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The level of corrosion in this whole video is 11 out of 10... 500k wasn't even a bargain... 😲 In terms of Batteries, wouldn't a Molicel 21700 P45B Battery be way better and even smaller? And no way does that yellow monster have better amps or whatever? Those are like 8 bucks a pop...

I was biting my nails watching him move that battery with flip flops. Thank goodness he didn't drop it

Shop sandals are the best.

They're safety flip-flops.

Safety goggles is all I ask for them to wear.

Glad to see someone noticed besides me.

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Nah we dont. These guys are all I need.

1000000% Oh Hell yes! You know a smart person is actually smart when they can explain something to you in a way everyone gets it.

I would agree with you though realistically with most people either purchasing highly exuberantly overpriced material items. Only to destroy them (excuses about natural disasters, Hurricanes blah blah should not be accepted in reality) through complete false ignorance, you live in a hurricane prone area you shouldn't have any excuse to blame it!! So such exuberantly priced car ruined, no going, no operation, kaput!! How then is a PAPERWEIGHT able to be sold for over 500k??? No one is interested in educating themselves, they gave up learning ages ago this fact is far too obvious! Rebuilding for almost everyone is really outdated, throwing away is the trend now!! Take this battery for example. It was submerged completely in water & caught fire without the fuses blowing!! In a multi million dollar car!! How much money equates to quality or truth these days, as like Pfizer, no company will ever hold any responsibility!!!

@@MickeyMishra How many McLarens are you or your friends or anybody you know are going to ever own a McLaren...?

The only true OEM is in China somewhere.

The only reason any car company that would have you by the balls? That happens when you are interested in these pieces of over priced shit.

Sure they can, shareholders and investors demand a ROI. Company is first and for most beholden to the them more then they are the consumer. Company will squeeze those balls as much as they can to get as much as possible and keep that P/E ratio low.

Funny to see this brand again. Used it on an 570 enduro KTM. No other battery was able to crank the engine on lower power. Great products!

Would super B batteries be a cheaper build ? If not why bother.

It is a different European company, I have been to the assembly line of that McLaren battery. Absolute beast, the torture test they performed was a 400C constant discharge test. Meaning the battery goes from 100% to 0% in 9 seconds.

@@harrypjotr2381 Mclaren emploie spoted

@@libertyman3729 its not about the original company building the battery its about getting the information from the original maker on how to make any battery talk to the McLaren computers.

Way too much work. The hayabusa VW he's making is a easier because the EV motor is on the front and ICE is in the back, with Mclaren they are both in the rear and have to communicate with each other through their own proprietary hardware/software

Honestly, but that would require A stupid amount of R and D

He did with the VWBusa

YES

​am i the only person who actually wants him to ditch the hybrid? it just seems more logical, being more cheaper, more lighter, more unique, etc etc.

I knew that was you on his KZfaq channel testing the battery rich.

Gold 😂👏🏼👏🏼

Thats what modding is all about..

I thought he had white sneakers on..... must just be ashy

And Walmart flip flops.

You spelled moron wrong.

People going crazy under tavarish's video over this and here we just laugh it off cause of all the stupid stuff we've seen rich do with batteries xD besides if you got rubber on your feet you're safe anyway, doesn't matter if it's shoes or flip flops.

#Florida things. Steel toed safety sandals are a thing.

I wish them well I sure enjoy their content

Haha Tavarish wearing Slippers and lifting that heavy-ass battery and walking backwards with Rich on the other end had me looking for a comment about the safety levels ! 🙂

Grinding away with no safety glasses....safety third!....lol

theres medication 4 that

McLaren be like give me your money

@@echelonrank3927 I Wouldn’t recommend taking it 😂 See the future>be a vegetable.

They're deciding weather?

Except that insanely complicated/under engineered/overpriced is not a bug, it's a feature. This is a wealthy person's plaything not a daily driver Camry that will roll 200k with basic maintenance. People sometimes lose sight of that.

Except the chinese

​@@abigalanderson7494that battery is 100% Chinese.

@@manuelbarreto7032 I'm referring to reverse engineering

@@abigalanderson7494 And for what purpose the Chinese are going to reverse engineer their own battery cells from A123 systems (Wangxiang group)? Don't you know the most advanced batteries, inverters, electronics, BMS and powertrains are designed and made in China? Open your eyes, they surpassed the West long time ago, and in electric vehicles tech they are ages ahead. They are not copying anymore, they are in innovation phase now. Read about the patents and innovations from Contemporary Amperex Technology, in the west there is nothing like that.

@@manuelbarreto7032 The cells are, the packs were built in Dundee, Scotland by Axeon. Hugely advanced at the time.

Then you'd get... 15 miles of range! Woot! Dropping 400 lbs off of the car is the real ticket here.

A lot of people don't know, but those A123 cells seem in this video are special. They are designed for very high power relative to their storage capacity, which is necessary for a hybrid performance car. Typically lithium batteries can put out about 10 amps per 1 amp hour of storage capacity, whereas the A123 cells should be capable of ~6 times that as far as I know.

​@@julianbrelsford It's still wasted time and money. I get it that McLaren was trying to make a supercar experience and buffer the massive turbo lag with the hybrid system, but better engineering was what was really needed. Personally I'd have gone with a supercharger as it solves many problems. Turbos are good when you want to potentially save some weight and get good fuel economy, neither of which matter in this application. Mercedes, for instance, has several high-end cars with superchargers for this reason. More power, better delivery, and oh well, if MPG is your goal, maybe you can't afford this car. lol. An extra 50kg for a supercharger seems a prudent choice, IMO, versus a hybrid battery system. But McLaren went with turbos, so.. we'll see how undrivable Freddie's version is when he doubles the power. ;)

For the cost of this absolutely murdered P1, he could have bought almost any brand new McLaren and modded it. He could also have spent half of a P1 to have a 1,000+whp engine for his current one. But no, he bought a P1. Thus, I highly doubt this will be the case.

@rustler08 No doubt! I think the only way this was a good financial decision is if Freddy is getting massive views and making a TON of money off the content, which he most likely is. People love watching train wrecks and not only is the car a train wreck but the amount of time and money Freddy is investing is too. But I have no doubt Freddy will pull it off and come out a winner like he always seems to do!

@@rustler08 he did it for the clicks not because he wanted a challenge, it's business

P1 been built over ten years ago, so the cost of these batteries ten years ago could have been much more expensive than you pay for these batteries today.

@@mikkacthe way inflation is going Imma have to press X

Please tell me you’re joking… I worry about the people in this country sometimes lol nobody needs a McLaren why would you literally bet your home on it?????

WOW people are sooo stupid

Every time I see a McLaren or 911 turbo on the road I assume it’s their fifth car, and they paid cash. You’re telling me this is the car Brett from Sales drives?

@@johnsimon8457 Seems like it. I own my house outright and own my cars and trucks yet I am not going to put up my home for a fancy car. Screw that. Sorry cars are not that high end to me.

​@@kameljoe21I suspected it was like that but some people are being given inheritances for properties and which makes that easy for them to do.

To test the fuses properly they need to be removed, who knows what has shorted to what.

with that much oxidation? Nothing. It's all insulated lol@@dundeemink3847

If it using GFCI instead of normal fuses, who knows how much the battery prices could increase by :D

I bet that mclaren battery pack has that also built in and that battery pack is not as simple as rich makes out he’s got no idea how that can bud system works. That is where the real money is involved in those programmers that built and designed that original mclaren one of hybrid system and very advanced at the time no doubt

fuse comically large ? they are designed to do their job. of course slowly leaking is not something that's supposed to be handled by a fuse. any flooded with a high voltage battery (ev or hybrid) should be immediatly handled by professional to make sur the battery is completely disconnected and not shorting itself with remaining water. the battery fire could have completely burned the car to the ground and any car near it.

Only Tavarish 😅

He actually says "remember to lift with you back not with your legs" 😅 @5:51

and you got to love his safety slippers...

@@remnl yes, rated for 500 pounds 😆

To be fair, I don't think Tavarish claims to be smart. Lol

Ok but from what Rich say here is too expensive to rebuild the electric propulsion instead focus just on rebuilding the ice combustion motor alone, that way getting the P1 even lighter than previous and he can up-grade the engine with crazy performance components to get some serious power without the heavy electric BS..

Yea the p1 ice has alot of aftermarket parts 🤣 all off the shelf 🤣

They clearly put it in there not only to look "modern" and because F1 technology and all of that, but because the thing without it has a massive spot of turbo lag that needs covering or a whole new engine design to deal with it. With him just boosting it even more and getting rid of it, I predict old 911 Turbo levels of sideways and panic at full throttle, especially around corners. As for me? I would put the system back in with modern lighter and smaller components. Drives the same, easy to swap out/not wedged in there,, much less cost, faster charging.. all around better and doesn't mess with the way it drives. Half the weight as well. All of this is aside from the bit elephant in the room, which is reprogramming it to NOT use the hybrid system.

Time stamp?

That...and the fact that the battery was submerged...so heat was being consistently evacuated from the battery containment area as the surrounding water was vaporized.

@@jb678901 LiFePO4 will extinguish if the short is disconnected, unlike Li-Ion or LiPO. I build e-bikes and only use LiFePO4 cells in my packs for this reason. I may actually use those A123 cells in my next build too!

Repairing or replacing this would be far too costly & a waste of time. Better to delete the hybrid junk, reduce weight, & simplify the P1.

This is not meant to be replaced. McLarens are not regular case these are fancy overpriced toys for rich people. It's better to get rid of the hybrid junk and make it only run on gas

That sounds like a reasonable option.

@@geniferteal4178 i dont think thats gonna happen anymore as the hamilton collection found out it dint need a battery replacement and just a update or something, so that p1 battery isnt getting replaced i believe

Non ones buying that shit 🤣 anyone with that kind of money will avoid it like the plague 🤣

🤣🤣🤣👍

He's truly an Angel

I want someone to cook a li-ion to and see how it fairs. I am thinking it will leak fire rather than actually explode. Leak fire like a rocket engine. Seen people run screws into cells and no boom.

It's very easy to remove this complicated and obviously useless E system. 6 miles of range vs 400lbs is a no brainer. The 400lb savings will make the car faster, with better handling, but the MPG will go up so in the end it'll have a better range anyhow. EVs/hybrids are more about marketing gimmicks and government grants than anything practical

@@RonniePTexan Oh, I agree that it should be removed. My question was not whether it should be done, but rather how hard will it be to get the car's computer to be okay with the electric system not being in there at all. And for the record, we'll have to disagree with each other about hybrids and EVs being gimmicks. In general, I love them. But on a supercar? No thanks!

@@realzyxtomatic The car's ECU can easily be spoofed into thinking that it's getting a reading from the battery pack for example. Almost all automotive gauges and sensors run off of a 0-5v feedback. The resistance change takes it from a full 5 volts to 0 volts with more resistance. The other forms of feedback are basic as well, they all use a form off a hall effect. A hall effect sensor can also be easily spoofed using a simple transistor. The bottom line is that the car's ECU can be fooled with about $20 in parts and it'll never even throw a trouble code. The EV and hybrid vehicles are only being built because of massive government subsidies and tax loopholes made to push the EV market. They are more expensive to build, cause real environmental harm (not the boogyman C02) and have practical use only in certain climates and for certain uses. EVs are a niche that is being propped up with government money and sold as a marketing gimmick as a perfect thing. Try driving one outside of a large city and outside of a set commute/predictable use. Or try to drive them on the Gulf Coast or East Coast where it's common to need a vehicle that can drive through a bit of water. Or try to drive them when it's sub-freezing and your range gets cut in half (if you're lucky!). These are problems with a brand new Tesla with all of the latest and greatest batteries etc. I personally like that Teslas and other EVs are fast, I personally like the idea of them on clear days for someone doing a predictable daily commute. They have their place, but the idea that they can replace every vehicle on the road with an EV is delusional. The infrastructure and power grid alone make this a non starter. The inability to take trips, even a few hours away make this a non starter. Batteries degrading over time is another obvious reality that gets ignored. But the marketing gimmick supercedes all of these things somehow. Just think of any battery that you've ever used, from a regular car battery to cellphones or laptops or anything else and think of what happens after 3-5 years. Those battery companies have been trying to make them last longer as well.

​@realzyxtomatic resistors solve these issues normally when you install a racing seat or delete airbags ect

@@minzahhh1 Bingo.

@@danfinn4373time stamp?

Jackpot

3:05 look at the top urls for steevon hints

@@danfinn4373which vid was that?

@@elijahevo6859didnt even notice, thanks!

Time stamp?

@@RZKnator2:35

nah thats lightly used, it hasn't been wrapped around a tree yet

I rather know about history of the car than being lied to. If you buying a used sport car, always assume the worst.

Exactly, that's why they're building hybrid supercars to get super fast acceleration, next Bugatti will be hybrid for the exact reason, also what with electric motors?! Deleting electric powertrain might be economic thing to do but it is not solution

Unlikely to find a used battery or pay 156k, just as unlikely to properly reverse engineer... Only option is probably to beg mclaren for at least the circuit boards and then add more modern cells, or what does anyone else think?

@@clixium That is Not Why they are, The reason they are is because electric motors product 100% torque at an instant. An "ICE" Internal Combustion Engine does not, and it is only actually partially efficient at a certain RPM range. Every where else its horrible in efficient. Electric cars are more powerful than internal combustion, thats the science. A tesla produces 100% s much torque than a Super Duty DIESEL pickup truck... "a 400-hp 6.8-liter V-8 with 445 pound-feet of torque. At the opposite end of the pecking order is a 500-hp 6.7-liter V-8 High-Output Power Stroke Diesel, good for up to 1050 pound-feet" "With its triple-motor powertrain, the Model S Plaid makes a staggering 1,020 hp and 1,050 lb-ft of torque"

@@clixium Look at the Dark Matter electric motors from Koenigsegg also, That can produce 600KW PER CORNER... Meaning you Could equip a car with 4 of them quite effectively thanks to the size. Thats 800 American Horse powers, Per wheel. 3200 Hp.. 3688 lb ft of torque. Each of them only weigh 86 lbs. So 344 Lbs for your power plant, an LS engine weighs about 460 lbs fully trimmed. An LSX aluminum block bare weighs Something like 220 lbs. Just to put that in perspective.

​@@crisnmaryfam7344the major reason why they go hybrid is because of restrictions on pollution, emissions, engine size, etc. The fastest drag cars aren't hybrid

Again, why would he spend more than a 765LT brand new on a wrecked car? He's probably close to $1m and that just wouldn't make any sense because then it's just a fancier 720S. I don't think he bought this just to try to make the car worth less than his initial investment for KZfaq clicks with a cool engine. He'd have to turn the engine's rev limiter way up before the hybrid system cared about the difference in power, and if he just wanted power he could have made a video series on his current car. Or bought a 720S and thrown in 1,400whp. But, he didn't

A P1 restored to like new original specifications would have a resale vale *much* greater than a hacked restomod. I don't know for sure if resale value ranks high in Tavarisch's game plan, but I suspect it is a serious consideration.

Most P1 owners get rid of the battery. It just isn’t worth it. Rich is right.

I agree with you 100%; On the initial purchase of the car. That P1 was already purchased from McLaren at retail cost by its first owner-that purchase already covered those fixed costs (and all fixed costs for the P1). As you said, all of it is certified and proven. Replacement batteries, which definitionally only go into cars that were at some point purchased new from McLaren, are now only the marginal cost of components, Assembly, verification & delivery. Doubly so since that $126k doesn’t cover the labor that will be done by McLaren (for all but this one swimming special edition) to install it.

Yes, if they are able to reverse engineer the parameters the can bus looks for they could have an intermediate chip that sends said data. The hardest part here being, having a buddy with a P1, and letting him hook up to the can bus to read values, and then being able to reverse engineer a bunch of hex data and can id's onto what the car actually expects. The matter of fact is that this isn't impossible, there is a guy out there in youtube that reverse engineered the AMG can bus (RAND_ASH) he alone replaced the original infotainment for a screen being run from a small PC all this with can bus reverse engineering, all depends on how obscure this info is to get.

lol the original did NOT use a brushed motor. only car with a brushed motor I can think of are those old small 3 wheelers with the leas acid battery. anything above that power class physically can't afford a brushed motor because it wouldn't be able to be cooled adequately.

@@drkastenbrot as I said, it was an assumption, based around my understanding that commercial brushless motors are a newer idea, particularly for use in EV's and that in the late 90's brushed motors were the default, regardless of power class.

@@Blue84Stang Brushed motors are completely impractical for any higher amount of power. The sheer size required would make them more expensive than brushless, all costs included. The first Prius already had a sophisticated brushless system with a water-cooled inverter, and that was for only about 30 ish kW of motor power.

@@drkastenbrot I mean, that doesn't mean that they didn't, just that they would have been dumb to do so.... But anyways, I don't really care what the car WAS.... I just want to see it stay a hybrid, especially since a new custom-built pack has the ability to take that factory 400v 4.7kWh pack to 12.48kWh at 416v (give or take a volt). Granted, that much of an increase would increase the car's weight by about 25kg, but that can be accounted for with a much more efficient motor. Now, I don't know about you, but a P1 with 18miles of pure ev range, and the ability to charge from dead in full in say a half hour (or less, realistically), is one hell of a cool idea.

@@Blue84Stang It does mean that they didn't. Beyond a few kW brushed motors get really complicated to cool. Besides the range and power loss due to inefficiency, you now also get the additional weight, size and cost of a way bigger cooling system. All for a motor that costs about the same. The little city 3 wheeler cars that I referenced earlier are

Richard proceeds to lift with legs but tavarish lifted with back :D

If your p1 batteries break,just make your own for cheap lol

Nooooo shit! 3AH Dewalt 20V is stupid. Almost $200. HVAC guy so it sees daily use and burns my ass when I have to buy one lol.

NO

How much more value can the car lose after life decided to use a hurricane to give the car a salt-water bath?

@@daexion Sell the Parts build a better Ev ,..far better

@@-LightningRod- waiting for your vid to drop

@@TheRealSykx thanks friend, ..i just leave it to all these talented people,..i wish i was smrter