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As a professional silver player i never heard these terms before

Many people watching the video did not understand that here Mcbaze had bad micro and got out-micro by a master player, but still crushed him with macro. micro is about spacing, dodging spells, and winning trades. macro is about chosing when to trade, when to recall, when to ward and where to position in lane. Here Mcbaze got in range of a viktor Q for no reason, canceled and auto, leveled his W while it was no use in his lvl 2 trade and got chunked hard. Yet he won of knowing when to recall while viktor trolled his recall and his tp, he played around map and viktor tp being down, trading aggressively for a purpose. And all these macro decisions led to him getting free kills without any need of skill at fighting. He won off ahead decision making against opponents with better fighting skills.

Viktor Q range is 800 at 0:52 not 600 for those wondering, which is why he says they have similar ranges.

Really strong guide today, thanks as usual guys :)) I always love the re-hashing on previously covered topics from different perspectives and scenarios, as well as alternative points of view that you offer. It really helps to create a strong pattern that can start to form to fit all games.

Had "bad mechanics" a few times due to a mistake but then had perfect mechanics combined with a mistake by viktor. Normal players can't really replicate this easily and seemed like more of a guide on micro lol. Not to mention most people would've lost flash and got nothing out of that wukong gank. Not a bad video but title seems a bit misleading

doesnt matter. meanwhile bot lane has fed 8 death and wukong has 2 item

“Laning is almost as a turn based game” this was so helpful

As a jungler this happens literally every game where a player messed up his lane like the viktor here and as you say being ungankable. They then spam ping the jungler because they think you are overextended when in reality it is impossible to kill you. Laners just don't understand this even in Dia and then its jungle diff ofc.

Finally got the money to sign up and actually try this :D can't wait to get better!

“Shit mechanics and good macro” Proceeds to immediately talk about how important spacing mechanic is 😂 comon guys

Video was suppose to be about macro.. And spacing (mechanics thing) is the main takeaway. Your guides are always exceptional!

5:03 really really loved that moment

Any time someone talks about what is good to do with the wave, I feel like I could be being straight up lied to and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It feels so unintuitive. I can understand their justification on a surface level, especially when paired with video results, but I never "get it" on a fundamental level that lets me apply it in game.

"Bad mechanics" tethers Viktor pretty darn well for several waves

Literally one game after I started playing orianna like you were showing I started solo killing people in my lanes

Macro is the secret to a great sex life.

I would have thrown a q at the cannon and low hp casters and then woulda been oom when I ran back to nunu, so who knows how it woulda played out. I learned alot from watching, thanks.

Can we talk about how enthusiastic he sounded doing the outro lol 10:30

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You have really nice spacing but I feel like a lot of that is from mechanical muscle memory more than macro.

Isn't spacing and trading micro though?

what I love about macro rather than micro is that when you know macro, you know what micro concepts are important and how important are them. maybe you think dodging skills is important (and it is), but sometimes they are irrelevant (if you are going to reset) and sometimes they are crucial (1v1 situation, and you can even pay a price like using flash if they are that important).

Mcbaze always sounds dead af inside on these 😂😂😂💀

Its actually crazy how unbelievably easy mage laning phases are

Well spacing doesn't really work when I play Kassadin vs Tristana 😒

I like videos on higher elo dia+ more then the ones on gold and plat. to quote Hector we all trash 🗑 lol

Your videos are so beautiful. I really admire its effects. It's inspiration and goal of what good content is sorry my english translator

this video should be titled "Why GAME KNOWLEDGE is the SECRET to LANING".. everything here is based on game knowledge.. knowing auto and ability ranges.. knowing summoner spell match ups.. knowing spell cooldowns.. ect.. You didn't macro in the game at all. Laning is not maco.

can you try to play on EUW even though ur ping will be high? ^^

Macro seems harder to climb with this season I can't tell you how many games I've jungled, had dragon priority, but then the enemy team gets bounties that a feeding laner or two ends up giving to their team multiple times over

Is Viktor taking first strike into Ori considered trolling in high ELO?

If you're playing at top lane, it's not at all to be honest. Just perma push it until you have 35 deaths and explode their nexus. Main Sion or something, lose lane, get CS, fuck turrets. That's my take on how to win. Also, if you think like you'll be dying at all times and not getting any turrets since you'll be poor = less items = weaker = easy target, that's understandable but you forget about the 1 main feature in the game: CS and playing golds. One time I Got ganked 5 times and roamed 2 times in just a few minutes, still managed to out level and out gold my enemy by basically demolishing the turret while my enemy killing me. Yes, it's not that easy to do with stuff that is not Sion, but you wanted META picks? Here you go! Go play sion or something with a good jungle main duo and take the enemy nexus while your duo is taking the dragon. If you're still not convinced and say this is useles af, here is the perfect guide: Step 1: Pick Sion, ban Darius or Mordekaiser, get your runes done with Flash/TP or Exhaust/TP(since you'll not need flash that much). Step 2: Level up W and get the 500 gold potion thing. If the enemy jungler starts bot jungle, go get their buff(especially if it's red buff) and die asap after taking it. Teleport to the lane. Step 3: If you didn't do that, use your W to grab 3 melee minions and damage enemy if possible. Then walk up to get the caster minions. Based on your rank and your opponent's mental state + character, they will be hitting you. If they're hitting you, first drink your potion, and then hit them with your auto. Grab the minions and level up Q. You're gonna basically repeat this pattern a LOT. If both of you are around 30% HP, you have your E and teleport, walk up to them after drinking your potion and use W. E(And exhaust if you got it)+Q them and it should be a CC. Walk up to them and damage them with W explosion and autos, and use your passive to kill them. If failed, TP back to lane and grab the entire wave that built up. Crash your own wave and get a plating with demolish. Repeat this until first item. If you did kill them, just crash the wave and get most platings as you can. When the enemy comes, just run away and try to base. Step 4: In mid game, you just have to CS and get towers. Especially when there's a dragon fight or something, demolish every single tower of theirs' with hullbreaker. It's pretty much it. Step 4: In late game, you're around 6k HP probably and are around full build. You can 1v1 ADCs, assasins, mages, supports, some bruisers, and stuff like that. You'll be able to take 1v2 or 1v3s aswell most of the time. If you still can't do it, try the BauSpecial technique. And try ulting the normal turrets aswell. Don't care about dying if you can get a turret. Rune: From Resolve: Grasp Of The Undying, Demolish, Bone Plating, Overgrowth. From Inspiration: Minion Dematerializer, Approach Velocity. Adaptive, Armor/MR, Armor/MR/HP(HP for more W shield and stuff so more fun) How to have fun and the best feeling while playing like this: Take flash, 500 Gold potion, use W, flash into the enemy wave killing first 3 melee minions and damaing last 3 caster minions while hitting the enemy and seeing the potion burn.

Viktor: I'll cheater recall with TP. Orianna: Viktor messed up. Skillcapped: Cheater recall is good. This contradiction: ???

What elo was this?

Every time a midlaner TPs to lane like that i cringe inside.

In Plat elo all this might be true but in silver all that really matters are mechanics and it's easy to see why. A plat+ player in Silver will just destroy everyone by outplaying them and easily snowball. At the same time the farming skills of regular silver players is so weak that it geniuenly doesn't matter if you get a wave more or less. It all gets coinfliped the next second anyways when the team does some random macro calls that are unpredictable to see because they make no sense and death timers dictate much more how much cs and xp one gets. So it's really just all about being able to mechanically outplay ur opponents while as a player with silver mechanics good macro can't win you much as you can't get anything from it

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Damn, so I guess macro will help my 0/40 botlane

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Watching this...twice...and still have no idea how to apply it in my game.

I dont belive i am able to play on this level.

nagh 5x5 mid we KINGS

Please make video where you say to mid laner that he should cover bush not mid turret.. What I have noticed most mid laners are focusing only on mid and they most of the time not helping with covering jungle..

I watch a lot of these videos but I often feel like the info is too advanced for me. There is so much stuff to learn in lol I feel like I'm going to be in bronze 2 forever.

As clickbait as it sounds, only decent mechanics are needed until GM and the rest is 80% just macro and game knowledge stuff. Obviously great mechanics will help you climb faster, but those are learned from a lot of experience but macro can be learned fairly quickly through careful study. Many games are won and lost by good or bad applications of game knowledge.

I am like 230

why is a macro guide mostly about micro lol

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Baiken mains unite!

"trash mechanics" yeah, right. So just play like a challenger player on a bad day AND outsmart your opponent to escape low elo? Why does not everybody just do this ...

Or I'm just gonna play irelia and just mechanically outlay (obv Marco too but like)

No offence but spacing and tethering it's part of micro

Yeah all i need is macro even though I cant split push in any lane bcz enemies respond in groups killing me all the time and their all super fed thats why I’d die instantly

uh title is MACRO not MICRO is that intentional?

Half of my games are with bots.... no amount of skill will help you there..

heal on orianna XD

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Title - macro, video - almost only about micro.

Disagree. You need to be a hostage negotiator in order to get teammates to follow your calls in soloq

Hardstuck Grandmaster NA = high elo ? hmm

I’m tired of these random ads in Spanish. This is America not South America

seems like u need skill for that

I need a "How to play with severe ADHD" guide :)

Wouldn't it be a better idea to let Viktor run away and keep flash? 2 kills is already a big lead and keeping flash allows you to lane aggressively while being safer against ganks.

The self promo at the end XD clearly read from a script, more enthusiasm my dude, you need more enthusiasm

He forgot to mention that his team is 3-0 at 4:50 on scaling champs and tey actually have a real team comp and not a teemo top, kindred jungle akshan mid with a useless supp.

This guide is good for us mid/high elo guys, but i think low elo wouldn't even understand half of the terms in this video.

Yeah but I’m jungle

I-No > Baiken

macro isnt needed until diamond. just play snowball champs and aram to victory

Viktor: ff15 jg diff

This guy's voice puts me to sleep. feels like he's just reading a script and not even excited about what he's saying

this video is irrelevant. I lane vs katarina. Go 4/0/0 in lane. She goes to bot does double and just r and penta for the rest of the game.