Why Lagrangian Mechanics is BETTER than Newtonian Mechanics F=ma | Euler-Lagrange Equation | Parth G

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Parth G

Parth G

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Newtonian Mechanics is the basis of all classical physics... but is there a mathematical formulation that is better?
In many cases, yes indeed there is! Lagrangian mechanics, named after Joseph Louis Lagrange, is a formulation of classical physics that is often more convenient to use than Newtonian Mechanics.
The first concept worth knowing about is that a quantity called the "Lagrangian" is defined as L = T - V where T is the kinetic energy of the system we happen to be studying, and V is the potential energy. In this video, we see how to find the Lagrangian for a simple mass-spring system by considering the mass of the block, spring constant of the spring, and motion of the entire setup. We see how to write the kinetic energy (or more specifically the speed of the setup) in terms of the distance moved by the system.
Once we have found the Lagrangian for the system, we then see that the "big boi" equation of Lagrangian mechanics is the Euler-Lagrange Equation. This is a complicated (looking) equation that allows us to substitute in the Lagrangian, and churn out an equation of motion for the system. Now the Euler Lagrange Equation (or EL Equation) is consistent with classical Newtonian mechanics - something I'd like to show in a future video. But the important thing is that there is some calculus (normal derivatives and partial derivatives) to be done, after which we will find an equation of motion.
Now for the mass-spring system, the equation of motion could have easily been found by considering the forces acting on the system (in this case the force exerted by the spring), and saying that the sum of all the forces was equal to the net force, ma. This is essentially the same as applying Newton's Second Law to our system. And in this case, using forces is MUCH simpler. So why did we go the long way and use Lagrangian mechanics?
Well, in many other scenarios, working with forces can be very complicated and fiddly. Working with energies, which is what Lagrangian mechanics does, can be much easier. Additionally, the EL Equation is very well suited to working with multiple coordinates. For example, if an object displays motion in multiple directions, such as x, y, and z, and there are different forces acting in each direction, then with Newtonian mechanics we would have to resolve all the forces in each direction. With Lagrangian mechanics, we simply find the Lagrangian and find an equation for each coordinate - x, y, and z.
That just about covers the very basics of Lagrangian mechanics, but it's worth mentioning that it goes much deeper. For example, Noether's Theorem, which talks about the fundamental link between symmetry and conservation laws (conservation of energy, conservation of momentum, etc) is based on the EL equation. It is a very interesting look at some deep universal concepts, and it's based on Lagrangian mechanics!
For those of you interested in finding out more about the Euler-Lagrange Equation, please check out this wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E...
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@ParthGChannel
@ParthGChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, thanks so much for your support! If you'd like to check out more Physics videos, here's one explaining the First Law of Thermodynamics: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abdzi7l8us-be2w.html Edit: to answer a question I've seen a few times now, the "q" in the Euler-Lagrange equation can be thought of as a generalised coordinate. So in this instance, we replace q with x, and q(dot) with x(dot). In a system showing motion in multiple different directions, we would get multiple equations for each of the relevant coordinates. So for example a system varying in both the x and y directions, would give us an equation with x and x(dot) in it, as well as another equation with y and y(dot) in it.
@aniketkedare8
@aniketkedare8 3 жыл бұрын
Hie Parth can you make video on conservation topic. Means conservation of energy, conservation of momentum please
@rajbhatta5595
@rajbhatta5595 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on variational principle for newtonian mechanics. 😊
@elizabethmeghana9614
@elizabethmeghana9614 3 жыл бұрын
hey parth, how r u doing ? i need a textbook session in which plz tell us about the textbooks that must be read by all physics students.
@pinklady7184
@pinklady7184 3 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth meghana Inside my Physics & Applied Maths, I insert loose notes (size 8" x 6"). On them, I jot names of video titles and verbatim copy out problems and solutions from tutorials. I use notes to bookmark vital pages. Whatever chapters I am studying or revising from, I have my notes there. That makes studying a lot easier.
@alexandruokos6930
@alexandruokos6930 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome!
@RafaxDRufus
@RafaxDRufus 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until friction comes around
@lorenzodimeco3262
@lorenzodimeco3262 3 жыл бұрын
No friction in fundamental physics 😎
@Junksaint
@Junksaint 3 жыл бұрын
I just like doing the problems. Makes math more like a puzzle game
@Mayank-mf7xr
@Mayank-mf7xr 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel: Force Cooler Daniel: Generalised Force
@Testgeraeusch
@Testgeraeusch 3 жыл бұрын
not really; just write dL/dq - d/dt(dL/d \dot q) - f(t,q,dot q) = 0 and you have your lossy term f. It obviously breaks conservation of energy and momentum and may be a bit more complex to solve, but the Lagrangian method still outperforms Newtons forces in this regard.
@udbhav5079
@udbhav5079 3 жыл бұрын
Lagrangian is derived from variational principle of energy. "The path of least action"... so friction, atleast Coulomb, ain't gonna be a huge problem.
@slam6802
@slam6802 3 жыл бұрын
An even more interesting conversation is why this popped up in my recommended
@addy7464
@addy7464 3 жыл бұрын
So you dont watch physics videos?
@StuartJuggernaut
@StuartJuggernaut 3 жыл бұрын
I had a mechanics exam today lol
@d.charmony6698
@d.charmony6698 3 жыл бұрын
Currently taking Calculus!
@addy7464
@addy7464 3 жыл бұрын
@@d.charmony6698 i love calculus.....you should watch. 3blue1brown's series on calculus.
@d.charmony6698
@d.charmony6698 3 жыл бұрын
@@addy7464 Ok! Thanks for the recommendation!
@DavidMFChapman
@DavidMFChapman 3 жыл бұрын
Having studied this intimately in grad school, and applied the principles in my M.Sc. thesis, I find your explanation clear and concise. Well done!
@tiborbogi7457
@tiborbogi7457 2 жыл бұрын
Sure when you familiar with what will be "in a separate video" & "that's in for another video".
@shreyasgkamath5520
@shreyasgkamath5520 3 жыл бұрын
Parth Congratulations, your video has been added to MIT open Courser ware along with Walter Lewin lectures
@xnick_uy
@xnick_uy 3 жыл бұрын
I like the style of the video and the explanations. There's a rather relevant point missing around 5:55 : q and q-dot in L stand for generalized coordinates and their derivatives, and for the srping-mass system we chose q = x. This can also help emphasize the importance of point (3) around 7:40.
@charlesgodswill6161
@charlesgodswill6161 Жыл бұрын
i was also expecting that
@nexusoz5625
@nexusoz5625 3 жыл бұрын
"...an ideal system" me: wait that's not a spherical cow?
@murtumaton
@murtumaton 3 жыл бұрын
Something really important to keep in mind with regards to Euler-Lagrange equation: partial derivative and derivative are not the same thing! In many places partial derivatives behave as they were plain derivatives but in E-L there is a good chance they do not!
@daguaishouxd
@daguaishouxd 3 жыл бұрын
The depth of content is so well-balanced for such a short video, really enjoyed it!
@BariScienceLab
@BariScienceLab 3 жыл бұрын
Waited so long for this one! Can you do some problems from Lagrangian Mechanics?
@jreddy5234
@jreddy5234 3 жыл бұрын
I came here from Walter Lewins playlist of classical mechanics . Your video was added in that playlist
@zainabhussain3887
@zainabhussain3887 3 жыл бұрын
Walter lewin✨
@arenthesium6253
@arenthesium6253 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@multician9730
@multician9730 3 жыл бұрын
And there is our Andrew Dotson who solves Projectile motion with Lagrangian formalism.
@of8155
@of8155 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@user-ox5ml5ee9v
@user-ox5ml5ee9v 3 жыл бұрын
Overkilling a simple problem
@ParthGChannel
@ParthGChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fair and valid lol, love Andrew's work
@user-ox5ml5ee9v
@user-ox5ml5ee9v 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParthGChannel i haven't yet studied lagrangian mechanics (by the end of this semester i will) but the first time i understand what it is, was after watching his video
@physicing
@physicing 3 жыл бұрын
Last week, I got my M.Sc in physics. I wonder why I'm here after all the hard work :D Great content btw.
@mat730ify
@mat730ify 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@nasifkhan3159
@nasifkhan3159 3 жыл бұрын
congratulations
@maxwellsequation4887
@maxwellsequation4887 3 жыл бұрын
Now stop watching youtube and get a phd
@RobManser77
@RobManser77 3 жыл бұрын
I got my BSc 22 years ago, but I’m still watching these videos, reading books etc. 😃 I had about two or three years away from it, but if you love Physics, you’ll always love physics. 😊 I found Uni very rushed and there are loads of subtleties, connections and historical contexts I’ve learnt since. I’ll probably still be watching these videos in another 22 years. 😊
@zhaghaan
@zhaghaan 3 жыл бұрын
I got my M.Sc. in physics in 2007, and an M.Phil. a year after. I also cleared the NET equivalent of my state (TN SET) and am working as an Assistant Professor of Physics for the past 11 years... and here I am... watching this video... It just fun... and rekindles my love for physics... also, I believe I have something to learn from everyone, no matter how small it is... Best wishes...
@dcklein85
@dcklein85 3 жыл бұрын
This is what a master looks like when explaining something. Took you 10 minutes to explain what my professors took hours.
@nahometesfay1112
@nahometesfay1112 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh he didn't even tell us what q was... Don't get me wrong I appreciate this very quick intro to the subject, but professor's tend to give much more thorough explanations. The real issue is lectures aren't a good way to learn complicated concepts for the first time.
@PluetoeInc.
@PluetoeInc. 3 жыл бұрын
@@nahometesfay1112 excellently put
@darrellrees4371
@darrellrees4371 3 жыл бұрын
q is the generalized positional coordinate in question (this corresponds with x in his one dimensional example). In general there is one of these equations for each independent spatial coordinate in the system. One of the outstanding (and convenient) features of the Langragian approach is that all of these equations take the same form regardless of the coordinate system used (e.g. Cartesian, spherical, cylindrical, etc). There is obviously a lot more to this than that which can be presented in a ten minute video, but this is a an excellent short explanation and introduction.
@-danR
@-danR 3 жыл бұрын
Did he satisfactorily qualify his use of the word 'better', and why 'better' in all-caps is justified beyond the requirements of bait, and that LM can be derived from first principles without any NM? That kind of 'better'? Or to be more clear, could Lagrange have developed LM had he been contemporaneous with Newton?
@yamahantx7005
@yamahantx7005 3 жыл бұрын
@@-danR Langrangian, and Hamiltonian, are better in the sense that if the system can be solved with 2 variables, you can more easily end up with 2 variables. Imagine 2 weights attached with a string. The string passes through a hole in a table, where one weight is hanging, and the other is spinning in a circle on the table. This looks like a 3d problem, but it's not. It's a 2d problem. You can perfectly represent it with 2 variables(length of string from one weight to the hole, and angle of the weight on the top of the table with respect to some 0 angle).
@jjohn1234
@jjohn1234 3 жыл бұрын
You have explained this very well, I understood it without having had very advanced calculus, only integration and derivatives. So good job!
@vutruongquang3501
@vutruongquang3501 3 жыл бұрын
Great Explanation. The point is you kept everything simple while still useful and let us see its potential, definitely subcribed
@owen7185
@owen7185 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen any of your videos Parth, and it's a straight up subscribe for me. I like people who can "really" explain, and enjoy what they do
@lukasjuhrich503
@lukasjuhrich503 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! this channel is a great find. Can't wait to see the video on Noether's theorem!
@jishnun4537
@jishnun4537 3 жыл бұрын
Wow being an msc student this is easily the best introductory explanation i have heard . Keep going forward u r a great teacher 👍
@rc5989
@rc5989 3 жыл бұрын
Parth, your videos are great! You have gotten so good at this!
@ashishbalaya4720
@ashishbalaya4720 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Lovely!! Very well explained, Parth. I'd studied this long ago and was trying to recall what the Lagrangian was all about, and you explained it so well. Thank you!!
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque
@KeithCooper-Albuquerque 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Parth. I just found your channel and watched this very informative video on Lagrangian Mechanics. I dig your approach to physics and have just subscribed! I'm trying to catch up on math and physics since I'm now retired. I look forward to learning from you!
@ERROR204.
@ERROR204. 3 жыл бұрын
This was the best physics video I've watched in a while. Great video Parth
@rafaeldiazsanchez
@rafaeldiazsanchez 4 ай бұрын
You nailed it, you delivered exactly what I was looking for. If all your videos get to the point and are as clear as this one, I have here plenty of things to enjoy.
@jimmygervaisnet
@jimmygervaisnet 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and very well explained. Glad YT recommended it.
@amyers2141
@amyers2141 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the clarity of your presentation! You have natural teaching skills.
@bladebreaker5858
@bladebreaker5858 3 жыл бұрын
Where have u been for these many days, bro ur videos are a nerd's dream come true.
@jorehir
@jorehir 3 жыл бұрын
Glorious explanation. I can only dream of having professors this effective at my uni...
@girirajrdx7277
@girirajrdx7277 3 жыл бұрын
Popped up in my recommendation and changed my life..thank you yt!
@dienelt5661
@dienelt5661 3 жыл бұрын
Hamiltonian mechanics : why doesn’t anyone love me :(
@radusadu
@radusadu 3 жыл бұрын
Normal people: Because no one wants to solve two differential equations when they could just solve one. Me, an intellectual: I like ZZ Top
@johnpapiewski8232
@johnpapiewski8232 3 жыл бұрын
"He got his own musical! Ain't that enuff?"
@jceepf
@jceepf 3 жыл бұрын
Not true, I use it all the time. In Hamiltonian mechanics you have a greater freedom in choosing transformations. So it is used a lot in Astronomy and Accelerator physics (my field). But it does come from the Lagrangian ultimately. In Lagragian mechanics, the minimization principle makes it clear that you can used all sorts of variables for x,y and z. But in Hamiltonian mechanics, the equivalent of dx/dt becomes a variable of its own. As long as you make transformations that preserves the so-called Poisson bracket, things are still "Hamiltonian". You could go back to the Lagrangian any time...... ALso, first quantization, ie, Schroedinger, is easier with the Hamiltonian. Poisson brackets turn into commutators. In second quantization, ie field theory, then the Lagrangian resurfaces. Clearly these are complementary methods,
@ilrufy7315
@ilrufy7315 3 жыл бұрын
@@jceepf what you say about the freedom to choose canonical coordinates and its usefulness is true, but be advised that it is not always true that you can go back and forth from Lagrangian to Hamiltonian mechanics. Constrained systems, like the free relativistic point particle in spacetime formulation, require a more careful analysis (initiated by Dirac, quite unsurprisingly, and finished by Tulczijew).
@jceepf
@jceepf 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilrufy7315 true. I was wrong to say that it is always possible.
@aa-lr1jk
@aa-lr1jk 3 жыл бұрын
Another gem found in youtube.
@edmund3504
@edmund3504 3 жыл бұрын
Just started learning about Lagrangian mechanics in my Mechanics I class... Really cool stuff! Great video :)
@benkolicic3593
@benkolicic3593 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Very well explained. Really liked the key points at the end, find myself finishing maths videos and not coming away with anything. Thanks
@jeremiahhuckleberry402
@jeremiahhuckleberry402 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes KZfaq's algorithms recommend videos from content creators that are actually quite good, such as this one by Parth G. Quick and concise , highlighting the most important questions that a student might ask, without dumbing anything down. Right up my alley, Mr. G.
@robertschlesinger1342
@robertschlesinger1342 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. Parth is a brilliant explainer.
@shawman7801
@shawman7801 3 жыл бұрын
currently in a robotics major and lagrangian mechanics is probably the coolest thing i have learned
@rahuldwivedi1070
@rahuldwivedi1070 3 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are good.. Keep up the good work👍🏻
@JASMINEMICHAELASC
@JASMINEMICHAELASC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your well explained videos that always helps me picture and understand my physics courses better.
@raymc26
@raymc26 3 жыл бұрын
Parth G, Thank you so much for this wonderful video! Please make a series on Calculus of Variations.
@Rory20uk
@Rory20uk 3 жыл бұрын
This video really helped push back my ignorance - mainly to show there is so much more I am ignorant of than I realised. A great video that helped make complex concepts approachable.
@sumeshrajurkar5922
@sumeshrajurkar5922 3 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos. Great if you can make video on practical problems based on the theory in each case.
@Redant1Redant
@Redant1Redant 3 жыл бұрын
Surely this is one of the best explanations of the Lagrangian on KZfaq. Although it’s not detailed it’s it’s coherent and it’s a great overview of what is really going on. I’ve tried for years to understand it now I feel like I’m actually getting it. Thank you!
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation - very clear and easy to follow!
@elizabethaugustin5494
@elizabethaugustin5494 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE U PARTH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS TOPIC .
@RoboMarchello
@RoboMarchello Жыл бұрын
Ayyyy! Thank for your video, man! Watched few videos about Langranian Mechanics every each of them gives different view of it. Thank you
@IanGrams
@IanGrams 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, thanks Parth! I'd always heard of Lagrangians and Hamiltonians in the context of QM but never got around to learning what they actually represent. Your explanation and example definitely helped me get a better understanding of the concepts: a nonphysical but useful mathematical tool and the total energy of a system. I was exited to hear Noether's Theorem is based upon Lagrangians, too. I really wish more people knew of the brilliance of Emmy Noether, so I'm glad this may have introduced some to her work and name for the first time. If you've not already seen it, I really enjoy this message Einstein wrote to Hilbert upon receiving her work: Yesterday I received from Miss Noether a very interesting paper on invariants. I'm impressed that such things can be understood in such a general way. The old guard at Göttingen should take some lessons from Miss Noether! She seems to know her stuff.
@vladimirkolovrat2846
@vladimirkolovrat2846 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video very much. You're concise and clear, and filter out irrelevant mathematical complexity to make an important point. Fantastic.
@anomalousnessness
@anomalousnessness 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Parth!
@physicslover9912
@physicslover9912 Жыл бұрын
this is the first video of you I saw, And your channel just got a new subscriber
@englishinenglish3473
@englishinenglish3473 3 жыл бұрын
It was amazing , thanks KZfaq for recommending such an astonishing video 🙃
@alogutz
@alogutz 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Amazing video, man.
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation, everything is clear and elegant and surprising!
@robakmd
@robakmd Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and explanation. I have read and listened to number of presentations by others but none as understandable as yours. Thank you and keep it up.
@franciscomorales2472
@franciscomorales2472 3 жыл бұрын
8:03 The blue and orange lamps in the back are a vibe
@Hepad_
@Hepad_ 3 жыл бұрын
I remember how amazed I was at how usefull Lagrangian mechanics are dealing with complicated mechanics problems, when I learnt about them.
@blaisestark6110
@blaisestark6110 3 жыл бұрын
Pure brilliance in your explanation.
@neil6477
@neil6477 3 жыл бұрын
I find it fascinating that although the L doesn't represent anything physical - at least not obviously so - it sort of hints at a much deeper underlying structure to what we perceive and analyse. Brilliant video Parth. Thanks for your work.
@AngadSingh-bv7vn
@AngadSingh-bv7vn 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to learning more about lagrangian mechanics with you sir
@calebduke2832
@calebduke2832 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why this was in my recommended but subscribed! Great job on the video. Wish I had this in Physics 2 last year.
@ilikemorestuff
@ilikemorestuff 3 жыл бұрын
Very well researched and presented, thank you.
@theramblingphysicist710
@theramblingphysicist710 3 жыл бұрын
Parth, you're the best!
@habibaakter6935
@habibaakter6935 7 ай бұрын
Wow!! You explained it in the simplest way!! Hats off, man
@katiatzo
@katiatzo 3 жыл бұрын
As always...hats off Parth !
@patricialeftwich3140
@patricialeftwich3140 3 жыл бұрын
This is so absolutely mind-blowing and well explained. This is incredibly well explained! Bravo. Thanks for sharing this with us.
@RiyadhElalami
@RiyadhElalami 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have never learned about the Lagrangian in relation to Mechanics. Very cool indeed.
@patricialeftwich3140
@patricialeftwich3140 3 жыл бұрын
@@RiyadhElalami Agreed! I love this discussion, and that it includes applications. It would be interesting to see an experiment comparing the two in some sort of physiological manner.
@mathranger3586
@mathranger3586 3 жыл бұрын
Great video sir I just completed my course in classical mechanics but Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics were not included.. Now I will learn this from u❤️
@davidsanjenis2778
@davidsanjenis2778 3 жыл бұрын
great content! simple and knowledgable! :)
@starkendeavours7072
@starkendeavours7072 3 жыл бұрын
Feeling blessed, this awesome video came on my recommendation. Lovely Explanation
@joemyk
@joemyk 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. Keep the good work going.
@saqlainafroz6999
@saqlainafroz6999 3 жыл бұрын
Your video are so informative and helpful... They keep my eagerness high to lear more
@lujhanquinonez3816
@lujhanquinonez3816 3 жыл бұрын
Really good😍 I'd surely watch a lot of your very clear and satisfying videos
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff -- and a relief to have the hope of getting Hamiltonian and Lagrangian under control, if not today maybe in due course!
@gravimagswnforce9123
@gravimagswnforce9123 Жыл бұрын
all your videos are very well explained. thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@mayurvalvi13
@mayurvalvi13 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation I loved it ! New sub 👊
@IterativeTheoryRocks
@IterativeTheoryRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Marvellous! Now I want more details!
@ishaanparikh485
@ishaanparikh485 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the scenario. They're certain times when thinking of stuff vectorally allows you to make quick approximations
@michaelyyy2872
@michaelyyy2872 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Bringing in the Hamiltonian explanation helps forming the picture in my "trying to catch up" head.
@saragrierson2440
@saragrierson2440 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your content. I'm hoping to study Physics at a higher level and I find your videos useful 🙂
@principlesofphysicsi2636
@principlesofphysicsi2636 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear! I love this video.
@danushtv1807
@danushtv1807 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Parth
@GalileanInvariance
@GalileanInvariance 3 жыл бұрын
Nice introduction to LM ... An important point which was overlooked is the way in which LM can incorporate generalized forces (which would appear as extra terms in the E-L equation). Such forces must be taken into account when some physical forces acting on the system are not conservative (and therefore not expressible via potential energy). Such forces also are especially convenient/useful for assessing relevant constraint forces.
@tanaymahadeokar2094
@tanaymahadeokar2094 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Parth! Would love if you made a video on string theory. By the way these concepts helped me a lot!!!!
@sunrazor2622
@sunrazor2622 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that refresher!
@prashantlale4976
@prashantlale4976 3 жыл бұрын
well that was really clever thank you parth bhaiya for telling me this fun physics
@Lucky-df8uz
@Lucky-df8uz 3 жыл бұрын
I love you dive into the math thank you for this channel!
@maxfriis
@maxfriis 3 жыл бұрын
Nice clear explanation. Good job.
@theprofessor5127
@theprofessor5127 3 жыл бұрын
Parth,where would I be without you!
@maus3454
@maus3454 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Very good and clear explanation
@virabhadra2
@virabhadra2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, mate, for the very transparent explanation!
@rafaellisboa8493
@rafaellisboa8493 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot, I really liked the way you explained it in this video.
@The_NASA_GUY
@The_NASA_GUY 3 ай бұрын
Really great video!! 👏👏👏 You have the gift of communication.
@ZenPossum
@ZenPossum 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, legendary.
@wkgmathguy218
@wkgmathguy218 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Liked and subscribed!
@tanmaytripathy5757
@tanmaytripathy5757 3 жыл бұрын
sir you said that lagrangian doesn't have a physical significance but can we say it is just the excess amount of energy within the system to perform work , synonymous to the concept of gibbs free energy in thermodynamics .....
@jonsvare6874
@jonsvare6874 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting connection. My intuition is no, since in thermodynamics one cares about the change in (Gibbs free) energy, whereas the Lagrangian is a total, sign sensitive quantity of energy, and hence is usually equivalent up to an arbitrary constant. It is my understanding that the Lagrangian's significance is in all the equation it features in (i.e. the Euler Lagrange equation), which is a rate of change equation--hence killing the arbitrary constant if it were ever included. I suspect that neither the Lagrangian nor the Action (hitherto undiscussed) have any direct physical significance to the system--instead, they can be interpreted as tools used to arrive at the correct equations of motion (which are the things which themselves obviously have a ton of direct significance).
@HsenagNarawseramap
@HsenagNarawseramap 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a scalar representation of the phase of the system in the phase space
@jeremyc6054
@jeremyc6054 2 жыл бұрын
I would add that the Lagrangian really shines when you're dealing with a problem with constraints. For example, a particle constrained to ride along a curved track (like a rollercoaster). Or the double pendulum (one pendulum hanging from another), in which the coordinate of the bottom pendulum bob depends on the position of the upper one. In these sorts of problems, Newtonian mechanics gets bogged down in dealing with coordinate changes and interdependences, and also dealing with which forces are "constraint forces" like normal forces and tension which hold the particle(s) to travel along the allowed path. But the Lagrangian is much simpler to write down in both cases (since it only depends on the magnitudes of the velocities - directions don't matter! - and whatever functional dependence the potential energy has on position).
@aki3774
@aki3774 3 жыл бұрын
Great intuitive explanation!
@johnhebert3855
@johnhebert3855 2 жыл бұрын
This brings me back 50 years ago when first being introduced to the subject and walking back to the dorm knowing I must be the dumbest guy in the world. Thanks for bringing me back to those memories.
@austintexas6392
@austintexas6392 2 жыл бұрын
Currently going through this now. Glad to know people are the same regardless of time frame.
@praharmitra
@praharmitra 3 жыл бұрын
Squiggly L and H are usually used for Lagrangian and Hamiltonian densities which are slightly different from Lagrangians and Hamiltonians.
@zhelyo_physics
@zhelyo_physics 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video : ) Thanks.
@ernestschoenmakers8181
@ernestschoenmakers8181 2 жыл бұрын
L=T-U can be derived from D'Alembert's principle of virtual displacement or virtual work. Concerning the Euler-Lagrange equations, this is only applicable to systems where FRICTION is NOT involved. If there are systems with FRICTION then you have to add the Rayleigh dissipation function to the E-L equations.
@yashmithmadhushan888
@yashmithmadhushan888 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. this video is very useful for me.
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