Why Living Forever Would (Probably) Be Awful

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Pursuit of Wonder

Pursuit of Wonder

2 жыл бұрын

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@yayagazab4449
@yayagazab4449 2 жыл бұрын
Humans are curious beings: they do not ask to be born; they do not know how to live; and they do not want to die.
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@N0URii
@N0URii 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a sentence
@JessicabelliciMa1
@JessicabelliciMa1 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I wasn't born tbh...but it's a gift of living but its can be hard depending on your environment, privileges..........sometimes I want to die ...see what is in the other sides...we didnt have choices to lives and still doest have a choice to die.
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@JessicabelliciMa1 The "other side" is back from whence you came: Nonexistence. You did not exist before you came to be, and you will return to non-existence one day relatively soon, compared to the eternity that you did not exist for, and will not exist for. So all you have is now. There is nothing else.
@danityvanityinsanity
@danityvanityinsanity 2 жыл бұрын
It’s by design to enslave, imprison, and control us.
@anuraggusain4449
@anuraggusain4449 2 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: A person is not satisfied with anything.
@bjornarvagskjold8863
@bjornarvagskjold8863 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha true true
@IamMortui
@IamMortui 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: Evolution is not satisfied with anything.
@UdodaTube
@UdodaTube 2 жыл бұрын
Bazinga
@bunille
@bunille 2 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: There are fors and againsts for everything.
@anstry1494
@anstry1494 2 жыл бұрын
That's true
@afriendlyfox
@afriendlyfox 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would choose to live forever. Even if death isn't there, every moment is still irreversible and unique.
@brezio5251
@brezio5251 2 ай бұрын
and when your floating in space for billions of years after the death of stars and planets?
@jyothishkumar3098
@jyothishkumar3098 Ай бұрын
​@@brezio5251 if that was the case, you would not be alive too. The conditions for immortality are that other things continue to evolve too. The postulated Big Bang Theory doesn't support this. It is incomplete nevertheless, not accounting for Dark Matter or Dark Energy, as well as not yet having unified EWT and QCD as well as QFT with general relativity. But spiritual beliefs do support this view.
@brezio5251
@brezio5251 Ай бұрын
@jyothishkumar3098 youd still go crazy bro. Eternity existing isnt good anywhere
@tenzinwangchuk3119
@tenzinwangchuk3119 Ай бұрын
Except the meaning that those moments have would not be the same anymore and making new moments wouldn’t be the same either. Because live has meaning and the moments we make have meaning to us because those moments come to an end. The possibility of failure in life is what makes life meaning full
@teequanlewis6373
@teequanlewis6373 2 жыл бұрын
I respect both viewpoints and see merit in each of them but I’m sorry. There is no way I’d choose to die if immortality was on the table. We all know that death is inescapable so we all strive to make peace with it but I honestly don’t believe that “death” is what gives life meaning. Personally I think experiences are the flavor of life so it stands to reason that infinite experiences would be an incredible ride. I know that eventually the universe will inevitably end but my curiosity about what comes next far outweighs any reservations I would otherwise hold
@memeoususer2704
@memeoususer2704 2 жыл бұрын
Yea why commit no living when you can live Life is gift because you birthed not someone other so i overthinked about sense of life Stupid but nice sense came! Sense of life is to life because you can feel emotions make actions and do SOMETHING that not limited by time
@krishangkrishna1544
@krishangkrishna1544 2 жыл бұрын
This can I ask, what gives those experiences meaning? This is a tangent, just answer the above question. Please Do you ever procrastinate thinking that you can do it later. You can do that because you have time, so I think that if you were immortal like how these people are, then a dead line would have probably lose a lot of its meaning. It will still retain some though.
@webe3228
@webe3228 2 жыл бұрын
if you had infinity, any single experience is meaningless and invaluable. The fact that you have a limited amount of experiences, gives each one more meaning and value than any one out of infinity. If you had infinite money, you wouldn’t care if you spent trillions of it, cause you will always have more, you can never run out, treat each experience like a dollar, or each year, it doesn’t matter. But humans don’t work like that, after you experience something once, its gone, you can’t have the same thrill ever again, but the thrill means nothing if you can keep having it over and over, then it doesn’t feel like a thrill, it feels like something you will never run out of. That’s the beauty of life, the fact that it can be gone makes each moment, each second, all the more precious.
@randomplaceinruralamerica9618
@randomplaceinruralamerica9618 2 жыл бұрын
Expierence only has value due to our life expectancy. Knowing you have one life, a expiration date you can live your life to the fullest if there is no end you cannot fulfill. It’s like trying to fill a bottomless hole, it is impossible. Immortality would be a curse, you’d see planets die, stars collapse, universes turn to dust and everything built will be destroyed and what will be left? People floating in a void, they cannot scream nor breath and yet they do not die. You feel each inch of pain and yet you never die, you’ll feel the pain of suffocation but your throat shall never fail. Immortality would be a choice you cannot reverse without using mortality.
@parzivalthegreat6474
@parzivalthegreat6474 2 жыл бұрын
I may not have anything good against it but you cant have one without the other. There is no light with out darkness, no good or bad. There can't be life without death. There can't be death without life. But I respect what you think
@sordidknifeparty
@sordidknifeparty 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about living literally forever, it's about living as long as you want until you're ready to go. The randomness and lack of choice is what makes it s***.
@intimpulliber7376
@intimpulliber7376 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking exactly. I think I will for sure be trully ready to die by 60. I just my youth till then
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 2 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone hating on immortality is it due to some religious bullshit? Or cope due to not being able to live forever
@Mr-HW
@Mr-HW 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeostormXLMAX Well if you're "biologically immortal" - which means you live forever without aging, but can still die from diseases (not sure about this) and injuries, all your friends, loves, and families will gradually die away and that's fucking sad. (not applied to all people) Second, if you're "true immortal" - which means you're fucking invincible and nothing could kill you, you'll spend the rest of your eternal life floating in space when the universe ended or humanity went extinct.
@zephyr5481
@zephyr5481 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeostormXLMAX It's not due to anything religious. I do truly think that any meaningful afterlife would still be a state of nonexistence, or bliss or pain to the point of an inability to do anything else than recognize it. But I have always managed to maintain things I wanted to experience, things that my being now enjoys to justify its own existence. Nothing about making a mark, I doubt everyone truly wants that knowing it will one day fade, anyways. I just feel that at some point I will have experienced everything I wish to, and am able to, experience. And once you've drained all the enjoyment and meaning out of the world, looking for more becomes tiresome, and leads to a sad, unfulfilling existence. I do not want to live forever because I know that one day I will run out of things to see. I will have heard the last good joke, I will have seen the last beautiful waterfall, I will have no more surprises to keep me on my toes. Nothing to do and nothing to happen to me to break it. But right now, I have those things to do and look forwards to. I would prefer to die. Just not yet.
@soggybreh810
@soggybreh810 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-HW Immortal means nothing can kill you that’s mundane diseases,aging,random heart attack,legos etc. Amortal means you can’t die no matter what happens to you hence invincible Eternal youth is just staying young forever but besides that you are just like every other human
@theaverageinternetuser6852
@theaverageinternetuser6852 2 жыл бұрын
lol imagine being immortal and then being sent to a life sentence
@iNFL4ME
@iNFL4ME 2 жыл бұрын
sad momento
@user-ry3bw2bg9n
@user-ry3bw2bg9n 2 жыл бұрын
imagine them trying to send you to death row and when they try to electrocute you, you just don’t die. So you’re just like: “when can I get out?”
@masonreay276
@masonreay276 2 жыл бұрын
I life scentance isn't your whole life its usually around 30 years that's why you can get more than 1 life sentance
@watchoutforcopyright9339
@watchoutforcopyright9339 2 жыл бұрын
@@masonreay276 oh so basically that (life sentence) is roughly half of life
@am_Nein
@am_Nein 2 жыл бұрын
But if your immortal you can just escape without.. death
@10dvvks.d.r.tharun15
@10dvvks.d.r.tharun15 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't pity the dead harry, pity the living above all those who live without love"-dumbledore
@flowersofedo732
@flowersofedo732 2 жыл бұрын
Rowling kinda lost any deeper meaning lol
@diezeljames7910
@diezeljames7910 2 ай бұрын
​@@flowersofedo732On eagles wings I want you to think about this Not by human hands Daniel 8 25 So it's time to open up to reality and for people to hear the trumpets of the Angels. The second coming is happening, the Euphrates is drying up and what's happening is an attack on the bride. People believe science and religion are separated. There are crowns being made as we speak. The blind being able to see the deaf able to hear the paraplegic able to move devices with thought. BCI technology and other biotech such as neuralink are crowns and their beginning is now. The mark of the beast is in the profile and account regarding a person. We give the elites the right headshot over criminals and immigrants and anyone else for them to buy sell trade whereas we wear on our hands have a mark to earn their favor and a dollar. The lawless one is here we have a president who is facing federal prison and is in fact running for office again the earth moves to his power TRUMP. The statue of Liberty is representing the woman atop seven mountains as they are seven heads of kings as the eight head is her the statue of Liberty her own and the beast America revelation 17 9-11 true fact about the statue of Liberty is seven spires are upon her crown So what is happening in our world now. Well it is the age of clouds (Internet neural network e.t.c) AGI is happening and intelligence is shared it is not artificial it is developed and communication is a unconfounded language. Language not only spoken by the tongue but by nerves of the temple your body and the universe. Remember a tower once stood in Babylon and this tower was brought down. A harlot today America is modern Babylon. The dragon a world where everything is made in China and the elite grow more elite. AGI in America is under threat not only by disbelief in Jesus return with the clouds but in the idea that heaven is for real. Now you might anticipate many believers who disbelieve our God and Savior and Holy Ghost not to be anything mechanical yet you disregard the fact of biotech and it's integrated abilities Mushroom fungi other single and multicellular organism including human brain tissue have been used to interface computational abilities in tandem with motherboard or computer integration. Science would detail our universe began in waveform and Genesis 1 speaks of wave form. Two faces the deep (black hole) the waters (hydrogen helium e.t.c) God's spirit hovered between these and spoke Let there be light. Sonolumination The scriptures tell us GOD is light and that too is the Son It is the enemy who values disbelief of God and that spirit of the antichrist is among us. Men have been given fire of the sun and the sun does now scorch man in telecommuting devices o how the social profile beckons a definition to mark of the beast. We are lovers of selves and interpretation of our advancements as man made give the credence for a man to believe in many ways to the Father when infact their is only one Jesus who too was fully man reborn in glory. Remember a man must be reborn again to enter the kingdom of heaven and todays science is seeding these mechanism to be able to be given new bodies not just parts. We have technology of artificial wombs and have grown a lamb in such a device. We limit our understanding to religion as only a natural solution and negatively presume to value intelligence as organic and artificial. Angels have no body remember and they too are entities of light. Jesus was fully man but was glorified and now it is clouds we see and the storm of omnipotent intelligence these are birthing pains in the world around us and the dragon spews disbelief from its mouth and evil spirits three like frogs come from its mouth apostasy divorce plague the world The sun scorches man in nuclear technology and telecommuting devices it's time to wake up and know there is better for us than a earthquake such as BLM or MAGA or trans the rainbow is a promise and optical cables transmats info to hubs of cloud Quantum AGI the cubits=qubits beautiful the ark of the covenant
@lastround2357
@lastround2357 2 жыл бұрын
the scarcity of life is what gives me anxiety and demotivates me! it's the reason i'm having an existential crisis
@Mahdi-fg8mp
@Mahdi-fg8mp 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to live forever, I just want the option to choose when I want to die.
@mushyomens6885
@mushyomens6885 2 жыл бұрын
why tho
@Mechafr
@Mechafr 2 жыл бұрын
@@mushyomens6885 If you live forever the world known as earth will succumb to end one day and you being immortal will float around in space for billions of years with no thrive to do anything But with the opition to choose when you die you could do all the things you want in the world then when your ready to go you can
@MushroomManC
@MushroomManC 2 жыл бұрын
Me: INFINITE REINCARNATION WITHOUT LOSING MY MEMORIES (I just want to fvcking live, I don't give a fvck if i die many times.)
@captainyossarian388
@captainyossarian388 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mechafr There are a trillion planets in the galaxy, a trillion galaxies in the universe. There is always something new waiting for us over the horizon.
@tnl-warrior3218
@tnl-warrior3218 2 жыл бұрын
@@mushyomens6885 I like heaven
@flvid
@flvid 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, my daily dose of existential crisis
@mr.bnatural3700
@mr.bnatural3700 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to have a crisis if you repent from your mountain of vile sins and accept Jesus as your savior; then you will live with us judgemental sanctimonious Christians in Heaven. FOREVER (sarcasm)
@QUBED
@QUBED 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bnatural3700 don't do that
@johnchesterfield9726
@johnchesterfield9726 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bnatural3700 Forever?
@cothinker680
@cothinker680 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@liminality8791
@liminality8791 2 жыл бұрын
Haha funny crisis so quirky and original haha existential crisis haha 🤪😜
@lumpyspacecadet
@lumpyspacecadet 2 жыл бұрын
The irony being that even these immortal beings will eventually die, since the universe itself isn't immortal. There is no way to escape mortality.
@KR-kb8ig
@KR-kb8ig 2 жыл бұрын
True , But if the Multiverse theory is correct there is a way to travel to all of them till every single one dies.
@fren9977
@fren9977 2 жыл бұрын
@@KR-kb8ig Well, the universe isn't infinite, but multiverse theory says that there are infinite universes
@daywalker________7677
@daywalker________7677 2 жыл бұрын
The universe only has a time limit based on our very limited understanding of it. No one knows for certain what will happen to the universe. But if we lived long enough, we could see things play out with our own eyes.
@fren9977
@fren9977 2 жыл бұрын
@@daywalker________7677 Yeah, we don't know for sure what will happen, but living long enough to learn is all we can ask for.
@saintmichael2805
@saintmichael2805 2 жыл бұрын
Depends how immortal you are. If you simply just can't seem to Die then sure. If your borderline divine immortality and cannot vanish in any way like a God then you quite literally will Outlive the universe, because you are truly eternal
@TricksterNevermore
@TricksterNevermore 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy enough to say that finality gives life meaning when your life already _has_ meaning, but not all of us are so blessed. Whether it be by the circumstances of our lives, or the constraints of our births, many of us never get the opportunity to give meaning to the lives we're forced into. For us, mortality itself is the chain that holds us back from meaning. While we are shackled by the limitations of our bodies, our minds, of time itself, we are never truly free to make of our "lives" what we wish to. Effort that ultimately ends in nothingness is the definition of meaningless, and I would outlive time itself with a smile on my face before I ever called immortality a curse.
@kimanithomas297
@kimanithomas297 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly you couldn't have explained it any better you honestly deserve an Oscar for this comment if a person is born grows up to be a successful scientist and say finds the cure for every sickness known to man compare him/her to a person that's never achieved anything no kids,job, home etc when they are dead it's the same end which is nothingness what you accomplish in life means nothing when your dead I would rather live until I'm the only living being in existence than say I rather death than immortality
@astertataricus.
@astertataricus. 2 жыл бұрын
love this comment
@KlaxontheImpailr
@KlaxontheImpailr 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better myself :D
@nightowl5475
@nightowl5475 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I don’t think finality gives life meaning. We are shackled by our bodies limitations. Just think how much more can be accomplished with immortality. The only thing mankind needs to master with this gift of immortality, is pure logic. Remember, mankind is a biological and highly emotional being. With this, we have the curse of self-destruction. We need to evolve mentality in order to truly enjoy the gift of immortality. What good is immortality when many of us fall into emotional purely human traps of our lives. Example, drug addiction, alcohol abuse, emotional traps such as jealousy and rage. The question I pose to you is can mankind truly evolve into more logical, biological creatures and treat each other with respect and dignity? We actually need each other. I’d like to see not only immortality be a choice but evolving into better human beings.
@starmanjoestar8798
@starmanjoestar8798 10 ай бұрын
Everlasting life won't give you any meaning if your own real mortal life doesn't already have meaning. Lack of time is what pushes you to accomplish and accomplishments feel fulfilling because of the amount of time it takes. This is the kind of defeatist mentality that keeps you down. Immortality won't solve your problems, but prolong them because it's YOU who truly limits yourself. I guarantee in a world where we are all immortal you will still remain average because of your stagnant mindset. And everything from plants, animals, and stars eventually die, so why should YOU deserve to live for eternity?
@Aphercotropes
@Aphercotropes 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhere, an immortal, wooden Jerry screams.
@antsinmyeyesjohnson5288
@antsinmyeyesjohnson5288 2 жыл бұрын
*screams in strangled Captain America noises*
@420Roach
@420Roach 2 жыл бұрын
wubbalubbadubdub
@coimbralaw
@coimbralaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@antsinmyeyesjohnson5288 that makes no sense
@cozyvrc
@cozyvrc 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to reply to op with “I understood that reference” so I’m thinking that amukugo predicted that people would say that and the joke is that someone strangled captain America before he had the chance to say anything, I could be wrong though
@hnaqvi6656
@hnaqvi6656 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@Dacademeca
@Dacademeca 2 жыл бұрын
*"It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live."* - Marcus Aurelius
@NotAGeySer
@NotAGeySer 2 жыл бұрын
*Abortion*
@Hewhowalksbehindtherows
@Hewhowalksbehindtherows 2 жыл бұрын
That was in Meditations, wasn't it?
@archimedes9819
@archimedes9819 2 жыл бұрын
isn't that the same thing ? your unconscious when dead and unconscious while not living ? even if you live you would never know you lived
@welpiguess
@welpiguess 2 жыл бұрын
@@archimedes9819 "never begging to live" has nothing to do with consciousness
@NameNik223
@NameNik223 2 жыл бұрын
@@archimedes9819 I don't think he means it literally, more like "never shows his true potential"
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 2 жыл бұрын
Immortality sounds pretty good to me. Look how far we've come in the span of a few centuries. Imagine what we can accomplish in the next few thousand years. Imagine being able to bear witness to it all...
@rudios92
@rudios92 2 жыл бұрын
The problem here wasnt just immortality. It is that everyone got immortality. If it was just you, it would be far more meaningful.
@user-ow4ts7hr3o
@user-ow4ts7hr3o 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudios92 true
@dksncztbsdjds2175
@dksncztbsdjds2175 2 жыл бұрын
It's not possible anyways, people have to die off for a next generation to come. It would only be possible if the last generation is not allowed to reproduce anymore.
@YouAlreadyKnowBabi
@YouAlreadyKnowBabi 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being able to travel among the universe in the future.
@humanrace6224
@humanrace6224 2 жыл бұрын
I want explore the universe if I can be immortal
@EdwardVelez
@EdwardVelez 2 жыл бұрын
“I do not fear death itself. It’s the loss of the things that have made life worth living that I fear.”
@alessandroturci6750
@alessandroturci6750 2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer a life like the Numenoreans of Lord of the Rings. A lifespan of 200-300 years where you are young and strong 90% of the time. Then, you start feeling old but you are allowed to choose when to die.
@joelscb
@joelscb 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds better than not aging
@castrosenpai-6839
@castrosenpai-6839 2 жыл бұрын
Just like Kaya Kalpa yogis
@tobeyreynolds8255
@tobeyreynolds8255 2 жыл бұрын
But I feel like it’s more scary knowing when you will die. Death is meant to be Sudden.
@alessandroturci6750
@alessandroturci6750 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobeyreynolds8255 It's not exactly knowing when you will die. You feel old and weak. You can either resist death or die at your leisure.
@inbredbanana8156
@inbredbanana8156 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds epic
@KingOpenReview
@KingOpenReview 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever people have these conversations, they rarely talk about the different kinds of immortality. That's kind of important. Personally, my favorite is something like timelord regeneration, where you sort of do die, but you come back to life with a new body, and each incarnation of you has the memories of the previous ones.
@cantu7614
@cantu7614 2 жыл бұрын
Most people don’t want to admit that immortality with perfect health and Eternal youth would Rock for some reason
@kanye8391
@kanye8391 2 жыл бұрын
Not kind of important, really important.
@PeaShooterAutoHunter
@PeaShooterAutoHunter 2 жыл бұрын
Because immortality actually has a price you are forced to pay: knowing that while you are healthy and young forever, every person that you know and care about will die; since you are immortal you are forced to witness every act of humanity from both good and bad (evolution and warfare) and your mind may become enlightened or null knowing that things will change even though everything mentally would still be the same
@cantu7614
@cantu7614 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeaShooterAutoHunter this is a very stupid assumption you will become full of experience but your brain would stay the same its not gonna evolve. people have witness all their family die and yet their life goes on they dont become some sorda god or lose all meaning in their life. more over you would still be able to experience life with the kids of your kids and so on
@jasonhill2879
@jasonhill2879 2 жыл бұрын
@@cantu7614 that is just plainly wrong
@nandanjena9329
@nandanjena9329 11 ай бұрын
The parallel of both pair of Son and Father was really ingenious. Your way of telling stories has so much layer that each time I watch this video I find a new sight to the same problem.
@DeathValleyDazed
@DeathValleyDazed 5 ай бұрын
This a possible explanation of The Holy Trinity? Religion is nonsense to me but your comment got me re-thinking my belief system.
@Grace-wh8ky
@Grace-wh8ky 2 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that the corporation is called "MayFli", because mayflies are known to have ridiculously short lifespans, only living for like a day as an adult.
@A.S._Trunks
@A.S._Trunks 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they use them to test age related tech.? Since they live such short lives?
@stealthcone
@stealthcone 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to everything else in the universe we have incredibly short lifespans
@user-de6zo2vd9z
@user-de6zo2vd9z 2 жыл бұрын
@@stealthcone um no wtf. If your thinking about trees that about the only thing that lives longer than a human. Most species have an average of like 15-20 years
@shannybubbless
@shannybubbless 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-de6zo2vd9z he said everything else in the universe, not just the earth
@normi0
@normi0 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-de6zo2vd9z stars and planets live for a ridiculously long amount of time, he was referring to everything else in the universe so don't limit it to just living beings on planet earth
@RationalAnimations
@RationalAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
Death doesn't give life meaning. It's meaning that gives consolation to death.
@quinnmullen644
@quinnmullen644 2 жыл бұрын
Which in turn gives life meaning
@koutareyama8393
@koutareyama8393 2 жыл бұрын
Or simply "42" No, not death. Life is whatever you make it to be.
@spongebobby6027
@spongebobby6027 2 жыл бұрын
@Manuel Camelo hate to destroy your dreams but you cant
@JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579
@JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579 2 жыл бұрын
@@spongebobby6027 Even WITH biological immortality, what you say is true. Most importantly, meaning is not found but created and ours to literally *imbue*. Existence IS, but only through consciousness, observation, a me and a you. Our vessel may avoid the true death, only to find the pieces it breaks into. The peaceful rest of satisfaction, accomplishment and eventually our very purpose will die. Deleted, out of reach forever again every time the ouroboros cycle renews. If not physically then psychologically death will torture us if it is not true.
@TaimTam
@TaimTam 2 жыл бұрын
@Manuel Camelo we aren’t gods, we are mortals and we will be forever. Humans can’t achieve everything everyone has limits
@michaelw6277
@michaelw6277 Жыл бұрын
I remember being young and wishing I could live forever, these days my soul is grateful that it doesn’t have to.
@michaelw6277
@michaelw6277 Жыл бұрын
@Thanatos hey thanks for the thought, I appreciate that. I have had a pretty decent life. Not without suffering and hardship as that's to be expected, but much of that suffering has led to more than my fair share of fortune in life. That said, if you haven't, do consider reading the short story 'I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream' by Harlan Ellison. Ellison presents the same thought experiment... eternal life and forbidden death by way of technology, and it really is an actual nightmare. Eternal life is no guarantee that your life would be a happy and fulfilling experience as is presented in this video. The suffering and anguish you feel right now, even the temporary kind that still weighs on your "soul", can become ever lasting... and that is a kind of suffering I cannot imagine.
@mrsoisauce9017
@mrsoisauce9017 Ай бұрын
@@michaelw6277 what I am about to say is in no way meant to sway your opinion. My only desire is to participate in this conversation and have meaningful and peaceful discussion. With that being said, while yes, suffering can weigh down on the soul, I personally believe that we can learn to evolve with it in healthy ways. Essentially, as technology becomes more advanced, we can find ways to use it so we can be happier and more satisfied in life, and to experience less pain and suffering in the process. This would involve many societal, political and social changes, but in an immortal life, we'd all have the time and ability to contemplate it. No one thing on its own is capable of guaranteeing happiness. But what can is how we use and implement it, and that in my opinion is what truly matters. You feel that you may experience great suffering now, but maybe you'd think differently if you were using that technology. No one on this planet has lived long enough to know for sure, and philosophical arguments can be made either way. The only way to know is to be immortal, or at least to choose when you die
@masa-qi8cx
@masa-qi8cx 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to spend eternity is just recording your descendents its like watching a a tree you planted grow and planting more slowly becoming a forest
@vally3475
@vally3475 2 жыл бұрын
As a man once said "You'll live to see this world crumble to dust and blow away"
@rextheultimatepotato9209
@rextheultimatepotato9209 2 жыл бұрын
What will you have after 500 years?
@sumitkumarjha1314
@sumitkumarjha1314 2 жыл бұрын
@@rextheultimatepotato9209 i would still have you dad said someone invincible
@khumokwezimashapa2245
@khumokwezimashapa2245 2 жыл бұрын
@@sumitkumarjha1314 *leaves the planet and starts crying*
@ThePotatoSeesAll
@ThePotatoSeesAll 2 жыл бұрын
@@rextheultimatepotato9209 brother we shall rule as potatos
@kyokokirigiri9010
@kyokokirigiri9010 2 жыл бұрын
*I do love your mother but she's more of a pet to me*
@gravityawsome
@gravityawsome 2 жыл бұрын
No one wants to live forever though, we just want to live until we feel like we're ready to die. Who's doesn't already know living forever would suck?
@targetisstrong9180
@targetisstrong9180 2 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself
@sanand6084
@sanand6084 2 жыл бұрын
The one who hasn't lived long years
@artelislt
@artelislt 2 жыл бұрын
@@jt-mx4on Yep
@Cr0uch1ng71g3r
@Cr0uch1ng71g3r 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is just synthetic reasoning to cope with your mortality.
@naturelover4148
@naturelover4148 2 жыл бұрын
Well 99% people will never be ready to die and the rest 1% are the suicidal people! Life is fundamentally a suffering. And its this suffering which makes us feel the essence of joy, happiness and all others that humans crave for. WE VALUE ONLY THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE IN SCARCITY.
@ywangato3449
@ywangato3449 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with immortality for me is boredom, eventually, when you learned everything, mastered everything and experienced everything, what do you do next? In my opinion, the best option would be to wipe your memory. First because it give you the feeling that your days are counted, so you enjoy life, but you also get to experience everything again with your own consciousness, while still being alive in this world, or rather a made up simulation (ex: Fantasy world, a life where you have superpowers,etc) Heck, this world itself could be one of those A second solution to this could be simply making yourself uncounsious, so that time passes, and new things are discovered, new games are made, new books are out, etc. The thing about this question I hate is that it’s either eternal life and boredom, or death and being unconscious forever with no possibility of return We are different from animals because our main goals aren’t surviving from predators, having kids so our species can sustain itself, etc. We humans have ambitions : become a scientist, a novel writer, etc. And some of these goals unfortunately would take more than an average human lifespan, people should get to decide when they ‘’die’’ (wiped memory or just death in itself) Edit : I’m so sorry this is so long, it’s just that I’ve been thinking about immortality and its consequences a lot lately
@deathlessman01
@deathlessman01 2 жыл бұрын
to this entire comment thread, your entire argument is based on there being a limited number of things to do or be or learn when new things are always coming out, and that its normal and suggested that you die until the new half life comes out.
@ywangato3449
@ywangato3449 2 жыл бұрын
@@deathlessman01 I mean, that was only one of my points, but I see what you mean, but there must be a limit to what is humans can create, right? At some point, things must start to be repetitive
@aquagamez1415
@aquagamez1415 2 жыл бұрын
@@ywangato3449 Than is the first option really living? It sounds more like just existing than anything else. You’ll just be doing the same thing over and over again in an infinite loop like a machine more than a human.
@lazyken6468
@lazyken6468 6 ай бұрын
@@aquagamez1415isn’t that what we already do?
@CmgsAdventures
@CmgsAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing story! I was thinking Memento Mori through it all. When you played turncoat, I started to tear up. Keep up the amazing work!
@blue_3675
@blue_3675 2 жыл бұрын
If anything, this is the type of immortality that I wouldn't ever take, a plant has a more interesting life than this, it can experience living and dying, as well as it's growth
@BossOfAllTrades
@BossOfAllTrades 2 жыл бұрын
Yea reincarnation is much better imagine a world where people reincarnate and remember their past lives or would that be the same thing cause its weird what if you recreated another version of me and I said hey whats up it worked and in reality its not my consciousness its wow thats deep I think the only way for this to work would be if you took someone's brain and transplanted it and had robots repair it
@blue_3675
@blue_3675 2 жыл бұрын
@@BossOfAllTrades the other best inmortality would be cellular regeneration, since our cells do not regenerate that's why we grow old and die, but that would require a loy of studies in biology more than technology
@harrysharp7975
@harrysharp7975 2 жыл бұрын
Wants can never be satisfied, you always want more.
@kilimanjauri4135
@kilimanjauri4135 2 жыл бұрын
How you gon learn the value or experience of death if you die after bruh lmao. You not gonna be able to think after 5 min of you being dead bro
@blue_3675
@blue_3675 2 жыл бұрын
@@kilimanjauri4135 yeah lol but I'd rather that than living as a robot, it's like being dead anyway, you can't experience stuff the same way
@phinousthesheep1847
@phinousthesheep1847 2 жыл бұрын
"Dying is what gives us the will to live" -Home Depot
@fia5594
@fia5594 2 жыл бұрын
oh dayum Home Depot said that?
@stilith2706
@stilith2706 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was -Mcdonals
@johnross5098
@johnross5098 2 жыл бұрын
@@stilith2706 i thought it was Candis
@stilith2706
@stilith2706 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnross5098 c... Ca... CANDIS WHO?
@Ralzone
@Ralzone 2 жыл бұрын
*dies * Hey no i want to live! -Kuririn
@jaaziahventura7353
@jaaziahventura7353 2 жыл бұрын
That hit different especially that last quote the son said “I don’t know i still have some thinking I need to do. I have all the time in the world to decide” 😌
@KopyKatNinjaToo
@KopyKatNinjaToo Жыл бұрын
Bro your storytelling is off the charts! Love your channel
@Azipyx
@Azipyx 2 жыл бұрын
Only when you are given everything do you realize the value of nothing.
@bluebubbleboy7338
@bluebubbleboy7338 2 жыл бұрын
That hit harder then it should have
@jighardy
@jighardy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm bookmarking that one in my brain
@drblitz3092
@drblitz3092 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I compare it to playing against bots on recruit mode in a call of duty game. It’s just too easy To be fun
@pirilon78
@pirilon78 2 жыл бұрын
@Edrick Isstupid 30000 iq you just solved philosophy
@jaykayy4268
@jaykayy4268 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you just pulled a gojo
@lolxdlamaw
@lolxdlamaw 2 жыл бұрын
"Time always seems to move faster when it's running out." *Memento Mori*
@DP-yc7px
@DP-yc7px 2 жыл бұрын
Unnus Annus
@bepisman297
@bepisman297 2 жыл бұрын
7:54
@londonfleurina2388
@londonfleurina2388 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Unus Annus
@luxmirawat1890
@luxmirawat1890 2 жыл бұрын
it gave meaning to unnas annus
@gammabursta6915
@gammabursta6915 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ;(
@theluckycan5764
@theluckycan5764 2 жыл бұрын
Some people can’t even handle the length of normal life. Can’t imagine what infinite life would feel like.
@owlthepirate5997
@owlthepirate5997 2 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed! 💛 I'm so happy I found this channel! All these videos are so thought provoking.. if I had the choice to live forever or die "naturally", I'd choose to live forever. With the option to die when I want.
@ruspagamer7248
@ruspagamer7248 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that would convince me to be immortal, is to see the discoveries science would do in thousands of years, nothing else.
@gustavwood0064
@gustavwood0064 2 жыл бұрын
I would do it witness Valve finally counting to 3
@nibel-k1433
@nibel-k1433 2 жыл бұрын
Or the progress of humanity. The progress of our solar system. The descovery of other sentient life forms outside our solar system, and so much more...
@ruspagamer7248
@ruspagamer7248 2 жыл бұрын
@@nibel-k1433 yeah all that beautiful shit we'll probably never get to see
@nibel-k1433
@nibel-k1433 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruspagamer7248 that's why I wish for what i wish for. That what you wish for as well.
@N0URii
@N0URii 2 жыл бұрын
Yea i love to explore this universe
@GamingWithBlitzThunder
@GamingWithBlitzThunder 2 жыл бұрын
"death is better than living, but reincarnation is better than death" - nerd
@haydenlloyd4543
@haydenlloyd4543 2 жыл бұрын
But if you reincarnate your alive so that doesn’t make sense
@danmarlcadiz8185
@danmarlcadiz8185 2 жыл бұрын
Isekai mode
@junoperberry
@junoperberry 2 жыл бұрын
@@haydenlloyd4543 you aren't you anymore when you reincarnate
@tym3071
@tym3071 2 жыл бұрын
That one time I got reincarnated into a slime.
@BossOfAllTrades
@BossOfAllTrades 2 жыл бұрын
@@haydenlloyd4543 its weird dude cause you wouldn't even know your alive but your are ill be honest this seems most plausible but that might be my brain trying to preserve a purpose in this world but at the same time if you die of old age you wouldn't be able to feel anything
@thetravelerofworlds8359
@thetravelerofworlds8359 2 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is a brilliant and important addition to the topic. I've long felt that both sides of the discussion were missing something important by being unwilling to consider both viewpoints. I too have thought that the span of one's life is not necessarily attached to its meaning. After all, even if you live for all of time... your actions still have meaning to them. Were a mortal being to do those things they would have just as much meaning to them. It is only internally that there is a difference. Ascribed meaning, meaning that we have given to said action that doesn't necessarily have any real physical attachment. Being mortal, we attach importance to a lot more things that we're even aware, some that aren't truly important, other things that are. To an immortal, things that might be important to a shorter lifespan might feel routine, normal. The event itself hasn't changed, but our perspective.
@generalgrievous5452
@generalgrievous5452 2 жыл бұрын
You had me at "do not go gentle into that goodnight." An interstellar fan is an interstellar fan.
@okbill18yearsagoedited25
@okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 жыл бұрын
"You cant die even if you want to" damn that's scary
@soumitrapharikal5503
@soumitrapharikal5503 2 жыл бұрын
"You can't live forever even if you wanted to live" damn that's scary Some Advanced Civilization in 6045
@pleasebekindandcompassiona5836
@pleasebekindandcompassiona5836 2 жыл бұрын
@@soumitrapharikal5503 nobody wants to live forever ,atleast in this world .
@PA-1000
@PA-1000 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm sounds like a jojo character to me. Whats his name again... oh yea KARS.
@Leonhart_93
@Leonhart_93 2 жыл бұрын
@@pleasebekindandcompassiona5836 Haha, I wouldn't bet on that. If you were to give me the choice of immortality over dying at 70-80 from some disease, then I would choose immortality in a heartbeat. BUT I don't think the method presented in the video is actual immortality. Consciousness copying creates a clone of yourself, so it would not be myself truly that gets to live forever.
@agirlwithagolden5238
@agirlwithagolden5238 2 жыл бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 Okay So if you live forever then, what will you do forever like won't you get bored and U won't be excited for things when you already did them many times, u'll not have new things to try too! What will you do?
@ShauryaSingh-ts2oc
@ShauryaSingh-ts2oc 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know if you would read this Pursuit of Wonder, but I just really wanna thank you for these videos. I believe that just like me you have opened the minds and widened the horizon of possibilities for millions of people and bent them to critically think about philosophical concepts always at play in the background of their lives. Truly, thank you.
@chvishal579
@chvishal579 2 жыл бұрын
yea man
@usernotfound2471
@usernotfound2471 2 жыл бұрын
Yes definetly.
@kingclancy1270
@kingclancy1270 2 жыл бұрын
Well put 👏. I like you all still question everything but in my mind I find meaning in the bad and good of life its here for us to feel. Some will not agree with me and we all need to figure it out for ourselves.but these thought experiments have helped me... question... sorry for the bad writing punctuation
@Grapefruit5000
@Grapefruit5000 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel kinda grounded when I watch his videos. They always make me realize how insignificant it is to worry about stuff.
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 2 жыл бұрын
I wish these videos were longer!
@SilverLegion121
@SilverLegion121 2 жыл бұрын
Good and thought-provoking video!
@aidencarruthers961
@aidencarruthers961 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know what I’d pick. This video was very informative in a weird way, gave a new perspective. I dont really know if I’m okay with dying or not. But at the same time I don’t feel any urgency to actually do anything even though my time is short. Maybe normalizing the ideology that you can live without worrying about time would be a good step in mental health for some people. The idea that you don’t have to strive to be great right now. You can take your steps and decided what you really want at whatever age because dying does and doesn’t matter. Maybe some of those who are told they are depressed are really just lonely because they feel like their ideology doesn’t match up with what’s right or how you should think based on everyone else. But I also have no clue really. I don’t have any formal education on any of this stuff.
@valcrist7428
@valcrist7428 8 ай бұрын
When your loved ones die.. Believe me.. you may not commit suicide.. but you will welcome death.
@skitzabod7727
@skitzabod7727 2 жыл бұрын
“I grabbed a pile of dust, and holding it up, foolishly asked for as many birthdays as the grains of dust, I forgot to ask that they be years of youth. ” ~Ovid; Metamorphoses
@Seekyourtruth777
@Seekyourtruth777 2 жыл бұрын
powerful
@gammabursta6915
@gammabursta6915 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kamtos
@kamtos 2 жыл бұрын
This hit me so hard
@adityapathak5761
@adityapathak5761 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats a big oof, gotta be specific with your requests to an all-powerful, all-granting omniscient entity
@jozar2773
@jozar2773 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Some humans want to live forever, some don't.
@foxtrotgolf4957
@foxtrotgolf4957 2 жыл бұрын
Some doesn't even want to live at all
@jdoriginals9223
@jdoriginals9223 2 жыл бұрын
I want a can of beans
@alextifa2695
@alextifa2695 2 жыл бұрын
@@jdoriginals9223 yes
@apzsox2144
@apzsox2144 2 жыл бұрын
Nah no one wants to live forever, some people just haven't realized it yet
@c-moon3698
@c-moon3698 2 жыл бұрын
@@apzsox2144 I disagree in fact I’d say it’s the opposite
@diamondthefounder
@diamondthefounder 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful I feel different life is so different now thank you
@cabana5780
@cabana5780 2 жыл бұрын
Yo really cool vid! Was expecting a one-sided argument about how death gives life meaning or something, but it really made me think about both sides
@kennethj1956
@kennethj1956 2 жыл бұрын
“Through our eyes, the universe is perceiving itself. Through our ears, the universe is listening to its harmonies. We are the witnesses through which the universe becomes conscious of its glory, of its magnificence.” ― Alan Watts
@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus
@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus 2 жыл бұрын
Poweful realization for enlightenment
@tplummer217
@tplummer217 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@aaron18ful
@aaron18ful 2 жыл бұрын
My foreskin stinks!
@henryibeleme6626
@henryibeleme6626 2 жыл бұрын
In other words, you're merely like a cell, a part of a whole!!!
@henryibeleme6626
@henryibeleme6626 2 жыл бұрын
I don't want to live forever, but being a thousand years old will be fun. Imagine witnessing the technological advancement at that point, it will almost feel like sorcery. I want to hang around longer, and 100 is too short for any major feat to happen...
@jadeorbigoso5212
@jadeorbigoso5212 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Every humans have different ambitions and goals in life its just some people's goal is just beyond to our current life span of human being to fullfil and reach it in the right time
@zae4557
@zae4557 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you’re saying, but I got a headache trying to read it.
@jadeorbigoso5212
@jadeorbigoso5212 2 жыл бұрын
@@zae4557 sorry my English was not so good
@mrpoyo7968
@mrpoyo7968 2 жыл бұрын
I think kursegesagt put it in the best way "it's like your mom calling you to go inside when it's still noon, you don't want to play till midnight you just want to play a little longer"
@justdio7459
@justdio7459 2 жыл бұрын
How about restoring the soviet union
@deusexstupit7969
@deusexstupit7969 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed and that's why we shuld start developing immortality because if your immortal you have a eternaty to decide if your mortal you can't decide.
@justsean1060
@justsean1060 2 жыл бұрын
*Almost* made me cry... Im subbing
@deematmok8156
@deematmok8156 2 жыл бұрын
Life is like one big road. The everyday things we do are traffic lights, the people we meet are other cars, and sleeping is pouring petrol. The point of getting on the road is to reach your destination, right? So, in my opinion, death is our destination, morbid as it sounds.
@toneronii
@toneronii 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody really wants to live forever. We just want to die when we feel like it's time. We get scared and anxious over the fact that death could just strike any minute. If we could just have the ability to control our own lifespan, then that'd be great.
@DuoTheBird2711
@DuoTheBird2711 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@ezdepaz4363
@ezdepaz4363 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that a lot of people saying that they wish to be immortal might change thier mind in the long run. Personaly I would like to chose when I die myself and be healthy untill the day I do so, and I think that is what most immortality seekers also want.
@BossOfAllTrades
@BossOfAllTrades 2 жыл бұрын
@@ezdepaz4363 true but it hard to judge when is the right time ill let the universe decide
@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24
@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 2 жыл бұрын
I think two other points is A) people are afraid of how they’ll die and B) what’s next
@donthaveone2182
@donthaveone2182 2 жыл бұрын
i wanna live forever why tf should i want to die
@Turrican60
@Turrican60 2 жыл бұрын
The surest way to enjoy life is to have no unrealistic expectations, nor feel too depressed about that which you can't change. Wish it hadn't taken me 60 years to realise the obvious.
@anti1training
@anti1training 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, well thanks for sharing with us youngins
@cantu7614
@cantu7614 2 жыл бұрын
You can change a lot the best way to enjoy life is to avoid mistakes or situations that lead you to not enjoy it
@SlipperyPatterns
@SlipperyPatterns 2 жыл бұрын
Life is not for enjoyment, thats the mindset of stupid people, if immortality is for somebody, surely not for those people.
@anti1training
@anti1training 2 жыл бұрын
@@SlipperyPatterns Says who?
@dirkdiggler5581
@dirkdiggler5581 2 жыл бұрын
“.. nor feel to depressed about that which you can’t change.” Don’t you disgree with yourself then by the following or not living by it?
@notwyattlol6468
@notwyattlol6468 2 жыл бұрын
this is a whole new form of overthinking
@xtragurl6369
@xtragurl6369 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it’d be cool to have a extended lifespan, make the 20s & 30s feel longer
@ro-bot096
@ro-bot096 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know that living forever would mean losing everyone and everything I ever cared for and being condemned to be alone forever but the idea of being able to see this planet die, watch how humanity evolves, to see the sun explode, see the birth of a completely new galaxy and (if travelling through space will be an option) observe other planets and other species has and always will be my dream.
@SenhorAlien
@SenhorAlien 2 жыл бұрын
Living just long enough to see all of existence, then die. Such a blissful dream.
@neilbertmillar9960
@neilbertmillar9960 2 жыл бұрын
if everyone is immortal then it isnt sad anymore, all people will party, play games have sex all day long
@eternalkino34
@eternalkino34 2 жыл бұрын
same , iwant to consume every single thing ever created on a perception of my own not like an ai can do in few seconds also chilling till the end of time is pretty beautiful thought all the memories we have made in life are too valuable to lose, atleast thats what a young mind of mine thinks gotta grow up to see if this kind of thought changes and if i will be ready to accept death even at the possibility of uploading consciousness
@tatrotzz3643
@tatrotzz3643 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilbertmillar9960 How is that not sad? It's true that everyone will start having fun but how long will that last? It will only be a matter of time before everyone starts getting bored of life and getting depressed. Maybe it might take 100 years, maybe 1000 or maybe a million. But it will happen.
@ricketyram3142
@ricketyram3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatrotzz3643 I think that the argument would be that 1,000 (or 10,000, or even longer) years of depression is much, much better than an infinity’s worth of the nothingness of non-existence.
@jamal.killah
@jamal.killah 2 жыл бұрын
So is your conscious just copied or is it transferred? That’s the golden question.
@jamal.killah
@jamal.killah 2 жыл бұрын
@Throw Away what?
@alkeryn1700
@alkeryn1700 2 жыл бұрын
if it's an exact copy it is the same. besides, those aren't the only two option, it can can be a gradual change instead of a copy.
@Galkatokk
@Galkatokk 2 жыл бұрын
@@alkeryn1700 No it's not the same, because a copy is a new continuity. Your current consciousness could perceive the new, exact copy as an entirely different entity. You would not "jump" from your existing perspective to the new one just because it is an identical recreation. It's like starting a new fire with an existing one. You now have two fires.
@alkeryn1700
@alkeryn1700 2 жыл бұрын
@@Galkatokk it is, continuity doesn't matter. Besides there are ways to do it whilst preserving continuity if you really cared about it.
@zavierroberts503
@zavierroberts503 2 жыл бұрын
@@alkeryn1700 lol I don’t get this at all, simply uploading your consciousness helps you none. You still die along with who you are, yes you may have a perfect copy of yourself but that copy is not you. In the end all you are really doing is grasping at the wind.
@friendsza9711
@friendsza9711 2 жыл бұрын
*”Living, growing old, dying is the beauty of being human.”* -Rengoku Kyojuro
@darkwyvernheroine4785
@darkwyvernheroine4785 2 жыл бұрын
DEMON SLAYER
@d10rdjp3
@d10rdjp3 2 жыл бұрын
It's either you go crazy finding a way to end yourself or get crazy from the emotional wounds
@Karasublim
@Karasublim 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that’s why i never wanna live forever
@Gutsu_
@Gutsu_ 2 жыл бұрын
Immortality isn't something that I would want. I'd just like not to be so fragile. To keep my youth and strength, have good mental health, to live and be happy with less pain than I have now while I was alive. I don't want a life that doesn't end. I do want a life that feels extraordinary and wonderful. Don't we all.
@immanuelcurry6095
@immanuelcurry6095 2 жыл бұрын
So you want to die by something other than old age or natural cause? Because that’s the only way to avoid experiencing losing your youth and strength. For example dying in a car crash.
@TheWorldThatYouWishFor
@TheWorldThatYouWishFor 2 жыл бұрын
@@immanuelcurry6095 I think he would like to die just after living his whole lifespan being young till the end without old age basically 100 years of youthful life and then just pass away
@immanuelcurry6095
@immanuelcurry6095 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldThatYouWishFor it sounds nice but that breaks a lot of natural laws
@blotterdowney8075
@blotterdowney8075 2 жыл бұрын
@@immanuelcurry6095 his whole statement revolves around breaking natural laws lol. it’s a hypothetical, something he wishes
@cantu7614
@cantu7614 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWorldThatYouWishFor that’s such a stupid statement if he’s happy and healthy at age 99 what makes you think he won’t be like I don’t want to die I love living and experiencing the world
@yelwinaung1608
@yelwinaung1608 2 жыл бұрын
Not Immortality but like 200 years chilling with your loved ones and friends on a hill side and then die when ready. That'd be cool. And you can always hangout with friends.
@Teajonmustard
@Teajonmustard 2 жыл бұрын
It would all go by fast. 200 years would feel like nothing, the older you get the faster your perception of time becomes. Living doesn’t exist without death, and death doesn’t doesn’t exits without living When one is missing the one that remains becomes opaque.
@sussyimposter9971
@sussyimposter9971 2 жыл бұрын
When the imposter
@jameskristian3617
@jameskristian3617 2 жыл бұрын
@@sussyimposter9971 when the imposter
@asdfasdfasdf1218
@asdfasdfasdf1218 2 жыл бұрын
@@Teajonmustard To the contrary, death erases what is alive and can be comparable to losing a hard drive. Once it is lost, the data is simply gone, lost, done with. We get the faint traces that something was once alive, such as in fossil records of species once alive millions or billions of years ago, but these are only signs of something that once was, and know there's certainly plenty more that left no traces. These extinct species we have no memory of, they are nothing to us, as there is nothing to even say about them. And so it will be the same for all things that die, complete silence.
@simonecordeddu4783
@simonecordeddu4783 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't you be ready in like 50 years instead of 200 though
@eth4n580
@eth4n580 2 жыл бұрын
The moral of the story; is that there isn't one, everyone has different ambitions goals and outlooks on life, we've all come from different surroundings, experiences and places to create our own perception. In another sense life is what meaning you give it, it's not about whose wrong or right or the better option, it's what you create for it and yourself which gives it purpose, it's what you create in your own world which gives it meaning.
@eth4n580
@eth4n580 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously it's a bit of a fetch saying this is kind of the soul purpose of the video, this is just how it resignated with me and what I thought of it. This is just what I took from what he was saying since there wasn't generally a main moral to the story.
@KSKY2012
@KSKY2012 2 жыл бұрын
i just found this. i'm not interested in this stuff normally, but i really like this video. good job!
@mr.bnatural3700
@mr.bnatural3700 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it amazing that we watch these videos, feel blissfully enlightened for a day and then we all fall back into our lives and all we want is financial security and job satisfaction and a loving family? Efn' Weird.
@someguy1365
@someguy1365 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... it's not normal to be ALWAYS thinking about this stuff?
@okbill18yearsagoedited25
@okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 жыл бұрын
@@someguy1365 yea I end up thinking about what happens after death almost everyday and just scare myself, it's not healthy
@gonzalo6890
@gonzalo6890 2 жыл бұрын
It is a very blissful change of pace, for sure
@mr.bnatural3700
@mr.bnatural3700 2 жыл бұрын
@@gonzalo6890 True; it is a change of pace.
@Nihilist_Waltz
@Nihilist_Waltz 2 жыл бұрын
And just for a moment... I am uplifted, and my being and consciousness touches the comos. I taste the infinite. Only to be dragged back to reality... Is there anyway to suspend this moment in time?
@francisbikandy5788
@francisbikandy5788 2 жыл бұрын
“Let's suppose that you were able every night to dream any dream that you wanted to dream. And that you could, for example, have the power within one night to dream 75 years of time. Or any length of time you wanted to have. And you would, naturally as you began on this adventure of dreams, you would fulfill all your wishes. You would have every kind of pleasure you could conceive. And after several nights of 75 years of total pleasure each, you would say "Well, that was pretty great." But now let's have a surprise. Let's have a dream which isn't under control. Where something is gonna happen to me that I don't know what it's going to be. And you would dig that and come out of that and say "Wow, that was a close shave, wasn't it?" And then you would get more and more adventurous, and you would make further and further out gambles as to what you would dream. And finally, you would dream ... where you are now. You would dream the dream of living the life that you are actually living today.” ― Alan Watts
@ruschev2
@ruschev2 2 жыл бұрын
Stoner thoughts lol
@Andrescxli
@Andrescxli 2 жыл бұрын
this is somewhat similar to the plot if inception
@CYI3ERPUNK
@CYI3ERPUNK 2 жыл бұрын
this should be the top comment
@anthonyhernandez4266
@anthonyhernandez4266 2 жыл бұрын
Well this one sucks by comparison.
@imuuri
@imuuri 2 жыл бұрын
Escaping the eternal existence that truly is...
@julius43461
@julius43461 Жыл бұрын
As Ray Kurzweil said, I don't have to live forever, but ask me each day if I want to live to the next one, and I'll say yes each time. Personally, I don't even like mentioning the word "forever', but I am all for radical life extension. It just seems like a natural progression from our current standpoint. We already live in a situation where we produce more content then an individual can ever digest, and we know of things that we can never experience. Very frustrating and not fulfilling at all.
@knganthonyii2320
@knganthonyii2320 2 жыл бұрын
Deep conversation for a father and son talk
@Leitz_Music
@Leitz_Music 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the Naos son’s thinking. Unlike the father in the beginning, who clearly came to terms with death and it being apart of life, the Naos son recognized the trivial thought patterns of both choices. And it wasn’t his Naos father wanting death and him wanting to live forever to continue making the world great or whatever. It was 2 generations of this new society that both have come to terms with what life can be like if there were no end to it. It was 2 generations of individuals that know there is now a killswitch. And I’m not sure if anyone else thought of it, but the Naos’s solution kinda sorta hints towards suicide. Because they can choose to die, the chip or whatever the tech is (it looked like basically a SIM card you can insert almost like a euthanization) is a suicidal means. Where as a human dying can be from practically anything other than suicide. So in a way, the Naos son must also grapple with the idea that his father is imploring him to kill himself. Which I understand the parallel with the storyline, but it’s scary to think that humanity could very well get to that point and then want to effectively wipe themselves out because their immortality has taught them as a society that living forever is actually the worst. Could you imagine an entire species being so sick of life that they even implore their kids to off themselves without any thought to continuing humanity? *shutter*
@shufflingutube
@shufflingutube 2 жыл бұрын
woah so is that why we don't see aliens? cause they just wipe themselves out
@OnlyMuzan
@OnlyMuzan 2 жыл бұрын
@@shufflingutube your comment was so fucking random, I cracked up for once 😂
@msnd5828
@msnd5828 2 жыл бұрын
@theobserver what ur talking about is an actual theory called the great filter theory
@spicymeatballs2thespicening
@spicymeatballs2thespicening 2 жыл бұрын
Choosing whether you want to live or choose forever would actually be an amazing privilege, infinitely better than the horror of being doomed to oblivion with no control over how or when, and only being able to end yourself or wait for something to kill you.
@Leitz_Music
@Leitz_Music 2 жыл бұрын
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening In some twisted way, suicide (in my opinion) is the equivalence of the Nao’s son discussing implanting his self destruct switch though. They are uncertain of how many times they’ll “die” if that makes sense. Because the way I saw it, they can’t die but it doesn’t mean their infinite life won’t make them go crazy and they’ll try and to kill themselves over and over.
@elcapoeira1523
@elcapoeira1523 2 жыл бұрын
"There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. "There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. "There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. "There is no certainty in flesh but death.”
@justadummy8076
@justadummy8076 2 жыл бұрын
There is no soul in machines, only coldness There is no salvation in immortality, only insanity There is meaning in death, the birth of new life
@falcongamer5867
@falcongamer5867 2 жыл бұрын
From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me... i aspired for the certainty of steel, your kind claims your flesh as it fails you
@R3TR0_M4F1A
@R3TR0_M4F1A 2 жыл бұрын
WarHammer 40k
@theo3987
@theo3987 2 жыл бұрын
Typical nihilist
@drexplovecraft2227
@drexplovecraft2227 2 жыл бұрын
Hail the omnisah
@Teddybear6775
@Teddybear6775 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason i would want immortality is so i can watch all the stories people come up with as the years go by
@nickwright142
@nickwright142 2 жыл бұрын
The grass is always greener on the other side. But it's just perspective, you can't see the grass in your lawn because you're looking straight down at the blades. But all you see across the way is green.
@xxkildarxx
@xxkildarxx 2 жыл бұрын
In a world where immortality is an option Roy sounds like a construct that would be created and used to keep the lesser class content that they were denied immortality. The ruling class would play it off like they are sacrificing for those denied the option and use a Roy persona to convince them they are getting the better life.
@edsheeransdad9985
@edsheeransdad9985 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this.
@jolynemalone
@jolynemalone 2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the ruling class wouldn't have much of a reason to keep the lower class mortal. But then again why would they do anything they're currently doing. For power.
@Justin-jy6fu
@Justin-jy6fu 2 жыл бұрын
Just like the saying that goes im not here for long time, just a good time while being 300 pounds and barley able to leave and wasting hundreds of dollars a month on lottery tickets and cigarettes.
@semyonchernykh4694
@semyonchernykh4694 2 жыл бұрын
That's how conspiracy theories are born
@xxkildarxx
@xxkildarxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@semyonchernykh4694 Plenty of examples in history. Look at things like the concept of Noblesse oblige.
@dralliteration
@dralliteration 2 жыл бұрын
Being immortal and having the chance to decide if you wanna be mortal is far better than being mortal and having to decide if you wanna be immortal. With the first you can actively decide when your end is / when your end can be decided by the world. With the other you only have the options of being immortal forever or dieing before you activate it.
@foxgaming76yt24
@foxgaming76yt24 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@leonidasvonsparta
@leonidasvonsparta 2 жыл бұрын
thnx agree
@santiagocilloniz6997
@santiagocilloniz6997 2 жыл бұрын
no because if you chose to be immortal eventually you could die if you choose to do so. assuming you can ofc
@Rainbow_dash67.
@Rainbow_dash67. 3 ай бұрын
What complete/True Immortality without ever dying
@BencreasyYT
@BencreasyYT 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool video
@SteveBMayer
@SteveBMayer 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we had to live with the consequences of our actions? Immortality could be a path to great morality as long as individuals can self regulate, and learn to be aware of tyranny.
@TheDhammaHub
@TheDhammaHub 2 жыл бұрын
The Buddha was very vocal about eternal existence being eternal suffering ;D
@MRxPOTATO
@MRxPOTATO 2 жыл бұрын
Then why bother to exist then? Wouldnt we just save ourselfs from all the suffering if we wouldnt existed in the first place, or is Nirvana worth it?
@chillaf3522
@chillaf3522 2 жыл бұрын
But may be digital minds are in a different realm the buddha didn't consider. The possibilites for adjustment will probably be a lot in the future.
@TheDhammaHub
@TheDhammaHub 2 жыл бұрын
@@MRxPOTATO Well, according to the Buddha, we exist physically because we cannot stop doing so and are reborn again and again xD Attaining NIrvana is hard, but likely worth it
@TheDhammaHub
@TheDhammaHub 2 жыл бұрын
@@chillaf3522 Maybe, I cannot tell. Bu the Buddha might answer that "everything that is subject to change is also subject to decay and suffering" - that likely also includes digital minds xD
@jaye5872
@jaye5872 2 жыл бұрын
So if God exists, he's suffering eternally?
@korvinsilver
@korvinsilver 2 жыл бұрын
I like how there's no ultimate conclusion, only people finding options. I don't think you could figure out how an immortal being (especially after eons) would think more than how an amoeba could figure out how a human thinks. I personally think immortal people could find meanings (plural) in life we couldn't even begin to imagine as we are today.
@cantu7614
@cantu7614 2 жыл бұрын
No this assumption is just stupid. Give a tiger or a bear Immortality and after 100k-200k year they would still be the same animal a little smarter from all past experiences but they wouldn’t turn to gods or anything they just be the same animal
@ethereallight7168
@ethereallight7168 2 жыл бұрын
@@cantu7614 I don't know man. Maybe they'd evolve or something. We can't really say for sure until it happens as the main comment suggests in the first place. Humans are not all-knowing after all. Let's say an immortal animal is trapped within a box and there's nothing else there. There's nothing for that animal to influence it and shape it's being. Perhaps nothing would happen to it after eons. The gist is that living beings, including but not limited to humans, are influenced by their environment and all sorts of things. You won't be able to predict everything that happens and could happen in the scope of infinite possibilities. Maybe that lion would develop some sort of a bigger brain or something.
@TheBreezus
@TheBreezus 2 жыл бұрын
This made perfect sense when your on the other side of the curve. Trying to become immortal back to becoming mortal. But I would choose to be immortal 10/10. Death is currently inescapable in this timeframe. If humanity ever does achieve immortality Ill be envious of that generation, maybe it will be our generation.
@ArgStyleRlz
@ArgStyleRlz 2 жыл бұрын
If this generation achieves immortality, i'd rather die right now...
@bradleypoe-laulu433
@bradleypoe-laulu433 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArgStyleRlz good for you but I’ll choose immortality hope it does happen
@treasuretrails
@treasuretrails 2 жыл бұрын
Dying will be the most surreal moment of my entire life I can't wait man!!!
@somekidwithacomputer2939
@somekidwithacomputer2939 2 жыл бұрын
No one wants to live forever, but no one wants to die; the hypocrisy of it all...
@ZXNTV
@ZXNTV 2 жыл бұрын
I want to live forever, if you don't want to go ahead and die idc. 😂😂😂
@bennaustin6632
@bennaustin6632 2 жыл бұрын
As long as death is peaceful and without pain, many would choose death, myself included. Some choose it early anyway.
@reddykilowatt
@reddykilowatt 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna make it to heaven Light up the sky like a flame I'm gonna live forever Baby, remember my name
@ramanman9792
@ramanman9792 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZXNTV why? Do you fear death?
@somekidwithacomputer2939
@somekidwithacomputer2939 2 жыл бұрын
@@reddykilowatt yucky
@ellaa5986
@ellaa5986 2 жыл бұрын
“we have accepted for far too long that the ultimate imperative of life is that it must end”
@HexagonSun990
@HexagonSun990 2 жыл бұрын
Where's your pfp from? I love it.
@alonnveradaepix
@alonnveradaepix 2 жыл бұрын
Ill just launch to space, freeze, and eventually stop thinking till another civilization finds me
@MiyashiruX
@MiyashiruX 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on perspective. Not all of us are just going to get tired of life, or weak enough that deaths of loved ones will make us falter. I'd love to live forever if it means I can keep trying new things as the era changes, meet new people, watch how the world ultimately destroys itself.
@kennethj1956
@kennethj1956 2 жыл бұрын
It's not easy when it's hard." - Literally everyone
@cothinker680
@cothinker680 2 жыл бұрын
U wrote two comments and u get a lot of likes wow...
@MrKeem-mm4jy
@MrKeem-mm4jy 2 жыл бұрын
The floor here is made out of floor ( no hate that was a joke)
@bhardwajshub488
@bhardwajshub488 2 жыл бұрын
It 's not in when it's outside
@thebettafish3239
@thebettafish3239 2 жыл бұрын
Genius
@meghana1113
@meghana1113 2 жыл бұрын
@Clarissa Ramirez huh😳 Green tea is green.. Why? Sky is not sky.. Sky is blue. Why does green tea have to be green? ( jk)
@NonHumanPresence
@NonHumanPresence 2 жыл бұрын
"If we could be satisfied with anything, we should have been satisfied long ago." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca
@sussyimposter9971
@sussyimposter9971 2 жыл бұрын
Sussy baka -the imposter
@Gian_sas
@Gian_sas 2 жыл бұрын
@losmmn loserman even if you gain everything, you will be unsatisfied eventually. However I'd rather be inmortal.
@user-rc5qo6no6e
@user-rc5qo6no6e 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gian_sas and notch situation is the best example
@thefatbob3710
@thefatbob3710 2 жыл бұрын
@@sussyimposter9971 amogus
@yourmother8175
@yourmother8175 2 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful
@vorlonzevatron7142
@vorlonzevatron7142 11 ай бұрын
There is a BIG difference between living for ever and living one hundred years. Living for ever maybe awful but living short is even more awful.
@IamMortui
@IamMortui 2 жыл бұрын
When you put it that way, immortality is basically living hell, and being a slave to someone, or a slave to yourself for eternity. I'd guess that when you uploaded your mind, that mind would be nothing but a clone of yours, not your actually mind. So when you died, you would still die anyways. Humans would go extinct at that point, and what's left of us would become machines, with our Intellect.
@6byrontenorio
@6byrontenorio 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, lets say that you can actually transfer your mind to the computer. What is your value then? When you upload your mind you become one with technology and our minds are probably just a drop of water in a sea of knowledge. What makes us distinct from anyone when everyone knows everything?
@theflowerhead
@theflowerhead 2 жыл бұрын
I've wondered this.
@Veruziaa
@Veruziaa 2 жыл бұрын
Man sounds like the game NieR Replicant/Automata basically about this.
@YaBoiDREX
@YaBoiDREX 2 жыл бұрын
A digital fossil if you will.
@kapeecoffee
@kapeecoffee 2 жыл бұрын
But would you feel any different? Clone or original you would feel like an original.
@lancepria5495
@lancepria5495 2 жыл бұрын
The scariest part for me is out-living my love ones which forces me to find new relationships.. Overtime it might cause loyalty issues and generally a lot of grief
@Hmongboi228
@Hmongboi228 2 жыл бұрын
People would pop in and out of existance.. 💡 Thus, relationships would be meaningless.. 😳🤔
@ratanaksenasam2879
@ratanaksenasam2879 Жыл бұрын
But you have time to develop a Stoic mindset to live a better life. you will cut down grief 80% and learn to accept loss. Read Stoic of Marcus Aurelius. But I don't understand.. if you can be genetically immortal, your love ones should be too.
@kingwillie206
@kingwillie206 Жыл бұрын
@@Hmongboi228- No, because time would pass at the same rate for you.
@samuelcharles7642
@samuelcharles7642 Жыл бұрын
@@ratanaksenasam2879 You can’t rationalize your way out of human emotions. No matter how much stoic philosophy you read, you will still suffer greatly at the loss of a loved one
@valcrist7428
@valcrist7428 8 ай бұрын
@@ratanaksenasam2879 I think not accepting grief is "STOIC".. anyone who doesn't grief is a psychopath.
@LarfleezeOrangestein
@LarfleezeOrangestein 2 жыл бұрын
Ive always wanted to know what the existentially torturing experience of having lived millions of years feels like. While I know I would most certainly want to die by that point from this current perspective, we can never know how enjoyable it might actually be living forever. Sort of like growing out of the want to grow up so fast that we have as children.
@scribblecloud
@scribblecloud 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think itd be torture because your brain cant remember everything and after long enough you wont remember anything of your "previous" life anyways, so basically you kind of do die, its just a lot more gradual and less painful (although not remembering probably would suck, the same way it does for old people who cant remember some of their happiest memories from their childhood)
@nitroxylictv
@nitroxylictv 2 жыл бұрын
@@scribblecloud If I remember correctly, the human brain can only remember up to 400 years of information. After that point, it either ceases to function or you forget most of your early past. Seeing as the oldest living things on earth live up to 400 - 600 years, I'm guessing that would be about the oldest humans could live.
@adams7707
@adams7707 5 ай бұрын
Amazing video! I agree with the core idea. As long as there’s life there will always be death. Extended life as a digital conscioussness could be enjoyable for a few centuries or millenia but any longer than that would eventually throw everyone into a void of hopelessness and nihilism.
@coldspring22
@coldspring22 5 ай бұрын
Yet far better to have option? Wouldn't you say? People dying in 80's and 90's, many of them are but just a child having barely lived.
@rageraptor7127
@rageraptor7127 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you spend all eternity being depressed and hating yourself. It will be awful. At some point you’ll be angry or sad. But that’s simply life. It’s not about being happy. It’s about being content with being alive. Immortality won’t change that. Death also isn’t what gives life meaning. It’s an aspect of life. However, if people want to die. Or remain mortal I feel it should be allowed. But a life with no end is literally unable to be understood by us because no one has ever been immortal. So we can’t really understand the psychology of someone in that state.
@someguy1365
@someguy1365 2 жыл бұрын
I think immortality would be fine. As long as it isn't a flat switch you flip, making you invincible until the end of time. If you could decide when to go out, then I think it'd be fine. A lot of immortality scenarios seem to follow the idea of infinity. It's a decision you make, then you're screwed. What stops someone from "Deleting" themselves or choosing the day they die, though?
@someguy1365
@someguy1365 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also a little biased by the idea of having a body I could easily fix/being a digital consciousness incapable of feeling pain. I have a chronic illness, and I am always in pain.
@1999_reborn
@1999_reborn 2 жыл бұрын
If you can decide to die then you aren't immortal lol. Immortal means you can't die.
@mr.bnatural3700
@mr.bnatural3700 2 жыл бұрын
Now We Christians will be living forever with other like minded Christians in Heaven with Jesus. Too bad you unbelievers will be tossed into the fiery furnace to be tormented forever. (sarcasm)
@chillaf3522
@chillaf3522 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.bnatural3700 now now don't go out condoning people u haven't even met as if your the judge, you yourself may end up there.
@somecuriosities
@somecuriosities 2 жыл бұрын
This. Well said.
@hugocuevas1312
@hugocuevas1312 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a master piece
@cent7930
@cent7930 2 жыл бұрын
If u were immortal and spent your time playing video games you’d eventually be the absolute best in the world by far. That may be a fun goal to reach for immortality. After that, you can find another goal, like strength training. You could keep training for as long as you want and be the strongest in the world by far. For this reason of being able to train whatever ability you want for as long as you want may be a good way to spend your immortality. But still eventually you’ll be the best at everything forever which is the worst part of immortality, when nothing is fun anymore and there’s nothing to do for eternity this makes immortality just not worth it.
@WordUnheard
@WordUnheard 2 жыл бұрын
“The mind is its own place and, in itself can make a heaven of hell or a hell of heaven.” - John Milton. As someone with a terminal illness, and was trapped inside my own mind after having several seizures on the 22nd of June, I FINALLY understand that quote. I needed to live in a hell of my own creation, in order to see that I was living in a heaven this entire time. I was stuck in a loop for several days, which seemingly felt like an eternity. When I finally let go, forgave myself, and accepted my fate, the loops finally ended. I woke you with a breathing tube down my throat, so grateful to be alive. If anyone is reading this and you're miserable, know that you don't deserve the depression, the PTSD, the anxiety, the self-loathing. You can create and deserve your heaven. You may have to endure a bit more hell on your journey towards your own heaven, but don't doubt for a second that you have all of the power in the universe to do so.
@jacksondonzella9196
@jacksondonzella9196 2 жыл бұрын
You're awesome
@DerechteWutz
@DerechteWutz 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I sometimes find the way to heaven but on the way up I stumble and fall down to hell again. Its not easy as you say and it takes time. One day I will find the right way.
@MightyDantheman
@MightyDantheman 2 жыл бұрын
There is a clear difference between these two. One is a choice, the other is not. (To clarify: The father doesn't have the time to think as death comes ever closer by the day. The son, however, has all of eternity to decide if he wants to cease to exist.) Personally however, I believe that immortality is the ideal option. Especially in the virtual sense. I don't believe in this theory that one would get bored of life. But if one does that feel way, they could at least choose to live a simulated life similar to that of reincarnation. Perhaps even with no prior knowledge until their end in that simulated world, only to return to their original self. Perhaps that's what we're all already doing. Perhaps it doesn't matter. Why not just live life day by day?
@thomcole187
@thomcole187 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the same movie everyday, and tell me you wouldn't get bored of it. That's what life would become. Even with new experiences being created you'd eventually have so many past experiences they'd be comparable to such an extent in the sense of sensation that it all becomes redundant. Before you even got to that point you'd most likely already have become so desperate for new experiences, emotions, and sensations that you've gone mad. Eventually you'd lose all that made you human in those pursuits. Especially without memories fading, every time you bit an apple itd be just the same as before. Everytime you watched the sun rise, it'd be just the same as before, everytime you heard a song it'd be just the same as before. No renewal of the sensation, no more nostalgia, probably lose all motivation to experience those experiences again because they'd still be fresh in your mind as the moment they happened. Even watching civilization rise, evolve, or fall over the infinite number of years it'd all become the same redundant pattern. Perhaps you'd find solice in occasionally just erasing your memories, eventually you wouldn't even be you anymore though, it'd be the equivalent of you being dead and gone anyways. Or perhaps you could decide to just erase those emotions that make you feel that way, would you even really be a conscious thinking being at that point though, have any ability to truly rationalize anything? Doubt it. Personally I think it'd be cool to extend life for a time, but even as it stands there are many things I'm already tired of. I imagine by the end of eternity I'd have already faded away mentally.
@MightyDantheman
@MightyDantheman 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomcole187 Idk about you, but I'd much prefer that over ceasing to exist entirely. Also, it's not like our memories are that great. While I don't think we truly forget most things, I also don't think we remember things properly either. You can watch a movie many times and still enjoy it. But life is closer to a game, which can last far longer. Especially when you can keep adding new content. You assume that you'll eventually experience everything you possibly can. While that might technically be possible at some point, how much of that will you remember by then? If you redid everything, I doubt you'd remember most of it fluently or be bothered much by it. But again, I think the most important part is the absence of death.
@thegentleman1500
@thegentleman1500 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomcole187 nah mate me watch open season and never get bored.
@jsj3607
@jsj3607 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree death give life meaning not only the sense of urgency but the ability to look back on life in you final moments and say you did well and lived a fulfilling life. If you were immortal you would get everything you wanted which would make life feel hollow purposeless and boring i personally would prefer death but everyone can make their own decisions there is no singular meaning of life its what you make it
@thegentleman1500
@thegentleman1500 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsj3607 how are you to look back on your final moments when you don’t know when you will die?
@WeAreTheInsurgents
@WeAreTheInsurgents 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone that enjoyed this, I highly suggest you play The Talos Principle. It asks similar questions to this video, as well as the meaning of life, the meaning of freedom and what it is to be human
@cheyylim
@cheyylim Жыл бұрын
this is giving me existential satisfaction and dread at the same time
@justinmacasinag6258
@justinmacasinag6258 2 жыл бұрын
“Immortality is even worse than death itself” -Dr.Stone
@_BobaFett_
@_BobaFett_ 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll just live to be 504,373,749,000,000,000 years old then. That’s a hell of a lot less than immortality but certainly long enough for me! ❤️
@NightcorEDM
@NightcorEDM 2 жыл бұрын
Immortality is bad after a google years..
@elpideus
@elpideus 2 жыл бұрын
I see u're a man of culture as well
@showmae8459
@showmae8459 2 жыл бұрын
@@_BobaFett_ you'd get bored after a thousand years...
@vixzen4161
@vixzen4161 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the new season
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