Why Making Sustainable Palm Oil Might Be Impossible

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Palm oil is a major ingredient in more than half of packaged products Americans consume. Mass production of the crop is linked to widespread deforestation pollution, and human rights violations. Even as major companies are under pressure to change their policies to use palm oil "responsibly," making the crop sustainable is extremely difficult and expensive. We followed two palm plantations in Guatemala that are racing to prove that they can produce it in a sustainable way.
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Why Making Sustainable Palm Oil Might Be Impossible

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@yusof843 3 жыл бұрын

Palm oil industry is actually a victim from its competitors, middlemen and businessmen. A palm tree could provide up to 25 years of harvest within the same area. No extra land or deforestation done as claimed. In fact the plantation has created healthy neighbourhood and community. It also became a habitat for a lot of animals. The sad thing is that, the farmers and growers earn so little from it, that's why they can't manage it well. The middlemen and bussinesmen enjoys the most profit from the cheap cost and and high profit margin. Bad rumours and false information leads to the price down to almost the lowest point. Palm oil planters barely sustained the operation if it not due to side income from planting other plants in the plantations. They keep planting for the sake of just to survive and not to become rich like the middlemen and businessmen. It's such a cruel fate and injustice to one side..😞

@chupacabra9357 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have a source for palm oil plantations hosting animal communities?

@hidupdidesa9068 Жыл бұрын

@@chupacabra9357 please come here in Sumatra, Indonesia. You will see thousands cow live in Palm oil plantations. So the area is not only for palm oil plantations, but for breeding cows.

@emmalineee 3 жыл бұрын

So corn oil, canola oil, sunflower oil, olive oil, soy oil better for environment since you need larger plantation to produce oil

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

Much better for "environmental" organizations since Europe is the one who get the benefits, and those organizations were from Europe

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

@sang kliwon palm oil is never Euorupe's business since it can only grow in tropical area

@philippecr 3 жыл бұрын

It's all propaganda to hurt palm oil sales.

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

@sang kliwon please don't live in the past. Atm this is developing nation's business. See the stocks holder and you'll know that those past colonizers already left and now the business is not theirs

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

@sang kliwon well, I don't know about your country, but surely Malaysia and Indonesian's palm oil company mostly is not owned by Europeans, and these 2 countries are the biggest palm oil producer.

@elisiayyoki2707 3 жыл бұрын

Palm oil produce more oil than other..

@najiskeji1700 3 жыл бұрын

People who are fixated on palm oil have misplaced priorities and ulterior motives. Without palm oil an area as big as Australia would have been deforested by inefficient alternative crops like soybean and rapeseed. Biggest polluting & deforesting commodities are in following order: livestock/meat, dairy, soybean, rapeseed, sunflower then palm oil.

@laaaah4577 2 жыл бұрын

Go vegan then

@bono46 9 ай бұрын

And let's not forget that 78% of soybean goes to feed livestock :)

@FateSeries 3 жыл бұрын

The best thing about NGO is mostly of them are being funded by European Soybean tycoon. That's why you don't hear so much complaints about them. The soybean oil producer also don't have strict sustainability criteria compare to oil palm even they are the major land use and clearing plus major waste producer

@Voodoo3397 2 жыл бұрын

Yeap. Rapeseed, soybean, and sunflower. All less efficient and takes up more space, however none are demonized.

@Yefro72 Жыл бұрын

Also Europe cant dominate or monopolise palmoil so it has to be demonised and have their soys and other oils promoted

@ubaidahlifestylezz3659 Жыл бұрын

True

@yooyeshin9720 6 ай бұрын

Woah I just knew that, thank you!

@chiangchengkooi9791 3 жыл бұрын

Notting is sustainable as long as human keep on producing more human. Do not blame palm oil.

@ansaaba 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm :/ Economy strategy war? Nice

@salmonoven 3 жыл бұрын

To make them less buy palm oil maybe

@tasyarosenna88 3 жыл бұрын

those white people can use their olive oil as much as them like. but we asia often use them for deep fried, olive oil is to expensive and change food taste :/

@wakyIIsr 3 жыл бұрын

Sustainable #PalmOil is there since 1970s, and got certified since 2004 by #RSPO. Of course competitors in the West will say otherwise. Homework for you, why palm oil producers like Malaysia still has almost 70% forest cover (ref: WorldBank) but EU countries like Netherlands only has negligible 11%, and it hosted Greenpeace that can't fix own forest?

@azankhan88 3 жыл бұрын

Most idiots don't understand that palm oil is the most efficient veg oil source.

@jethro690 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. because the Netherlands has native species like Orangutans, tigers and elephants to protect from extinction.

@wakyIIsr 3 жыл бұрын

@@jethro690 they're among the first to destroy own primordial forest and wildlife, none left today. We also know they prefer to spew excuses than reforesting or rewilding. Easy ain't it?

@jethro690 3 жыл бұрын

@@wakyIIsr So your argument is comparable to "well they did it before, why can't we do it now?" What's next? reinstating the slave trade?

@wakyIIsr 3 жыл бұрын

@@jethro690 nope, rather I'm exposing fake forest preacher -- mostly westerners with ”white saviour complex”. Hypocrites need to buy mirrors.

@justsomeonewithanezukopfp8224 3 жыл бұрын

It's hard But at least they never gave up

@Trund27 3 жыл бұрын

JustSomeoneWithANezuko PFP Absolutely agree.

@tinodafuq4219 3 жыл бұрын

It's about Guatemala palm oil production, why u show the deforestation from Indonesia?? It's so bias, u should look closer at Indonesia palm oil company. If it's about poluted water, u should see people in borneo living at peat swamp, the water is red and acid but they still alive.

@irturhamun 3 жыл бұрын

In my country, Indonesia we can slowly change fossil fuel consumtion to palm oil fuel. In this year we have achieved D100 ( Diesel fuel 100% from Palm Oil) and will be produce in couple month. We have research in palm oil to became G100 (Gasoline fuel from 100% Palm Oil) and J100 (Jet Fuel from 100% palm oil). In couple of years we can stop consume fossil fuel and going to fully implemented Palm Oil Fuel. If you think Palm Oil not eco-friendly you are wrong because we can use palm oil to stop consume fossil fuel.

@Jusssssssssssssssss 3 жыл бұрын

And here in borneo we suffering more palm oil destroying us Its pain me to see sea of palm trees from top of mountain as far as i can see

@andrewsborneo 3 жыл бұрын

Well, transportation means will be electric in the near future. No need for biodiesel or whatever from palm oil.

@irturhamun 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsborneo Where does your electricity come from? Very few power plants come from renewable energy and many still use fossil fuels to generate electricity. Palm oil can be a solution for electricity generation without having to change the existing machines. The investment is only needed to research palm oil so that it can be used like petroleum. Without having to invest in research and machinery to generate electricity like other renewable energies.

@irturhamun 3 жыл бұрын

@@Jusssssssssssssssss Kalimantan has been planned for oil palm plantations and has thought about the sustainability of its ecosystem. Indonesia has committed to continue to conserve Kalimantan forest ecosystems such as creating protected forests and nature reserves so that there is no extinction of endemic species on the island of Kalimantan. Keep in mind that oil palm cultivation is more sustainable than drilling for oil and mining. Please don't be fooled by the EU about the exaggerated facts as if oil palm is destroying the environment.

@irturhamun 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsborneo FYI : Electricity Battery and other semi-conductor can be toxic and polute the earth.

@larrythelobster2329 3 жыл бұрын

Sooner or later the world will become overpopulated so it doesn't matter, I think the forest that is cut down for planting oil palm trees is better than the forest that is cut down for timber use, because oil palm can make other country's economy increase and the forests that are taken for wood are hundreds of years old, whereas for oil palm plantations, most of them use empty land rather than deforestation.

@kartawijaya3927 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry buddy i got to tell you this If 19th century own by Europe, 20th century own by America, then 21st century gonna be asia. Well it's hard so we proud of doing it

@Polyglot_English 3 жыл бұрын

And 22nd is Africa

@kartawijaya3927 3 жыл бұрын

Well then we do it together :)

@eritafinds 3 жыл бұрын

23rd mars

@pasardepokid8328 4 ай бұрын

The pressure in more on when and how. We should help these oil palm farmers to reach the goals. We can not leave them alone.

@1voluntaryist Жыл бұрын

Who "certifies" the certifiers? What is the definition of "sustainable"? Why are the natives always unhappy, worried about the future? Why is it so hard for businesses to get along with the locals?

@Sam89365 3 жыл бұрын

I stopped consuming things that contain palm oil about a year ago and it was a great decision. Good for the waist line and environment 💪🏼

@zaxarispetixos8728 3 жыл бұрын

More for me👍

@GeorgeEstregan828 3 жыл бұрын

So no Chocolate or bread?

@Sam89365 3 жыл бұрын

@@djdjdjshhsuss3941 I encourage anyone to research it a little bit. Main issue is the deforestation of Indonesia's rainforests.

@BearMeOut 3 жыл бұрын

Almost all food need oil, by boycotting palm oil you are consuming other resources heavy plantation. Don't just boycott some food, but consume less. Eat everything you buy, don't waste food, don't go holiday with cruise ship, they waste a metric of plastic on the ocean. Don't buy a pet because they are breeded, go to pet adoption house.

@irturhamun 3 жыл бұрын

Don't use toilet paper as it is made from trees and can cause deforestation. Don't use plastic because it can pollute the sea and kill turtles. Do not use metal products because they can damage the environment when produced. Do not consume agricultural products because it can cause deforestation. Do not use computers and your devices because semiconductors can pollute the environment. And don't use anything that can damage the environment.

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

For all of you who oppose Palm Oil, please research more thoroughly. The biggest problem is deforestation and pollution. Deforestation is a problem for opening a new plantation (not for the existing one). Pollution problem should be solved by forcing companies to take sustainable certification (although it can increase the price of CPO). These 2 problems can't be solved by blindly make a campaign to ban palm oil products, that's a total mindless solution. Until now, palm oil still don't have a better substitution. You Europeans can check the fact about your soybeans, it's far less effective and it already takes much more lands than palm oils. Palm Oil ban campaign is not for global warming, the main reason is for politics by your governments to boost other natural oils that can be planted outside the tropical regions

@rudihadianto3401 3 жыл бұрын

at the end, the end users always dictates for their conveniences without care about the consequences.

@nm_mabs 11 ай бұрын

Where can I get palm tree oil in South Africa

@adibadham2959 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck everyone

@maemilev 3 жыл бұрын

*The certification is a joke. In malaysia you can actually buy off the auditor in the certification process!* just go to any palm oil plantations in sabah for hiking. You will see child labor everywhere.

@Trund27 3 жыл бұрын

Meow Milev That is horrific.

@izzattaz6290 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. But it's much worse in USA. Typical westerner.

@maulcoal 3 жыл бұрын

An accusation without any proof, oh how hilarious 😂

@kanemomon 3 жыл бұрын

Child labor in malaysia is a MAJOR accusation my dude.

@Jusssssssssssssssss 3 жыл бұрын

Child labor is considered as helping up the family on many poor country

@Camille_Boomer77000 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's why I stopped buying products with palm oil in it a long time ago. Source our food locally from local farms. You don't need to get it from across the world.

@goncaloguedes2899 3 жыл бұрын

That's amazing my man, if everyone that can stop buying stuff with palm oil does so it can make a big difference! :)

@arnowisp6244 3 жыл бұрын

Globalization is best! Self-sufficiency is inefficiency!

@babeabang 3 жыл бұрын

Gonçalo Guedes what about small farmers that depends their livelihood with oil palm? So it is not so easy to answer by stop buying.

@goncaloguedes2899 3 жыл бұрын

@BRYAN KENNEL I have to agree, they won't run out of people to sell their product to in the next few years even if a couple thousand people stop buying products with palm oil, it's a huge market, but if you make the decision to stop contributing to that industry you will be making a (small) difference. I hope that in the future we find other oils that can substitute palm oil and can be made in a more sustainable way.

@Hiruga666 3 жыл бұрын

How about your soap? How about your Nestle Unilever do yo like? How about shampoo? How about beauty product you use? All is palm based

@dreamercowa 3 жыл бұрын

Agriculture means planting trees. Blaming agriculture for deforestration is absurd if agriculture actually helps planting trees.. The real problems to tackle is if agriculture done in reserve forest. Deforestation could be from forest being burn without reason in california, amazon.. or even builds more building which can contribute to global warming. Are you saying to plant corn, olives,soy, didnt cause land to be clean first?

@stevengunawan3728 3 жыл бұрын

Right to the point. Palm oil is by far still the most environmentally friendly natural oil, which have the highest productivity, high carbon uptake, and little water footprint (most water is from rain)

@gumdum5258 3 жыл бұрын

We want it to be sustainable. Do whatever you need. Just keep the price the same.

@wakyIIsr 3 жыл бұрын

19% of global palm oil is certified sustainable by RSPO/MSPO/ISPO/POIG/ISCC -- but half is unsold. Why don't you buy this unsold stock?

@arnoldsedamin-wx9rs 11 ай бұрын

Mesan bibit sawit bagaimana caranya trmk

@Zkullz69 3 жыл бұрын

Over production of a plant creating problems? Seen this before.

@hirr1 3 жыл бұрын

Sure it never gets better because Pepsi and others do not pay more..

@lexframes5335 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and beacause Pepsi and so on wang to keep their margin high.

@izzattaz6290 3 жыл бұрын

Funny since you guys don't have much forest to destroy anymore.

@goncaloguedes2899 3 жыл бұрын

Why is it funny, I don't get it... do you think that people shouldn't be worried about deforestation?

@kotenbu7680 3 жыл бұрын

because this is propaganda. Palm oil is the most efficient way to produce vegetable oil. And it's funny how they point finger to Indonesia and Malaysia about sustainability and deforestation while America cant even solve their problem with sustainability.

@goncaloguedes2899 3 жыл бұрын

@@kotenbu7680 first of all, nobody said it wasn't a good option, it might be the best we have right now but is causing a lot of harm for the planet, we need to find a different solution. I have to agree with you, tho ones responsible for the majority of the climate change are developed countries and those are the ones that need to implement more agressive measures to reduce their emissions, but at the same time we can't allow the countries in development to develop themselves in the same way that other countries did in the past, we should help them find more sustainable and economically viable ways to better themselves. That's what I think...

@Seri-tt3tf 3 жыл бұрын

@@djdjdjshhsuss3941 yup and indonesia in retaliation just ban their nickel export which make those steel factory in europe need to build their factory to indonesia if they want to stay in the market wich may left many european lose their job thus why europe sue indonesia to wto amd indonesia reminding them about their threat to embargo palm oil. At the same time indonesia also boost their effort on research to 100% palm oil biofuel wich if succesfull mean that with the palm oil replacing diesel and fossil fuel indonesia might don't need to export their palm oil anymore as indonesia is quit royal with their fuel consumtion

@hypocritebuster8060 3 жыл бұрын

It's trade ploy by westerners to block palm oil sales. They have little forest and none of their commodities are certified sustainable. Big noise, small climate action as always.

@relaxchil5796 3 жыл бұрын

I work in oil palm plantation..and i believe its time to stop deforestation..enough is enough...lets just keep what we have now as it is...

@kentershackle1329 3 жыл бұрын

U should go VEGAN then, cos the culprit of deforestation is for planting raw material (soy/corn) for FEED MEAL for bovian. Aka meat. Palm Oil, beats the hell out of anything produced out there in terms of Production per hectare, chemically stability, Labour usage , Energy needed to maintain, pesticides , carbon foot print.. Its cheap not because cheap labour, or in developed country .. its just wayy SUPERIOR to anything else.

@kvasarakyat7126 3 жыл бұрын

Demonisation and discrimination of #palmoil is a form of 'crop apartheid', initiated by the same European inventor and their descendants.

@Heavenlyrules 2 жыл бұрын

Palm oil industry is damaging to the enviroment. . . . . . . until you run out of cheap cooking oil 🗿🤣

@kentershackle1329 3 жыл бұрын

Gosh, this video ignored the MAIN Problem of Certification. Company this, Coporate that... where as the BULK of production of Fresh Fruit Bunch is from Small stake holders!!. Small plots land owned by individual families. If a company has difficulty to comply (audit this/checklist that/ISO certification) imagine hw does these small holders able to?. What u fellas want?.Boycotting?. It will hurt these hard working n honest pple first. Then what? They supposed to sell thier land to corporations and work in the refinery?. That is why the respective government DONT enforce/enact the law. It will kill the very pple that mostly benefits frm it.

@cityspawn1326 3 жыл бұрын

Mammamamamamamama(conor macgregor said)

@kosakata8632 3 жыл бұрын

What a bullshit propaganda In malaysia and indonesia child mostly work in their own land, they need learn because they will takeover family business. What different with kids help his father in yard or kids do lawn mower jobs? Just ban if you want, we also can ban your products too XD

@life42theuniverse 2 жыл бұрын

How much fossil fuel is required to harvest a litre of palm oil? See Albert Bartlett for fossil fuels supply...

@Trund27 3 жыл бұрын

This has to be done. We will have a rotten Earth if this sustainability and fair trade doesn’t pan out.The indigenous peoples also must be protected! It’s important info to know that boycotts can actually hurt. I will try to buy only the sustainable and fair trade palm oil products.

@MrKkdkk 3 жыл бұрын

Define fair. What if it's packaged by tetrapak? What if it's sold by unilever or p&g? What about the pke used in livestock and pet fodder? What if it's used as biodiesel fuel to procure other commodities so you can have another "conflict-free" products?

@wakyIIsr 3 жыл бұрын

The indigenous and natives actually want to plant oil palm, because other crops are unprofitable. Google Dayak of Borneo and their association: DOPPA

@Polyglot_English 3 жыл бұрын

**VOTE THIRD PARTY**

@Fluskar 3 жыл бұрын

wow 55 views

@insertnamehere8103 3 жыл бұрын

Still more than you tbh

@PHCuber 3 жыл бұрын

luis lol roasted

@dhanasekaranshanmugam2988 3 жыл бұрын

Make that 361views

@matt2m 3 жыл бұрын

The fact this video only has 1k views after a day is proof this country is fucked. No one seeks knowledge and understanding.

@erdiprtm 3 жыл бұрын

It's propaganda

@lexframes5335 3 жыл бұрын

No it‘s a neutral report

@iamiamiam7367 3 жыл бұрын

@@lexframes5335 no, it is a politically biased report

@monsitime9370 3 жыл бұрын

Palm oil is bad unless its expeller pressed. It's also bad for the environment.

@harukrentz435 2 жыл бұрын

good. stay away from our palm oil we have enough markets to sell anyway.

@rasyidmuhammad6785 3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, before the this palm oil boycott, is start, every year Indonesia burn thier forest very wild. But since the boycott the Indonesian government start to take this problem very serious. With every year we having haze from Indonesia, for decade, but with world act they just start to be afraid. I'm blaming Indonesia government for this problem, instead of other poor country effect by this boycott. Do you know whenever there is wild fire the Indonesia government will take over the land by do nothing instead collecting to make new Capital City. People burn it because of demand, if they raise the land as plantation, the demand will decrease. This is how Indonesia government does solve the problem. People kept burn just desperate to fill the demand. But the Indonesia just seized the criminal, and kept the land by do nothing for decades. Until the president decide to build a new capital city.

@harukrentz435 2 жыл бұрын

actually the forest itself gets burn easily. look at history of forest fire in indonesia, its stretched back to early 2000's long before the booming of palm oil industry in indonesia.

@bulletraja8438 Ай бұрын

Dangerous oil for health

@yufengyan 3 жыл бұрын

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@jeffwalker9122 3 жыл бұрын

I hate the environment!

@nightqueen5002 3 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how this system is ... very awesome that there are those jobs in Guatemala! But palm oil is very bad not just for our body but environment.

@harukrentz435 2 жыл бұрын

congrats for being brainwashed

@tubirrr4569 3 жыл бұрын

These are Indonesian oligarchy bussines

@harukrentz435 2 жыл бұрын

yeah enjoy the high price now lol

@XaveRave 3 жыл бұрын

One sentence on how the company operates and maintains the school, clinics, roads and bridges. Yeah that's just trivial easy stuff to do...meh vaccinations and life changing education in rural parts of developing countries is not a big deal....now back to our agenda...this drying creek looks kinda muddy so obviously palm oil is unsustainable. Do better journalism