Why LEGO designers thought 10338 Bumblebee was impossible

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Today the LEGO Group unveils the latest addition to its much-loved LEGO TRANSFORMERS lineup: the LEGO® Icons TRANSFORMERS Bumblebee set. Released amid the beloved franchise’s 40th anniversary year, this new set is poised to captivate existing fans and invite new audiences to play out the battle between good and evil.
Maintaining the same scale as the LEGO TRANSFORMERS Optimus Prime set, originally revealed in 2022, this set presents enthusiasts with the opportunity to construct the iconic Autobot, Bumblebee, entirely from LEGO bricks. As a vital companion to LEGO Optimus Prime, Bumblebee completes the iconic duo, allowing fans to recreate epic battles and adventures. What distinguishes this model is its remarkable ability to seamlessly transition between bot mode and vehicle mode, unlocking impressive versatility without the need for disassembly.
The 950-piece set is a highly detailed model of the iconic 1980s robot action figure. It features articulated joints, an ion blaster, and a jetpack, seamlessly converting from Autobot to vehicle mode; accompanied by a display plaque, integrated LEGO Builder app for digital instructions and versatile display options, making it a perfect gift for TRANSFORMERS fans and collectors.
The LEGO® Icons TRANSFORMERS Bumblebee set is available for LEGO Insiders from 1st July 2024 at www.LEGO.com/Bumblebee and LEGO Stores for all from 4th July priced at €89.99 / £79.99/ $89.99.

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@cr4sh1 28 күн бұрын

Shame about the windscreen but you’ve got to appreciate they managed to do this even so

@cdigames 27 күн бұрын

Though the premiere Bumblebee mass market toy recently, the licensed VW Beetle one released with Transformers Earthrise, had the entire trunk and rear windscreen remove for transformation. So this is a marginal step up from that.

@noodle9829 27 күн бұрын

@@cdigamesand yet the new studio series 86 deluxe Bumblebee can accomplish transformation without removing any parts…

@sleepy8688 27 күн бұрын

@@noodle9829it’s cool they finally got him to transform without parts forming, but it’s not exactly an apt comparison since 86 bee is based on his penny racer mode rather than the beetle

@sleepy8688 27 күн бұрын

@@noodle9829he still has a backpack and he turns into the chibi penny racer rather than a licensed beetle so the proportions are a lil diff so its not exactly a one to one comparison (although it is indeed still impressive they finally got bee looking like himself)

@TheLightLOD 25 күн бұрын

To be really honest, comparing this to what many model kit companies claim to be a transformer (swap 25% of the kit out, or have a kit of just the robot form) I think Lego did a pretty good job here.

@edselsugay4768 27 күн бұрын

I’m amazed that they designed the build process wherein you construct the car version first. Upon completion, you can then transform it into the robot version. Truly brilliant.

@rellko3900 27 күн бұрын

I think something to note is while Lego wants to pander to transformers fans, this is first and foremost a Lego set that is a transformer. While I’m much more into Transformers than Lego now, I can appreciate this more from the perspective of a Lego fan who is curious about Transformers.

@chickennugget481 26 күн бұрын

you know... when i clicked on a video called "Why LEGO designers thought 10338 Bumblebee was impossible" i was hoping to find out why lego designers thought lego bumblebee was impossible :/

@CarRobots 25 күн бұрын

Yeahhh that's the entire reason I clicked.

@dylonmason7528 25 күн бұрын

1:00

@Andyg760 14 күн бұрын

You’re all so slow then it’s within the first minute that he says it.

@Andyg760 14 күн бұрын

@@dylonmason7528thank you for listening

@CarRobots 14 күн бұрын

@@Andyg760 the video is titled after it. I wanted more detail.

@Anfernyrocks 27 күн бұрын

People are being pretty unfair to the designer I feel! If the transformation was simpler maybe it would have looked more like the source material, but given they were trying to make the transformation more involved to invoke the old toys, I think it looks pretty good in both forms, and its almost half the price of the optimus prime so this is a major win in my eyes.

@alanyuppie 27 күн бұрын

I build LEGO Transformers for ages and I can understand why official LEGO TFs ended up being so. I think structural integrity in both modes are high priorities to them , so certain tradeoffs must be made in the engineering and also end result .

@Mike-mf3ed 27 күн бұрын

⁠@@alanyuppie I noticed that too while trying to make my own. The more detail I put, the weaker the model was and some couldn’t even stand on their own. But scrapping that made a solid model with minimal detail.

@PAL.Studios 28 күн бұрын

Thanks for another designer presentation, I really enjoy this sort of content.

@Mike-mf3ed 27 күн бұрын

I’m wondering how long it will take Mocists to fix the parts forming part…

@GhostyBrick 28 күн бұрын

I've noticed this in a lot of these desinger videos from the fan media days. The person with the clicking camera gets very annoying after awhile. Kind of ruins a lot of the videos people are taking

@jaihmate4236 28 күн бұрын

Nice work

@MonaroTravels 28 күн бұрын

Given the challenge of actually making this, they've done great.

@mr-fh2be 27 күн бұрын

As a long time Lego builder, this impresses me to no end. I won't complain about the windshield, since I quite well know the limits the Lego elements posses in general. This is a superb accomplishment, and a great tribute to Lego and Gen 1 Transformer fans. Looking forward on more coming out soon (Soundwave with Laserbeak).

@captaincomic8678 26 күн бұрын

Soundwave and (if possible) Devastator are my two top wants from further sets, personally.

@Dystopian-toast 26 күн бұрын

@@captaincomic8678 is it eve possible to make a devastator set?

@kryniuxofficial587 26 күн бұрын

I need LEGO g1 Starscream so bad

@captaincomic8678 25 күн бұрын

@@Dystopian-toast I think they would have to do it the way the original G1 toy did where instead of 6 full-size Transformers that combine into one massive one, it was 6 small-scale ones that combined into one more reasonably sized one. Imagine something similar to the Voltron set, essentially.

@captaincomic8678 25 күн бұрын

@@kryniuxofficial587 Honestly I'd love a mini-wave of him and two or three other Seekers as sets, since once they figure out one the others would be pretty similar.

@marcbiosa-roberteau7061 28 күн бұрын

It's great achievement and cartoonish style feeting the spirit of the original series, in scale, it's perfect !

@Tarriq 28 күн бұрын

If this looked better I would have got both this and optimus. I already have a non lego transformers collection so easy skip but glad it exists!

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

The Kre-o Transformers?

@Tarriq 27 күн бұрын

@@taqresu5865 i have one of those but I meant the hasbro figures!

@SockManAnims 27 күн бұрын

@@taqresu5865 Not everything is brick built. There's normal transformers figures

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

@@SockManAnims No, I misinterpreted his comment about "non Lego Transformers" as a reference to mean the Kre-o, as in "not LEGO branded Brickbuilt Transformers."

@liamm5513 25 күн бұрын

now we need megatron

@user-ch4cr5sm7i 13 күн бұрын

Man I'm happy that we got bumblebee!! Yes his scale to prime is off from what I hear but I give him credit he had to work with a small toy and plus it's Lego I think this set is really good the designer seemed nervous during the meeting or was it just me??

@aimazeki 25 күн бұрын

I feel like they’re gonna make cliff jumper but as a red repaint (or re build).

@owensanfordstuff 17 күн бұрын

Megatron next, then Starscream ;)

@cjbricks422 26 күн бұрын

Honestly, it looks better in the footage than the official pictures

@AlicksL.S. 27 күн бұрын

I would sell my left leg for this set and an Optimus prime trailer moc

@MaxM210 28 күн бұрын

As a fan of both properties, I'm already dreading the endless whining the transformers community is going to be doing about the windshield, because a significant portion of them have tied their identities to a pointless, absurd hatred of parts-forming regardless of context.

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

For me, it depends on how well the partsforming is. I would say the biggest offender in recent memory is WFC Kingdom Arcee. Her entire car alt mode is just a shell you attach to her back as no part of her robot mode, except her backpack, is incorporated into the "transformation." But when it's just the windshield in this case, or the trunk of the car, like the recent G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper figures, I'm perfectly fine with the partsforming.

@MaxM210 27 күн бұрын

@@taqresu5865 yeah, I think that’s a perfectly rational stance.

@thekilljoy2919 28 күн бұрын

It’s not a bad transforming figure per se, but considering the original source material had a simpler transformation, looks like they made a “difficult” process harder than it needed to be. Sure, maybe it wasn’t possible to obtain the license, but there should have been an easy way to transform it without needing to partsform the windshield.

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

The original source material toy isn't a cartoon accurate representation of the character because the animators changed up Bee's design quite a bit, especially when it comes to proportions.

@thekilljoy2919 27 күн бұрын

@@taqresu5865 I’d argue and say the Lego version is an even worse representation of the cartoon model. However, almost none of the toy designs for the original G1 transformers carried over into the animation, so Bumblebee isn’t exactly the exception here. Considering Prime was just an improved version of the G1 toy, it wouldn’t have been hard to do the same for Bee. Reworking the entire transformation made things more difficult than they should have been.

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

@@thekilljoy2919 Have you even looked at how the original Bumblebee toy transformed? First and foremost, after the feet flip up, the legs telescope out to their full length, that's impossible to pull off in LEGO without compromising the figure's ability to stand and carry it's own weight. The set would have been top heavy, too heavy to keep the telescope engineering. Second, if the set transformed exactly as the toy had, there would have been wheels on the shoulders and the hands, as well as big hollow spaces in the back of the torso, in fact there would be no car surface anywhere on the back of the robot mode. Bumblebee's head would also be on an unstable hinge, the same type of issue we see on WFC Seige Megatron.

@cdigames 27 күн бұрын

Come on now, like you are just gonna ignore Earthrise Bumblebee's massive partforming mess?

@gulorful8488 27 күн бұрын

The original bumblebee was a two step dollar tree toy that looked nothing like the bumblebee in the show. What on earth are you talking about?

@zakinthetube 26 күн бұрын

One major problem is that the weapon can't be hidden in the car, like optimus.

@Yeen66 27 күн бұрын

Sad about the partsforming but this is still really great

@sonicrashyugioh 27 күн бұрын

Impossible?! There are MOC makers out there build other transformers and Macross VF fighters. Myself working on a minifigure scale VF 25f, have a lot of work with but the transformation mechanics are work even if its unstable.

@pengo2418 27 күн бұрын

That's the thing: they're unstable. This model had to take into consideration stability, durability, ease of use and build, a specific part budget... All of Lego's product standards that MOCs don't have to deal with.

@furosutokira 27 күн бұрын

@@pengo2418 hachiroku24 has made 2 versions of G1 Bumblebee and they not only look better than this official set, one of them can transform and it's pretty stable

@tfcrossroads 27 күн бұрын

I wouldnt say its impossible, people have done it before although less stable

@shinyrayquaza9 28 күн бұрын

I got one of those small bees from party city in the 2010s

@Dystopian-toast 26 күн бұрын

Its not a true transformation without dispersion relation playing in the background

@bradpennell350 28 күн бұрын

Wow!

@jaketeske6665 28 күн бұрын

Amazing engineering. I wish the car looked better than it does.

@Brickstherobloxian 27 күн бұрын

That’s what it’s supposed to look like..

@shockbolt875 27 күн бұрын

And besides it’s made out of lego. Making a regular car is already difficult as it is

@SockManAnims 27 күн бұрын

yeah I really liked how the early prototype version of it looked. The legs also leave a lot to be desired.

@sonicrashyugioh 27 күн бұрын

Build it then that way.

@KM-64 27 күн бұрын

Im hoping they do Megatron or Soundwave next

@Dewwy2 28 күн бұрын

the back thing looks wierd but other than that it is good

@cjbricks422 26 күн бұрын

Get ready for a red version of this for cliffjumper lol

@sjon1568 28 күн бұрын

Amazing build - but it does feel like the designers are cheating when solving problems with new pieces. 😂

@SpaceRider15 27 күн бұрын

This set is kinda growing on me lol

@natbarmore 26 күн бұрын

Don’t know much about Transformers, so I wouldn’t know (or care) how accurate this is to the toys, cartoons, or comics. (I watched the first season of the US cartoon, and the original movie, and I don’t think I’ve seen anything other than trailers for the Bay movies, since.) But when I was a kid I tried desperately to make Transformers with my Lego-I think the parts just didn’t exist. (And when I started seeing people manage it in the ‘00s, it inevitably used parts that didn’t exist in the ‘80s.) so just the fact that we can not only build Transformers-like MOCs, but there are actual sets of them is really cool! That said, I don’t need this set, though I have a friend who might. But I want to see more about that “bowtie hinge”! That sounds really useful, and like something I’m gonna want a pile of.

@LutraLovegood 2 күн бұрын

We had plenty of parts to make Transformers back then, but not at this scale.

@Springboi9832 27 күн бұрын

I’ve seen some negative comments for this set, and as a fan for both Transformers and Lego, I think that they’re really stupid, like cut them some slack. They’re going for cartoon accuracy and the G1 toy does not help them at all. People saying that it looks hideous, Lego pieces are very limited based on the scale they’re going for, and for the car mode, it’s unlicensed so they’re trying to give off the feel of a VW Beetle, just like most transformers, the alt mode is unlicensed so they’re trying to give off the feel. People saying that the transformation is more complicated than it should’ve been, brother ALL transformations are complicated in some way, Official, Third Party, or Lego MOCs, they’re all complicated in some way. I saw a comment saying that making new parts is cheating, THEY MAKE NEW PARTS ALL THE TIME! Like here are some examples: The 1969 Camaro set, they had a new 1x5 piece, a 1x1 that’s two studs high, and a whole new rim piece that connected to the SNOT bricks; that new ratchet joint that’s used in some Lego Ninjago sets and used in the Optimus Prime set; those new arm/leg joints for those themed Star Wars or marvel mechs. Do you consider those cheating? If you don’t want to get the set, fine, then don’t get the set, but you don’t have to ridicule them for trying their best when it comes to Lego Transformers

@MarkCerbo 28 күн бұрын

Still, not a licensed Volkswagen Beetle that Transformers Fans are not impressed about.

@joevictor53 28 күн бұрын

It didn't need to be a licensed Volkswagen Beetle. It just needed to more like one in car mode

@twinvts16 28 күн бұрын

Looks like a taxi. Even without good size source material everyone knows what a Beetle should look like

@joevictor53 28 күн бұрын

They should've gone bigger. It's already not to scale with Optimus so why not make it the same size and then they could've the car looking better

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure he wasn't a Beetle in G1. At least his original toy wasn't. It was just a tiny, unlicensed yellow car with a slot in the back for a coin.

@SockManAnims 27 күн бұрын

They don't have the license to make a VW beetle

@taqresu5865 27 күн бұрын

@@SockManAnims The original Bumblebee toy was never meant to be a VW beetle either, it was just a generic car with a gimmick play feature.

@furosutokira 27 күн бұрын

@@taqresu5865 The original toy *IS* a VW Beetle, the proportions are just squished

@gandalflotr2898 27 күн бұрын

If universal studios decides continue the original Lego movie story here my imagine how the plot goes after rex defeated Syspocalypstar was in peace and harmony until was attack by a group of Villains from the Hasbroveres (Megatron, Queen Chrysalis, Cobra Commander, Miles Mayham and Cy Kill) lead by the brickster Emmett and the Syspocalypstar Citizens try their best to defend themselves but they were to powerful most of them are taken prisoners only Emmett, Lucy, Batman, Unikitty ,Benny,President Business,Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi,General Sweet Mayhem and MetalBeard manage escape until they were surrounded by Megatron and Queen Chrysalis all hope seems lost until a truck run over on Megatron and it was Revealed to be non other than Optimus Prime leader of the Autobots and he was not alone the Alicorn princess Twilight Sparkle, Duke The Gi joe Agent ,Matt Trakker leader of M.A.S.K. and Leader one leader of the guardians they told them come with them they promised gonna help them rescue the others

@Kimvanloocke 27 күн бұрын

LEGO (10252) Volkswagen Beetle was allready made just needed a robot mode gun and color change

@marcch72 26 күн бұрын

That one would not be in scale with Optimus

@Kimvanloocke 26 күн бұрын

@@marcch72 make a bigger more detailed Optimus Prime

@marcch72 26 күн бұрын

@@Kimvanloocke go ahead and show me if you made one

@Kimvanloocke 26 күн бұрын

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@BraveLittlePixel 27 күн бұрын

Does anyone care about Bumblebee? Been a 90s Transformer fan for a while and only really noticed Bumblebee in the Bay movies. I'm so disappointed this wasn't a Megatron. Even just any of the casette tape gang would be a fun extra, but not this. Doesn't really look too cool as a car. It just doesn't have the same prowess that Optimus has in either form

@moshymosh 27 күн бұрын

People do. Don't worry. I am sure Megatron will be up next6 together with Starscream. I think they're doing it in duo's.

@furosutokira 27 күн бұрын

The probability Lego will make a Megatron set is really small, they don't make models based on military vehicles so no gun/tank mode. The only way to get around this is if they turn Megatron into a generic helicopter

@moshymosh 27 күн бұрын

Idk about this one, chief. I mean, it's well done, but it doesn't look that great. The car form is weird, and the transformation is more difficult that it needed to be.

@JopieHaargel 26 күн бұрын

I've seen this set get a lot of flak from people who like to piss vinegar. I think it's seriously impressive for its scale. Probably day one purchase.

@dat1guy314 28 күн бұрын

The parts forming is just bad, they could’ve had the windshields fold in half and be connected to the waists of bee, and have them as like side skirts or they could’ve had it able to unfold and wrap around to become a back skirt thing

@x-modulator4067 28 күн бұрын

They certainly could have worked it in better, but I don’t really blame them for taking that route as this is a daunting task for a designer, especially one that’s not entirely familiar with Transformers engineering. Judging by the connection point, I think you may be able to leave it attached, but it would make the chest lean back on the hinge in order for that to work. Still, would have been nice for the windshield to be always attached intentionally. Plus, it’s Lego so you could mod it however you want, I know that’s cliche but it is true none the less.

@alanyuppie 27 күн бұрын

I wont say the partsforming is bad coz its just one piece to be detached and reattached somewhere. But I agree that they can be handled better. I applied similar technique in my LEGO TF Crosshairs where I split his belly to be folded to the back of the bot mode.

@x-modulator4067 27 күн бұрын

@@alanyuppie Your input is much more reliable than mine as you are way better with designing Lego Transformers lol, but I agree fully.

@ivansmith654 27 күн бұрын

As disappointed as I am of Lego I believe Lego knows what to do to give us what we want, but Lego is to lazy to do what we want Lego does what Lego wants which is very little at time when it is most needed! Lego could start by not being so this skined about being wrong which their do all the time! I still enjoy your video a thumb up was given! Thanks paece!