Why LeBron James is peaking as a passer in 2020

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Thinking Basketball

Thinking Basketball

Күн бұрын

LeBron James is slowing down to Father Time, and yet his passing is arguably better than ever. Is LeBron the best passer in the league in his mid 30s? What makes him so successful as a playmaker? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report examine the strengths and weaknesses of the LA Lakers star as a passer, while incorporating analytics & stats to assess his passing impact.
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@cutekitten9856
@cutekitten9856 4 жыл бұрын
"It's possible LeBron might even lead the league in assists..." Yup.
@phantacarrytemari
@phantacarrytemari 4 жыл бұрын
yo he really called that shi das craaazy
@kwiechufithu
@kwiechufithu 3 жыл бұрын
He saw it coming.
@redskullz1249
@redskullz1249 3 жыл бұрын
That's when I hit subscribe.
@Roberttt314
@Roberttt314 3 жыл бұрын
20/20 VISION
@mikemcglone4382
@mikemcglone4382 3 жыл бұрын
@@redskullz1249 on everything
@hazemibrahim7707
@hazemibrahim7707 4 жыл бұрын
Highest quality basketball content on youtube.
@Joshsclips
@Joshsclips 4 жыл бұрын
for sure
@brianb.8028
@brianb.8028 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Dime Drop. They both have really good content
@thomasdantas
@thomasdantas 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikael I actually tend to agree with his Jokic stance. He's an unreal/unique talent to be that good without NBA-average athleticism.
@yassinekhedid345
@yassinekhedid345 4 жыл бұрын
@Mikael Or maby you just hate Jokic and you're the one that gets delusional with your hate :) I've never heard him say anything biased about Jokic..
@rygesa
@rygesa 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. BBallbreakdown masquerades like its TB but Coach Nick turned into a GS hater in the end like everyone else
@johnharris8872
@johnharris8872 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron is the only non-guard top 10 in assists. Also the only player in history to be top 10 in points *and* top 10 in assists
@muhammadmousa4192
@muhammadmousa4192 4 жыл бұрын
He could finish top 30 in rebounds too which is insane. Truly a once-in-a-lifetime player.
@DrMuffin1080
@DrMuffin1080 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s insane tbh.
@samuelkeay6560
@samuelkeay6560 4 жыл бұрын
not even a lebron fan but damn gotta respect greatness
@Antbeast23
@Antbeast23 4 жыл бұрын
Top 15 in steals too lol
@tyreefreeman7450
@tyreefreeman7450 4 жыл бұрын
Antbeast23 I was just about to ask that ! Where’s he in blks ?
@frostedfakes9570
@frostedfakes9570 4 жыл бұрын
This is the part of his game that used to be very underrated
@johnnyboi331
@johnnyboi331 4 жыл бұрын
people choose to ignore it cause they didnt want lebron fans to have something over MJ
@TranquilAura77
@TranquilAura77 4 жыл бұрын
They dont know basketball, because if they did they would hold passing in high regard.
@libraalibaba
@libraalibaba 4 жыл бұрын
None of this is overlooked we all know how great he is. But the talent level around him makes it all the more easy and attainable.
@joshliggins2260
@joshliggins2260 4 жыл бұрын
lol what??? in hs they literally used to say passing was one of his best attributes if u go back and watch those games.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@libraalibaba nothing is easy
@waitwhat2052
@waitwhat2052 4 жыл бұрын
"LeBron james is entering his twilight years" 😭
@AmanSingh-bt1rx
@AmanSingh-bt1rx 4 жыл бұрын
Our childhood is over 😭
@abhimanyupatil1148
@abhimanyupatil1148 4 жыл бұрын
I was 3 months old when he was drafted. Now I’m 16.
@deandrepage1048
@deandrepage1048 4 жыл бұрын
Fans of other teams pray this is the season Lebron James grows old & tired, ON A REVENGE TOUR. 😀😀😀 A fair degree of LOAD MANAGEMENT will be exercised this season to save energy for the Playoffs. Anthony Davis & Rondo have their own Team Chemistry separate from Rondo.
@Hilight277
@Hilight277 4 жыл бұрын
He got a few more peaks though
@coolnesss16
@coolnesss16 4 жыл бұрын
@@abhimanyupatil1148 I was already 11 when he was drafted, 27 now
@HighStakesBBall
@HighStakesBBall 4 жыл бұрын
Ive always known LBJ to be a great passer, but seeing his methods dissected really show he is legendary with this shit.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of old heads try to argue that Bird was a better passer. I just don't know how you can argue: the tape shows Lebron is on Magic's level and has been there for a LONG time while scoring at a high clip.
@Josh-sk5xd
@Josh-sk5xd 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called having AD etc while being surrounded by shooters everywhere along with playing in an era that has space up the wazoo lol!
@ajdaking507
@ajdaking507 3 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sk5xd spacing helps, but if you aren't a great passer you won't be able to fully take advantage of it
@eurofam7475
@eurofam7475 2 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sk5xd Magic Johnson had Kareem and Worthy/Stockton had Malone/Nash had Amar’e/CP3 had Blake/Rondo had KG/Pierce and Ray but u not ready to have that convo tho
@captaintre44
@captaintre44 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sk5xdthat’s every great passer. Magic had Kareem as his big man. AC green, Michael Scott, James worthy. Stockton had Malone and shooters. It’s almost like majority of the all time great passers had a great big man and shooters 🤷🏿
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 жыл бұрын
Already know ima learn something new
@Gabriel-dr9ru
@Gabriel-dr9ru 4 жыл бұрын
Comment 2
@DestinRugers.S
@DestinRugers.S 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I love his videos. He just needs new thumbnails
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 4 жыл бұрын
If you show a Lebron hater this, they'd only see the 3 clips of missed passes.
@nickiii2458
@nickiii2458 4 жыл бұрын
Just sent this to one of my buddies who is an avid LeBron hater. I will update you on his reaction.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 4 жыл бұрын
They should be known as the real "Bronsexuals" since they analyze Lebron's game and talk about him so much even when he's not part of the conversation
@I3ucket.
@I3ucket. 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrE_ I hate the term "Bronsexual" it's so fking dumb and lazy you can easily tell who's just a hating 9 yo if they say that
@chrissullivan6572
@chrissullivan6572 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickiii2458 Please and Thank you.
@jdslin
@jdslin 4 жыл бұрын
DON'T DO IT SKIEUPPP
@raisulb
@raisulb 3 жыл бұрын
“Lebron will lead the league in assists “ it’s crazy how far in advance he called it
@kronmeicrumbs
@kronmeicrumbs 3 жыл бұрын
People say the stat and analytics geek don't know the game, but this guy's prediction's are spot-on simply by studying numbers.
@howardhuang8433
@howardhuang8433 4 жыл бұрын
A month later and LeBron is leading in assists this season. We don't deserve this channel.
@vmrabello
@vmrabello 3 жыл бұрын
a year later and lebron finished the season as the assists leader... amazing
@Josh-sk5xd
@Josh-sk5xd 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called playing with AD and being surrounded by shooters in a space up the wazoo era.
@jshonsmith3399
@jshonsmith3399 3 жыл бұрын
@Josh casual take. His passing attributes are so very clearly better than they have ever been whether AD is there or not it doesn’t matter
@Josh-sk5xd
@Josh-sk5xd 3 жыл бұрын
@@jshonsmith3399 Casual take. You are simply wrong lol. In this era, everything is spread wide open with tons of spacing which makes passing a whole lot easier especially when you have a dominant big like AD on your team and you’re playing in a small ball era
@itsxtray
@itsxtray 3 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-sk5xd lebron's been a great passer his whole life tho so idk what your point is? And even when the nba wasn't as spaced out as it is today (his first cavs stint) he was still a great passer
@davidmamet7969
@davidmamet7969 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron is a rare forward who is among the best passers to ever live...and he's already the playoffs all time leading scorer and could break Kareem's record. That's why he is in GOAT debates
@sticky-fingers
@sticky-fingers 4 жыл бұрын
He's in GOAT debate because he's the best player of his generation. He's not IMO because "the Decision", because 2007/11/14/18 Finals where he didnt take over as much as he should have.
@MatthiasG1899
@MatthiasG1899 4 жыл бұрын
@@sticky-fingers 2007 he was 22, 2011 I'll give it to ya, 2014 he played great but his team was getting pretty bad and Spurs were an all-time team, 2018 wtf man, he carried bums to the finals, lost game 1 with 51 and still averaged like 35
@sticky-fingers
@sticky-fingers 4 жыл бұрын
@@MatthiasG1899 2007 yeah he was young and I would not mention those Finals if he played at the same level that he played in previous rounds of eastern conference. But what did the Spurs ? Cut his path to basket and forced him to shoot ... and he was shooting awful. 2011 well, at least we're agree. 2014 he made his stats, but when the games were over, he wasnt playing great at all in fact in you (re)watch the games. 2018 he made a fantastic game 1, then disappeared in OT and never came back mentally.
@MatthiasG1899
@MatthiasG1899 4 жыл бұрын
@@sticky-fingers I mean that 2014 Spurs team triple teamed him and 2018 I can't bring myself to hold that against him, he carried bums to the finals, played ridiculous minutes in his 15th year and then ran kind of out of steam.
@jetmirlekiqi7963
@jetmirlekiqi7963 4 жыл бұрын
@@MatthiasG1899 exactly. How many nba players can carry that 2018 team to the finals? probably not even Leonard.
@ghost.patrols
@ghost.patrols 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron could've been a QB in another life, that release and anticipation is beautiful to see.
@krunkformula
@krunkformula 3 жыл бұрын
He could be the QB and the WR. Truly special talent
@creativepseudonym9872
@creativepseudonym9872 3 жыл бұрын
@@krunkformula True. He could throw AND catch the ball...
@eboy4216
@eboy4216 3 жыл бұрын
He actually used to play football
@ILoveCostcoPizza
@ILoveCostcoPizza 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron maybe getting slower but he is also getting wiser with age. He knows his body isn't the same as it use to be but he is adapting to it by becoming a floor general. Becoming a point forward will increase his career in the NBA and he might play until he is 40. Kareem took care of his body and mastered the sky hook. The Sky hook let him take less abuse because he didn't have to jump very high, which was easy on his legs. Lebron is also taking care of his body but just like Kareem had his Sky hook, Lebron has his passing. Lebron doesn't have to smash the boards like he used to and often plays outside the paint until he is sees an open to the basket or an open player.
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, he just dropped 30 PPG, so he's clearly got some more gas in the tank.
@ILoveCostcoPizza
@ILoveCostcoPizza 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharifbrown3567 Yea still one of the best but not as athletic as he was when he was young. Still genetic freak though to be playing better then most young players in the NBA right now
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveCostcoPizza I'd love to see how 2009 or 2013 Lebron would abuse the spacing of Today. I could legitimately see a 35-10-10 season being put out if he had a team of 3 and D players with a good in and out Big Man
@ILoveCostcoPizza
@ILoveCostcoPizza 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharifbrown3567 if you have the maturity and experience of Lebron right now and the athleticism of Lebron 10 years ago, IMO, he would beat Micheal Jordan as the GOAT and probably have as many titles as Bill Russell but I guess you can say that about any all time top 10 players of the NBA.
@sharifbrown3567
@sharifbrown3567 2 жыл бұрын
@@ILoveCostcoPizza I feel like the hypothetical really only applies to LBJ, since his Peak Athleticism doesn't match up with his Peak IQ and Fundamentals. His Passing Peaked in 2020 while his Verticality and Speed Peaked in 2009. His shooting and post moves is always improving as well.
@escamunicha4276
@escamunicha4276 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the tracking simulation of Steve Nash. It would probably be a circle around the dot.
@fastballfilms4214
@fastballfilms4214 4 жыл бұрын
or jason williams "White Chocolate"
@krunkformula
@krunkformula 3 жыл бұрын
That tracking simulation really displays lebrons greatness. But yea nash would have a perfect circle fa sho that man was insane
@shenielgarcia
@shenielgarcia 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most under rated basketball channel on youtube. I love the way you explain everything and make stuff very simple to understand with graphics and dialogue. Shoutout to you guys who make it happen! Keep up the great work, I'll continue to do what I can to spread the word.
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a series on every franchise's greatest team. I remember, in one of your podcasts, you said that the 2018 Rockets were better than roughly 50% of the championship teams in NBA history. Maybe we come to find out that a franchise's greatest team doesn't coincide with the team that won a title for said franchise, like the 18 Rockets vs the 94 or 95 Rockets for example.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 4 жыл бұрын
2018 rockets were so good. The closest thing to the warriors that year. BUT, I feel like they were only made to beat the warriors. Meaning that I believe Cleveland had a chance against the Rockets that year.
@RonRyder
@RonRyder 4 жыл бұрын
If the Warriors hadn't existed, they would have rings at this point.
@SethKasso
@SethKasso 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrE_ I can see that point of view. A player with the strength and speed of LeBron would have punished them hard.
@wrendemartino-smith446
@wrendemartino-smith446 4 жыл бұрын
That Cleveland team had no defense though and the Rockets were loaded with great defenders between, Tucker, Paul, Capela, and Ariza
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonRyder Not surely I think (though of course 2018 would have been their best year in every way, because of their form, so peak Harden-CP3 teams Rockets, and of the others too and without the 4 all stars 2 mvps Warriors, but especially the most relevant one, their Finals opponents's one, so year 15 Lebron having to carry cadavers till the end and for 4 gamges/7 games), definitely not their past years when against Lebron with the good past years Cavs supporting cast before 2018, but even as a one man army in 2018 Lebron would have still had a chance and the Rockets would have it hard against him still, or at least definitely better than his odds against the most stacked superteam of all-time, but yeah, those Rockets were over everyone and would have had a very good shot at the title if vs that obliterator form Lebron but on the "Cleveland Lebrons" with cadavers, max 7 games I would say and not that many problems.
@I2oseTheory
@I2oseTheory 4 жыл бұрын
“Best transition scorer of all time” Nothing to take lightly.
@koba2209
@koba2209 4 жыл бұрын
Hell he will be Best Scorer Of All Time soon 😎👍😃
@Youngster543210
@Youngster543210 3 жыл бұрын
@@koba2209 Thats not how that works. Kareem is not regarded as the best scorrr in NBA history, MJ is even though Kareem scored more total points. The only people that care about longevity stats are Bronsexuals. But even they dont really care otherwise they'd have Karl Malone in their top 10. Its just that that's really the only thing Lebron has over MJ so they have to bring it up because they have no answer for 6-0, 5 MVPs, 6 FMVPs, 10 scoring titles, 3 steals titles, 9 times first team all defense, DPOTY and first all time in damn near every advanced analytic. When Lebron hangs up his sneakers for the last time he'll be the all time leading scorer and amongst the top 10 in almost every category. But the statue in front of the United Center will still say "The best there ever was. The best there ever will be." And it will be as true as its ever been.
@orclover2353
@orclover2353 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youngster543210 Jordan played 15 seasons and only made the finals SIX TIMES. That means HE LOST 9 TIMES before the finals. So Jordan is 6/15 for championships, but didn't even give his team a chance in 9 of those seasons. Lebron made the finals 4 more times than MJ, and is still looking to get more rings. Also, Jordan never beat a team when he was the underdog, Lebron has won two championships against superior teams, and has only lost once when they were the favorite. Jordan lost when the other team was better, and won he had the superior talent on his team. Lebron has actually won when he has been the weaker team. That being said Lebron will always have to pay for his Mavericks performance, even though people point out he had two hall o' famers around him and they couldn't win two games when Lebron had a slump. So which is it...are Wade and Bosh actually that great if Lebron can't have a bad couple games?
@Youngster543210
@Youngster543210 3 жыл бұрын
@@orclover2353 Everything you mentioned is a team accomplishment/failure. I dont determine a players individual greatness on team successes. Bronsexuals seem to do that though. But to address your points. I dont knowmif you're aware of this but in the NBA playoffs there is a 16 team, two conference bracket system. Making the finals doesnt mean you have the second best team in the league, it means you have at worst the 9th best team in the league. Every playoff team in the other conference could be better than yours and you could still make the finals. Hell, even the teams that missed the playoffs could be. Lebron's Cavs made the finals in 07 playing against two teams with a less than .500 record. They then got swept in the finals. The best psrt is Bronsexuals admit that those Cavs had no business even being on the same court as the Spurs lol. The Cavs were the only team the Spurs swept in 07. There were 4 teams in the west that would have dismantled that Cavs squad, the Cavs just never had to play them. In fact, in both MJ and Lebron finished their 4th season with a 50-32 team record. MJ averaged 35/6/7 with 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks on 54 percent shootimg and won MVP and DPOTY, it was literally one of the modt dominanat seasons in NBA history. Lebron averaged just 27/7/6 on 47 percent in 07. The difference is MJ's Bulls played the Pistons in the second round of their own conference, that Pistons team would go on to win the championship the following two seasons. Lebron's Cavs played no relevant contenders in 07 in their own conference. The story was the same in 2014, 2017 and 2018. Hell, the Rockets pushed the Warriors to 7 games in 2018, Lebron's Cavs got blown completely off the court in 4. There was one team in the league good enough to beat MJ's Bulls in 88, 89 and 90, that tram happened to be in the same conference. There were multiple teams good enough to beat Lebron's Cavs and Heat in 2007, 2014, 2017 and 2018, none of them were in the eastern conference. Jordan never won when he was an underdog because teams he was on werent underdogs...because he was on the fucking team lol. Somehow you think thats an indictment against MJ lol. Lebron's Heat were barely underdogs in 2012, it was debatable whether they even should have been. The Cavs won in 2016 by the skin of their teeth after Draymond's suspension and Steph Curry completely choking the series away. Lebron choked away the 2011 finals. Lebron didnt play well in the playoffs 2014 finals. And once again, saying that MJ's teams were never underdogs doesnt actually make a case against him, in fact it makes a case for him. The Bulls had a +3.6 (average. Below average for a playoff team) net rating and the 14th best offense in the league in 94 without MJ, they had a ridiculous +13.4 net rating (still a record) and the no.1 offense in the league with MJ in 96. And ALL of that increase in net rating came on the offensive end. MJ was the Bulls offense, he won 6 championships with 5 of the 10 lowest scoring championship supporting casts in NBA history. Also, you included 2 seasons of MJ's at age 39 and 40 to help build your case, Lebron just turned 36. If you wanted to make an apples to apples comparison you'd want to compare them through age 35. Anyway, arguing that Lebron is better than MJ because his teams made the finals more is even sillier than arguing that MJ is better because his teams won more rings. MJ led teams were undisputedly the best team in the world 6 times. Lebron James led teams were undispudedly the best team in the world 4 times. Both MJ and lebron led somewhere between the 2nd and 16th best teams in the league the rest of the times, nobody really knows because again, 2 conference, 16 team, 2 bracket system. So yeah, you're going to always frame the argument in such a way to make Lebron look good and MJ fans will always do the same for him. But neither of you have any good reason to believe one is truly better than the other, you just.. believe it, arbitrarily. Its a sort of blind faith.
@orclover2353
@orclover2353 3 жыл бұрын
@@Youngster543210 awards are a joke...jordan could have been MVP every season or none of the seasons because the vote is arbitrary, we all know Lebron is the best player in the league by June at least 14 times...yet he doesn't have 14 MVPs...when he should. All defense is a joke, DPY is a joke... Lebron has consistently been rated at the top as a wing defender year after year when it comes to analytics but poor offensive players are always the choice for defensive awards as if they are somehow better just because they save their energy for defense. Lebron shuts down anybody he guards in big situations, and then takes on the playmaking responsibilities as well. The main difference between him and MJ, MJ needed a perfect situation in Chicago to be created for him to flourish because he wasn't a great passer, and not a super efficient scorer with a below average 3 game...his mid-range game we all know wasn't the most efficient use of resources. Lebron took FIVE different coaches to the final, won with three different coaches on three different teams, with three dramatically different rosters. His supposed Hall of fame stars have flamed out spectacularly without him and the teams he leaves are awful without him. Jordan left a championship team and they still made the playoffs...Lebron left cleveland twice and miami once and they became lottery picks. Best Ever
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 The perfection of such a difficult pass is mind boggling. He throws right into his pocket.
@TheDAWinz
@TheDAWinz 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron still gets his head above rim.
@Nukedisaster1986
@Nukedisaster1986 4 жыл бұрын
TheDAWinz he’s still out of his athletic prime tho
@jackklnet2458
@jackklnet2458 4 жыл бұрын
His head gets slightly under the rim but still amazing for his age.
@ajdaking507
@ajdaking507 4 жыл бұрын
@@jackklnet2458 that's amazing for anyone to jump so high that he's just about eye level with the rim.
@AllucB
@AllucB 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron being out of his prime is still one of the most athletic players in the league and that coupled with his experience is what makes him so dangerous in his progressed age
@benjamincole9723
@benjamincole9723 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllucB Exactly. Still top 10 in the league easy.
@thomasdantas
@thomasdantas 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Bron's first SI cover when he was in 10th grade. He had been highly scouted for a while by then and there was this great Danny Ainge quote in the article. To paraphrase: "there's only maybe 4 or 5 current NBA players I wouldn't give up to get Lebron James on my team right now." His reasoning was that beyond his obvious physical gifts, he was already a virtuoso passer by age 16. I definitely agree that his game will age very gracefully because of that.
@sydneycole3180
@sydneycole3180 4 жыл бұрын
Roadkill Bingo Lebron would be a bench warmer without his athleticism lol.
@bill11ringsrussell66
@bill11ringsrussell66 4 жыл бұрын
Sydney Cole does that make his passing better? No
@carterbilbro4615
@carterbilbro4615 4 жыл бұрын
Sydney Cole ok?
@TranquilAura77
@TranquilAura77 4 жыл бұрын
Hes undoubtedly the strongest passer in the league and arguably the most precise passer too.
@jdsilvestri
@jdsilvestri 4 жыл бұрын
Well, he is amazing but saying he is undoubtedly better than Jokic is crazy
@ShanLoHoops
@ShanLoHoops 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdsilvestri I'd still pick bron over jokic in terms of passing...bron is such a threat offensively which makes his passing all the more deadly
@ngbrenden1225
@ngbrenden1225 4 жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly is abit of a stretch tho. A case can be made for jokic to be better than lebron but I wont argue if you say lebron is slightly better than jokic but not by a big margin
@Neekalos
@Neekalos 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Silvestri he means like physically stronger passes I think, not necessarily better
@vincevincent3425
@vincevincent3425 4 жыл бұрын
Lòs Padrè he’s undoubtedly better way more versatile passe
@deeps.
@deeps. 4 жыл бұрын
Currently leading with 11.1APG, crazy
@AdmiralHipper15
@AdmiralHipper15 4 жыл бұрын
He flicks this thing out of here like he's swiping right or something
@kefkapalazzo1
@kefkapalazzo1 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought lebron was the best because there’s no pass he can’t make
@jonjuko8859
@jonjuko8859 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly I think him and Magic are the two best.
@SeanD19
@SeanD19 4 жыл бұрын
He cant passed MJ 🤪
@wojak91
@wojak91 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeanD19 THIS VIDEO IS ABOUT PASSING. STFU
@ly7017
@ly7017 4 жыл бұрын
Asean Dungo he can’t passed mj.... u might want to check ur grammar lol
@SeanD19
@SeanD19 4 жыл бұрын
@@ly7017 English is my 3rd language. I beg your forgiveness sir.
@mytimeharris5087
@mytimeharris5087 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta do a 2020 update! I have no doubt in my mind that he has gotten better
@BlueHundred1
@BlueHundred1 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron's passing is so great because he preps so much imo. He almost always makes the right pass but sometimes it misses its mark like you mentioned.
@weiyan2966
@weiyan2966 3 жыл бұрын
You got it absolutely correct
@CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN
@CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN 4 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely satisfying breakdown that was... bravo!
@royjones8312
@royjones8312 4 жыл бұрын
He led the league in assists by a mile .
@Hawk15xxx
@Hawk15xxx 4 жыл бұрын
Alright, I'm a Kobe fan and I respect Lebron's skills a little more now
@Mahdi_Amine
@Mahdi_Amine 4 жыл бұрын
You should watch his 2018 playoffs highlights
@rice2cu5881
@rice2cu5881 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking Basketball: "That makes 2020 incredibly promising" 2020: Bruh
@moses9647
@moses9647 4 жыл бұрын
I forget who it was but at some point someone pointed out how LeBron has never had a great coach which makes you wonder how tf he developed this IQ. Like who taught this dude how to think the game at a all-time level?
@Jay-dn2pg
@Jay-dn2pg 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder where the guy is that was thinking surface level on the other passing video and was acting like LeBron is an average and very overrated passer. TB even used some of the same points that I used when I was arguing with him and it was his ability to pass in any direction at high speeds because of his strength particularly on those drive skip passes. He makes a lot or he did make a lot of these unorthodox passes along the baseline while driving when he was in Cleveland, mainly rifle skip passes to JR, Korver and Love.
@burner1303
@burner1303 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically LeBron is an underrated passer, since his assist numbers aren't as high as most point guards. But in terms of passing skill, I'd put him over anyone.
@fusionheee7507
@fusionheee7507 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Money he’s a clown he’s the best passer in the league currently maybe behind chris Paul
@lebronisthegoat8010
@lebronisthegoat8010 4 жыл бұрын
Theres so many people that say lebron is a terrible passer and it isnt even funny anymore
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
@@burner1303 eh idk LeBron falls on both ends on the spectrum, some think hes an upassing ball hog and others think he's the second coming of magic, I for one most definitely disagree with the common notion he's a better passer than scorer
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 4 жыл бұрын
he is a good passer, but not a great playmaker, and at the crunch even his passing becomes obsolete, especially against disciplined defenses like GS and Spurs, they simple know the kind of passes he likes and they just close the lanes, thats why whole team movement is way superior, like the Kobe/MJ playmaking, in the triangle system, or the Parker/Tim/Manu system, or the Curry playmaking, these guys move off ball and set screens, Lebron doesn't, hence, outside of the predictable Lebron system he is a bad playmaker.
@richard_lisondra
@richard_lisondra 4 жыл бұрын
For me, triple double for him is so damn easy if he wants to. That is why some haters accused him for stat padding.
@jasbest11
@jasbest11 4 жыл бұрын
If he averaged one, they’d only say he’s a ballhog
@muhammadputera6593
@muhammadputera6593 4 жыл бұрын
you can tell he doesn't stat pad (at least to the degree of a guy like Russell) because he has a ton of near-miss trip dubs where he fell one rebound or assist short, and only realized after the game was over. Stat padders tend to keep an eye on their numbers in-game
@jeffreyxu6430
@jeffreyxu6430 4 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadputera6593 yeah it's so easy, for lebron to grab the ball and find the open man, or score. He doesn't need to box out teammates, or purposely hunt for assists
@showtimelakers3737
@showtimelakers3737 4 жыл бұрын
His missed them 79 times due to one rebound or assist🤫
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@showtimelakers3737 Yeah, crazy, and really the proof for that bs take and accusation (either for triple doubles or even with for his insane all-time stats and in all those categories-at the top of those too as a SF).
@jordantorres9892
@jordantorres9892 4 жыл бұрын
What an impressive player. Great vid.
@madcowdisguise
@madcowdisguise 4 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of analyses. Though it may not be relevant to the modern NBA, I'd love to see similar videos analyzing past great players. For example, a video like this analyzing Larry Bird's passing abilities.
@jihming7270
@jihming7270 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that he's one of the few people who can drive against a strong defender pressuring him and still pass away from himself to the weak side corner. That take loads of strength. It's what makes LeBron uniquely LeBron.
@HeadlinePlays
@HeadlinePlays 4 жыл бұрын
Still think he's the best playmaker in the game. Gonna make AD look like baby Kareem lol
@bboywolf
@bboywolf 4 жыл бұрын
kareem said this himself, good job.
@heliosb3714
@heliosb3714 4 жыл бұрын
Cp3, trae young are better, others are just about equal to him aswell.
@krunkformula
@krunkformula 3 жыл бұрын
@@heliosb3714 trae young? Nah. If anything you could say Luka maybe but still a little early for that
@samarthbhatnagar347
@samarthbhatnagar347 2 жыл бұрын
@@heliosb3714 No
@nathanielstevens7150
@nathanielstevens7150 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, you make some ROO NOTCH content man. From your thumbnails to the amazing in-depth analytics, you never fail to impress!
@zerocal76
@zerocal76 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I just became a Patreon supporter. My first time doing it. Basketball is a big part of my life. I'm a player and ex-coach (instead of ex-player and coach lol) and your channel is just awesome man. Thank you for putting out all this content, there's really nothing like it on youtube. Hope u gain a ton more support!
@yuch1102
@yuch1102 4 жыл бұрын
He is still like 80% more athletic than the rest of his league
@showtimelakers3737
@showtimelakers3737 4 жыл бұрын
95%
@Stocksinho
@Stocksinho 4 жыл бұрын
there is benchwarmers etc. 500+ player in nba. u can name 25 player that is more athletic then bron at best.
@Meyr3356
@Meyr3356 4 жыл бұрын
And he's well into his 30's too
@smdideleted6327
@smdideleted6327 3 жыл бұрын
Till this day lol . And it’s his 18th season . His 19th starts in like 6-7 months .
@samarthbhatnagar347
@samarthbhatnagar347 2 жыл бұрын
No 65 percent at best.
@chrissendsroutes
@chrissendsroutes 4 жыл бұрын
So ready for the season to start X_X
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
Loving this upload schedule
@11Andruxa
@11Andruxa 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing channel with great videos every single time! Thank you
@wildreams
@wildreams 4 жыл бұрын
You are right on all fronts. LeBron does lead the league in assist in the 2020 season right now.
@gunner0479
@gunner0479 4 жыл бұрын
The speed of his passes also give shooters an extra second to get thier shot off
@daderr99
@daderr99 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing I used to notice about how the speed of his passes are a great tool is that speed itself put people in rhythm. When he's surrounded by good and aggressive shooters an innocent reverse pass can become an assist just because the speed of the pass itself requires some feet adjustment frome the receveing player, good shooters can use that feet movement to make themselves in rhythm
@Dafelle
@Dafelle 4 жыл бұрын
The lids ad before this was amazing
@nblade66
@nblade66 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Your podcast is great, too. I was wondering, do statisticians for nba teams (I assume every team has a team of statisticians) do the same sort of analysis as you do, or is it on another level? I'm majoring in computer engineering with a minor in statistics, and I'm sort of wondering if there's a viable career path somewhere along there in the nba...
@BassUndertow
@BassUndertow 4 жыл бұрын
nblade66 great question! I'd love to know more about this as well 🙂
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 4 жыл бұрын
If skip Bayless calls LeBron the greatest passer in the league. Then case closed lol
@mr.anderson1562
@mr.anderson1562 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously 😂😂 he don’t like giving nothing to lebron but you gotta watch him sometimes he boost lebron abilities up so he can rip him apart for not being able to do something nearly impossible in certain situations 🤦🏾‍♂️
@Parsa-je1vd
@Parsa-je1vd 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.anderson1562 i never thought about it like that but u right
@mr.anderson1562
@mr.anderson1562 4 жыл бұрын
Parsa 7672 skip is an asshole he puts lebron in a situation to lose every time he do something great it’s “aw cmon he’s supposed to do that he’s better then everybody” then he makes a mistake “he’s the best player in the world right? How did he miss that shot?” i can’t lie I wouldn’t want another guy on the show with Shannon tho skip is hilarious 🤣🤣
@nbudyyanejo
@nbudyyanejo 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what Lebron would achieve with a coach like Pop.
@stoobe
@stoobe 4 жыл бұрын
Those passing direction visualizations are so cool! Amazing we have the data now to calculate things like this.
@codathlete3644
@codathlete3644 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’d be cool if you looked deeper into older greats like MJ, Kobe, Magic, and Vince
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
He did on backpicks.com
@3xFranco
@3xFranco 4 жыл бұрын
"LeBron may lead the league in assists this year." He is indeed leading the league in assists.
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 4 жыл бұрын
So many of his passes are ridiculous, glad you highlighted how undervalued his passing is
@harlandwunrow8596
@harlandwunrow8596 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos brother keep doing you
@mikeg7244
@mikeg7244 4 жыл бұрын
So disappointed you didn’t include the bullet pass to Lonzo against the Mavs in the beginning of the season. And the one he did in transition to Javale against the Wizards by the end of the season. By far Two of my favorite passes of the 2018-2019 season. LeBron is really the best passer/playmaker in NBA History. Great video as usual
@Dotsetc
@Dotsetc 4 жыл бұрын
Mike G The best of the league today yea he probably is, but of all time? Being the scoring threat he is in the era of infinite spacing and thus far more wide open shots, I'd vouch for players like Magic, Stockton, Kidd and Bird who might be the most underrated passer ever(might add MJ and Kobe to this too but Lebron over them is fine ofcourse). They actually had to find the tiniest gaps for passes and especially Bird is unequaled in this. The one thing Lebron probably has above anybody is his bullet pass. Its so crazy on point(although he misses them often too, thats fine. Just like Westbrook, high volume great passer tend to turnover some of these passes too). I think that Lebron's ability to lob is actually one of the most underrated parts of his passing. As for playmaker as in pure playmaking skills, hes IMO also not the best of his generation. The ones that are were clearly CP3 and Rondo(Rondo didnt even have a shot so teams could clog his passing lanes which makes it even more amazing same with Simmons who is for the same reason severely underrated). Not here to downgrade Lebrons passing because IMO its the most exciting thing about him as a player, but lets keep it neutral.
@n00dle_king
@n00dle_king 4 жыл бұрын
People talk about what if LeBron played Tight End in the NFL, but what if he had played Quarterback?
@En_Gho
@En_Gho 4 жыл бұрын
I love your analyses! Keep it up. Subscribed and liked.
@henrykermond5328
@henrykermond5328 4 жыл бұрын
best basketball content on youtube, every student of the game should be subscribed
@alexfialon1
@alexfialon1 4 жыл бұрын
Who would have ever thought that the best passers in the league would be a "small forward" and a center?
@shibity
@shibity 4 жыл бұрын
I've always felt that LBJ's passing ability was his greatest gift as a player.
@JetEngine85
@JetEngine85 4 жыл бұрын
Coz he CHOKES when he's needed the most.. especially when his team is down by points..he can't even make a FREE THROW.. you know why it's called free throw? Coz it's free.. nobody is guarding you😂😂😂😂😂
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
@@JetEngine85 How is any of what you just said relevant to what that person wrote?
@carterbilbro4615
@carterbilbro4615 4 жыл бұрын
Jerome Yudiet what’s the most free throws you’ve ever made out of 10?
@ionunm6052
@ionunm6052 3 жыл бұрын
Jerome Yudiet Shut up nerd
@WNPass
@WNPass 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an update on this for the past season.
@CdnTrader1
@CdnTrader1 4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, it’s almost like you are at the donair shop while my friend and I talk hoops.
@thunderguy1170
@thunderguy1170 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron and magic greatest passers ever imo
@sunday3237
@sunday3237 4 жыл бұрын
going to be greatest pg in nba this year.
@kablanamon8601
@kablanamon8601 4 жыл бұрын
6:22 you predicted it based on analysis, On point!!
@pleromafamily628
@pleromafamily628 4 жыл бұрын
This video is ageing so perfectly
@TheNamesDitto
@TheNamesDitto 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron is an underrated passer.
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 4 жыл бұрын
This dude's game is the best I've seen. He is like Shaq, MJ and Magic rolled into one. Everyone saying NBA was tougher back in Jordan's day is a joke. Bulls had the super team those 6 titles. Bron had the best team once and won. Won one against all odds too. MJ wouldn't have carried Cavs over GSW...
@Sg6CrossOver
@Sg6CrossOver 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha super team on the First three peat?? U the type of dude that can't understand great chemistry and thinks It was ALL talent. LeBron never won a title with equal or slight less talent.
@Sg6CrossOver
@Sg6CrossOver 4 жыл бұрын
Having stimulus package, a Second Guy who was playing like MVP on his own team and Multiple injuries on the other side....hajahhahha against ALL odds my ass.
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sg6CrossOver Lakers got the first threepeat of merged ABA/NBA you twit. And they went one better with 4 in a row in 82-85... You weren't even old enough to appreciate Jordan... Was lucky enough to see prime Magic, Jordan and the players who followed. Saw old Doc J but not in his prime. Bet you were born in the 90s as NBA been around well before Jordan played in the NBA!
@omnitheus5442
@omnitheus5442 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sg6CrossOver lmao. on second dude playing like an MVP. Kyrie was good but not that consistent in the finals. Scottie and Kukoc did a hell of a lot of lifting for MJ too scrub. Not to mention some of the role players hitting clutch shots in those titles... The Bulls roster was ridiculous compared to everyone else. They were deep. Compare that to the other teams they met... Utah was likely the best MJ faced but they were not as deep nor as young as Stockton was old. GSW is the best team I've seen. Both iterations with and without KD were abhorrently strong. Spurs and OKC in the early 2010s were also pretty ridiculous talent wise.
@Sg6CrossOver
@Sg6CrossOver 4 жыл бұрын
@@omnitheus5442 Kyrie created way more on half court than LeBron on those playoffs and next years, LeBron got his scoring on open 3s and fast breaks. Kyrie was insane for 5 games on those series and his numbers shows he was playing at MVP level on his own right.
@opalvenom1111
@opalvenom1111 4 жыл бұрын
INSANELY GOOD CONTENT PLEASE KEEP UP CONTENT
@ruchpat1
@ruchpat1 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see him increase his free throw percentage and his efficiency on left block corner jump shots.
@teddy1234599
@teddy1234599 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, insightful as always! How do you compare LeBron vs Magic Johnson?
@jonjuko8859
@jonjuko8859 4 жыл бұрын
They're honestly equal as passers, LeBron just scores more
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
Pablo I think you've read his breakdowns on both on backpicks.com, I've seen your name all over the comments
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
I know that Ben believes Magic to be the clear best passer ever And the best playmaker ever by a slight margin, he's mentioned before that LeBrons definitely below magic (in terms of passing)
@teddy1234599
@teddy1234599 4 жыл бұрын
@@qwikscopez6619 Yes, I've read most, if not all, of his breakdowns. I just didn't remember how he compared the two players. Thanx
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 жыл бұрын
Bro you uploaded minutes after Phantuums
@Gabriel-dr9ru
@Gabriel-dr9ru 4 жыл бұрын
Comment 3
@diggidong470
@diggidong470 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well explained thank you!
@mrfabo60
@mrfabo60 4 жыл бұрын
Sheesh I needed this video
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 3 жыл бұрын
There's no argument. He IS the best passer in the NBA, although Nikola Jokic is a close second.
@TheRiddam
@TheRiddam 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I had to turn this video off after hearing you say that jokic has the best vision and creativity in the world.
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
You missed the point of the video.
@far9462
@far9462 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids!!!😀
@benjaminbaumgardner7620
@benjaminbaumgardner7620 4 жыл бұрын
I love the stats vids but my favorite are player profiles and rankings like these
@shane1997
@shane1997 4 жыл бұрын
his Iq is off the charts 🐐
@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536
@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron's third act is going to be an absolute joy to watch. Going to be like a second coming of Magic, just with more athleticism.
@raygivler
@raygivler 4 жыл бұрын
This has been added to my passing playlist, and is perhaps only rivaled by the ShotMechanics one on passing windows.
@Kindafu
@Kindafu 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus I still marvel at the accuracy of the key prediction in this video
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 жыл бұрын
I’m too busy reacting to Ronnie reaction to the community backlash
@Gabriel-dr9ru
@Gabriel-dr9ru 4 жыл бұрын
Comment 1
@yunan9610
@yunan9610 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, what happened?
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m 4 жыл бұрын
Care to enlighten?
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 жыл бұрын
Yunan β Ronnie was asked about all the backlash on him and nba2k and he said he was happy cause his game was that “important” to people they keep complaining😂😂😂👌
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 жыл бұрын
locknight read the comment I said to other guy
@NigelStJean-mp9sz
@NigelStJean-mp9sz 4 жыл бұрын
🐐
@UshmoyTheGamer
@UshmoyTheGamer 4 жыл бұрын
great vid
@r7anr77
@r7anr77 4 жыл бұрын
Your best video yet
@jonjuko8859
@jonjuko8859 4 жыл бұрын
Assists don't tell the whole story, Lebron is as good a passer as anyone and I mean ANYONE.
@Stinky12
@Stinky12 4 жыл бұрын
Genius
@samarthbhatnagar347
@samarthbhatnagar347 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos man, make one on lakers now and what do you think about vogel offensive schemes and defensive lapse
@SuperKcao
@SuperKcao 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis
@tajk2675
@tajk2675 3 жыл бұрын
Here after LeGoat won the ring & led the league in assists
@cwilson9341
@cwilson9341 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Giannis' passing relative to lebron's?
@qwikscopez6619
@qwikscopez6619 4 жыл бұрын
He breaksdown giannis' passing in his video on giannis
@burner1303
@burner1303 4 жыл бұрын
He did a video on Giannis and mentioned Giannis has room to improve as a passer making reads iirc. LeBron is maybe the GOAT passer so that's a high bar even if Giannis is great.
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 4 жыл бұрын
@@burner1303 lebron is nowhere near the passer. Yall gotta chill b. Magic, stockton, big o, cp3, nash, kidd, bird, and then we can start thinking of bron.
@SeejayDayo
@SeejayDayo 4 жыл бұрын
Burn Er I mean Brons def not the GOAT passer but I’d put him in a tier just below Magic Johnson, CP3, Stockton, OG IT, hell I might even put Rondo above him but Brons still a lethal passer
@burner1303
@burner1303 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheIcemanthomas Magic, Nash, and CP3 I agree with, that's a conversation. The rest of these guys LeBron is better than.
@aliazhar528
@aliazhar528 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you really called the fact that he'd lead the league in assists that year (2019-2020). Goat behaviour. Love your channel man, keep the good stuff coming !
@ReCharredSigh
@ReCharredSigh 4 жыл бұрын
Seems that the hardest pass to make is the kick-out pass to the same-side corner if you're driving to the middle from the wings. (So a drive from the left wing into the paint on the right side kicking out to a shooter in the left corner) You're throwing across your body, the ball needs to clear above several defenders, and yet it must land right in the shooters' pocket.
@brentralphbautista9343
@brentralphbautista9343 4 жыл бұрын
And haters say he's a ballhog🤦‍♂️
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 4 жыл бұрын
soooo he DIDN'T take an all-star and turn him into nothing but a jump-shooter ? see: k. love
@brentralphbautista9343
@brentralphbautista9343 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaft9000 it's all about the role dude. I think they asked Love and even Bosh to be shooters. And take it easy, I'm not a LeBron stan lol.
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaft9000 Nothing but a jump shooter? What? Lol. Have you even been paying attention?
@hiphophead4891
@hiphophead4891 4 жыл бұрын
His IQ is ridiculous.
@dylanlange9235
@dylanlange9235 4 жыл бұрын
You predicted the leading league in assists part
@PeaceToUsAll
@PeaceToUsAll 3 жыл бұрын
Boy you were right with the predictions
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