinjulien6773 So, a 4-way perfect storm? That sounds even worse. I don't know if there even exists another safety measure to counter exactly this thing from happening...

@melodramaticjerbear155 4 жыл бұрын

So, in other words, he used Star Wars as a prototype for his own film. Classy.

@river7222 4 жыл бұрын

Or it's just his style.

@NewGuy2534 4 жыл бұрын

No.

@Epiales333 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's more along the lines of he fucked up with The Last Jedi, realized he fucked up, then did his own thing as a way to try to fix it and figure out how he could have done it right. Which is great, if a writer can recognize when they fucked something up it means that they'll only get better. Or he's just better with mysteries. Some writers can do one style really well, but try to carry over tropes that don't work when trying to do something different, and it doesn't end well.

@chrisharmon2730 4 жыл бұрын

@@Epiales333 True and all he had to do was ruin Star Wars. But hey he wrote a good who-dun-it, its all cool!

@SteveSmith-rt7wx 4 жыл бұрын

@ The Cubed No, that implies that Rian Roundhead is self aware. He still thinks he did a great job on Star Wars, despite the fact he doesn't care about Star Wars.

@PeterDCruel 4 жыл бұрын

I think Ryan is great creating single films. The moment he has to adapt or continue a saga, he fucks up. But in single films? He is very creative and original.

@ADifferentVibe Жыл бұрын

Well, this didn't age that well since "Glass Onion" the sequel to Knives Out is also critically acclaimed. He can continue his own saga.

@hexogramd8430 Жыл бұрын

@@ADifferentVibe Two is hardly a saga you have to have three or four in my opinion to be considered a saga

@randocalrissian1980 Жыл бұрын

@@hexogramd8430Three is a trilogy, four is a quadriology , and five is apentalogy. Anything six and beyond would be a saga.

@oliverford5367 4 жыл бұрын

He's not necessarily bad at movies, but he's not a team player. He clearly couldn't work as only one part of a larger narrative. He's entirely responsible for the billion-dollar drop between VII and IX, as he did his deconstructing thing and left nothing for the next director to work with. He may make good single movies but not sagas.

@mikek9297 2 жыл бұрын

He should never have even been considered as a SW director. It's not his genre and he made a mess of it all. Frankly I don't give a damn what this dude does for the rest of his life - I don't want to hear about him ever again.

@emblemblade9245 Жыл бұрын

You too can learn from the failure, don’t let it consume you just because he hurt one movie in a franchise that’s been falling apart

@claqyagami6914 Жыл бұрын

@Judge Jerry Poppins I think the real reason people are really mad is because he was on twatter gloating to the fans about how he fucked up their beloved ip and calling them all -ists and -phobes for having their hearts broken, or something like that. It's not purely from his 'mistakes' on TLJ.

@sunsetman22 Жыл бұрын

@@claqyagami6914 I loved Looper, Knives Out, Glass Onion, and his Breaking Bad episodes, but the guy's a twat, no two ways about it lmao.

@captaindeadpool313 4 жыл бұрын

12:32 somehow better than the actual scene.

@Coffeebourne 4 жыл бұрын

Columbo was one of the first shows to strayed from the “whodunnit” to the “howchatchem”.

@tonyth9240 4 жыл бұрын

It was cool

@darthdenn1s 4 жыл бұрын

The whole thing could have been avoided if Harlan went downstairs and died in front of everyone.

@TheSchaef47 4 жыл бұрын

That might have called his sanity into question and invalidated the change to his will, made just that same day.

@mrfister1234 4 жыл бұрын

What he said. Harlan wouldn’t want the will changed

@horace6851 3 жыл бұрын

he thought he doesn't have time

@rckblzr 3 жыл бұрын

He probably was worried that the family would then want an autopsy, which would implicate Marta.

@ruanvcunha 3 жыл бұрын

The whole thing could have been avoided if Harlan had called the freaking ambulance like Marta said

@DashB-ee9ty 3 жыл бұрын

‘Knives Out” was SO good. It was fun, AMAZING acting, and a GREAT script.

@hkmrsrg1367 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not convinced though. He did Brick so I'm not really surprised that he could do a decent movie like Knives Out. And I'm not sure one can say that he "learnt" something. He's had it all along. The thing with mystery movies, Brick and Knives out were both mystery movies, is that you have to mislead. Otherwise, it gets pretty boring. 4i4f you know who the bad guy is, it doesn't seem as fresh. So, RJ is so used to writing movies that way. It's okay for mystery movies. But he did that to Star Wars which is not a mystery movie. He keep trying to make it unguessable by putting all these subversions. But in Star Wars, you're not suppose to guess and keep guessing. He employed his technique for mystery in a non mystery movie ignoring what came before it and not caring what follows. I was shocked when they picked him for Star Wars. He did Looper and that's all the scifi he did and it wasn't very good. I don't know what they saw in him. He knows how to make mystery movies but that's all he knows, IMO. He's just not very versatile.

@darthsmythe6783 4 жыл бұрын

Hakmer Siregar agreed I don't doubt his ability to make good movies, but not a Star Wars movie unless they gave him a rogue one or other universe but not sequel movies. I did not tell my niece he directed knives out because she was all about seeing it, when she saw him in the credits she was immediately upset and asked why he couldn't have done the same with TLJ.

@tubetorpedo 4 жыл бұрын

I think we can say he wrote it totally wrong. He was hired to do a sequel to a space opera adventure, and he wrote a mystery movie with totally unnecessary twist. Task failed spectacularly. A tale of a spaceship that for some reason is losing speed in space. And that seems to indicate he can only write one kind of stories like actor who is typecasted to always do certain role. He can do that one thing well.

@user-jp7tw3sd3x 4 жыл бұрын

@Hakmer Siregar, Rian could have made his Star Wars movie into a mystery one. After all JJ left him with so many mystery boxes. Instead Rian made it into a chase. We know why TLJ is bad. Rian said it himself, he is not good writer, he needs years to polish a script. They went to film the first draft of TLJ. I once did the math and it might not have been more than 2-3 month from been hired until he had the script. (Of course, the script had more revisions, but no major changes.)

@LinkMarioSamus 4 жыл бұрын

@@darthsmythe6783 Funny thing is Johnson had a cameo in Rogue One, and that film's director was the guy who said "it's salt!" in TLJ.

@LinkMarioSamus 4 жыл бұрын

In fairness, Looper got loads of critical acclaim and shows up on many best of lists (I found at least one list of the "best sci-fi films of the past 25 years" that ranked it even above The Matrix and Terminator 2!). Roger Ebert even gave it 3.5 stars. You may not have liked it, but the film was clearly successful. I'm interested in that movie largely because Bruce Willis.

@strangerthingsfan0458 4 жыл бұрын

And this is why Rian Johnson should stick to making original films and NOT franchise sequels.

@matheusrafagnin5210 4 жыл бұрын

Filmento: *puts star wars and knives out in the same video* Me: you have my interest

@melodramaticjerbear155 4 жыл бұрын

The "subversion" with everything in the will going to Marta is the least subversive subversion ever.

@josharntt 4 жыл бұрын

It's about the journey not the destination, it went how I thought it would but I enjoyed it thoroughly.

@melodramaticjerbear155 4 жыл бұрын

@@josharntt I found the movie entertaining enough, but calling that a great plot twist struck me as absurd

@josharntt 4 жыл бұрын

@@melodramaticjerbear155 I'd still call it a great plot twist, just not a surprising one, if that makes sense. It makes it more interesting, even if it's foreseeable.

@melodramaticjerbear155 4 жыл бұрын

@@josharntt Fair enough

@hardygal2 4 жыл бұрын

Lol, I'll be honest, this struck me as such an obvious place for the plot to go that I thought that the twist was gonna be that everything in the will was gonna go to Ransom

@ethanhegel8576 4 жыл бұрын

You know what really drives me crazy about the Last Jedi that NO ONE ever talks about?? The lasers from the First Order ship don't travel in a straight line! They arch through space!!!! Why???? There's no gravity! There's no atmosphere! Never has a laser in Star Wars done anything but travel in a straight line! ...okay... *breathing* I'm good. Everything's good. ...

@tonyth9240 4 жыл бұрын

*H E A V Y B R E A T H I N G* *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

@ricojes 4 жыл бұрын

"Stay tuned to discover sponsor" *scroll down to pinned comment 10 seconds into video* "Oh it's Raid, who would've guessed."

@shmavster4209 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly Rian Johnson isnt really as bad as people think, he did a great job with Knives out, and he also directed the best TV episode in history, Breaking Bad’s Ozymandias

@assembled1855 3 жыл бұрын

He also did a good action movie called Looper with Joseph Gordon Levitt and Bruce Willis.

@superbanananinja 4 жыл бұрын

I loved this movie so much. Such a great new way to tell a murder mystery. And amazing storytelling with established characters that get the full showcase. I especially loved Marta and Harlan's relationship, and how genuine it was. They loved eachother, which made it even more heartbreaking. So many things I could gush about with this movie but I'll shut up before this comment gets even longer lol Great video!!! I had been thinking about when I first saw this movie how interesting it was that Johnson seemed to do a full turnaround of how this movie was received

@chunchunmaru5761 4 жыл бұрын

It’s like Schaffrillas said in his Top 10 vid, Rian is a talented director, he shoudn’t be wasting his time directing SW trilogy no.17” His method of subverting works more on Standalone films

@issacalleyne8665 4 жыл бұрын

Did I miss the other 14 trilogies?

@chunchunmaru5761 4 жыл бұрын

Issac Alleyne I think it was an exaggeration

@issacalleyne8665 4 жыл бұрын

@@chunchunmaru5761 You don't say

@hlairan 3 жыл бұрын

@Jinha Choi Too much? Really? So bending the rules of hyperspace is tolerable?

@hlairan 3 жыл бұрын

@G Ren Snoke's death seemed to be a momentum killer, the momentum was built by Jar Jar Abrams, only to be killed unceremoniously in this 2nd part. For the sake of "subversive" scene? I get the idea, but again please honor the previous film (TFA).

@ClockworkGearhead 4 жыл бұрын

Rian Johnson's biggest flaw with Star Wars was trying to give the audience what they wanted, when he, himself, didn't understand what they wanted. It was like getting school supplies for a Christmas present, and he acts offended when you don't like it, saying, "What's the problem? You said you were a nerd!"

@crocidile90 4 жыл бұрын

No, it is more like he had a feeling of what the audience wanted, but said "fuck it" and did his own twist because (in the words of KZfaqr Anti-Trekker) "Dark forces space butthole" or "Subversion".

@jadonberg9364 4 жыл бұрын

Rian Johnson immediately after releasing TLJ: Let the past die. kill it if you have to

@billyd7887 4 жыл бұрын

I learn while laughing and being entertained from these vids.

@OrlandoVidali 4 жыл бұрын

I was shocked Knives Out was so good. In fact when I watched it I didn’t realize it was Johnson ... I randomly rented it and then looked at the director after. I probably wouldn’t have rented it if I had haha. Great cast too.

@buki3009 4 жыл бұрын

i was really angry at johnson for ruining star wars , but damn knives out blow my mind i wish i could forget it and watch it again wow

@adammiller011 3 жыл бұрын

there's a saying in film writing called "if you have a gun in the third act, introduce it in the first act" and Rian Johnson does a great job in Knives Out

@devilsxdancex09 4 жыл бұрын

Knives out was a solo thing. TLJ was part of a larger story that he himself said he didn't care about the lore that came before.

@rockyblacksmith 4 жыл бұрын

And that tells us a lot about what Rian Johnson is good at, and what he is bad at. The real question is why anyone gave him a Star Wars movie to make.

@m.poppins4843 3 жыл бұрын

@Gary Poppins I don't know why but I have the feeling he was being a pretentious prick with TLJ. I mean, I wouldn't have minded leaving the theatre feeling he made terrible choices, but still made a good move, and possibly a good star wars movie. Instead it ends like 2 steps away from where it started, but now we have plus one flying Leia, minus one bad guy, and no more Luke for some reasons. Its almost like he have had eyes bigger than stomach, took himself for some kind of big head writer master in the subversive arts, but in the end failed at delivering any of what he wanted to for various reasons our host just explained in the vid... Anyway don't want to hate the man --- tho we can't forget the big Disney machine was still behind him and the film probably got destroyed in post prod --- and maybe this all story made he's new film even better who knows.

@mish375 4 жыл бұрын

The core problem for The Last Jedi for me was that as a stand alone film it failed because it had barely any story and characterization. In Knives Out, all the characters seem like real people you might meet in a family and the mystery embedded in the story is so well crafted that it keeps you interested.

@madderthanever 4 жыл бұрын

I've always known that Rian Johnson is a good writer - I mean, _Brick_ and _Looper_ existed before _TLJ_ was made, so you can't take that away from him. The thing is... *do not give this man any IP with already established cannon, 'cause he'll fuck it up, guarantee.* What sad is that his own trilogy would have probably be better than his sole _SW_ entry... but we'll never see it now, and, well, I don't think it's a bad thing.

@suezuccati304 4 жыл бұрын

Looper is a convoluted mess.

@akhilnair1137 3 жыл бұрын

@@suezuccati304 it's pretty straightforward.

@suezuccati304 3 жыл бұрын

@@akhilnair1137 no, its filled with contrivances that are given no explanation, like the fact that they need to send the guy to kill himself.

@akhilnair1137 3 жыл бұрын

@@suezuccati304 what's wrong with sending a mercenary to kill himself from the future?

@suezuccati304 3 жыл бұрын

@@akhilnair1137 because idunno, maybe the guy would recognize himself and try to screw up the scheme, like that's exactly what happens in the movie? why cant they send another mercenary? actually, the movie just stablishes that as a rule for no explained reason whatsoever.

@keithb4077 4 жыл бұрын

You're an outstanding film analyst. I've enjoyed many of these insightful deep dives you've created. You seem to prefer current movies, but please treat yourself (and us viewers) to The Prestige.

@christscrackers647 4 жыл бұрын

I always like watching your videos. They really supply me with plenty of lessons on how to write a story quite flawlessly.

@krach1854 4 жыл бұрын

Me some days ago: I can't understand how Ryan Johnson was able to do Knives Out, which is such an amazing movie, but fail so badly when making TLJ. Me right now: Well, thank u for this, Filmento.

@AngryEwok 4 жыл бұрын

Badly with TLJ? Are you serious? TLJ is the best SW movie since TESB. It looks like you just prefere less complex movies, like Knives Out.

@PentaHousen 4 жыл бұрын

Easy, because he doesn't cared about TLJ and whole Star Wars. Kinves out it was his personal project so he actually cared doing his best to create enjoyable movie. Tbh... Knives out is 6/10 It's not bad, but dammit at parts i thought my IQ was sooo low with other characters actions.

@kingbash6466 4 жыл бұрын

Angry Ewok Okay if you say so.

@enigma13ff 4 жыл бұрын

@@AngryEwok Yep, the millions of people who think TLJ including myself is a bad film are just simple minded...............

@AngryEwok 4 жыл бұрын

@@PentaHousen but he cared. TLJ was his personal project too. He did like he wanted, not like fans wanted. And this is the point of good filmmaking. Because if ypu do what fans wanted, it would pe just a product, just an empty fanservice( like most of MCU)

@lithantushelo7932 4 жыл бұрын

Ya'll talk like Rian Johnson only made The Last Jedi and Knives Out.... Go check out Brick, his first film, cause its brilliant despite the rough indie elements.

@MoLetalis 4 жыл бұрын

What are "indie elements"? Indie movies are simply independent movies financed by individuals, without the use of a film studio.

@lithantushelo7932 4 жыл бұрын

@@MoLetalis i mean the sloppiness of the an Indie film with a micro budget.... thats what I meant more than the formal distinction of a Studio picture and an Indie film... there are big indie films and small studio films I know.... but i mean bad audio in certain areas or tracking shots clearly done on a pick up truck🤷🏾‍♂️

@MoLetalis 4 жыл бұрын

@@lithantushelo7932 40 million is not a micro budget... It's not an indie film. It's a professionally produced, high budget, A-cast detective film. I watched it yesterday with headphones and I didn't experience any bad audio. A lot of films still use pick-ups to shoot tracking shots btw.

@lithantushelo7932 4 жыл бұрын

@@MoLetalis Im talking about Brick.

@MoLetalis 4 жыл бұрын

@@lithantushelo7932 Okay that explains a lot XD

@qtrain1000 4 жыл бұрын

There's no doubt that RJ has a talent for writing. I think he would have done better with a stand alone film where he has creative control of his characters. It's when he has to use someone else's characters that he seems to have problems.

@Trumanlol86 4 жыл бұрын

LOL I love Filmento's sponsor segments so much. This is definitely the best raid shadow legends spot I've seen so far.

@mrwhatcanido4942 4 жыл бұрын

thank you Filmento. i was waiting for a video like this :)

@keelobrown4991 4 жыл бұрын

I really like knives out and didnt know rian directed it until the end. I was shocked!

@atomicvinylreviews3420 4 жыл бұрын

that was the movies biggest twist ! haha

@michaelnanni3535 3 жыл бұрын

I saw Knives Out few days ago. I think it has only one core story telling flaw. If Benoît Blanc had suspect on Marta for the first moment (as we know at the end), i think he should immediately ask her the right strict questions (from his coeherent perspective) like: "do you think that Harlan committed suicide or was murdered?" OR "Do you know who killed him?" The movie would be totally different. Instead he just let her answer to a generic "what happened?" and then he uses her particular feature of not be able to tell lies only for unmasking the others suspects, which is however fun.

@tremaursen7655 4 жыл бұрын

Dude, your editing is getting better and better, great job!

@giri1478 4 жыл бұрын

you are totally amazing - you are doing a lot of hard work to show how much of a good writer johnson is. Thank you :) loved your video analysis - its too good

@Axterix13 4 жыл бұрын

When Kylo cuts Snoke in half, it is very obvious that is what he's going to do. It is so obvious, it breaks the immersion in the scene that Snoke, supposed mastermind that he is, cannot see it coming (because everyone in charge throughout 95% of the movie is incompetent). Also, it's a SW movie, and Sith (and Jedi in general) killing their masters isn't subverting anything. It's routine. And added to that, with how TFA borrows heavily from ANH plot and the salt planet reminding people of Hoth in ESB, this scene being very reminiscent of RotJ means the expectation is that Kylo will kill his master. If you want to subvert a student/master relationship in SW, you'd have to do the reverse... set it up to look like imminent betrayal, and then not do it. I'd say the subversion Johnson was going for there wasn't that bit, but rather what happens afterwards. That it isn't a redemption of Kylo, the two coming together, but rather, that after the fight, they're driven apart. Killing Snoke, the subsequent teamwork to fight the guards... that's all set up.

@sagivaleon7355 4 жыл бұрын

The fact that he proved himself to be a good writer with Knives Out honestly only makes TLJ *worse*.

@atomicvinylreviews3420 4 жыл бұрын

exactly, it makes it seem like he f**** that film up on purpose...

@atomicvinylreviews3420 3 жыл бұрын

@Shreyas Misra Disney are definitely at fault, but I don't think that puts Johnson off the hook... This situation doesn't feel like a great visionary director having his creation destroyed by studio melding, rather someone who isn't a good fit for the franchise working along side a meddling studio. Each one obliviously helping to further tank the project whilst patting each other on the back as they blindly hack it to bits... He made a lot of really bad decisions in TLJ and he defends them to this day, in fact one of the worse things is his attitude towards the fans and critics of the movie, and how snobbishly and childishly he dose defend the movie...

@zubatmain 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. Please never stop!

@dylanmahaffey8920 3 жыл бұрын

It's odd watching Knives Out after The Last Jedi and seeing him get everything he got wrong in Jedi right and in a far more complicated movie, it's just baffling.

@toganium4175 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, my biggest issue with the Star Wars sequel trilogy is how it used 2 very different directors with completely different visions. The entire trilogy could've been great if it had one consistent vision. -That, and if Rey died or wasn't even in the films in the first place. I cannot STAND this character.-

@hanburgundy4317 4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, if she had just been a pilot and a mechanic - maybe good with a blaster - like the new Han Solo, everyone would have loved her. The problem was that she was _every_ main character: the Jedi, the pilot, the mechanic, the love interest, the mystery, etc.

@deriznohappehquite 4 жыл бұрын

Hans Ollo you pretty much nailed it.

@whodis715 4 жыл бұрын

Jj made her tge focus to begin with The movies were not about the first order vs the resistance It was about WhO ReYs pArEnTs ArE You really think a triliogy focused on rey since the beginning is a good idea?

@jasminecrawford42 4 жыл бұрын

@@hanburgundy4317 Imo, making the protagonist of the Skywalker saga not a Skywalker was a fail from the start, esp bc she takes the legacy anyways 🤦🏻‍♀️. Her having that power makes some sense if she grew up as a Skywalker and was TRAINED. Luke being Vader's kid, iconic and who is Rey was never gonna live up to it anyways, so why bother 🙄. Her and Kylo rl has ethos, depth and a connection makes actual sense if they're family. Her rl to the OT gang makes sense now. The set up was there and to be subversive, I guess they said nope too obvious which dumb af. I barely cared about Ms. Nobody, but little Ms. Palpatine (undeservedly taking the Skywalker name at that) can absolutely get fucked 😂.

@hanburgundy4317 4 жыл бұрын

@@jasminecrawford42 For real lol I just consider the Disney trilogy non-canon.

@rrbcraftergames3361 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, good thing last Jedi failed for Rian Johnson, cause he learned from his mistakes and then created this masterpiece ❤

@andyofzz Жыл бұрын

and fails again in the sequel lol

@rrbcraftergames3361 Жыл бұрын

@@andyofzz uhh hate to break it to ya but a 95% rotten tomatoes on a movie is not a fail. Watched it, it’s great

@andyofzz Жыл бұрын

@@rrbcraftergames3361 watched，and it's mediocre at best

@Darkri56789 4 жыл бұрын

This video was just what I needed for my book. Thanks for the insight!

@MousePounder 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video dude!!

@TadeuCunhaMiranda 4 жыл бұрын

For better or worse, The Last Jedi is a movie that is not going to be forgotten anytime soon.

@TadeuCunhaMiranda 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, and by the way, I will never let TLJ die. It was an amazing movie and I´ll always talk about it.

@imperialspecialforce5769 4 жыл бұрын

@@TadeuCunhaMiranda the only thing that I hate is how TROS doesn't even acknowledge the events of TLJ

@snatchadams69 4 жыл бұрын

Johnson has done great films it's just that massive Space Operas aren't in his wheelhouse. Just like Elizabeth Banks can't do action films. No matter how talented you are you have to recognize your limits..

@medoingstuff1284 2 жыл бұрын

I just watched this film (knives out) today and I’ve seen a few other reviews but this channel still explains things in a way I enjoy so much more than the other channels.

@gaurimann7156 4 жыл бұрын

Weekend made 🥳👏 thanks for the upload

@Max-fr6ny 4 жыл бұрын

Johnson's blunder on The Last Jedi may ultimately prove to be a net positive, as he seemed to learn a great deal from the experience.

@keliseiredfall598 4 жыл бұрын

Exploring the lore=Not explaining why does that happened or how. Charater Development=Changing the character without a good explanation in how it happened and why, also the events that changed are also out of character and we don't have a clue why he did that.

@stantana209 4 жыл бұрын

this is my fav one of yours. Knives Out had me guessing the whole way.

@GuzziHeroV50 4 жыл бұрын

12:32 lost my shit right there :D

@NandoRestrepo 4 жыл бұрын

This premise is confusing , for some reason it says TLJ failed ... It didn't

@Daniel-Rosa. 3 жыл бұрын

14:30 I don't think I had ever laughed at *perfection,* as I did with your perfect use of those "Dayums" before LOL

@rjhs01999 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks!

@DerekGnarGnar 4 жыл бұрын

Loved Knives Out. 100% agree with the criticisms leveled against RJ for TLJ and yet...I still love that movie too :)

@wetubeerman 4 жыл бұрын

The fact that Johnson is a good writer, makes it that much harder to forget how he so completely screwed up Star Wars.

@keepmoving1185 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing video!!!

@effective_cmpote 4 жыл бұрын

keep it up. This was great!

@Lezeppobishopslog 4 жыл бұрын

Im with u on everything youve said except one thing...and i fuond this with almost every youtuber who has spoken about The Last Jedi and Rian Johnsons ability to craft a brilliant story on film. This is strange to me because his first film Brick showcases these same things your talking about in Knives Out...not to mention he's done Brother's Bloom and Looper...so yes Episode 8 wasnt great however to pretend like the dude came out of nowhere or that he Knives Out is the first proof of his ability to do go works is just not the case...love the channel but just something ive noticed universally, when ppl talk about Rian Johnson and his Episode 8 contributions

@christopherbennett5858 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's because, since Last Jedi got so much of an emotional reaction, people would be more interested in what he did after Last Jedi than before it.

@Lezeppobishopslog 4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherbennett5858 fair enough...but i doubt your general star wars fan or audience knew who he was before...but u dont call the guy a terrible director and you havent seen his other works...not you but in general is what i mean

@danielbain3613 4 жыл бұрын

So it was incompetence, it was a giant screw you to the fans.

@rockyblacksmith 4 жыл бұрын

Mismatched director and project is more like it. Working within a franchise isn't as easy as one might imagine, and it's even harder to make truly good movies within one. Johnson may be a competent and creative director, but from the looks of it, he isn't good at adapting to the constraints of a preexisting universe. Meanwhile, JJ Abrams may be abled to adapt to that (to some extent at least) but then struggles to be original or to properly conclude his ideas. If one wants to blame someone, it should primarily be focussed on the Disney executives who created the conditions for this mess to unravel in.

@oliverford5367 4 жыл бұрын

@@rockyblacksmith Yeah hyperspace ramming is ok if you forget the previous films. It looks beautiful on screen but makes no sense in terms of lore.

@rockyblacksmith 4 жыл бұрын

@@oliverford5367 Exactly. TLJ would be a better (though still heavily flawed) film if it were a standalone story. It almost feels like it doesn't want to be part of a larger story, and is actively fighting the universe it's set in.

@Kikefriki 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Very smart. Thank you very much.

@-opresiet-1414 Жыл бұрын

Since everyone seems to be mentioning their favorite scene, here's mine. The fact that Martha was fully committed in admitting her mistake and wanting to call an ambulance. If that were to happen the old guy would still be alive since he got the right medicine and Captain America would have immediately been exposed.

@sheevpalps3846 4 жыл бұрын

There is a different tone and story that needs to be continued and built upon in Star Wars unlike any other independent film, like Knives Out. The amount of outright real world implications takes you out of Star Wars, unlike one Knives Out where the film benefits from its unique feel focused on by its director.

@zhongxina8426 3 жыл бұрын

The Last Jedi may be one of the most disappointing movies I have ever watched but Knives Out is undeniably one of the greatest movies I have ever watched.

@delyseonduty 4 жыл бұрын

Love your editing style. Subscribing ♥️

@gaelmichaud8766 3 жыл бұрын

Not only do the random elements connect but they are also funny, well-timed and interesting

@Dreadjaws 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, I never had a problem with Rian Johnson as a filmmaker. Even after TLJ, I remembered stuff like _Looper_ or his work in _Breaking Bad_ and figured that artists once in a while have flukes, particularly if they're following the instructions of people with more power. No, my problem with the guy is his attitude against the audience and his commitment to treat fans unfairly, heightened by his refusal to accept criticism of any kind. I respect his talent as an artist, but f**k him.

@kevindoris4241 4 жыл бұрын

I love how he defends his work. The only people I have seen him be rude to were compete a-holes who more than had it coming. Also Here is a fun fact just because you think the Last Jedi is flawed does not mean it is true or anyone especially the creator has any reason to agree with you.

@Dreadjaws 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevindoris4241 Aaaaaaand here it is.

@onkelpappkov2666 4 жыл бұрын

This is perfect. I am speechless. That fanboy comment blew my mind. Flawless execution. Wow.

@hazim9529 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevindoris4241 Agreed. I thought we're here to discuss Johnson's capability as a writer and film maker. In which he is a good one. We're not here to talk about his attitude. If that's the case, then you might as well hated Steven Spielberg for his egotistical personality, Stanley Kubrick for his obsession with perfectionism or Michael Bay for being compared to a Nazi.

@Dreadjaws 3 жыл бұрын

@Jinha Choi Oh, _shut the fuck up._ The only way not to see all the times Rian Johnson has unfairly attacked his critics is to deliberately ignore it. Screw you.