Remember to be civil in the comments when discussing. What does the future hold for Kreese?

The real tragedy of Kreese is that prior to joining the Military he was way more heroic than Daniel, Johnny, Miguel, Robby etc. He straight up took on a giant abusive boyfriend and his goon friend without semi-mystic martial arts or a badass sensei. Two on one but he powered through and beat the odds on sheer grit.

Martin Kove is an amazing actor and his portrayal as Kreese from Karate Kid to Cobra Kai is insane. I can’t wait to see Kreese’s storyline develop in Season 5 after the amazing Season 4 finale.

IIRC Martin Kove had to be convinced: “I was only interested in doing this role if he was a multifaceted character.” "I don’t look at him as a villain,” Kove, 74, told us. “I look at him as a misunderstood character.” Looks like he got what he wanted and is pulling it off well I think.

I kinda feel like Tory is Kreese's second chance. Tory is Kreese's second Johnny you might say. Johnny got Miguel to reignite his fire and caused him to change and I very much feel that Kreese has Tory who seems to have sparked a change in him

Johnny took Kreese back, Kreese took the Dojo. Kreese took Silver back, Silver took the Dojo.

I think the idea is that Kreese is the result of depression and extreme violence He believes his teachings will help his students because of what he's been through, not that he's a good person, but that not everything is black and white

I think Tory is gonna start his redemption arc next season. He's done messed up stuff but seems like he has his own little code of honor when he told Miguel to finish off Eli after Miguel beat him for Mr Miyagi's Medal of Honor.

I think Betsy's death (the love of his life) changed Kreese from a real hero to what he has become sadly. But I think Betsy is still alive and Kreese was probably told a pack of lies by his peers, There maybe that one chance where we will finally see Betsy

The Ending of Season 4 was quite surprising. Turns out Kreese wasn't the Palpatine of the show. Silver was.

If only Miyagi met Kreese back in the 1960s. Kreese would've been the ultimate Karate Kid.

I feel like Kreese never left the jungle, cobra kai’s motto it’s fitting for the battlefield, not the civilian world.

I kinda hope Terry doesn't get screwed on this. In that "hey, man. I was at peace then you've brought me back and made me the villain". Probably have Kreese come and try to reconcile with Terry. That way, this doesn't end with a middle finger to Terry.

20:47 Back in 1984, he did agree to and never broke the deal of not attacking Daniel before the tournament.

Kreese is up there with Stingray for underrated characters. I think Stingray is a brilliant piece of writing as his character is one who is always being bullied and attacked because nothing he does is ever enough. If this happens enough you eventually crack under the pressure and either do something really stupid and wind up in the system or you stop caring and don't even try anymore. I think next season we will see people realize who they need as student or teacher to continue growing. Kreese/Tory, Daniel/Stingray, Johnny and Robbie chasing after Miguel on that father-son trip they never got only this time it's to potentially save a friend.

Honestly, IMO Stryfe is the best Cobra-Kai Tuber. I started binging all Cobra-Kai content but Stryfe was the only one I subbed to.

Kreese was the classic "cartoon villain" of the Karate Kid franchise- cold, unforgiving, and ruthless. It worked fine in the 80s but I actually groaned when he made his return at the end of Cobra Kai season 1 because I knew at that point the series would go from morally ambiguous (keep in mind DANIEL was the original antagonist of the series, doing everything he could to stop Johnny from reviving the school, though his reason was valid.) to straight up good guy/bad guy morality like was shown in the 80s. You KNEW Kreese was going to manipulate Johnny and take over the school, and his harsh treatment of the students and how toxic his philosophies were was the reason I consider Season 3 the weakest season of the series. But adding Terry to the picture in season 4 and giving Kreese a backstory, the character FINALLY evolved. He was still a villain, but he began to sympathize a lot more with his students, and the advice to Tori about fighting her own way really struck a chord with me. You could say Terry brought out the best in Kreese, while Kreese brought out the worst in Terry, due to Terry framing Kreese and taking over the dojo himself. Kreese's verbal abuse of Terry throughout the first two thirds of Season 4 kind of made this betrayal obvious, but due to the softening of his villainous character and how his philosophy clashed with Terry's (Kreese- only the strongest survives. Might makes right. Terry- Winning is the only important thing. The means don't matter as long as you win.) I actually have sympathy toward the main villain of the Karate Kid franchise, something I thought I'd NEVER have.

Dude I just saw the face of Kreese stopping Terry, the genuine fear that he has knowing how unhinged Terry is.

I didn’t realize just how closely the young actor resembles Kove

Martin Kove is a great actor I really like how he plays Kreese

Kreese actually parallels Sam a lot this season. Kreese and Sam both grow by the end of the season and end up incorporating what they were reluctant to learn earlier in the season. Both of them "do the right thing" during the fight but end up getting the short end of the stick thanks to Silver. Sam loses the fight and Kreese is arrested.

I think that Robbie throwing Miguel over the rail was a parallel to Kreese throwing his captain into the snake pit. This show is so well written!

I couldn’t wait for this video! John Kreese is one of my favorite villains of all time. He’s definitely one of the best! He’s like the Darth Vader of Cobra Kai!

I like his character change! Without going to much into detail, but there is some thought i have a longer time, even if its only a thought and can be completely wrong. Remember how much the death of Betsy hurt him. Maybe this was the start of everything. Here is my thought, like i said only a thought. Since there are so many theories about Barnes being her dad or Julie her mother: I have an other idea (only idea): Tory could be his granddaughter. Remember Kreese s girlfriend Betsy (like Tory ends with an Y) died in a car crash. Maybe she was pregnant from Kreese, but never told him since he had to go to Vietnam. She was pregnant with twin sisters, Tory s mother and aunt. Those two babies were saved in the belly of their death mother, and maybe her mom is disabled because she was cut out of Betsys belly. That landlord even asked Kreese if he was Tory s grandfather or something. It is a mystery why her mother was never shown yet...and Kreese almost saw her when he stood in the door. Kreese indeed seems to see something of himself in Tory...maybe because she is his granddaughter without knowing it. Kreese only cares about three people, Johnny who was like a son for him, Robby because he is Johnny s son, and Tory. And now it seems Tory and Robby are a couple...Kreese would love that i am sure.

hey something i feel like is worth talking about is how good the scene where miguel pulled his leg. That scene in my opinion is the best out of all of cobra kai because of how well it was made the music and the intensity were amazing. I also love how it shows how much miguel cares for johnny despite what he did the night before

Man, awesome connections you made all throughout this video! All these other Cobra Kai analysis channels lacking, for real.

Barret was such a good choice for young Kreese. He nails it.

I understand his past and issues but it does not excuse him from putting all that army bullshit into kids minds

Young Kreese: we loved him KK1, KK2, KK3 Kreese: we hated him Cobra Kai S4 Kreese: we felt bad or still hated on him.

Imagine Kreese save’s Johnny’s life and he ends up fighting Silver. This leads to Kreese getting the advantage over Silver who’s hanging peerlessly from a ledge shadowing his fight with Captain Turner. Kreese finally show’s mercy which as a result Kreese falls victim to Silver’s betrayal and Johnny witnesses this as he is recovering. This would lead to Johnny and Silver fighting to the death with Johnny winning after a hard battle and comforting his dying Sensei with sentimental words bringing Kreese ‘s arc full circle with the final scene being young Kreese meeting Betsy on the other side as Kreese passes away.

Perhaps Kreese can become a better man through chozens help and having a common enemy with Johnny, Daniel and Chozen in Silver

I wouldn't say he is an anti-hero yet. His backstory is tragic indeed and helping Kory show some good side in him, but this dude is willing to kill Johnny twice and Daniel, stole John entire career without mercy. Even though Terry beating Johnny is nothing comparable to his fight with John, but seeing Johnny beating up, make him rethink his life decision.

This is easily the very best breakdown of Kreese that I’ve ever seen. Your video should be the Rosetta Stone on Kreese’s life and intentions. Spectacular!

The main thing I wanted to see in season 4 more than anything (even Silver) was some kind of redemption for Kreese. I am so glad we got it and I think he will further redeem himself and Daniel and Johnny will help him.

This was a really good analysis of John kreese's character it got me to consider things about him i hadn't before and I think that's what a good character analysis does

Great summary, compilation, and analysis.

Thank you for making this video

I really love your videos keep it up

As soon as they showed his sympathetic backstory and teased Terry Silver I knew they were setting him up for a redemption arc. I can't wait to see it, they've done a great job with his character.

Yes been waiting for a kreese vid

Love your videos man😊

24:45 i really hope kreese will be in s6 and beyond

If your goal of the year is to do a review on every main character in cobra kai/karate kid movies, then I respect that

Another great video

I can't help but feel bad for Kreese. He may be a ruthless psychopath, but he has a good side deep down, like when he treated Johnny Lawrence like a son, and helped Tory with her home life situations. He was also framed by his best friend whom he's known for over 50 years, and he was his only friend.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who picked up on this. Surely Season 5 of Cobra Kai will have some kind of Redemption Arc

The greatest evil comes from the best intentions. Kreese certainly meant well with everything in the movies, but his methods were different. Kreese, in my opinion, represents the consequences of war as well as what happens when the wrong way of doing things is perpetuated. Season 5, I think, sees his Redemption, though maybe not fully. I think he helps Johnny and Daniel through Tory. Johnny may be with Miguel and Robby at first, but Kreese finds a way to help.

His face is priceless when he tries to scare Daniel

Amazing video! This video only made me love Kreese even more, he's done some awful things but it's clear he's a good person deep down and his character arc in season 4 was one of the best, he's one of the best characters because he's so interesting - he has so much depth to him, I cannot wait to see what direction they take him in season 5, I agree with you to some extent that Tory could help him get out of jail but I don't feel she has the authority nor the power to do so, I can see her enlisting the help of Johnny or even Amanda/Daniel to help get him out!

Amazing video you could probably do psychoanalysis video on kreese character and se how much his ptsd has influenced his character since karate kid until cobra Kai

Great job

I think we could see a redemption arc for Kreese. One way to redeem a villain is to bring in another villain who is more ruthless and unhinged, which would be Terry Silver. Kreese is ruthless, but conflicted and does what he needs to to survive. Silver on the other hand, went all in to the dark side.

I never realized how well they nailed the resemblance of his younger self

“There are two types of people in this world, those that get angry or those that get sad and that will forever affect their life

Your videos always make my day man, keep up the awesome content! :D

I'm really glad they toned down Kreese and Silver's blatant racism in Cobra Kai.

Im really looking forward to Kreese's growth in the series.

Kreese weakness in Daniel family use Samantha LaRusso (daughter) Anthony LaRusso (son) in cobra Kai train them more dangerous against their father Daniel

Kreese is the Lionel Luthor of Karate Kid/Cobra Kai. You can never tell if he's had a change of heart or not

In Cobra Kai I always think that Kreese care about Johnny like a father to a son... like a highly strict asian father....

Early on kreeses story is really quite similar to daniels the fact they both are somewhat made fun of by Johnny/David then they beat them up and take their girlfriend I just thought it was ironic how to mortal enemies are surprisingly similar

Loved what they did for kreese during the all valley finals

"Always" - Severus Snape

To me John Kreese is my favorite character. I love Kreese and he will be redeemed. This show is so nuanced. Kreese isn't a bad guy. He is a hero in his own story. BTW I appreciate the product placement at the end of the video not in the middle. That is just obnoxious! Great video. Kreese is my favorite character.

All I know is Martin Kove is freakin awesome.

Kreese probably had the best character development in Cobra Kai next to Tory. It was pretty cool to see that Kreese wasn't all villain. He didn't show it a lot but he had a heart.

Martin Love is so great, truly an amazing actor.

A man is a product of his life experiences. Kreese was a good person at heart up until his military service. Seeing your comrades killed, learning that the girl you love has died while you're about to fight to the death over a pit of snakes, killing a man and watching him fall into the snake pit.... all of this would undoubtedly have an effect on the development of your character. I see Kreese as a man who has been shaped by immense trauma.

The first scene of the Young Kreese episode totally fooled me.

I really want Martin Kove to be in season 5 and seasons past that he was just such a good actor and it was great to see him in the show and he was the first actual villain character in the show

He s an amazing character,I don t get the hate for him

I honestly don't think Kreese is that evil... :(

Kreese and Johnny have very similar intentions but Kreese is a much darker shade of grey than Johnny.

3:41 Dutch: "Tahiti?!"

kreese's problem is that he teaches military and war values/mindsets to teenagers in a karate tournament

Kreese is court ordered into therapy in exchange for early parole, comes out to join myagi do JK that would be funny as fuck though

I’m glad that Cobra Kai gives us a fuller scope on John Kreese because I really never looked at him as a villain! He was trained to survive and do whatever it took to win! John Kreese was my favorite character! STRIKE FIRST STRIKE HARD NO MERCY!!!🥋🐍🏆

I’m hoping eventually u can make one of these videos for Anthony LaRusso. I feel like that would be a good one

It's great being able to see Kreese in a different light. Nevertheless, you're painting him in a brighter light that it is _ his relationship with Johny and Silver is run by his attempts to manipulate them. But he gets beaten at it by Silver.

I didn't like him in the movies but he became my favorite character in the TV show

The thing is Miyagi and Kreese are similar. Both are soldiers who returned from the war to find their loves dead. But they get differing philosophies likely due to how they were received when they returned

do not forget he is a war hero. he saved all those POW.

I wouldn't be surprised if Kreese and Silver come to blows in season 5.

“Now who’s the loser?” Kreese asked calmly

Villian or not, what he did in Karate Kid 1 and 3, and season 3 of cobra kai was villianous as you can get.

In season 3 and 4 is where there is more detail and background on John Kreese, how he was a good man, who went down the wrong path, then in the 4th season, he was gradually showing more sympathy. He was a father figure to Robby and Tory, although Terry Silver was the Sugar Daddy to them, Kreese showed that he cared for his heart instead of the size of his wallet.

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Kreese was angry when his star pupil took second place. This is probably because Kreese is still sore about America loosing in Vietnam.

I Feel like, if they continue with this three teams angle, will end up as Chozen and Laruso, Silver and Mike Barnes, and Johnny and Kreese, since Kreese is definitly seeing the error of his ways now.

Kreese is not a villain basically he’s misunderstood very vulnerable and very unstable but then in season 4 he started changing and having sympathy for others which is actually very nice he’s trying to change and to be better person look we all do bad things but it’s better to change and start feeling bad for others I’m going to admit I like Kreese in season 4 he definitely became a sweet guy!

Martin Kove defines what it is to become a character.

Kreese was just about to get good and then he ends up behind bars. Hope he gets his turnaround.

After watching season 5 I forgot how Terry had tried to change. For a while it appears that he did before Kreese entered his life again. Although I wonder if it was just an act.

The moment where Kreese let Tory fight the way SHE wanted gave me chills!

YEAHHHHHH

Great analysis! You talk a bit too fast sometimes, but i caught the most of it.

i liked this video

I don’t think the problem with Kreese getting betrayed by Silver was that he “let his guard down” which left him “vulnerable,” though that very well could be how Kreese is processing it still, given his “no mercy” philosophy. I think it may take some time for Kreese to fully deconstruct his “no mercy” philosophy he has ingrained in himself for basically five decades now. Even now with his position in jail. I think he may at first think the problem was that he “let his guard down” with Terry and therefore didn’t see him coming, but I think if he runs into Dutch in prison and gets therapy while there, he may realize that the toxic culture of “no mercy” is what led Terry to betray him in the first place.

I kind of blame kreese in cobra kai. He had the potential to create beautiful relationships but he blew it, twice.

By the time Cobra Kai ends, John Kreese will have redeemed himself. Calling it right now.