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LMAO Kobe would’ve killed JR in Game 1 if he was on the Cavs

Why’d this have to be in my recommended today? Today just wasn’t the say KZfaq. RIP Mamba🐍

Lmao “how could you fathom to fight Shaq without a weapon?” Fr 😂

Let's just have Mike Korzemba pop open his 2k and he'll be able to answer the question with his deep research

LOL people saying Dom is biased is funny, Dom is a fan of Kobe and has stated there was a point in time he hated Lebron, just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they have a bias

Kobe Fans: Stats don’t matter, they don’t tell the whole story Also Kobe Fans: 5 Rings over 3, numbers don’t lie ??????????

Big kobe fan here and im pretty salty over the video overall, but i literally cannot find a way to argue with this video, its just so well argued. Props to you dom, you earned a sub

Hey Dom I’m a Kobe fan myself and I still am salty but I liked the points that you made in the video like how Kobe’s mentality worked against him sometimes. But overall I think you made a great video. I also respect how you research so much on your topics to make a good video and I respect you for that.

I lowkey wish Cleveland never drafted him. They could never put a team around him

Totally agree, Bron is the better overall player, but Kobe is obviously still one of the all time greats.

You make an incredible point in this video, but the one thing that most people seem to forget is what was expected of Kobe and LeBron when they were drafted. Kobe wasn't expected to even be in the GOAT conversation when the Lakers drafted him. The fact that he is in the conversation in that of itsself is a huge win.

"If you wanna see kobe win his 6th ring when he signs with the warriors because they're just getting everybody now" That hasn't aged well has it Oh man I never edit my comments that get a lot of likes because it kills the joke but RIP KOBE

I watched my Mavs beat both Kobe and LeBron in the same postseason...

Huge facts. A lot of people hate on the 2018 playoffs, but honestly it was one of the best ever in my opinion. We got to see one of the greatest players of all time silence ALL doubters and drag one of the worst teams in the league through the entire playoffs, dominating all challengers and showcasing why he was just so damn good. I'm glad it's more competitive this season, with Bron on the Lakers and all, but honestly I'll miss seeing the incredible power of one player taking on the entire conference and winning.

When Lebron retires we are going to realize how great he is.

2024 and Kobe still being better than Lebron

I have to give you respect for making this video, it takes some guts knowing you'll get tons of people disliking and hating in the comments. Seems in 2018 you can't share your opinion without starting a war.

I know Kobe terrorized a lot of teams, but Dom, since 2010 LeBron playing our Celtics has basically become a question in what amount of games will they be beaten.

rip the mamba, one of the greatest to ever lace em up

RIP KOBE BEAN BRYANT 💛💜 definitely never been a big fan but this was just tragic

Shout out to you Dom, this vid is amazing. Although LeBron is my favorite player ever since I started watching and playing basketball in 04 it is truly ridiculous how people are trying to downgrade Kobe and LeBron and MJ just because of the stupid argument of who the GOAT is.... why can't we just appreciate each person's greatness smh

Kobe fans get triggered

They roasting LeBron for losing to the mavs but not talking about kobe being swept by the same team

Kobe made me fall in love with basketball, but LeBron is just better! Leaving comparisons aside, we're lucky to have seen them play!

finally someone speakin up

I can't say I'm a LBJ fan, but I'm glad you brought up all those performances for LBJ because his clutch-ness is something that has always been a lil bit underrated. While on the other hand, Kobe's clutch-ness has always been a lil bit overrated. I just remember waaaaay more flame outs than signature/defining moments!

I saw a lot of old games recently about kobe and I started to think about other things that it may not be pointed in here. It's a great video and a fine job as I said in other comment, but I'm half way there because now I'm in the belief that prime Kobe is better than Lebron, but he doesn't rank higher and he's not greater. From a guy who played this game (as an semi-pro level in argentina) and won and lost finals of the local and state championships, I think that there are many things to consider when comparing players. For example the system under where they're playing. While I think there's no doubt Lebron is a better passer, Kobe (and also MJ) are underrated because of the system and what the couch and the team ask them was to score the ball, they weren't ask like Lebron to create a play or run the floor as a PG. And I have two examples to support my point: 1) In 89 (correct me the year if I'm wrong) doug made MJ play as a PG for 11 games and guess what? He had 10 triple doubles with stats that would easily top Lebron, 33.6 PPG 11.4 APG 10.8 RPG 2) James harden went from a fine season to a triple double season (almost) with only big change: Mike DiAntoni and HIS SYSTEM who allowed james to handle more the ball and his team to shoot more. Did Harden went from a fine assist player to a Magic or Oscar level in one season? NO. The system allowed him to increase his stats. The same thing can be said about many things that, to me at least, put an end to a nonsense discussion about something that it's impossible to know. For example handchecking, the pacing, and many many more things. I love your videos, but at least in my opinion, having played the game for many years and playing finals and facing many different players (skilled in so many different ways), there's no point in saying one player is the GOAT because you can't compare eras and positions. How can you said that MJ was better than Bill Russell? You can't. Because how on earth are you going to evaluate pacing, rules, context, awards that didn't existed back then, technology, and the simple fact that MJ would have not exist if not Dr. J and all the players that came before him. There's a lot of fun in comparing and trying to put one above the other, but actually there's not a single argument that can be proven to put one player above the other (I mean players that are in the GOAT tier). I've always liked how hubbie brown said it: 4 best SG, 4 best PG, 4 best SF, 4 best PF and 4 best C of all time. And if I had to make it, I would prefer to put the best five from each decade (wich to be fair, it won't be accurate). Love your vids dom, have a nice day sir

After seeing these comments I know why some people called Kobe overrated

Man the kobe stans surely won't like this

Your Ratchet and clank 3 soundtrack in the background hits me with a wave of nostalgia everytime. Especially Starship Phoenix.

Lebron outranked Kobe when he won that ring in 2016. Had Lebron only had those 2 rings with the heat, the debate between Kobe and Lebron would always end with Lebron never wining in Cleveland the same way Kobe was penalized before winning a title without Shaq.

I appreciate your honesty. I grew up in the early above the rim play era. I tend to lean towards the lone gunman, the volume shooter, the killer type. So, naturally I'd probably go with Kobe too. But as a pure player, James is it

3:24 When you and your homies talkin too much and the substitute teacher snaps and goes off on everybody

Interesting take. 🤔 I got LBJ above Kobe also for most of those same reasons. God rest his soul.

This video is relevant now. You have no idea how many times I’ve seen people say the Kobe is better than LeBron. Just because he’s dead as tragic as it is, doesn’t change his stats.

We got robbed by never seeing LeBron is San Antonio. There could not be a better team for him, ever. That system and the way they played was tailor made for LeBron. Bron on the Spurs would have at least seven rings but realistically he could have had a perfect finals record.

Come on why state the obvious. Now even more people will continue to disrespect Kobe.

Kobe fans triggered

I always enjoy your perspective. Great points.

Honestly Kobe is one of the all time greats def top 10 if not top 15. But he wasn’t too 3 like he isn’t as efficient as other players. If people only see highlights then Kobe looks unstoppable. If you see actual full games you’ll see

14:02 *_Who would've thought that would end up being a funny meme photo_* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☘☘☘☘☘

LeBron lost the 2015 finals averaging 36/13/9 Kobe won the 2002 finals averaging 27/6/5

At least your analysis is grounded in facts. There are other variables not taken into context here, though it is appreciated that your take on it is bottom line related. If only the current news channels would take your approach. Thank you for a level headed summation.

..Shannon gne bring this video to the show..Thank You Dom!

Wait, people think he’s not? Lol that’s cute

Dom2k you should make a top 10 List of the most skilled nba players of all time

Kobe took Kwame Brown and Smush Parker to the 7th seed in the wild west

"More longevity in less time played" -Dom

Both are all time greats . Can’t go wrong either way One is arguably the most deadliest offensive force ,whereas the other is the most well rounded player ever 🤷‍♂️

Oh god the comments the dislikes i can feel it

Let’s see how overrated he is: This is ALL TIME NBA RANKINGS Points per game 1. MJ - 30.12 5. Lebron - 27.13 12. Kobe - 24.99 VORP 1. Lebron - 142.60 2. MJ - 116.05 12. Kobe - 80.15 PER 1. MJ - 27.91 2. Lebron - 27.34 28. Kobe - 22.90 Win shares 2. Lebron - 249.52 5. MJ - 214.02 16. Kobe - 172.74 Box plus/minus 1. MJ - 9.21 2. Lebron - 8.86 31. Kobe - 4.55 Offensive box plus/minus 1. MJ - 7.17 2. Lebron - 7.06 17. Kobe - 4.62 Defensive box plus/minus 24. MJ - 2.05 35. Lebron - 1.79 KOBE IS NOT EVEN RANKED IN THE TOP 250 ON THE ALL TIME LIST…. Wtf lol Are we missing something here, because these are facts smh. Kobe Bryant was an Ok (not great) player and for people to have him in the conversation of the goat is mental illness at its finest, dude is so overrated that is comical, it’s really pathetic how people are delusional to facts.

2:56 Lebron looking like Thanos

As a Lebron fan, I believe Kobe is as good as Lebron in terms of his overall game. Kobe is probably the best difficult shot maker of all time. My only issue is that his shot selection sometimes hurt his impact on the game. Therefore Lebron ends up having a better impact. However, when all the hard shots go in, it makes Kobe look so unstoppable and donminant, which LBJ barely did. That impression makes Kobe so lovable. Lebron passes more when he doesn't have a good game. That's better for the team. But always playing so reasonable makes his game less exciting some time for fans who just want to see some fancy stuff. Playing right BBall when being a passer with spacing doesn't looks eyes-poping. Plus, Lebron's stiff form doesn't help much. In terms of point production from a player, adjust to pace and era, there are a few best season. I know this from Ben Taylor, the professional NBA writer. Those are Shaq's one best season, MJ and Lebron's MVP-leveled seasons, and Stephen Curry's 73 wins season. Lebron and MJ are so productive due to the circumstances they're in and their ability to help the team with so many ways. I love Kobe's game a bit more when I was a kid. As I learned more about more NBA offense more I started to appreciate how ball movement works. After that, I start to see how Lebron manipulates both teams. It's incredible. His ability to pass to everywhere with speed and precision is a cheat code that takes a more deep look to figure it out.

2019 draft, your an NBA team owner. Do you take Kobe or Lebron to have for the duration of their careers? Im taking Lebron, not even a thought.

I respect a big Kobe fan that can admit these things. Seems like Kobe fans have this strong disdain for giving credit to LeBron.

Also believe that Lebron’s 2018 playoff performance as a whole may be the best of all time, top 3 for sure

NBA need to do a poll on players from 2004-2013 and see how many pick Lebron or Kobe

Its sad you have to make a video about this.

This vid is a solid watch 5 years later😮‍💨

No signature playoff games? Torching Orlando for an entire series? Gm 7 Portland 2000, Gm 4 2000 Indiana, Game 4 2006 Phoenix. And go ask the Spurs how they feel about that statement.

LeBron James is greater then Kobe and thats coming from a Laker Fan who watched Kobe but I hate how LeBron fans (aka Nick Wright) make the narrative to absolute discredit Kobe.

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I like how you bring up Kobes worst games but wont bring up LeBron in 07 or 2011 or him quitting in 2018 in game 4

No memorable playoff moments, 48 and 16 to close out the kings in 01, the very next game 45 and 10 against the spurs, 2006 game winner, 2008 49 and 10 against denver

SEND THIS TO TROYDAN

You've opened my eyes good sir. I always had Kobe higher, but I realize now that I simply like Kobe's style of basketball better.

What a fucking great video dude, you are awesome

Thank you for setting this straight

So if lebron gets to the finals this year, what's gonna be the excuse, "Oh the wind was blowing at a 48 degree angle to the left of his hairline ofc he's gonna win" that's what people who critic lebron sound like

NBA players will say kobe is better but analytics will say lebron

This truly isn’t a question

whether it be lebron kobe or mj, learn to respect greatness! on a side note, seeing the classic wade no look assist to lebron at 7:37 gave me some hard hitting feels

I agree that Lebron is greater but, hes done more with less talent? He had to create a superteam in Miami and then another super team in Cleveland when he went back. And dont say Kevin Love is trash because hes an amazing talent, more versatile than Pau Gasol. I just think most of his teammates decline when they go to play with him because they get turned into spot up shooters.

Regular season PPG: LeBron APG: LeBron RPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron FT%: Kobe FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS: LeBron BPM: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVPs: LeBron (should have more) Playoffs PPG: LeBron APG: LeBron RPG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FT%: Kobe FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron PER: LeBron BPM: LeBron VORP: LeBron Rings: Kobe (best player on 2 of em) Finals MVPs: LeBron LeBron better player than Kobe

They shouldn’t even be in the same conversation. Lebron is far greater than Kobe.

As a Kobe fan I used to look for any reason to put Kobe over LeBron. Over time I accepted LeBron was better, although him joining the Lakers may have influenced that.

in the 04 finals kobe took 30 more shots than shaq and shaq still averaged 2 more points than kobe

Who else thinks Kobe has subliminally been trying to insert himself into the GOAT debate

This video is a great point that the person that did it first isn't the better player. I would rather appreciate players as being great but because people have to circle jerk about the greatest player, team, franchise of all time, we have to have a number one of players that can't even compete against each other.

So the two finals loses that Kobe had damaged his career but mavs finals lose and spurs lose didn’t damage lebron

*waits for the haters*

Thank you Dom.

This isnt about this video but the reason that people use the 2011 finals to shame lebron in the goat conversation is that mj would never do such a thing whereas lebron did. And thats why he is not the goat

kobe bryant is vegeta. all the skill, cunning, discipline and attitude of a warrior prince. but he aint the king

People only say Kobe is better than lebron because his game is most similar to MJs, and since mj is better than lebron they think Kobe is too lol

Most NBA players and legends pick Kobe over LeBron 🤷

This felt like watching you talk about their impacts on the media more than their impact on the court. I just don’t really understand any of your takes, but I hear you.

What makes me irritated so many times is that a lot of Kobe fans make excuses for his obvious weaknesses or shortcomings due to "hard defensive era he played" whilst also completely forgetting the fact that Lebron PLAYED in the SAME ERA and was objectively individually a more dominant player.

this gonna trigger lots

Oh boy watch out dom Kobe fans about to call you a bronsexual. Even tho you're the farthest from a LeBron fan

Some crazy fans really need to be educated

Kobe has more ring, played against Superior talent his whole career(Western conference), didn't have to jump from team to team to win, was never ever afraid to take the last shot or free throws when the game was on the line, was a GREAT defender not just when he decided to play defense but all the time, and played his heart out til the very end. By the way, even had to join team USA cuz the LeBron led team got embarrassed so Kobe came and what Happened????? U.S.A got the gold💯

income the dislikes from the delusional kobe fans

I'm taking kobe 1v1 but the team player is lebron

Kobe fan. This debate is dumb. Lebron is a flat out better basketball player than Kobe.

No matter how you wanna slice it Lebron is a better overall performer in the Playoffs, Finals, Game 7’s, and Elimination Games. It is what it is 🤷🏿‍♂️

Kobe

I’m here for the comment section 🍿

You right I’m not even go lie 😂🤦🏾‍♂️