Links to Federico's book, audio podcast, full transcript and more: zdoggmd.com/federico-faggin

Faggin is surely one of the great thinkers of our time. I believe there is a paradigm shift going on and more people are starting to question the consensus of reality and what it means to be human. Great job with the interview. Very enlightening. Thank you.

Don Hoffman and now you introduce Federico Faggin - the legend we never knew about. Wow!

Another riveting and awesome conversation. I’ve really become sold on the idea of consciousness as the fundamental foundation of everything. I feel like I’ve known this all my life, but I lacked the language and understanding to express it as Hoffman and Faggin are doing.

Absolutely fascinating interview, thank you for doing this. I found you through all of the Covid stuff and found you to be a clear and optimistic (when scientifically supported) voice to help cut through the noise, but it's content like this that will keep me watching your channel. Now to buy Mr. Faggin's book!

I thought this was just my “smart doctor breaks down corona channel” dude, you are a genius communicator and brilliant thinker. Blew my mind at 42:00. Great discussion both of you. Keep up this content!

As a highschooler, can I just say this is way better than any phycology or sociology class I've had.

This video is criminally underviewed. The video/audio quality are excellent. The guest is great. The host is great. The questions are great. If this was Joe Rogan or Lex Fridman this would have at least 100k views. The only thing I might suggest is that given how long it is, it might help to have timestamps like Lex Fridman does.

I love all your videos. This one more than any other has really spoken to me in such a way I *really* needed to hear today. Thank you so much for this opportunity to tap in. Please also extend my very sincere thank you & appreciation to Frederico Faggin as well.

Wow, had my 1.5 hours to sit down and listen properly and that was a feast of ideas, I didn't even know I could be hungry for. Cannot begin to describe that "pop" in my head that got me to listen and the joy that I saw you had at the end in comprehending the one and the whole, can't wait for your next discussions with FF.

Zubin is honestly one of the best interviewers I’ve seen. Very sharp, pointed questions. I find his psychopathic charm quite alluring

I’m a new sub, and I’m only 26 minutes into this but I can tell you for sure... that you have peaked. I mean this in a good way, the best way. This is fantastic. Thank you for this.

I had this crazy thought some 20 years ago: Do you wear your body for the same reason an astronaut wears a space suit? An astronaut wears a pressure suit to have an adventure where the adventure would otherwise be impossible. Before embarking on an adventure like walking on the moon, an astronaut must don a pressure suit. The pressure suits used by the Apollo astronauts were incredible examples of the engineering of the period. They maintained the astronaut’s body temperature and kept its pressure in \equilibrium by wrapping it in a little cocoon. The spacesuit was just like a temporary, portable earth! They were completely airtight and literally held the astronaut's body together so it wouldn't boil off into space. The point here is that the astronaut wore the pressure suit for the duration of the moonwalk to enable adventure on the moon. A pressure suit is required for the astronaut to survive in that environment. But we don’t think the astronaut IS the pressure suit, do we? In fact, the astronauts discarded the pressure suits before returning to earth because they were no longer necessary. The time available to the astronauts for exploring the moon was clearly limited-- they wore the suits while out exploring. Because their was limited, the astronauts made sure to pack as much adventure as they could before disrobing and returning to their "real, earthly selves". The same is true of the body you're wearing right now. It lets you experience things in a way unavailable if you were in another form. You can conduct experiments wearing your body that you weren’t able to conduct earlier before you were born-and that you won’t be able to conduct after you die. Use your faculties and explore as much as you can now. Have as much fun as you can because one day, you'll have to leave your body behind-- just as the astronauts had to leave their pressure suits behind. The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure of is that you are here-NOW-- and the universe (including the body you inhabit) will never ever be the same as right now. You could also say “you wear your body for the same reason a diver wears SCUBA gear” or “you wear your body for the same reason a mountain climber wears a parka” The adventurer needs the equipment temporarily. But you don’t consider the equipment to be the actual adventurer, do you?

Your shows keep getting better and better. This is so amazing! And crazy! It’s helping me remember. 😎

Thank you for bringing Federico to the mainstream. :) That's a great help for the collective. I've known Federico's out of body experience from a different source & I've also read his articles. I've always wished that his contents be known to a wider audience, and here it is! Thank youuu.

John Scott. I’ve retired from a high tech field and delt with these questions just before , and really made headway after retiring to today . I just turned 83 and found a source to practice connecting to my consciousness by another author Jim Dreaver . It’s real and life changing to “awaken” . I got a lot of answers from “ Silicon “.

I so appreciate how diverse your posts are. The coders I know all agree that computers /AI won’t acquire consciousness. Though I make it a point to be polite to Alexa. Humans have the capacity to become conscious of their consciousness. And this is a superpower that is to be understood.

Very useful and educative video. Faggin is so great !! You are growing ZDogg !! Let's see where you will go ....

This is the most BRILLIANT,, YET so simplly and comprehensively presented that in my opinion it is a fresh new signpost leading to the path of finding out our meaning in the mystery of life and death.....THANKYOU BOTH.

About as clear as I've ever heard it. @39:32 +++ Thanks so much to both of you. This gives such clarity and depth to mindfulness and the sense of flow.

I love those laughs along the interview, I can feel the catharsis you both are experiencing at those moments and I love it. This kind of stuff needs more attention.

Thank you for such a delightful and engaging conversation. I hope you're able to schedule Federico again asap. :) :) :) Please give my deep thanks to Federico as well. Zubin, I first found you last year when you interviewed Donald Hoffman (who I follow regularly). Thank you for being such an engaging interviewer with Don. :) And I also follow Bernardo Kastrup -- again, thank you for having such a meaningful conversation with Bernardo. Your interviews are so on-point that I'm able to share them with friends who might get lost in other interviews of Don and Bernardo's. And thank you for mentioning that you would be interviewing Federico in your Bernardo episode - I wasn't aware of Federico's work, but your effervescence alerted me to definitely tune in and I'm so glad I did today. I will listen to this episode over and over again. I'm now looking forward to following you regularly too! Thank you, ZDoggMD :) Thank you... Much love and big hug.

Coming here after listening to an Audible version of his book “Silicon”. Loved it. Was looking for some other videos and interviews with him and found this! Thank you for doing it! Fascinating guy whose name should be recognized by everyone

1:19 loved your reaction to the aha moment. Articulated perfectly what I was experiencing. Mind blown. Sooooooo good. Keep it up. 💯

Love this. Keep it up with the profound guests and topics. You have a gift of making these topics very graspable and enjoyable and I think this is important for the paradigm shift the world needs. Most people think the world is already figured out and this is a terrible dogma which is causing terrible suffering. I get life is tough and fast paced, the system we are born into doesn't allow for us to stop and take a breathe and think about metaphysical topics, we are addicted to our phones, addicted to materials. Maybe these topics should be taught in schools from a young age to raise more conscious children and therefore more conscious adults?

That's a double listen for me. So many profound insights... what a gift.

People who describe their DMT trips say that they enter a different world that feels more real than this world.

Was just working on a mundane spreadsheet at home under UK lockdown when you and your esteemed guest discussed quantum computation....something popped, I just had to stop working ...I love your output, it's sometimes hard to get to the end as background listening, I've got to make good 1:30 hours to listen properly.

Excellent interview. It’s intriguing to hear a physicist’s and a physician’s thoughts on the quantum aspect of our neurohormonal biochemical psychology. It’s complicated indeed. Good luck replicating the HPA axis (and its exact influence on neural computation) in the classical sense.

Amazing interview. He says what I've been thinking for several years now. Such a shame this has so few views!

I’m thinking that Federico would really enjoy studying Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics as I think it would harmonize really well with some of the lines of thought that he is onto. I do hear Aquinas saying, “yes, and what you call ‘the everything’, that is what we mean when we say God.” Part of this is because he talks about whole not being reducible to the parts in regard to conscious entities, but it’s also true with unconscious entities such as atoms and molecules. The molecule of H2O is greater than the sum of its parts.

This video changed my life forever. Thank you.

This is so profound . Thanks guys

being open minded is the key to finding out what is really going on. the classic scientific method is basically closed minded until proven wrong with enough "evidence". I think this is a great interview and helps open the mind even more. thanks for this please do more ok tbis.

You are one of the best interviewers in the game ..bravo. Great guest too

Thank You for producing and sharing this very valuable interview. Just recently I've benn aware of who's Mr. Faggin and this expands a lot more my admiration and interest in his ideas. Thanks a lot man.

Am I thankful to Rupert Spira now! I followed the breadcrumbs to here and finally have gotten to hear about That What Is with modern language. It just decoded a lot for my mind. As Rupert says, it takes time for the new knowledge to settle in as the old knowledge lets loose the grip of the habit and gets pushed back. It takes time to make home in the Knowing.

I think It's the best interviewing about consciousness, They both have simple and good explanations.

Superbly conscious interview on consciousness! 33:07 It is clear that we cannot know the state that we are in, in this real world, we can only probe and find signals, but we cannot find experience in the brains, only biochemical and electrical signals, and this clearly shows that consciousness cannot be classical, because a classical information can be copied. If experience would just be classical information, you should be able to copy it, but you cannot! 35:03 Most fundamental is consciousness, from which emerges quantum emerges, from which emerges quantum physics (quantum information), from which emerges classical physics. 46:22 On comprehension... which humans have, and computers don't, and never will.

A classic interview. Thank you

Great Interview which compliments the others.

Thanks for this interview!

Thank you!!! This is great!

What a nice bookend Donald Hoffman was my intro to you and your program a little over a year ago Now this All the Covid talk in between was a good ride as well Thank you Looking forward to more

Oh, got the book on Audables just now. Gonna give it a listen.

again thanks fellow beings for sharing awareness and insights out loud

I truly inspiring interview, these ideas and ways of exploring our reality - the human condition - should be taught to every young person - well to everyone actually. Thank you!

Listening to this again so good!

Love these guys more and more towards the world of the energy matrices

I wonder if Frederico has met himself, too. Book-selling interview, Z-dogg! Well done.

He has a great way of explaining ultra-high-level mathematics. It reminds me of taking Engineering math and Differential Equations back at the Naval Academy 40 years ago. Imagine deriving the equations to describe operations of a nuclear power plant then creating a computer program to analyze normal operations and accidents. It was a bundle of fun.

Great content. Could help to have chapters on the timeline or even shorter extracts as separate videos.

"Classical reality" is just symbolic @48:20! he says....

ZDogg could you make the pre-interview talk with Federico available as you suggested in this interview that you might/would? Thanks either way.....good stuff....as usual.

Darn.... I gave a thought experiment and 10 minutes later you covered it.... you guys are good!

The idea of a machine is one of durability in light of our mortality. The trade-off in becoming "more machine". is ameliorated by the commodification of experience as channeled by fashion into the narrows of control. Like all good traps, consumption finds us.

Fascinating stuff, Z. Would be great to see Faggin and Kastrup together to compare ideas! One part of Faggin's model that I find less persuasive, however, is his assertion that consciousness is private. That strikes me as an assumption which many mystics have contradicted in their writings.

Prepare all you want then go into the talk empty. People often think that stillness of mind is an emptiness with nothing in it. It is the fullest thing of all. And we can experience this as creativity and compassion busting out in the present. In this sense emptiness is the fullest thing of all. It is like a vortex that helps the unmanifest manifest. It is not a nothingness nor a somethingness. Yet only in that stillness can we ever really listen and hear what is seeking to manifest through us in any one situation or moment.

Your guest's argument seems to be "because we don't understand what consciousness is, we can't recreate it in a machine." This rather ignores emergent properties of systems that are not well understood before those systems are created.

This is a great talk. This is what Buddha said. When we identify with the classical or relative self (ie... a self that doesn't inherently exist) we suffer. When we learn to identify with eternal awareness (let go of everything!) we find blissfulness in everything.

This deserves way more views

The material does not change the consciousness; the language does.

Two concepts surfaced for me as I listened to this amazing conversation. I am a Theist - and am not pushing for this position, but something deeper. It feels like the Apostle Paul may have had an analogous experience to Dr. Faggin's (hi sir! I was with Intel for a decade in the 286-486 era as a manufacturing engineer) with his "Road to Damascus" experience: “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin (missing the truth) that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin (missing the mark, or missing the point of why we are here) still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭6‬:‭1‬-‭6‬ ‭ And CS Lewis said in his essay, The Weight of Glory, And in there, in beyond Nature, we shall eat of the tree of life. ..... The load, or weight, or burden of my neighbour’s glory should be laid on my back, a load so heavy that only humility can carry it, and the backs of the proud will be broken. It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, to remember that the dullest and most uninteresting person you can talk to may one day be a creature which, if you say it now, you would be strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and a corruption such as you now meet, if at all, only in a nightmare. All day long we are, in some degree, helping each other to one or other of these destinations. It is in the light of these overwhelming possibilities, it is with the awe and the circumspection proper to them, that we should conduct all our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, all politics. There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilisations-these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit-immortal horrors or everlasting splendours. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously-no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption. And our charity must be a real and costly love, with deep feeling for the sins (missing the truth) in spite of which we love the sinner-no mere tolerance, or indulgence which parodies love as flippancy parodies merriment. Next to the Blessed Sacrament itself, your neighbour is the holiest object presented to your senses. If he is your Christian neighbour, he is holy in almost the same way, for in him also Christ vere latitat-the glorifier and the glorified, Glory Himself, is truly hidden.

You are blowing it out of the water. Listened twice!

Some people do have a vested interest in “being a machine”. Because then, nothing matters. And when nothing matters(it still matters) you have no responsibility.

I greatly enjoyed this interview. How marvellous is that the man who invented microprocessor rejects the materialistic worldview! Faggin, Kastrup, and Hoffman is my trinity now ;)

It's amazing how close their beliefs mirror Christian doctrine without them realizing that's where this all leads.

I recommend the book “The Unconscious Quantum” by Victor J. Stenger (1995) to clear all this stuff.

The beauty of one.

This was a stimulating conversation. On the far side of middle age now, I've intuited that the experience of meaning is fundamental in a way that our reality generally does not acknowledge (much less harness). Prevailing ontology and our Western social values both trivialize the experience of meaning in favor of materialistic busywork. The concept of "qualia" was new to me. I'll certainly follow up on this and will buy the Silicon book. Thanks for sharing this. (Question: Is quantum consciousness working toward an end state, or is it endless permutations? Maybe another way of asking it: If observation collapses the wave function, and quantum consciousness is in the process of knowing itself, can we theorize a point at which endless observation exhausts endless possible states?)

This doesn't stop at humans. Look at the creativity in nature, some nests that birds create are so creative and beautiful and something I could not do. Look at the beauty and intelligence of a spider web, incredible and symmetrical. Look at the beauty of diamonds. Look at a tree, a mushroom a blade of grass. People take this for granted but this consciousness that is fundamental to this reality is everywhere. Look at flowers, the stars, how did the trillions of atoms know how to work together to start nuclear fusion to create an incredible star? Gravity, yes but where does gravity come from? A dead universe? No, if we open our eyes we will see that this universe is infinitely creative and intelligent from the stars all the way down to the spider webs and its all connected.

Gracias 😊😁 Ya se me hacía pero esto "calma un poco más las aguas del rio"

Thoughts are things, feedback loop, the energy behind the thought is powerful indeed, being rational is important.

This is by far the best scientific explanation of the human soul.

finally, someone I can read on Kindle Unlimited!

Lovely and very good show on the subject matter of time and space is the environment of gravity maybe but not exactly the same place

13:28 gold!

Thanks Prof. Federico Faggin, CONSCIOUSNESS exists independently of the body. Experimental tests: objective, repeatable. In the images Psychokinesis Art = Writing of the mind built in the clouds or, in the varnish, we observe: before and after the physical effect = change in the speed of the cloud, and the mental/conscious part = the ability, the knowledge, in the construction of the image. (All the mental faculties act: memory, reasoning ability, it is thought of as a machine, the scholars each in their discipline have called it mind, soul, spirit). UE = Exit out of body. Consciousness creates matter = second body + mental actions. Evidence: I pass, see through two objects, cloud pattern or varnish to form images, other EVIDENCE: I move with my second body at any distance.

Y’all should do the next one on entanglements!

How do you have time to make these videos?

This guy is brilliant thank you I learned a lot from Federico.

Fascinating stuff, trying to take it in. What kind of conversation would Faggin have with Robert Sapolsky?? ‘Free will is an illusion.’ Love to know.

You should interview Dr Peter Tse, you’ll find him very interesting

One thing that does stand out clearly, to me, is that consciousness does seem t reduce entropy, which suggests that it is a survival mode built into evolutionary growth.

Z - You can be either right or wrong. Neither position is predicated on you being or not being crazy.

Somehow I missed this interview. Man this was good. Something just rings true with people like Faggin and Kasteup. Addicted to hearing consciousness talks from the heterodoxy... Hopefully these ideas won't be heterodox much longer.

We need the science, and, art. The art part has been woefully suppressed these last few years with corporate management. Use art with, the science.

I am not body, mind,thoughts,concept, idea but I am that- consciousness- Veda

The term AI is thrown around, and it's nothing more then a changing algorithm within a program based on inputs. When I smell or hear something and I go back 40 years to a time and place it occurred, that's the human analog brain.

Just wow!

Some people (generally without deep scientific training) believe that consciousness and quantum physics are related. A century ago similar people thought that radioactive substances were the essence of life. And a few centuries before that, they believed that mercury was an important component in making the Philosopher's Stone, granting immortality.

I made many remote controllers for electronics in a vacuum tube's for ancient types of radio's it just like audio switches and then it turns on off in vibrational controlling mode i could use a magnetic tape reals to make a cnc styling outputting to motoring of dimer positions with sonically actives

I'd love to see a debate between Federico Faggin and Noah Yuval Harari

I'm sure i'll find this fascinating, but my first take is "Never say never".

This has me thinking about synchronized flight in birds. Does the "crowd" then become a consciousness entity in of itself?

In Baton Rouge. Coincidently, I have just been writing about how to begin the development of "conscious" robots!

Seems like a great podcast for my daily walk. Just downloaded the audio to listen while walking.

Most interesting people have a lot of information but the processing of software countersink assembler has a potential for artificial intelligence system that allows the user to be able to find a soulful assembler in a way refactoring the waves of vibrational channels in a way refactoring a brain wave simulator

So i used a camera that was like a radars spectrum of bounce backs from source and find that voids of sound in sounds itself is like double slips in a way refactoring waves of vibrational songs on a drum the actions of moveing particals directionally reentry from that state shapers in vibrational currents transition the motion to traveling waves so couldn't it have a mathematical conciuosness in some other way ??hmm the harmonics and collisions are entanglement in their own making 🤔 no maybe one but not every single one .

Time traveler here from 2023 the era of ChatGPT :) This aged well lol ...BTW, Chat will spit out SAT solver equations from simple English prompts to solve logic puzzles and design digital logic - try it! Northern Italians love SAT solvers for some reason, I took a class with one. This stuff was hard! but now it's easy. Also, some claim that consciousness is basically just a reflection loop. So all you really need to do is iterate on something over time. Then again, producing an output letter-by-letter provides the model an opportunity to iterate; by this note, LLMs are already partly conscious in this finite capacity.