TheBlackRanger X if LeBron win. The title this year without a big star

@@ptbarnum2678 **then watch the video? 🤔

Kobe has better footwork, post moves, handle, better at creating space. Kobe is a better defender Kobe is a better offensive rebounder Kobe is a underrated playmaker - People think just cause you average alot of assists you're some sort of elite playmaker. Kobe better . Kobe is DA greatest of all time

Okay u won me over, we'll thought out, presented and most importantly objective good shit

TheBlackRanger X : I always say that being the best (or arguably the best) in your era (which LeBron’s is really 2012-present) doesn’t automatically qualify you to be in the GOAT conversation. Otherwise we would still be talking about George Mikan and Oscar Robertson. LeBron isn’t even top-10 in my mind. I count 10 players that I would take ahead of him in a mock all-time draft. It only gets dicey when we get to Dr. J. LeBron edges him out.

Agreed!

@@theblackrangerx530 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/brV9ZJyUvMeYYX0.html can't even score on kobe

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So you know what every nba legend thinks?🤦‍♂️

That’s not even a valid argument

Tim, Kareem Hakeem and Jordan are other top ten players with similar defensive team selections, and we have to assume both Bill R. and Wilt would also have a lot of defensive teams too. That said, Kobe's offensive bag really does set him apart and ahead with Mike, imo

Yeah cause if we talkin versatility, Draymond is better than Kobe.

@@Frazier16 so you mean you can designate dray to carry the offense? or you can put him in a position where he sets plays? bro stop it. coz kobe can do all those, including defending the top perimeter scorer of the teams he played against

@@bekimcachero4683 my point is that being more versatile doesn't make you better. Maybe I should have used a different player

@@Frazier16 yup, more versatile doesnt make you better. the game is all about what the team needs you to do to win a chip...what you're saying just prove bron is not on kobe's level, since he needed to be surrounded with superstars to win while kobe will be ok even with just good ones

I appreciate that bro! Definitely subscribe to the channel for more content! More dropping tomorrow afternoon

@@theblackrangerx530 Just subscribed keep up the great content!

Preciate the love bro! I'll be droppin something tomorrow afternoon as well

PhoraOne Sinatra Agreed 💯

I do believe that certain stars get too much hype on social media because people only see the highlights, not the messups and issues that they have in-game. Definitely check out the channel bro!

@@theblackrangerx530 i def will bro, im sick of the major sports media channels trying to push the goat convo with lebron just because having lebron in their title makes them money

Agreed, think he's a great player but he's got too many black marks on his career to step to Mike. Guys like my guy Shay Sharpe loll will lie on other stars names to boost Bron. Definitely share this video with anybody who doesn't understand the difference between these 2 players. I've seen both play, one fills the stat sheet, the other figures out a way to win the big one. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Thanks for Subbing more coming soon, definitely trying to kill silly narratives.

@@theblackrangerx530 Please do, the amount of disrespect kobes getting is just unreal.... kobe makes game winning plays that don't translate to the stat sheet and lebron on the other hand just stuffing the stat sheet. stats dont win games

Agreed, I'm just trying to figure out what topic I'll be covering next

Agreed. Couldn't have said it better. Definitely Subscribe and Check out the channel. More content dropping soon!

Willo Akaka : Are the Lakers “good?”

Lebron can also make a good team great, whereas kobe cannot make a bad team good

How? Kobe is a horrible leader you meant to say phil jackson

he left a bad team to win in Miami.....then came back to a team with 2 other all stars and the highest payroll in the NBA to win more. Jordan never had more than one other all star.....and Pippen was only an all star because he benefitted from Jordans double and TRIPLE teams. If Pippen played for the Bucks, he would have been a second team all star

Deadass frfr💯

2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Game tying or go ahead shots to take lead final 10 seconds LeBron 12-23 fg and 52% Kobe 5-22 fg and 23% Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Triple Doubles LeBron 74 > Kobe 21 Career +30 point games scoring LeBron 436 > Kobe 431 Career highs scoring Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots in nba history isn't top 8 all time player NBA top ten all time players 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabber 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Shaquille O'Neal 8. Tim Duncan 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 100% facts

@@kendranights7607 game 7 2010 kobe had 15 REBS...

Kobe game 7 23 points 15 boards and a big fat WWWWW 💜💛

Kendra Nights who has more rings even though lebron’s career is not over it doesn’t seem that bright for the rest of the way

Loll, I did come off a little harsh at the end but that was because I've seen how rabid and nasty people get when someone doesn't exalt their favorite player as the ultimate gift to mankind and they get violent as hell in the comments. As you can see, down below there are people who disagree that can voice their opinion, its just that if you get reckless I won't allow nonsense on my channel that's all. But I created this channel so that hoops fans could have a platform to speak openly about players, teams, history without coming for each other. I appreciate you clarifying in the beginning though because Agreeing just to agree is not what we do around here. Good take, triple-doubles and stats have clouded many individual's from being able to see the game on a macro level. What stats do is tell a story that a player wants you to remember and not usually how the game went. I've seen Larry Bird get doubled and avg less than 20ppg in a series but lead his team to victory because he is drawing lots of attention freeing up his teammates. These fans now are just too lazy to go watch the old games themselves and see what really happened. Hockey assists, and rotating properly are some of the many things that don't get tallied in the stat sheet that great players make happen. Timing and control of the shot clock don't show up on basketball reference and honestly just show some fans lack of understanding of the game. Rondo is a player i use to illustrate this all the time. People may think that Elfrid Payton and Rondo put up similar stats but Rondo is a master at controlling pace and seeing a play 3 steps in advance. Players like Lebron and the Westbrook of old usually fill up the stat sheet so that when things go wrong they can always say that they did their jobs. Alot of the time, they pile these points up in garbage time or when they've clearly won the game and the coach won't take them out. People do realize that in both the 81pt game and the 60+ in 3 quarters, Phil Jackson took Kobe out early... Kobe sat out the whole 4th in the 60+ in 3quarters game against the great Mavs and wasn't able to add to that stat sheet. Stats schmatz in my opinion for alot of these debates and really should only be used for a quick summary(synopsis) of a situation not deep analysis. Definitely Subscribe got more heat coming soon(Friday)!

Most definitely bro! Cannot lie watching Kobe as a kid made me really appreciate the difficulty of his moves, drive, and intangibles that he brought to the game. Gotta respect greatness lol these kids are too lazy to go back and watch tape, there are lots of full games on youtube but everybody just wants to read off stats loll.

I appreciate that bro got more heat dropping tomorrow!

@@jdsilvestri even a brain transplant won't help you figure it out. This channel might be out of your league

I would take Jordan to consistently score over Kobe but if I'm talking about point explosions and game highs I'll take Kobe. Kobe was a more volatile scorer who could/would explode in ways that made you shake your head at the fact that it's even possible to get that hot.

I appreciate that lol!

Good point, I remember when this was going on, it was almost like Phil threw the clipboard away and just gave Kobe the greenlight, that period was insane loll

@@theblackrangerx530 He also scored 43 in the following game against Golden State, 53.6 pt Avg over 5 games & more important 5 Ws

I appreciate that my brother!

I appreciate that bro!

I greatly appreciate that my man

I genuinely appreciate that bro! I put alot of love into that specific video especially loll.

Also if you go farther down the list of vids you'll see that at a certain point I didn't have the mic that I do now and some of those older videos were from when I was in highschool fooling around lol. I'm trying to get these videos tighter and tighter, definitely look out for a project or 2 tomorrow! Thanks for the love!

AGREED AND AGREED!

@@theblackrangerx530 Yessir! Oh & also the Achilles tear hurts his stats..

D'Antoni played the hell out of him that season, I remember seeing him rank 2nd in minutes in the league in his 17th NBA season...

@@theblackrangerx530 Yep that was one of Kobe's best seasons too. Damn shame to think what he could of done if he didnt get hurt. Some speculate that he could of passed Kareem. Some think Dwight might of even stayed tho I doubt it. Imo tho we had a chance at that 2013 title if Kobe didnt go down.. I'm not saying we would of made it out the west. But with the way Kobe was playing.. He wouldn't of been easy to contain. I think he knew his window for ring #6 was closing.. U could tell he put in work the offseasons b4.. It's just a damn shame we never got a Kobe vs LeBron finals.. Damn u Dirk & damn u Dwight!! 😢

Always gotta tell the truth on this channel regardless

I appreciate that bro! Thanks for checking out the channel and I tried to do a video that was purely facts and no touching on the immeasurable aspects like heart, desire, will, drive because it would be hard to use that as tangible evidence even though we know they are all there.

Lolll

You came just in time my man, that's dropping later on this week! I appreciate this and yes I've been cooking this up for some weeks now.

TheBlackRanger X PERFECT. Can’t wait bro. 🔔

Agreed and Agreed! Good take

Yessir

TheBlackRanger X what position did you play?

Played all positions but mainly SG and SF

@@theblackrangerx530 *I KNEW IT*

I appreciate the love bro! Both great players, I just believe that these 2 are not as uncomparable as people think. Some people scoff at the notion of Kobe being better bc they're too lazy to watch tape and just look at stats

My man I used to watch Chronicles alot when I was younger. Been subbed since his EARLY days I thought he was my older brother with a secret KZfaq channel but he and I see eye to eye on alot of ideologies and topics. But that is always one that I disagree with him on respectfully. He knows his stuff and thats his personal list but based on my metrics I cannot put LBJ above Kobe rn. Interesting that you point that obe out tho. Good take

He is biased. He was talking about the first 3 peat, acknowledged that Shaq won finals MVP but that Kobe played better against the much stronger western teams yet he holds that against Kobe. He acknowledges that Kobes true greatness as an all time player was during kobes last 3 straight finals, which is true to some extent, but he wants to disregard all of his earlier work. Also i dont remember if this were a case but he would bring up flat FG% against Kobe but that point tells me he doesnt know anything about basketball if he uses that talking point.

@@saberplaytop Also he claims that Kobe was not a great player until 2007-8 season and that he was only a great talent in his first 10 years in the league. That's his logic.

"Aight man peace!" I agree his disdain for Kobe is obvious and his favor for MJ is apparent but hey, Judah has enlightened and liberated my thinking more than I could thank him for. His bias against Kobe is forgiven, I laugh it off. My take is this, If we were in the army or marines, who would you prefer to lead us in afgan , iraq or syria, Kobe or Bron?

@@Arael4 kobe the kinda dude who might get us killed and lebron gon pussy out

Just to add something else in 2004 Shaq was 40 lbs overweight, not even making it to mid-court before the play was over and heading back the other way (Ben Wallace career numbers against Shaq) and Karl Malone was injured.

Is that excuses I hear?

I appreciate that bro!

I'm glad bro and I always try my hardest to stay fair

@@theblackrangerx530 that's what's up bro, keep posting, I'm subscribing now

Loll it's not about the dollars my man it's about delivering this content as real as possible!

Nah but definitely leave your thoughts about whether you agree or disagree at the end of the vid loll

@@theblackrangerx530 Just finished the video, and definitely agree with your points. In fact, you actually brought up some good concepts that I had actually not even thought about. So i learned a bit. Nice video sir!

I appreciate the feedback my man!

I appreciate that bro! Definitely we will make this channel grow and keep putting out good content! Thanks for enjoying the content my man!

All I do is edit the hell out em bro. Try to keep each clip short. It's alot of work but I haven't gotten copyrighted in a while

Stats Schmatz that's how I see it. When comparing the greats we gotta talk about skills, wins, intangibles, and the little things. Bron I love the guy on the court but he definitely covers up the trail of evidence because lazy people don't want to go watch tape of old players to see that some were better. That's why stats are so "important"

Thank you and that is definitely a fact. The media loves pushing that narrative

Thank you my man!

Agreeed! That 2017 g4 had me rollin. EVERYBODY knew lolll

Loll ayeeee this is probably the shortest most accurate depiction of the difference between the 2!!!

@dbzkhalid01

I appreciate that loll! Definitely stay tuned for more soon!

Good take, injuries are real, but I made this video excluding those to show that i don't make excuses for any player when comparing them on an in-depth level. Had to be unbiased as possible and I do think this is good insight. Thanks my man

This comment is not very good bro. Lebron did play in the same era as Kobe and Lebron dominated in that era as well.

I appreciate that my man and I appreciate you admitting that you're biased on this specific topic. There's a couple topics I am biased on as well but being able to turn it off or admit is key! Thanks for the love!

Thank you my man

Agreed my brother agreed

Good take, this just about sums it up perfectly loll

I do agree with you he should have left Clevland earlier. Kudos for that point!!

I remember watching Lebron as a kid in that 06- + era. MANNNN he was scary, dude was a freight train that literally had an unstoppable engine and frightened everyone who got on his hip. I have to give Lebron his credit because he really is an All-Time top 10-5 player no doubt about it depending on how you rank. The main reason I view Lebron's failures with a more critical eye is because I grew up watching the snowball effect of excuses begin growing for Bron. In 2009 when he lost to Dwight, both were evenly matched and ORL was without their leading scorer in Jameer Nelson. People say that CLE had no answer for Dwight that's why they lost. Well why didn't ORL not have an answer for Bron if that's the logic. In 2010 I understand. 2011 This was LBJ's opportunity to erase every bit of failure from his resume by proving that with the proper help he could win. And he failed miserably by not being versatile enough to play off-ball of Dwade who was balling out that series. I can respect anyone who has LBJ over Kobe for the reasons that you stated but when people just whip out stats and say Kobe got carried that's where I get frustrated loll. I really appreciate someone who is respectfully debating without taking pot-shots at anyone's intelligence. Good take brodie

@@theblackrangerx530 same here bruh. You present your logic eloquently. I appreciate it in particular with regard to a topic that is esentially subjective. Something you bring up which I never considered were their circumstances. Kobe had to earn his spot good as he was and played with All star talent and veterans from jump that helped him. Getting Jackson early on was huge for his career. Jax and Tex were like yup, We can mold this kid and he listened, 6 chips gets you a players ear. Remember what made MJ great was his fundementals and willingness to buy into a system (courtesy UNC/Dean Smith, which is why Zion will be special) LeBron has always been the Alpha to his detriment. You can tell he's just used to being the focal point and that hurt them in Miami in Year one, BUT that's more Spo/Riley than LeBron, think about it (1. They had to spend to sign the Big Three and basically gutted the team of any real shooting honestly 2. Riley should have coached them, winning a chip with basically a rookie coach is a stretch.) Dude didn't play college ball, never played with equal level talent (early), never learned how to truly defer, never played with a coach with Chips in the holster, never had veterans to really learn from, played for an extremely poor organization with no culture and still won chips. 🤔 Lastly: LBJ ranked #2 All time playoff performances. www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23651740/ranking-50-greatest-individual-postseasons-modern-nba-history Have a blessed day brother.

Agreed, Lebron has had way too much trouble getting out of the East with the level of talent on his squads in comparison to Kobe. Outside of MVP and just comparing raw numbers with no context, how can anyone debate for Lebron effectively?

TheBlackRanger X The Finals mvps and Mvps in general really are rediculous to look at.

by struggled against those mediocre teams in the East do you mean winning 24 series against east teams in a row?

Since 2015 explain to me how a non super team could make it to AND win the finals in either conference.

Who cares who pipes his mother? I agree with the rest.

Yessir, that man has ascended through struggles that I must give him credit for. That is greatness and I gotta respect it.

Ronnie Alston : Yes! Because that team: Shaq, Kobe, GP, and Malone should have won two titles together, maybe three if Malone had the steam.

My guy tbh you're being very emotional under the video, 5-6 ticky tack comments lol. The base of the video was built off of Facts. I don't use stats purely, made that very clear in the beginning. Saying things like Lebron and Magic are similar passers isn't a fact, but the timeline of events that I presented are. Please check yourself and I'm not going to go back and forth with you. Just leave your thoughts for constructive debate down below or don't. If I see you get emotional your comments will become invisible. Anyone who's had debate that's civil is still visible. Godbless and thanks for watching.

If u think lbj is more clutch than Kobe then ur a kid. Don't talk Kobe if u haven't seen him in real time. You look silly. Don't embarrass urself.

What quantitative analysis doesn't tell you how often has Lebron passed off game winning/tying shots because he doesn't want to hurt his percentages, ala KD style. What Kobe did was to take the shot nobody else wanted to take. You guys are also ridiculous trying to use Kobe's shooting percentage against him when he's playing really bad post injury in the last few seasons of his career. People who've seen both play knows Kobe's better.

I saw kobes first airballs from a rookie till the 60pt retirement... i also watch lebrons rookie season till today. Kobe is waaaaay better. Lebron even on the lakers team right now is still playing like hes not the best player on the lakers... he continues to look to pass to kuz, lonzo, Ingram in crunch time, like wtf r u doing ur the best player on rhe team, make something happen lol stop relying on lonzo's bricks.

I appreciate the love bro! I definitely do agree that Kobe's legacy took a major hit from the companies when he had the 2004 allegations. IP man you buggin loll. But definitely subscribe for more content. More dropping tomorrow!

I appreciate the love bro! I definitely do agree that Kobe's legacy took a major hit from the companies when he had the 2004 allegations. IP man you buggin loll. But definitely subscribe for more content. More dropping tomorrow!

I appreciate the love bro! I definitely do agree that Kobe's legacy took a major hit from the companies when he had the 2004 allegations. IP man you buggin loll. But definitely subscribe for more content. More dropping tomorrow!

Why is it a problem if he finds something funny? How does that affect you, loll stick to the hoops