Marvel has made a lot of people not care about Marvel anymore.

Feels refreshing to hear a female call them out, respect

Well said. Boys need more role models to look up to. And shaming men and saying they can't be role models can lead to further problems down the line, because they might seek other role models that might be far worse than fictional characters.

By far one of the most annoying traits in modern male characters is the need to gush and affirm the female heroine. Either that of be utterly intimidated and act insecure. Either way they immediately recognise their inferiority and act in such a way as that it might as well be flashed up on the screen 'SHE'S BETTER! SHE'S BETTER!' The most cringeworthy example was in Supergirl, where after fighting Superman they made a point of him saying he wasn't holding back and she as 100% stronger than him. He just outright said it. Despite them both being Kryptonian and him having twice her muscle mass she's stronger- and the audience better damn well know it.

The least desireable traits in modern male characters these days are the women who write them.

They're doing it on purpose. Its 100% intentional.

It's not just the writers and producers. Some male actors are to blame as well. Harrison Ford has willingly participated in the assassination of the two characters who made him famous, Han Solo and Indiana Jones. He could have said, "No. This is not how it ends for Han Solo. This is not how Indiana Jones goes out." But for money, or for sheer nihilism, he took the money and allowed Hollywood to destroy characters he breathed real life into. Mark Ruffalo, Mark Hamill, Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, they made characters people loved, and then they participated in their meaningless destruction. There were other options. They could have said, "Re-cast the film. I won't do it," or "re-write this. This is not my character." But they didn't. If they can't be bothered to care about their work, why should we?

There is a deep irony in the way so many people have gone after the nerd community for reacting against these kinds of portrayals. They brand nerds as weak, impotent incels who can only feel powerful in fantasy and who, when they feel their fantasy worlds threatened, express their fear as sexism and racism. But how is this different than the unrealistic (and therefore impotent) power fantasies embedded in these new female characters? And if it isn't different, shouldn't we start calling nerd culture "empowering" instead of passive? Seems like they would have to endorse that if they don't want to turn their nasty insults against themselves.

So many franchises were butchered all in favour for making the women "stronger and masculine", but make men wimpy and just pathetic. I'm not ashamed to admit I like strong male AND female characters if the writing is good. But if the writing is not good then I have no reason to care about the characters or the movie or show they're starred in. Woke Hollywood can go rot.

Im glad theres still ladies like you nowadays understanding that men and women being naturally different is simply and absolutely a scientific biological fact not some kind of shady discrimination or sexism or degrading of women in any way

The frequency with which male heroes/main characters die to redeem themselves in movies is scary. The suggestion that men, having made a mistake, should exist only long enough to do one last good action, before their value runs out and they must die. While the Last Jedi does this, badly, the Rise of Skywalker does it even worse: where Kylo surrenders his life so that Rey can live, the movie tells us that Kylo's value < Rey's value, or that Kylo's only value as character is to give his life. I'm not opposed to stories where character's sacrifice themselves per se, but if it's a good story telling idea, why don't we see men and women both doing it?

I’ve noticed this too and it’s weird to see. They make male character incompetent now while the women are absolutely perfect. Its weird when you notice it. Its not for everything (almost for Disney now a days) but its happening way more often.

I have one little nitpick here. The "equly trained" argument does not really work in real life because different people start to train and fight based on the knowledge of their strenghts and weaknesses, once they have reached a certain skill level. I see that in mediaeval long sword, where at some point, strength is less of a factor, because you can work around you opponent being stronger. While strength certainly does help, agility and speed are as, if not even more important. A sword in example, is a force multiplier but you only need a certain amount on force to lets say sever an arm and force is a combination of strength and speed. This does however not undermine your points - in in fact strengthens your argument about bad writing. The writers assume women need to be as strong as men to be superior fighters, while they only need to fight differently.

Fascinating video. I've also noticed an insidious decline in the representation of young boys in the media that is traditionally targeted towards them (video games, fantasy films and shows). Instead there is an over representation of little girls. It's just odd because growing up, my friends and I took a lot of arrows being labeled as geeks and nerds for consuming these media. Now that I'm older and these things have become mainstream, we're sort of being cast aside; presumably because they assume men will automatically consume these media, so they only need to target women. And it's not that they just choose to include more women (which is perfectly fine and proper), but they almost always do it at the expense of their male counterparts.

I am that kid marvelled by the poise and innate talent of Luke (my namesake) back in the day. To see Luke dispossessed (and the whole spirit of SW for that matter) was a disappointment. Instead he should literally have gone into Master of the Universe territory, albeit in his style: admired, humble, peaceful, powerful, and respected. I am glad someone like you can so eloquently denounce this betrayal.

For me, weak men are fine. But what ticks me off is if they don't mature or progress in the story to make them stronger and stand up for themselves, then there's a problem with the character.

Glad to hear it from someone else, same stuff I've been seeing and thinking in these new movies. Grate video! Keep up the good work.

I did at first agree about Bruce in She-Hulk: Bruce appeared to be yet another example of the male punching bag character against which the female main character can show how much better they are, UNTIL the end of the series when we see that everything he warned her would happen had come true for her through the events of the show. They drew no attention to this mind you; it would have been nice to have a single throwaway line of "what do you know, Bruce was right". One way to solve this "men are lame, women are cool" lazy writing is to show the smugness they have for being in this position to be categorically a character flaw. That way you could have the male-female dynamic be: "man was lame, but well intentioned - woman character was skilful, but a dick" - cue reconciliation scene later on. Seeing the genders flipped on these roles would be refreshing as well, though making a female main character appear stupid would shock the sensibilities of modern audiences too much at this stage.

It's only a matter of time until a new generation of talented writers create a new generation of inspired heroes. The real question is whether or not they'll sell out.

Wait, they said that? I love D&D stories. Why would they alienate the people who like these stories? Of corse, i ask this every time a modern film comes out.... I never get a good answer.

In Return of the Jedi, they made Lando a general. They made Han Solo a general. It's in the dialogue. Both of these characters had a great arc, and Luke wasn't a general but his arc was even more defined. I do not see how or why Han and Lando would not have remained generals (like what, "Oh, I quit now that we won...?" - uh, what?) Being a general is like, something people would maybe continue to do... And Luke was like, yeah, I trained some guys and one was bad, and oh, it's Han and Leia's kid - he's totally evil, and I can feel it, but whatever. What they did to Star Wars is laughably stupid, and it was painful to watch on screen. I don't watch Marvel movies, because they're too stupid. I liked the first Iron Man, and the first Captain America.

Marvel fucked up soooooo bad when it comes to The Hulk.... I'll never forgive them for that.

What I find extremely odd about Disney’s disempowerment of men is that the entire company is run mostly by men. What’s the reasoning behind that? Is it a cloak to hide their control? What do you think?

One of the most popular characters in the new Star Trek programs is Chris Pike, the captain of the enterprise. He came into a show full of angst, violent and unlikable characters with warmth, drive and charisma. He was almost the only good thing about that show. So likable he almost single handily made HIS show a really. There has always been something off about him in his tv show, though, and I couldn’t quite put my finger on it till an episode where he learns a planet is sacrificing kids. Basically, he has no fangs. He is way too nice. They made him none threatening. When you think of Picard or Kirk you always bring up their moral outrage, those are some of the best scenes from those characters. When someone does something malicious they don’t stand by nor do they stay quiet. There is rage on their part to do the right thing. Pike doesn’t have this. Yeah, he stands up for the morally correct but he is never imposing. He’s downright bashful at times. When he’s on the bridge he’s not commanding. He’s nice and subdued. The original Pike was stern, rugged, even. This Pike is clean and gentle. Good traits to have, no doubt, but he’s also a captain without a commanding presence. That episode where he learns they sacrifice kids, he stands there, kinda meekly, asking ‘hey, guys, what’re ya doin’?’ and it almost came out of nowhere when he starts swinging because his behavior from talk to action is such a drastic change it came off as erratic.

Always nice to hear a woman who actually likes men, and male characters call out this rubbish! One of the worst modern examples however I've seen of this trope is in the wheel of time Amazon series. It's my lady's favourite fantasy book series, and one I also enjoy a great deal, so we were looking forward to seeing the adaptation. It's also a series which really explores the differences between men and women, even in it's magic system and world building. It features some awesome, complex and very nuanced characters, male and female, and yet the series just turned into a feminist slog fest, with every female character super powered and constantly complemented, and male characters so bumbling and incompetent, one character literally kills his own wife (an insertion of the series), by swinging an axe around the wrong way in the first episode! They even utterly remove the idea of male and female magic as well! though make everything bad in the world the men's fault! It was an appalling bastardisation of an amazing book series, indeed I deliberately avoided watching Rings of power because I'm as huge a Tolkien fan as my wife is a wheel of time fan, and I didn't' want to see Tolkien's work get the same scummy treatment, which (by all accounts), it obviously did in rings of power!

4 Annoying Main Male Stereotypical Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Seriously Stop Showing: 1. The Creepy Sexual Womanizer 2. The Hyperfeminine Flamboyant Whiner 3. The Lazy Drunkard 4. The Macho Gangster Thug 4 Amazing Male Characters That Entertainment Companies Should Definitely Show: 1. The Clever Scientist 2. The Heroic Warrior 3. The Protective Family Man 4. The Successful Entrepreneur

I think much of it comes from an 'eye for an eye' mentality over the last several years. Don't get me wrong, purely in fiction alone plenty of female characters have been done wrong. But over the last several years it feels kind of like the 'popular' thing to do is basically do the same thing to male characters. Problem comes from how it gets done. Which usually has them written stupid purely for the sake of making the story work, and yeah, building up the female main character(s). And obviously, nothing wrong with a male character playing second fiddle or supporting a female main. Same goes for the other way around, really in general there will obviously be one or more characters in such stories that act as support, or are secondary characters. It's just how it goes. But when they're written to be so incredibly stupid, or just so incapable of kind of milk toast bland just for the sake of the female lead(s), that's where the problem lies for me. It sometimes then I feel hurts the female characters cause it almost comes across as if the writers feel those characters aren't good enough without cutting down the ones around them. I mean hell, take Kim Possible. Ron was a great character and he was support. Kim, obviously the lead, was her own good character with both her own strengths and weaknesses. Ron also had his moments to shine too. And while he couldn't go toe-to-toe with the villains like Kim, that didn't stop him from doing what he could even through the absurd comedy. And you never felt like Ron was being written stupid just to make Kim appear better. That's how it needs to be done, in such situations. To go along with the above, and was touched upon in the video, in media lately it feels like when there's a female lead basically all the male characters are written to either be evil and/or misogynistic, harmless goofballs, or just that kind of bland harmless where you clearly don't expect them to do anything or be capable of anything. It's also kind of bad when the media is trying to do a romantic interest. Cause generally they'll put a couple options out there, but it's very clearly the only one guy who's generally none of those from above. So it's obvious, cause they're the only ones half way interesting or can seriously be seen as feasible. It does make it frustrating, cause honestly both male and female characters can be kick ass, and can and should be looked up to regardless of gender. But when one or other keeps being painted in such a poor way...yeah.

Men in modern movies and TV are either idiots, villains, or dead/dying. It's rather comical.

They can easily make a strong female character who is likable and doesn't have to bring down the male character like Nik Khan in Extraction 2.

I like your analysis. It's difficult to ..... we've been hammered so so much. Thanks .

You make a compelling argument. I think there had to be a perception amongst the creators of modern media that males have had unfair preferential placement in the past and they need to correct that by over-compensating and reducing the male hero archetype. We saw it in Last Jedi, I'm told it's the same in Dial of Destiny, and from what you're saying it's prevalent in Marvel too. The thing is we HAVE had strong female characters and we didn't need to hurt the male archetype to give them the prestige they deserve. Princess Leia in the OT was a great female character and the role she played was fitting. We already had a female Indiana Jones in the form of Lara Croft, we don't really gain anything by having Indy pass the hat and the whip to a talented, but poorly cast female 'god-daughter'. It's like the whole Sequel Trilogy thing. Rey, from my perspective doesn't earn her success in the same way Luke had to - and that harms her character. Luke, could have been handled soooooooooooooooo much better. There was literally no reason to portray Luke the way they did other than to stick to fingers up to fans of the franchise and say, 'Star Wars is ours now and this is what we're doing with it, and if you don't like it Forget you!' I like subversive writing and stories. I don't object entirely to Luke throwing his lightsabre over his shoulder... but... Yeah, people are calling this bull out and it'll cause a sway the other way. Hopefully eventually the issues and the hamfisted attempts to resolve them will even out and we'll start to get good portrayals of heroes and heroines that don't need to reduce each other in order to prove a point.

Luke should, logically, have been a mentor to an immature and still-learning Rey. But they wrote Rey as a fully-formed hero, not needing a mentor. She was parentless; Luke might have been written as a surrogate parent in his role as teacher. The second film might have been a rough parallel to Empire Strikes Back; Rey might have experienced actual character growth, and Luke would have purpose. As to Kenobi -- don't get me started on that unfortunate, ill-thought-out, illogical mess. Whenever a little kid is controlling an adult, I want to scream. And putting an iconic character -- the title character -- into this embarrassing situation: what were they thinking? At the end of the day, it's the same problem as with the (dreadful) Rings of Power: the writing is awful.

I grew up with the Mad Max Trilogy and I still love it I was one of the few people that hated "Mad Max Fury Road" because Max was a sidekick in his own movie. It was a Furiosa movie. Now we are getting Furiosa in her own film (no Max). I don't give a rip about Furiosa. I'm sick of it.

Some of the best analysis on the internet. Thank you.

i learned the word "pusillanimous" yesterday. i feel like i've been lied to my whole life.

I agree on a lot of points in your video but with male on female fight the male is always the strongest but that's in a fair fight. We've seen many stories throughout history where heroes fight impossible creatures and people and overcoming it with their sheer will and inteligence. And I feel like if a female character is well written can fight on equal footing with a man.

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Yup, this has been the sad reality as of late. The only male leads I enjoyed seeing, or in my case playing as, was Cal Kestis (Jedi Survivor) and Clive Rosfield (Final Fantasy XVI).

This is why mostly consume korean media because they show male characters as actually masculine and as Men

The biggest issue with Professor Hulk is that they skipped right to him. He should have had his own movie in between Infinity War and Endgame and we as the audience could have seen his journey to getting there and it would have felt earned. Now looking at professor Hulk I feel cheated.

Excellent video. We deserve better writing. I want my daughter, 15 to be inspired by realistic hero’s

We indeed NEED, REAL heroes to believe in. Without it, we have nothing to look up to and aspire to become like. Great take NerdWord,

The d&d movie was ok to me specifically because it was d&d. Characters are often crazy and unrealistic, a nerd may play a big barbarian, a girl may play a boy, ect. Spot on everywhere else though!

At this point, my drive for being a story teller has reached a point where I want to just not apply for any major studios and just do a solo project to prove to these mega corps that we can still make good heroes without anything clouding our judgement

Thor was alpha male throughout Thor: Love and Thunder. Thor saved the people on that planet at the beginning, he saved Sif, he saved Valkyrie, he saved the children and he save Jane (when Gorr wounded her and then leapt in the air to finish her off ). Thor also took on some responsibility by adopting Love. How many men are refusing to take responsibility as fathers today? Btw, Valkyrie knew where Eternity was, NOT Thor. She told Thor how to get there. One more thing: If Loki is correct in Thor 2 that Asgardians live to be about 5,000 years old and Thor is only 1,500 years old, then Thor is equivalent to a 24 year old male today. How immature is THAT? When I was 24 I finally started to get it together and I got married at 25. The humor was cringe in Love & Thunder but it was really not woke like many claim (only Korg and his lewd crude song and Dwayne - which seemed like another cringe woke joke - we're they poking fun at wokeness?).

What i find weird is that they don't seem to be able to lift women up, without knocking men down, why?

🦉🐯 Some adaptations (or organisations) have a way of castrating strong male characters, properly and seriously emasculating them, putting their own narrative to the forefront, whether it makes sense or… usually not, their only success is via a multitude of lies with falsified (purchased) figures showing positive likes! And we, the long-standing fans who’ve grown up with these heroes are left to just… suck it up.

I agree with most of it but not with John Walker point. Dora Milaje beating John is okay bcs they r skilled warrior. Even Widow and Hawkeye can't win against them and John is just soldier. I honestly find it sexist that whenever physical strength comes in fantasy gener suddenly bcs in real life woman are weaker than man so in fantasy too it should reflect it. But then we have Batman the most ridiculously OP character, the human with no power is going around beating universal being hand to hand and noone once ever thinks how can a human with no magical ability is able to fight equally as Superman? How can he find solution to everything. Just bcs he is a man , the same people criticizing woman's strength have no problem with him. Infact it's opposite they enjoy it. In Superhero gener the power dynamic sucks. As long u r titular character even if you are slime you will win against anyone. I don't even find sense in how come humans have solution for everything. Thanos army is physically lot stronger than humans and uses lot stronger materials yet human-made weapon have good effect on them. Not to say how the environment never affects anyone anywhere. Superheroes gener is most illogical gener out of all but ironically it tries to be logical and realistic. 🤷

Hey, Kaetie! There's no doubt that there's an endemic, concerted effort to undercut male characters to elevate female ones in a ham-fisted, inorganic manner to promote an agenda at the expense of narrative. Every beloved and traditionally male-oriented franchise has been affected by this. However, some of your examples don't fall into this category and actually work. Smart Hulk served a purpose narratively and was the logical end-point of an integration arc. If Marvel intends to do World War Hulk, the reversion to savagery can be mined for a great deal of pathos as well. I just wish we had gotten one more solo savage movie or a less comedic take on Planet Hulk in "Ragnarok" where he was a reduced to a sulky baby by Waititi. The best, most comic-accurate and psychologically insightful Hulk movie was the proto-MCU "Hulk" by Ang Lee which I consider the true starting point of the MCU in my head canon as that was the intention at the time. I agree that his role in "She-Hulk" was a travesty as was that entire show which destroyed MULTIPLE characters! "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" was one of the best TV entries for its realism, comic-sourced contributions and continuity with the MCU as a whole. Sam was ALWAYS sympathetic to the Flagsmasher cause but opposed to their methods. Standing up for the disenfranchised against indifferent bureaucracy is something Steve would have championed as well. Sam's background as a counselor enabled him to put aside personal grievances and to find common ground. The problem here was Erin Kellyman who was as grossly miscast here as she was in "Solo" as Enfys Nest. Gender-bending Morgenthau was fine but required someone more forbidding, charismatic or commanding. She was never credible as the leader. She must have a powerful friend to keep getting choice roles in huge properties. She was also one of the reasons "Willow" was unwatchable! Wyatt Russell was terrific as John Walker! He threaded the needle between earnest and smug beautifully. He's not meant to be a suitable substitute but he's also not really a villain. He gets a tragic fall, a comeuppance and a redemption. Having the Dora Milaje trounce him was completely believable because those ladies LOOK LIKE they could do it! They're muscular, agile, armored and fierce! The defeat convinces him he has to level up by taking the serum since they weren't enhanced so the plot is advanced. Usually slim women are made to triumph over beefy men improbably but, in this instance, it was totally credible because the Dora Milaje are like Themiscyran Amazons. . Loki not taking the Stones makes sense because they can only be used in their native universe and are inert at the TVA. The timelines from which they came have all been pruned. Is he supposed to carry a pocketful of rocks everywhere hoping that one might be of use somehow? He was in a state of shock at the revelation, too. I did not care for the strident, prickly and generally unpleasant Sylvie. Lady Loki should have been cast as she is illustrated in the comics as a voluptuous, sultry, sensuous raven-haired femme fatale. Being seduced by a variant as sly as himself as a narcissistic joke would have worked much better that way. Unrelated but how could Lamentis be colonized in 2077? Lamentis is an extrasolar world! That means interstellar travel will be possible in the MCU in the next 50 years since they are now set at 2025 in-universe! Is some technological quantum leap about to pop off? A more realistic date would have been 2277 like the Star Trek timeline. The treatment of Thor is a crime. Waititi has no respect and Hemsworth needs to be slapped straight. It's abhorrent. "Obi-Wan Kenobi" was a dumpster fire that wasted McGregor, Christensen, Smits, Edgerton, Neeson and everyone who participated. A pointless exercise that damaged canon and robbed the raw power of the 'Twilight of the Apprentice' two-parter from "Rebels" for its climax! A cynical, traumatized Kenobi could have worked with a different flashback each episode informing a present-day scenario. However, Leia was the focus instead of Luke. A wasted opportunity to explore Qui-Gon, Satine, Maul, Anakin, Ahsoka and Krrsantan. You would be remiss not to include "Shang-Chi", an atrocious adaptation of the comics written by Doug Moench and illustrated by Paul Gulacy which were gritty, sexy, violent and espionage-heavy. In the comics, Shang-Chi is the son of the Sax Rohmer pulp villain Dr. Fu Manchu but they changed it in the film to have him be the son of Tony Stark's nemesis in the comics, the Mandarin. The license to use Fu Manchu had long since expired and the Chinese government would have prohibited distribution of the film in the lucrative Asian market due to cultural hypersensitivity about "Yellow Peril" stereotypes. Instead, both the Mandarin and Shang-Chi are nerfed into a lovelorn widow with sentimental aspirations to reconnect with his prodigal son and a Beta-male slacker suffering from arrested development, respectively. Despite sanitizing and defanging the story, the Chinese government banned the film anyway so Disney compromised their artistic integrity for nothing! The Ten Rings are the Mandarin's weapons and are a product of Makluan science, an alien civilization whose beings resemble talking dragons. Hence, the motif of talking dragons in Chinese folklore. They have nothing to do with Shang-Chi whose stories are like a mash-up of Bruce Lee and James Bond! It's a 125-issue run that Quentin Tarantino grew up devouring! Tremendous mega-stars like Tony Leung and Michelle Yeoh are frustratingly wasted in this dreck! Shang-Chi's sister and Awkwafina are given the limelight. Ben Kingsley reprising Trevor Slattery was painfully unfunny. He should have appeared as a torture victim sadistically kept alive for the temerity of impersonating the Mandarin as a way of demonstrating the ruthlessness and narcissism of the villain. This film was a huge disappointment and completely unrecognizable from the source material. A terrible shame as it could have been as culturally significant to the Asian community as "Black Panther" had been to the African community.

There’s a novel out there that completely averts that. It’s called The Changing of the Gods by Anthony J. Miano. The main character is Hades.

Never thought about it, this is eye opening

Looks like there is a truly massive gap in the market right now. Someone is going to make a fortune filling it.

I am not giving Disney a pass on this but my personal take of why Luke was so flippant with Rey was because he could feel she was a descendant of palpatine. The franchise likes to quote Lucas "it's like poetry it rhymes" only it's not rhyming it's echoing. As Ben never told Luke his lineage Luke knew if she knew beforehand she would've embraced the emperor wholeheartedly because he would've accepted her, but that's my take from the lackluster writing in the majority of the star wars saga. Thank you this video was awesome.❤

Unless that male character is played by Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise characters are awesome

This is what happens when writing rooms need to be a minimum half filled by feminist activists.

Dudes have been Nerfed and female characters broken

It's not often I agree with a view 100%. but this⬆⬆⬆⬆

I'm not sure they'd know how to write a strong male character - or a female one (given that doing so often relies on magically being better than anyone else). But some of this is likely the medium. If the film is a rollercoaster ride, then you don't slow down and find the emotion. If you're desperately trying to be postmodern or meta, then you're probably focused on quippy banter or landing a joke. I'm not sure you can create a strong character if you can't go 30 seconds without a joke. If you engage with a character, then whether they're strong or not, they probably have something interesting going on. Strength in either gender likely starts with motivation and character. But if you're dealing with someone who wants every film to have the bright colors and pop feel of an episode of Lizzy McGuire, then you're not going to get anywhere. You might remember a scene in which a character is strong, but you often need the hour of work - seeing their struggles, seeing what they have to lose etc.

One of the most sinister things about all of this, is the effect that it *will* have on society. The stories a society tells itself, and tells *about* itself, both reflect, and *shape* that culture. The human race isn't going to suddenly become saints and quit producing villains. Boys and men see how they get treated in media... even the heroes. Two things are going to happen... 1) Men aren't going to want to be heroes anymore, because no one wants to be treated like that. 2) Women are going to have to be their own heroines. Like Dave Chapelle said, "Chivalry is (no more) and..." Movies and shows like those discussed in this video, are just "making water" on the grave.

You should make your video louder. It's still a bit quiet even on 60% / 60% volume settings

4:49 "It simply doesn't work that way." The summation of it all. I know some folks would like it to work that way, but it doesn't. Men have the physical advantages; women have the psychological advantages. We see this all day, every day.

And Hollywood wonders why nobody wants this

we just need a holywood alternative

I agree with most of these but you also have to understand that Loki was in shock. He had no way of getting out and was basically told that they were useless anyways. Also okoye is one of the highest trained soldiers in one of the most advanced countries in the world so I think she would have been trained a bit better

i also love in some of these netflix midevil type shows a woman can beat not only 1 man but a dozen or more on a battlefield. its just amazing.

Chris pine made some millions. So I'm sure not a shit was given to the character being emasculated

Facts!

If ever they make a live action Berserk series or movie Guts better be as he is in the manga and anime.

Thank you for saying all that. I agree with every single word and have been saying that for years myself. These weak male characters are annoying, unrealistic and no depth. There is nothing more attractive than a strong man. They only look strong with muscles for days, but then a tiny female can defeat them anytime anywhere... WTF

Im not disney! Im supporting female critics that are non woke! Like and subscribe!

To be fair, D&D honor among thieves is not the worst offender as far as character mistreatment. Was what the writers said stupid? Yes. Did they still make a very funny film with likeable characters? Also yes. The male characters do actually get decent character arcs.

Nailed it

I respectfully disagree with your assertion on men always being able to best a woman in a fight if they are both similarly trained. Muscles aren't always a deciding factor in a fight. There's a lot more I could say but I'll leave it at that.

I disagree. Luke was drinking GREEN milk, not blue milk. But all jokes aside, I completely agree with this

I'm sorry I'm man, I'm sorry I'm so hetero, and I'm sorry I'm so stubborn

A good big one will always beat a good little one. Hollywood continually ignores this truth.

moonknight....smh.

and they say feminism is about equality😒

"They should have not beaten him". Nah

It is as simple as using ideology to be allowed to lash out one’s own sexist hatred. What feminism was supposed to fight.

Why do modern male characters suck? You answered your own question.

Just by seeing what yhey intend to do with the new Biancaneve you can understand why everything is breaking down. Woke ideology has corrupted the studio in its whole and now it's tearing it down. Everything they've built, everything we supported. Pulverized. Dust in the wind. I consider myself lucky to have seen these cinematic universes grow year by year, enjoying each film that was coming out day by day. The kids that are now growing with all this ideology put in their products are having a sad time imo.

The D&D movie is an exception from this complaint, sorry.

While i may agree with you on the situation of the what their doing with the characters of the marvel universe for the most part (she hulk was just awful)..... However the comparison of kenobi and luke...... Yes Reva was way too exaggerated, there's a flaw in the writing of her character, they could have done better for the audience to understand Reva's blind seek of vengeance, than feeling like "angry stupid"..... However, you are too concentrated to see kenobi from your expectation that he should be "the same old", and while understandably disappointed that he is not but again..... You are not getting that the jedi lost the war and are presecuted to no end, men are not forever "in their prime" there comes a time they get to their lowest point, and as disappointing as that maybe but it is something that does happen to a character, vader was probably thinking "did u jst run away from me bitch!"..... But! Kenobi is not the same as he once was, the Jedi order aint the same too, etc etc etc.... that's why there is so much raw emotion on the last scene btw kenobi n vader..... Until Reva just had to screw up in the end (that's disney trying to taint the scene).... As for what they did with Luke..... That was not only intentional horrendously bad writing but completely derailed from what i understand the books said how powerful Luke actually was (which we don't see an iota of it in the movie..... And seems to mysteriously be passed on Rey.... Hmmmm).

Here is my plan to fix it for you Its still a bundle of sticks but now They now wear leather muir caps cocked to the side

Whats the bet if they bring back Iron-man... they will make him an idiot as well for "comedy".

There are no stupid characters. Just stupid writers:-)

i have a conversation we need a new place to do films stop letting hollywood dictate whats a good film start supporting more 3rd world studios and creators and she hollywood u dont need them to create a story

DnD movie was good tho. I'm a fan of DnD so I might be a bit biased but I won't say it didn't have flaws. It was still good.

If you need to tear someone down to bring yourself up then your nothing but a sham

It's not poor writing. At this point, we know all of these are "made bad on purpose." It takes a long time to understand that. No, it's not about money.

I grew up with heroes of both genders, I only knew of two genders back then and barely knew there were two genders. Yet, there truly were strong female individuals in the world that I was highly aware of growing up. One that comes to mind right away is Golda Meir. I grew up in the US, but I knew that she was the Prime Minister of Israel. Oh, and no, I'm not Jewish. She just happened to be the first woman who I thought of as a hero. At least to me. I have always considered serving the US in the military to be a part of my duty. And so, at 17 I enlisted in the military and spent the next 15 years serving as a sniper. While serving I learned about the women who served the USSR as snipers while they were invaded by Germany in World War II. Lyudmila Pavlichenko was the most successful female sniper with 309 confirmed kills. That, to me, is a hero. These bloody Germans are invading her country, so she picks up her rifle and kit and takes care of business. Not less or more than a guy like me. Frankly, I find that as heroic as it is refreshing. I do know that the Israel Defense Force is made up of men and women. Together, they have one of the most difficult jobs handed to a modern military: keep Israel safe, while surrounded by, and infiltrated by her enemies. That's a daunting task carried out by the women and men of the IDF. I enjoyed this, as I've enjoyed all the rest I've seen. Great stuff!

And who owns both??? Disney

You can build females up without putting males down. Feminism is different from misandry.

Spot on. The correct answer is to create better stories and characters ourselves. Bahubali 2: in some cultures, male heroes are still going strong - almost hyperbolically. There should be a range of male characters just as of female. Not everybody needs to be totally heroic. But some should be. Men are responsible for going along with this, and not being better heroes ourselves.

burn Disney burn. 🔥

it's ok when war come in real life the Eilts will regreat 😂😂

It's a pendulum but one whose axis is the almighty dollar. Swings and roundabouts - sadly the axis doesn't value story, If there is a character whose story invests me, wants me to learn more, pits them against impossible struggles who fails yet rises against adversity and in the last moment has a realisation, we as the audience can empathise with, whether they win or lose and care. That's all I want - and a well--crafted story.

I don't fully agree. Fma: Brotherhood? Attack on titan? Donnie Yen's Ip-man? Live action Rurouni Kenshin movies? Mission impossible? Spy x family?

We went as a family (all adults now, mixed sexes) to see Dungeons and Dragons. At no point did we think the men were being emasculated. We all enjoyed the movie because it was fun, and the cast all seemed to be enjoying themselves. Hugh Grant was classic Hugh Grant. Bumbling and very British. I think this was a movie made to be fun, interspersed with lots close call action, and a little stupid.