Damian Lillard analysis | How his unlimited range is breaking NBA defenses

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How good is Damian Lillard right now? Should he be in the MVP conversation? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report of the Portland Trailblazer star guard breaks down the effect of his incredible outside shooting range while incorporating analytics & stats to assess his overall impact.
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@rene9244 3 жыл бұрын

that graph really shows how insane curry was in 16 lol

@krlllx 3 жыл бұрын

@D Thomas not the original.

@felipemasas 3 жыл бұрын

Best offensive season of all time by far

@angelsosa5903 3 жыл бұрын

That curry was insane dude was shooting the lights out from 3 greatest shooter i ever seen

@adamv9892 3 жыл бұрын

D Thomas definitely not the original, yes the greatest, but Dame has more range

@blakemasters5742 3 жыл бұрын

Adam V no he doesn’t, curry been doing those deep shots for years bro

@BlueGrovyle 3 жыл бұрын

3:24 "Now there is the question of whether these are _good shots_ ," he says, immediately after showing the clip on Paul George.

@injusticeanywherethreatens265 Жыл бұрын

I could taste the shade lmao

@qwikscopez6619 3 жыл бұрын

"The ability to penetrate" *moans*, cmon now Ben

@far06c 3 жыл бұрын

Lol he’s trolling us

@thebookinthehead4573 3 жыл бұрын

There is only one God, and there is only one way that people can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who as a man gave himself to pay for everyone to be free. This is the message that was given to us at just the right time. 1 Timothy 2:5‭-‬6 ERV

@justinwright3977 3 жыл бұрын

The Book In The Head 🙏

@SI10379 3 жыл бұрын

@@kentonmcbride when u think ab it there's sm sus phrases in basketball. "Good / Hard D " , " A sweet stroke" "penetrate" "wet" etc.

@JM1992 3 жыл бұрын

Just trying to be Stephen A Smith

@Davivd2 3 жыл бұрын

What impresses me most about his range is that his 30 footers are smooth and fluid like he's shooting a normal 3. Normally to shoot from that range players need to heave their body into it and that throws off their mechanics a bit and lowers their shooting percentage. Lillard has some real strength in his body to keep his form at that distance.

@greatness7619 3 жыл бұрын

Lebron does it too If you search you’ll see him pulling from half court like its a normal jumpshot🤣

@wallstreetzoomer 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of players can do that lol, but of course only Lillard (and Curry) can make them at a 40 percent clip.

@leilaziani9833 3 жыл бұрын

@@wallstreetzoomer For now tho. I see Trae and Robinson making those on a consistent base in a couple of years.

@GANGLYMAN117 3 жыл бұрын

@@leilaziani9833 i don't think Trae is going to be as much of a sniper as people think. Though he certainly loves pulling from deep he only makes 33 percent. His college 3 percentage was never great either. Watch Bens vid on Trae he explains why Trae might not be a 40% shooter.

@Zaghzackio 3 жыл бұрын

TheHumbleNarcissist trae is only 21 hes gonna get better. Curry was still in college at this point in his career

@omarakil9352 3 жыл бұрын

Those hand offs certainly tug on the d, thanks Thinking Basketball.

@Richbeans115 3 жыл бұрын

This finished me

@Zaghzackio 3 жыл бұрын

Lmfaoo sus

@migz23 3 жыл бұрын

They also pull out bigs

@adambryant8416 Жыл бұрын

I fs thought the whole comment section was gonna be saying that. Guess not lol

@TheRealAbraxas Жыл бұрын

“Tug on the D” 💦💦💦

@patrick05Morgan 3 жыл бұрын

I love that their mistakes/ imperfections are shown in these videos as well. It really puts their game into perspective and shows the nuiances of the game.

@Alexvudoo 3 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing to watch Dame’s game improve throughout the years. Especially since his rookie to now. Great vid

@hockeytaperoom771 3 жыл бұрын

When everyone’s healthy, I only have Harden, Durant, and Curry clearly better than him offensively.

@aidanl3137 3 жыл бұрын

What about lebron? Passing is also an incredibly important component for an offensive engine

@momothunder9544 3 жыл бұрын

Curry not better no way curry a better shooter but daim more complete offensively

@navia810 3 жыл бұрын

@@momothunder9544 being the best shooter of all time isnt an understatement

@hockeytaperoom771 3 жыл бұрын

I think they’re on the same level right now, when Lillard is hot like this. LeBron doesn’t have the shooting for me to comfortably say he’s clearly better. But if Lillard regresses back to his mean, LeBron probably barely has the edge

@paulcervantes528 3 жыл бұрын

@@hockeytaperoom771 i completely agree

@cnl1213 3 жыл бұрын

@4:20 "Curry's perpetual off-ball gravity" is very well put. It is a sign of an MVP-level player that the threat of the havoc one is capable of creating is bigger than the actual damage that it may cause. Developing that may be the next step in Dame's game. Then he may reach closer peak-Curry status.

@t4d0W 3 жыл бұрын

An elite players' ability to command respect off ball is what makes them a potent ceiling raiser for their team in the playoffs.

@siddharthgundala4285 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on the evolution of basketball defence and how much more skilled you have to be , to be a good defender in today's NBA

@michawirkus9030 3 жыл бұрын

this is great idea. boomers don't get it.

@jorgecueva9239 3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree

@siddharthgundala4285 3 жыл бұрын

@@michawirkus9030 exactly defense today is so unappreciated...what players like kawahi and Marcus smart do on tue defense end is so amazing considering the limitations

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

Siddharth Gundala Kawhi is an all time great defender. Marcus smart no so much lol. There were a lot better perimeter defenders in the 90’s than Marcus Smart lol.

@jorgecueva9239 3 жыл бұрын

I think that what he means is that back in the day you could physically interfere more or just clothesline people and be considered an above average defender ( not saying all good defenders where like that) while today to be a good defender you can't play physical basketball so you have to have sharper response and a better game sense than in the 90s

@jsondoan2561 3 жыл бұрын

Favourite bball youtuber with a vid on my favourite player. Thankyou Ben!!!

@dephy11 3 жыл бұрын

Channels like these really ignite my passion to analyze basketball. Love the content

@thatsupaprokid5765 3 жыл бұрын

GOAT nba analysis channel. Love the stuff you’ve been doing been a fan for a year now.

@PUFFINCAT 3 жыл бұрын

1:02 i felt that MMMM, i had to replay it 5 times, that was so damn smooth!

@schmonghonnes1682 3 жыл бұрын

Skip Bayless be like: bUt cAn He AcTuallY hIt a tHrEe ?!

@kronmeicrumbs 3 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised he had time to critique Lillard. I thought he only had eyes for Bron.

@mrsialeipata8615 3 жыл бұрын

@@kronmeicrumbs he gotta find someone else for when bron retires

@frank26436364 3 жыл бұрын

Nur der svw

@schmonghonnes1682 3 жыл бұрын

@@frank26436364 ehre die werder Fans sind überall 💪🏽

@cidmatrix9643 3 жыл бұрын

Great analysis! Dame has really taken his game to another level.

@biznick 3 жыл бұрын

I already know this is going to be a great video

@Livenmaintain65 3 жыл бұрын

Top quality content again 🤝I think what we need next is some playoff Doncic& Mitchell analysis, if they proceed.

@joshuapark7350 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this one!

@t-mofisher8922 3 жыл бұрын

nothing to say except i really love your videos. keep doing what you’re doing.

@hubertsumlin9697 3 жыл бұрын

love this channel, best hoops content on youtube

@JohnSmith-eo2yx 3 жыл бұрын

Watching clips with crowds is so jarring now. It's strange to think how quickly I've gotten used to the bubble environment as a viewer. Great video!!

@ObnoxiousOtter8 3 жыл бұрын

* sees that David Aldridge writes for The Athletic * *THANKS DA, GREAT INSIGHT!*

@JordanYap35 3 жыл бұрын

Great in depth analysis. Dame is insane.

@simongauthier-daviault1048 3 жыл бұрын

Best basketball channel on KZfaq. I love your videos

@dangelodrummond8315 3 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree !! Dame is just different 💫

@paraminderdhanota9810 3 жыл бұрын

I wish u posted more I love ur work

@gray_gogy 3 жыл бұрын

You know what I love about the all the Curry talk with Dame? Curry's gonna come back looking for blood. We'll see him taking more deep threes to prove a point. Whether he'll be able to prove it at this age is a different story. But I sure hope he will

@Princeofknowelege 3 жыл бұрын

My only concern with Curry is he is getting older and injuries are starting to bother him again.

@precisism1804 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t see age being an issue unless injuries come into play. Steph’s game isn’t at at all predicated upon athleticism, and the age he’s at right now is around when many all-time greats peaked in terms of skill.

@kingdinodragonite3470 3 жыл бұрын

@@precisism1804 no but aside his shooting, his best offensive skillset to get buckets are finishes and drives. He's making 65% of them. Once he gets older, he might be a spot up shooter only because he can't drive past guys easily like he did in 2016 if he's older.

@stevenwhiters8928 3 жыл бұрын

Lol curry only shoots the deep threes when he gets hot curry actually normally gets slot of Easy shots because of his off ball movement. Then after he heats up he just hit everything. dame on the other hand start off jacking

@hyperactive9148 3 жыл бұрын

They like the same age bro I think curry only got a year or 2 on him

@david.tousignant20 3 жыл бұрын

You are becoming the best basketball KZfaqr. Smart and educated videos. No bias. Just facts! Keep doing your great work.

@aidanl3137 3 жыл бұрын

David Tous. Always has been

@williamfales456 3 жыл бұрын

A video ab my fav player from my favorite Basketball channel?!?!? GOOOOOOOD MORNING

@BeakerSunset 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see an analysis of some legacy NBA stars.

@taterz4502 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this

@kidjiujitsu 3 жыл бұрын

Love this mans knowledge of the game.

@andybrummel5555 3 жыл бұрын

In the modern NBA, you have to be A faster, More reactive thinker, to be a good defender. With players abilities to spread the floor; with 3 point shooting; you need a lot of eyes in the back of your head and great court vision and space awareness, to cover both the paint and get to the edge man as well. In the 80s and 90s The ERA I grew up watching, The 3 point shot was hardly a factor. It was all about the big man down low and the physical nature of the game. You had to be tough as nails and Solid as a rock to survive and do well in that ERA of NBA basketball. Cause if you could not bang with the big boys down low, you were not gonna contribute much on defense. Exceptions being Pesky Guards and wings like MJ Scottie Stocton etc. Who made it a habbit of stealing your lunch money so much you starved to death. So yes, To be a great defender in the modern NBA takes a much higher level of skill sets then the past NBA. They got these poor boys running around like chickens now don't they? thanks Stephen Curry!

@rygesa 3 жыл бұрын

"Isnt too far off from peak Curry" ummm looks pretty damn far off to me.

@taterz4502 3 жыл бұрын

3%is that far

@rygesa 3 жыл бұрын

@@taterz4502 he said "9% better" but that dot is closer to 8.5%. Steph is at 13%. That's a big 4.5% difference. Nice try.

@taterz4502 3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Ryge nice try? i was confused and i like currying

@taterz4502 3 жыл бұрын

Andreas Ryge curry

@rygesa 3 жыл бұрын

@@taterz4502 oh sorry. I thought you were implying there isn't a big difference.

@jacksonskateanddrum 9 ай бұрын

Imagine watching this 2 years on as Dame has just had the best offensive season of his career.

@simonamorim8178 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone one of these videos is a gem

@marco5030 3 жыл бұрын

"His defense is another story for another day", he says, right before delving into his defense.

@nflvideos3363 3 жыл бұрын

YES best b-ball analysis out there

@Zipfei_Kloatscher 3 жыл бұрын

And he has a perfect and (most) beautiful shooting form.

@therealbando 3 жыл бұрын

Why don`t you upload your podcast episodes on youtube?

@fuckoffstupidyoutub1 3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for Ben's top 10 players of the season like he did last year, it might be surprises with Durant and Curry out

@mintesinotsturm388 3 жыл бұрын

Do one of Duncan Robinson plz. I wanna see somebody talk about how amazing he’s been in his rookie season.

@243354 3 жыл бұрын

Not a single mention of his incredible ability to take care of the ball? The man has a 126 ORTG on the season. That is INSANE

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

8th seed

@ruchpat1 3 жыл бұрын

He really is a good ball handler as well I don’t think I have seen commit an egregious amount of turn overs. The little efficiencies can add up in a good way sometimes.

@Heat_Hoops_Basketball_League 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta do a video on defensive player of the year

@rThe07555 3 жыл бұрын

How you gonna analyse him and not mention his 40inch vert, he's one of the most frequent dunkers of any pg literally ever.

@chesssse6607 3 жыл бұрын

Lillard offensive game is my second favourite in the leauge after Curry Both are really enjoyable

@user-es6wn9vj9o 3 жыл бұрын

i love the way you tell both his good and bad things about his game. Other KZfaqrs just overrate him.

@nathanxu666 3 жыл бұрын

do an analysis on PG's playing so far

@joshgoodloe4830 3 жыл бұрын

Banger

@darrylwallace2428 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot wait to see Lillard and Curry match up next season. Those two imo are the best guards in the league.

@vexzore7019 3 жыл бұрын

Fire vid

@tinopazhernandez6701 3 жыл бұрын

IDK about that in many of the games in the bubble dame, sometimes guarded the best player on the other team and did pretty good. I feel like he is good at defense when the blazer really need him but he doesn't want to waste his energy

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

He’s a minus defender.

@Infinityflow0 3 жыл бұрын

I think the best way to defend this type of threat is with very physical guards. They will make crazy shots and there is not much you can do when they pull up, but that physicality will wear them down throughout a series. The best example of this would probably be the cavs in 2016, when they were relentlessly physical with the warriors, especially as it went on. Dame is tough, but even his shot will start to break down at some point when facing that sort of defense.

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

Ask Jrue Holiday and Rondo :)

@freshfade28 3 жыл бұрын

He's been balling i hope he get a chip this year for all the doubters

@arqumabdullah2462 3 жыл бұрын

8:25 damn he got YEETED

@jeffgiblin1 3 жыл бұрын

kick out to the open shooter always seems to be Gary Trent Jr #underrated

@kevinyu527 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please do one for Lu Dort? Thank you.

@memtub8782 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Thinking Basketball, it would be cool if you made a video on comparing dame with Steph curry, since many people are comparing him with Steph, and even saying that dame has surpassed Steph ( personally I don't believe that )

@qwikscopez6619 3 жыл бұрын

There isn't a man born from his mother that can shoot better than Stephen Curry

@jrsdt2ndaccount30 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video why freethrows are so hard?

@globulin 3 жыл бұрын

"Now there is the question of whether these are good shots."

@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 2 жыл бұрын

3:45 That's crazy... everything after 2:45 seems unbelievable.

@ashtondunson2932 3 жыл бұрын

That looks like some weird alternate universe Dame Lillard in the thumbnail lol

@nofuture_at_all 3 жыл бұрын

I always put him behind Kyrie and Westbrook on point guard rankings before but this year, he's clearly the best at his position.

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

Westbrook is still better.

@imdbtruth 3 жыл бұрын

Luka is a PG, and Luka is the best at his position.

@preciousaweh8521 3 жыл бұрын

Who is better between Curry and Dame. I only trust you to determine who has a better range or the better 3 point shooter. Thank you

@ijoseph7343 3 жыл бұрын

How is the screen at 2:02 legal with a base that wide?

@yey862 3 жыл бұрын

Great thumbnail

@ballerkidz1226 3 жыл бұрын

Elite shooting in a point guard opens up a lot

@daneforden3136 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid. I loved your old thumbnails. Please go back to that format.

@offrow 3 жыл бұрын

Yo thinking basketball how come you took down your kawhi leonard video?

@or1343 3 жыл бұрын

Which one

@offrow 3 жыл бұрын

@@or1343 he had an analysis video of him a long time ago

@offrow 3 жыл бұрын

@@Soosss i hope so

@stefanos4429 3 жыл бұрын

So with this defence theory I think Portland make big moves to help him Covington Giles Derick Jones help to make the Portland defence more power

@futurehofer1564 3 жыл бұрын

Omg 16 Steph was something else 😳

@inordirection_ 3 жыл бұрын

The best basketball channel on KZfaq?

@Kaitos11 3 жыл бұрын

God damn, that was the sneakiest ad read I've ever seen.

@yohnyarvis9653 3 жыл бұрын

I admit I busted out laughing when he said "tug on the D".

@rohanpande5074 3 жыл бұрын

Can we get a tatum vid soon? your vids are the best

@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын

Conclusion: Lillard shines when Curry is out and not around to overshadow him

@hoodielexballard8102 3 жыл бұрын

Bruhhh 🤣 this man is great stop curry is a all time great we know there’s other players to “he’s a threat from the logo “

@jaychulo1936 3 жыл бұрын

Simple he just keeping the seat warm for curry 😎💯

@misaelintriago5434 3 жыл бұрын

@@hoodielexballard8102 I think people just get annoyed when someone other than curry gets the spotlight and they call it "disrespectful" lol. Like let him get all the attention right now 'cause once curry is back everyone is going to forget about Dame again

@hoodielexballard8102 3 жыл бұрын

Misael Intriago ye curry out rn curry is a better player then dame ye but dame puts up 60 and it goes under oh curry could’ve done that no doubt but this man underrated that’s all I’m trynaget curry fans to see

@Splackavellie85 3 жыл бұрын

Hoodie lex Ballard How is he overrated? If anything, he’s a bit overrated since the bubble. And could you try typing in normal English next time?

@andreacallegari7137 3 жыл бұрын

If the Blazers manage to upset the Lakers and the Rockets overcome the Thunder, we will get an interesting duel between the step back three and the logo shot in the second round

@mrcobbs6227 3 жыл бұрын

It's always a good shot if it goes in:)

@chrisfromph 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this while watching lakers drop 80pts on 1st half

@wallstreetzoomer 3 жыл бұрын

Can you say what do you think of people that thinks Lillard is better than Curry now? Recency bias?

@GANGLYMAN117 3 жыл бұрын

A most extreme version.

@javierlandaverde4108 3 жыл бұрын

Its literally people forgetting Curry because he is not in the bubble and getting caught in the moment because a guy has his range on the court but different players. Both are different players as a whole. Only resemblence is the unlimited range.

@brendanbloom3366 3 жыл бұрын

Lillard and Kyrie have been just as good if not better but in different and worse situations.

@wallstreetzoomer 3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanbloom3366 and you're wrong. they never reach Curry's volume and efficiency at his absolute best, they aren't as good off-ball and defensively too. Only thing they are better at is driving to the rim, but Curry finishes better too.

@brendanbloom3366 3 жыл бұрын

@@wallstreetzoomer curry finishes better cause he has better spacing. That doesn't mean he's a better finisher. He's a better shooter and better off ball but they're better iso players. Dame has had better passing numbers and Kyrie did too after he left Cleveland. Nothing supports him being a better defender. He's surrounded by better defense and they hide him on defense. They're all in different systems with different teamates so it's hard to compare them when they all are close in overall skill.

@hopoff9968 3 жыл бұрын

I agree what he is doing is incredible he's very Steph Curry-esque Steph Curry Lite if you will

@jackhamilton2484 3 жыл бұрын

“Those hand offs tug on the d” bro cmon

@samballtalk 3 жыл бұрын

lu dort defensive breakdown?

@joshreynolds9093 3 жыл бұрын

I need that old background music though man

@rafikz77 3 жыл бұрын

It’s in the video description

@silversrayleigh7859 3 жыл бұрын

I would like steph offensive analysis

@Lilman0992 3 жыл бұрын

nice

@kalginage 3 жыл бұрын

8:26 we're just gonna ignore this insane block...

@marco5030 3 жыл бұрын

He's 7 foot tall and just runs and blocks, that takes no skill...

@panner11 3 жыл бұрын

It may have been ruled a goaltend

@jebinm4706 3 жыл бұрын

goaltend?

@kyrie4451 3 жыл бұрын

What is a good shot? One that you have a good chance of making, for Lillard these are good shots. Even if he only shoots 30% (He shoots over 42% from 30ft out, better than the rest of the league), it will still help create spacing for Blazers offense.

@Oppenheimer1967 3 жыл бұрын

Blazers and Dame are extremely overrated lol

@joshuasilva8168 3 жыл бұрын

Dame content? liked

@geoks.509 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure I've heard something like this before... oh Curry. No doubt Lillard is a great player but it feels ore like Kerr has cracked the code with Curry and the league is finally knowing how to use small players hence Lillard is starting to shine more this few years.