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Why Modern Yu-Gi-Oh Sucks & Won't Get Better

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Emperor JohnKill3D

Emperor JohnKill3D

Жыл бұрын

I explain why modern Yugioh factually sucks and I don't see it getting any better.
• Why Modern Yugioh Suck... check out my follow up video to this topic.

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@ELGUAPOIV
@ELGUAPOIV Жыл бұрын
The game went from trying to outplay your opponent to preventing your opponent from playing. It's toxic.
@starbound100
@starbound100 Жыл бұрын
Objectively untrue. Do not confuse playground yugioh for actual competitive. Yata lock and goat control were a thing.
@NicheXCC
@NicheXCC 11 ай бұрын
​@@starbound100If that's the case, why there are so many tournament videos where 1 player wins the game in 1 turn? I'm constantly watching videos with people who play mostly older versions of the game because the new ones are boring to all hell to watch.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 11 ай бұрын
​@@NicheXCCturn count doesn't matter, what happens in that turn does 55 turns of mystic mine pass isn't interesting despite being longer
@Tonjiro100
@Tonjiro100 11 ай бұрын
Agreed brother!
@jfjfkdfi
@jfjfkdfi 11 ай бұрын
@@NicheXCC I don't know why you're watching ftk duels cuz those are the only decks that can end the game turn 1 but either way it's understandable why you find it boring since I'm assuming you don't play the game enough to understand what's happening
@silvertongue.242_99
@silvertongue.242_99 8 ай бұрын
I do love a duel with back and forth action. Being able to find the out from your opponent strategy. Where it was harder to predict your opponent's play.
@andrewrowland1989
@andrewrowland1989 Жыл бұрын
I would argue its not the Archetypes themselves that are the problem, but the BALANCE of their effects is what's killing the game. Too many cards do a million things with very little to no drawbacks. And what's worse, not every archetype is allowed to have the same amount of power as the newer cards. As a die-hard HERO player, we'll never get a Fusion monster that can floodgate my opponent, nor be able to Fusion-climb during my OPPONENT'S turn like Tearelement.
@williammclean6594
@williammclean6594 Жыл бұрын
I recently saw a video that says what's the point of playing an old deck when the new deck does the exact same thing but better the game has gotten out of control it feels like they need to introduce a hard reset and then just redo its rules giving it some sort of power cap
@ultronsigma2737
@ultronsigma2737 Жыл бұрын
Pot of desire draw 2 banish 10 from top deck, not still consider a draw back to u??
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
You will never get a fusion floodgate for HERO because THE DECK ALREADY HAS ONE IN DARK LAW
@andrewrowland1989
@andrewrowland1989 Жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 and my opponent has a million ways to deal with it. Dark Law is not as powerful as he used to be.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewrowland1989 Honestly, Dark Law was a mistake because now Konami can't even try to make good HEROes because of it
@Hynotama
@Hynotama 8 ай бұрын
Because they keep digging their grave with power creep for quick bucks, instead of fixing the game for true success.
@ancientarcs9331
@ancientarcs9331 Жыл бұрын
My friend got me to download Yugioh Master Duel on steam. After I learned the basics i went into a random duel. I placed 2 cards total, then this guy proceeded to take literally 10 minutes spamming card effects and summoning more and more things untill he has enough attack to 1 shot me. (this was the first turn)
@Pizzaguy975
@Pizzaguy975 9 ай бұрын
Oh boy this is how I felt I haven’t played yugioh completely or competitively in almost ten years I get master duel get some packs learning how some cards work I get to a casual duel and this guy takes 15 minutes for a turn having like 5 powerful synchro and link monsters on the field and I haven’t set a card except the one that the cards he sent to my graveyard had an effect where I could get a monster out its ridiculous. Makes me wanna play magic the gathering arena again cause I’m actually good at it and can beat players half the time instead of this random power creep can’t take a turn bullshit.
@mimivrc4148
@mimivrc4148 6 ай бұрын
this was my exact experience playing yugioh on master duels recently too. game is total trash now
@Chazz0010
@Chazz0010 5 ай бұрын
I playground duelist salty tears, people complaining about the modern meta decks that otk/lock you out But didnt realize back in the GOAT format there are decks like magical scientist FTK woudsnt even let you play on the first turn 😂
@mimivrc4148
@mimivrc4148 5 ай бұрын
@@Chazz0010 yes, most people would agree that the game doesn't just suck now, it has always been a terrible game
@beenblack90
@beenblack90 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Modern YGO is that it is too easy to summon multiple boss type monsters with little to no effort. There is essentially no cost or risk when summoning a 3-4k atk monster with effects that negate your opponents existence. I played 3 games on Master Duel and in all 3 games I lost after 30 minutes (3 or less turns total) due to my opponent summoning a full field of +3k atk/def monsters within 2 or less turns. Modern Day YuGiOh Be like: 1. Special summon into effect, effect triggers second special summon, 2. second special summon being triggered by effect triggers third special summon, 3. 3 cards on the field now becomes link summon, 4. because X monster moved to the graveyard (due to link summon) it triggers 5th special summon from the extra deck, 5. because Extra deck card was special summoned by card effect it triggers 6th special summon, 6. and all this would only be half of the fkn turn, meanwhile, a Normal Summon hasnt even been made yet. Fast forward 10 minutes from this point and its either finally your turn, or you've lost. YuGiOh: Hurry the fuck up and end your turn the card game!
@takenakahanbei5799
@takenakahanbei5799 Жыл бұрын
once per turn too
@Joeythroatgod
@Joeythroatgod 9 ай бұрын
Cry about it because all that means is ur shit at the game
@xpdtnz
@xpdtnz Жыл бұрын
I hate that the community is so hostile to people with these very reasonable sentiments. I've seen many people complaining about OTKs and 3-turn games, only to get blasted with people unironically saying "Sounds like you want the whole game to be normal monsters" or "just play better cards" (i.e. the same two tier zero decks everybody else is using) and a shocking amount of "just win the coin toss bro" like seriously? This isn't ever going to get better, or even accessible to people that don't want to sit for a half hour as their opponent special summons half their deck on the first turn. So hard to wrap my head around how people could enjoy something so ridiculous and flat out anti-game. Even more insane there seems to be no plans on even a rules toggle for matchmaking in Master Duel to remedy people's concerns despite the popularity it had before the average former player saw what the game has become and dipped out. Seriously, it would just be a checkbox for certain monster types, and everybody would be happy. Very likely takes little development strain, as most multiplayer games have had something like this since "No Oddjob"
@SirFailsalot91
@SirFailsalot91 Жыл бұрын
Sadly cooler heads aren't given attention in this, you're either a Yugi-Boomer who wants to play a slow slugfest of "higher number wins" or you're a Yugi-Zoomer who only cares about preventing your opponent from ever getting to play the game on turn 1. I say this as someone who's followed the game casually since day 1 and enjoyed seeing how things evolved and developed overtime, only for it to drive headlong off a cliff in the competitive scene at the advent of Links and how easy it became to just get rid of any "trapped" card that would otherwise just be sat useless on your field, with the plummet off of said cliff coming with the current generation of the game - I quit the game once the only way to make a decent deck was to implement an engine to churn out monsters, now you can sit for ten minutes while your opponent combos for days on *your* turn, and you'll immediately get hate from them if you play the one or two cards that are the only outs to their moves in order to let you do anything. I began with Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon, I dropped off early in GX and came back mid 5D's, I've stuck through Blackwings, I've stuck through HAT and Galaxy-Eyes, I've stuck through Dino-Rabbit, I've stuck through True Kings, I stuck around until the very end of the Vrains era when the @Ignister archetype debuted; I've been on this crazy train from the beginning for over twenty years, and I decided I'd only focus on the stuff that I find fun throughout it all, only to jump off now that everything has become damn near impossible for me to keep track of. I may not have won tournaments, I may not be some YCS big name contender, but I was happy with my decks I made to have fun, and now I decide to stick with my nostalgia and let everyone else enjoy what they prefer.
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist Жыл бұрын
Honestly, they act like not agreeing with them means that you don't understand the card game.
@captianbacon
@captianbacon Жыл бұрын
Like don't get me wrong as someone who loves elemental heros when you draw the nut and go second and get that sick nasty t1kill shot its kool but I want that to be like the over extended nut not what everyone just does to compete. Cause that was me with double summon and or like 2 polymerizations and just vomiting my whole hand into something big nasty
@Joeythroatgod
@Joeythroatgod 9 ай бұрын
@SirFailsalot91 the fact that you say you've stuck around for so long yet claim the current formats are worse than dragon ruler means you're delusional
@SabeNo-rh7mb
@SabeNo-rh7mb 9 ай бұрын
@@MrSilentProtagonist Agreed. Evberybody who says there's nothing wrong with this game is a bunch of idiots.
@KellysHeroes777
@KellysHeroes777 Жыл бұрын
The power creep is crazy. I play a lot of duel links and this is brought up constantly by new and returning players.
@captianbacon
@captianbacon Жыл бұрын
I really liked y1 duel links but even that after not playing for awhile and coming back it already morphed into such a unplayable cancer pile in compared to the fun shenanigans pool it was be4 my break.
@livetorek4723
@livetorek4723 Жыл бұрын
Balance doesnt equal fun
@captianbacon
@captianbacon Жыл бұрын
@LiveToRek it does though. That's how games function is balance.
@livetorek4723
@livetorek4723 Жыл бұрын
@@captianbacon then how was old school Yu-Gi-Oh less balanced but more fun?
@captianbacon
@captianbacon Жыл бұрын
@@livetorek4723 it wasn't broken. So it was more balanced
@useless1
@useless1 Жыл бұрын
Duels end in 2-3 turns nowadays, i wonder what kind of nonsense comes next lol
@SirFailsalot91
@SirFailsalot91 Жыл бұрын
If it ends on turn 3, it's too slow.
@ELGUAPOIV
@ELGUAPOIV Жыл бұрын
It's going to become a game where you customize your coin and whoever wins the flip wins the "duel".
@Chazz0010
@Chazz0010 5 ай бұрын
I playground duelist salty tears, people complaining about the modern meta decks that otk/lock you out But didnt realize back in the GOAT format there are decks like magical scientist FTK woudsnt even let you play on the first turn 😂
@cermark02
@cermark02 9 ай бұрын
yugioh nowadays most of its winning condition is based on whoever goes first wins...
@SabeNo-rh7mb
@SabeNo-rh7mb 9 ай бұрын
As explained in the video, even that ain't gonna save you every time when your opponent's deck is so busted he can just hijack your turn and spend up to fifteen minutes playing *Before* you even get to do anything. *Completely making the whole point of going first completely POINTLESS.*
@Chazz0010
@Chazz0010 5 ай бұрын
I playground duelist salty tears, people complaining about the modern meta decks that otk/lock you out But didnt realize back in the GOAT format there are decks like magical scientist FTK woudsnt even let you play on the first turn 😂
@namelessanonymous2913
@namelessanonymous2913 Жыл бұрын
I like how the Ishizu Tearlament is basically the antithesis to this video. Half the deck are retrains of anime cards from a character that lost to Kaiba. It doesn't archetype lock itself so it can run pretty much every tech under the sun. You can't anticipate the play because the play depends entirely on your mill luck. It's highly interactive to the point that a commentator couldn't keep up with the game state in an official tournament. Each game took so long that players were having issue with the time limit. It even hard lose to anti-graveyard strategies, which gravekeeper is pretty much the poster boy of. Yes, I'm talking about THE strongest deck in the game's history.
@thetwelfthdoctor9892
@thetwelfthdoctor9892 Жыл бұрын
Yu-gi-oh was my childhood. I used to play with my friends, there even was a town tournament. It was fun and kinda balanced. Out of nostalgia I tried playing Yu-gi-oh a couple of days ago. 3 games, 3 OTK on turn 2. No, thank you, I'm fine with my untainted memories...
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
Understandable
@aryados1520
@aryados1520 Жыл бұрын
As long we have obese people that got mobbed their whole life and need Yugioh to relieve their god complex it will keep going, Yugioh the only game where you try to force your opponent to not play the game.
@JohnLucPicard98
@JohnLucPicard98 Жыл бұрын
I hate this card game so god damn much
@eduardowhiteknight6110
@eduardowhiteknight6110 Жыл бұрын
Straight up I went to locals today and it was pretty humiliating losing to these fat people or people in general that won't beat my @ss in real life. It sucks that you have to invest in a lot of money on a deck to probably top a locals. On top of that alot of people at my locals anyways are douchebags ( they won't talk to you or let you chill with them if they don't deem you worthy) pretty pathetic.
@NN-oz6rr
@NN-oz6rr Жыл бұрын
Obese people are the worst. Imagine being fat. Imagine having bitch tits. Sad
@benign4823
@benign4823 Жыл бұрын
​@@eduardowhiteknight6110 Imagine losing to fat, lmao.
@alventuradelacruz522
@alventuradelacruz522 Жыл бұрын
I have some cards but only as reference (i'm an illustrator) bit playong this game is boring now
@silvertongue.242_99
@silvertongue.242_99 8 ай бұрын
Yesh the power creep in yugioh is too high they literally just add broken cards, broken archetypes and new summoning methods. They need to improve the set of monsters they hsve and the support needed
@johndoe413
@johndoe413 Ай бұрын
Could be an issue with instant gratification. Kids play Fortnite and the like and everything is so fast paced. Look at shows for kids now vs back in the 90’s everything is so much faster these days. Attention spans are diminishing and things need to be quicker to hold engagement.
@pucksheet4456
@pucksheet4456 8 ай бұрын
play yugioh do your chores or work comeback then close the game because your opponent still doing his turn
@marquisejohnson2770
@marquisejohnson2770 Жыл бұрын
Another thing that sucks that yugioh does is when they release archetypes they don’t release a full balanced deck all at once so you have to use cards that either aren’t apart of the deck or multiple copies (both of which I personally hate especially for an archetype deck) then release newer cards later on after you’ve already built a deck so now you have to redo it the only real archetype I like that seems balanced to me is the Fabled series but even Fabled Leviathan (a card which I do like) I feel is underpowered for a level 10 synchro
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
Konami seems to only care about the toxic part of the fan base and not the actual players who care
@cookiecookie88729
@cookiecookie88729 Жыл бұрын
Things that used to matter in yugioh : - defense points - trap cards - back and forth interaction - skill - fun
@NullyWard
@NullyWard Жыл бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't take skills anymore, Only way to win is to Spam effects over and over for like 10 minutes straight in one turn to summon fuck ton of cards to instantly win the game.
@chombersholmes8215
@chombersholmes8215 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@manchovieclemmons2380
@manchovieclemmons2380 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the skill aspect of, i drew into my limited to 1 cards before you did. The back and forth interaction of my 1850 attack monster beats your 1800 attack monster. Trap cards were never good with the exception of gravity bind, ultimate offering, mirror force, and magic jammer (any others that were good are still used today: skill drain, rivalry, compulsory, etc). Defense points mattered as much then as they do now, probably less actually, since flipping your opponents stuff face down prevents them from summoning with it in most decks now. You should have said flip effects. Those dont matter anymore really.
@manchovieclemmons2380
@manchovieclemmons2380 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl and what makes losing your board to a raigeki more interactive than being able to prevent that? The negate chains are literally interaction. You think you can make it to chain link 25 without interaction? In old yugioh, cards like imperial order and jinzo were staples. Cards that just stopped you opponent from doing anything against you at all. Yugioh has always been like this. The goal has always been to stop your opponent from doing anything to win. Nothing changed except you can actually negate your opponents cards through just about any floodgate now. Hand traps, quick plays, imperm, monster effects. Your extra deck acts as a psuedo sideboard. The game is far more interactive now than it was before. Its just faster, thats it.
@manchovieclemmons2380
@manchovieclemmons2380 Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosSwissroIl the reason i mentioned those floodgate is because there was no good way to counter them when they are played. You cant respond to jinzo, if they have lethal on board, you just die. No interaction allowed. How does one go about removing an imperial order in old yugioh? You cant MST it, your traps cant do it. The monsters that could do it either required tribute, or were flip effects, meaning if its not already set up, you got nothing. No interaction. The only reason we had 20 turn games wasnt because old yugioh was good, it was because we were children, and we were bad at the game. There were infinite comboes in yugioh from like the 3rd set onwards. There were otks. With the right set up, you could draw exodia by turn 3. There are ways for you to go back and play that format. You should try it like i did. You will find that the game you remember looks a bit different when people have figured out all its most exploitable parts.
@ryankoopacanada
@ryankoopacanada Ай бұрын
Or it’s even worse, someone spends 5-10 minutes summoning monsters/activating spells then they swing for ALL YOUR LIFE POINTS ON TURN ONE! Even I play modern YGO but even admit that out of hand…
@josephrandall4516
@josephrandall4516 Ай бұрын
You took the words out my mouth
@ryankoopacanada
@ryankoopacanada Ай бұрын
@@josephrandall4516 IKR? Like, this isn’t fun…even on the RARE occasions when I do it, I feel like a bully, I just feel hollow like i didn’t EARN the win. This OTK stuff NEEDS TO BE STOPPED!!!
@CuriousityFTW
@CuriousityFTW Жыл бұрын
I really want to love Yugioh, But... All I end up doing is watch people play solitaire before I get bored and surrender.
@SnowingTooth
@SnowingTooth 20 күн бұрын
Hot Take, I like duels that are a constant back and forth. Not a "Set up an entire board and prevent the opponent from playing the game" type of duel.
@sakuraflares7054
@sakuraflares7054 Жыл бұрын
Yep this game and Pokemon used to actually be fun. They encouraged CREATIVITY. Everyone in my neighborhood had a unique deck. Now on master duel every duel is the same 3 decks that negate everything and take 40 minutes a turn. I like to just play with friends but ive been trying to give master duel a chance. Probably gonna just get back on ygo pro though :|
@mimivrc4148
@mimivrc4148 6 ай бұрын
I replayed both pokemon and yugioh recently. yugioh is totally ruined now it seemed, but pokemon felt just like how it did when I was a kid honestly.
@TheEXGamemaster
@TheEXGamemaster Жыл бұрын
I agree, it's only getting worse
@crystalbry4741
@crystalbry4741 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Chazz0010
@Chazz0010 5 ай бұрын
I playground duelist salty tears, people complaining about the modern meta decks that otk/lock you out But didnt realize back in the GOAT format there are decks like magical scientist FTK woudsnt even let you play on the first turn 😂
@japan100100
@japan100100 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, the game is just miserable in higher levels of play. Most of the time it's usually an auto concede if your opponent starts going into his meta chain and you have no hand traps. Like what game do you play where you have to concede instantly on turn 1 from being completely overpowered 50% of the time(perhaps more)? And then another 25% is just decks that kill you in 2 turns rather than 1 turn. You don't even get to play with the deck you've made. There is no back and forth. I miss the suspense of face down defense cards, face down traps or spells that will turn the tide in an instant, turns where you are losing but you flip the table with your winning card,etc.
@Raymart6543
@Raymart6543 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. Nowadays, its just quick-effect activated which is negated with another quick-effect toppled by another quick-effect. Its basically a quick-effect meta and decks who own the most quick-effect cards (including graveyard activation quick-effects) is the one who'll rule the duel. Konami should've made quick effects exclusive to quick-play spells and even if monsters do have it, it should only be activated during battle phases so the players could setup, destroy and negate with only their backrows during main phases. To add more salt, most tiered decks out there uses graveyards like a part of their hand and for fucks sake, Konami doesn't even want to give new support cards on Gravekeepers or Fossil deck to prevent this from happening. Also, omni-negates and ftk decks are basically sins and shouldn't even exist.
@bdkf-ci9hg
@bdkf-ci9hg 10 ай бұрын
Cope
@japan100100
@japan100100 10 ай бұрын
Nobody really expects a valid argument for the state of the game now, so your comment really speaks for itself.@@bdkf-ci9hg
@kevinmentor6036
@kevinmentor6036 Жыл бұрын
The game has changed so much, it’s almost not even worth playing anymore. Konami really shot themselves in the foot.
@jpskillet2902
@jpskillet2902 Жыл бұрын
Today in MD, I set up a nice Dark Magician board. Didn’t stand a chance, I lost the next turn. At least I had fun summoning Dark Magician! What a cool looking card.
@EmraldWolf
@EmraldWolf Жыл бұрын
Every game in yugioh is decided within the first 2 or 3 sometimes even first turn its actually dumb...I want a game to last longer than 2 turns
@Romeo_of_Romelution
@Romeo_of_Romelution Жыл бұрын
Want interaction? Play hand traps.
@EmraldWolf
@EmraldWolf Жыл бұрын
@@Romeo_of_Romelution or just play a good card game.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
I mean...play Traptrix? Literally a control deck. Or Labrynth? Another control deck. Or dare I say Crystal Beast? OH JOY, ANOTHER CONTROL DECK
@EmraldWolf
@EmraldWolf Жыл бұрын
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 or just play a good card game.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 4 ай бұрын
The thing about modern yugioh what killed it for me are that the games are too 'fast' to the point where several card types and mechanics are unviable. Here are things that are barely useful in modern yugioh: - flip monsters - defense mode - trap cards: For a trap card to be useful it has to have such powerful effects that if it were a spell card, it would be too much for the format OR it has to have a instant activation condition like activating from hand - tribute summoning - non-Effect monsters with few exceptions - destruction and targeting effects
@600flo4
@600flo4 3 ай бұрын
I miss when I actually put defensive cards in my deck for jams, especially cards that had 2k defense it was so clutch holding off till I drew something useful
@Maximusls2400
@Maximusls2400 11 күн бұрын
Xyz’s and Synchros are fine, and pendulums are better because they were nerfed . Links are the main issue aside from hand traps and 1 card combos
@tiffyfemboy
@tiffyfemboy 12 күн бұрын
*What was the last time you mounted an deck that was more FUN to play instead of the most EFFECTIVE?* I loved playing traptrix, madolche, and discard with needle worm and bringing him back over and over... but nope, let me just prevent you from doing that... ON THE FIRST TURN WITH AN HAND TRAP!LIKE WTF????
@chombersholmes8215
@chombersholmes8215 Жыл бұрын
Was just playing MD and there are cards that can’t be destroyed by battle or effects… WHY??!! There was nothing I could do and he had like 5 cards at least 3000 power like the fuck man… AND his their cards had the ability to steal my cards and/or just send them to my graveyard for no reason!!! I read the cards and there was nothing stating they had those abilities. I really want to play but it’s impossible
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher Жыл бұрын
There's cards that can return to hand, banish, shuffle into the deck and send to the graveyard all of these are different than being destroyed by card effects
@ultronsigma2737
@ultronsigma2737 Жыл бұрын
Tell me What's that card name so i can explain it
@sdunned7842
@sdunned7842 Жыл бұрын
I just watched “top tier” gameplay, dude literally took 9 minutes on his first turn just summoning over and over again and by turn two it was like “I win.” And this is all top tier gameplay.. no more than 5 turns.. EVER..a game ending in 3 turns is normal, but everyone is aiming to win on turn 1.
@ducknitro6559
@ducknitro6559 3 ай бұрын
Also Goat format has a bunch of FTK decks with legit 50% chance to win. To the point where a lot of competitive players have just agreed not to play it.
@Fallen_Blade
@Fallen_Blade 7 ай бұрын
I honestly disliked synchro and XYZ at first when I got back into the game around 2012 from 2006 but I realized it wasn’t so bad cause cards weren’t crazy, simple effects for situations and the risk to get them out was still great for they weren’t devastating quick effects that could maintain their presence on either turn. Also better the effect, lower the attack/defense so often could get ran over, it was balanced. Now it’s just big attack, big immunity, big nonsense and that’s where balance was thrown out the window
@zaktilton1680
@zaktilton1680 8 ай бұрын
Things needed to stop with XYZ summoning. Pendulum and Link are just too much. It's saturated with too many ways to summon monsters, too many broken monsters with excessive effects, We need some more vanilla monsters you can just summon and attack/defend with without effects we need to analyze and keep track of. Plus if you have an opponent who refuses to let you do anything at all its pretty much as fun as watching paint dry. The Uber amount of Negation is also an important factor too. Why should I waste my time playing a game where my opponent won't let me even hit his life once cause all my moves are negated but nothing I do stops him. No at that point, I am done this isn't even a game at this point anymore.
@CommanderM117
@CommanderM117 7 ай бұрын
agreed and only reason i have negates in the First place is becouse all these Archetype decks trying to prevent me from playing or having fun.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 7 ай бұрын
Bro's complaining about pendulums when they haven't been meta in years 💀 Bro doesn't even realize that there's support cards for normal monsters and that the support cards are pendulum 💀 (no joke search up dragoons of Draconia) Bro doesn't realize most of the current top decks don't use negates 💀
@Arphenonn
@Arphenonn 10 ай бұрын
"Modern" Yu-gi-oh sucks. I agree with you bro.
@gentlefistinfinity9780
@gentlefistinfinity9780 7 ай бұрын
Man that line where you said "you choose death after your first turn," had me cracking up. That is so true because it is indicative of the modern game. You also hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that vintage Yugioh had more tension. That is because you had to be so careful about how you used your resources.
@Zestara
@Zestara Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Modern ygo is annoying af. If your opponent goes first, he is able to combo 5 negates onto the field, end his turn and that's it. You lose. If you go first, your opponent negates everything, even your own surrender, with some stupid hand traps. I played Master Duel for over a year now and it's SO fucking frustrating. You don't even get enough free gems to compensate for all the hate you feel. Sorry for bad english, I am from Germany. Have a good day.
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
It's all good man, its sad that fanboys will try to constantly attack me in the comments because i exposed issues with the game.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 11 ай бұрын
Master duel is a bo1 format, actual yugioh is bo3 It's not comparable, yugioh was designed for a bo3 format
@elarles2511
@elarles2511 11 ай бұрын
Its because master duels format sucks comparing master duel where tomahak is legal to tcg where harp is still banned is stupid
@SweetLeavesXbox1
@SweetLeavesXbox1 11 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, if you vsed something broken af... you don't want a bo3 just to L again 😂😂😂 I get to abt mid plat in MD then things go to shít. Bad thing is, about 80% of my duels to get to that point.... all DC or players run the clock out hoping I quit or lose connection... so its not enjoyable no matter what rank I am 😂 worst part about yugioh IMO, massive learning curve. Ever tried to teach some1 to duel with today's standard??? 😂 not only do u need to perfect your strats, u gatta learn what to negate and how to counter OP AF builds. No1 feels great abt vsing combo build and clueless to what's going on or what the end goal is.... if u havnt played this crap in a few years... I wouldnt advice returning for that fact.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 11 ай бұрын
@@SweetLeavesXbox1yeah I was taught how to play by a friend nearly 3 years ago, during a time when we had way more combo non linear decks than today, it's really not that difficult though as long as you can read and have a better attention span than a goldfish, you need to invest time into any hobby
@pandoranbias1622
@pandoranbias1622 Жыл бұрын
I think Yugioh is a fundamentally broken game and always has been broken, it's just now because of the internet, EVERYBODY is playing meta decks
@keepinitreal8907
@keepinitreal8907 9 ай бұрын
Some more ammo for you. *This shit literally got so bad, even the anime team got sick of it.* Yeah, when Vrains came out and introduced Links, the writing team thought it was so brokenly bad, they ultimately decided to just *Get rid of the entire Extra Deck mechanic* for the next series and just go back to basics. Because it was becoming too hard for them to write realistic duels that didn't end with someone getting stomped after a few turns. *You heard me.* The game had spiraled so far out of control, the producers had to do a soft reboot for the next series just to make things believable again. That should tell you something.
@SabeNo-rh7mb
@SabeNo-rh7mb 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I heard of that. Soulburner, one of the heroes, was a big example of this. The guy in charge of scripting duels for Vrains went on record to say he had the *Hardest* time putting Soulburner in actual losing scenarios because his deck was just THAT good. And to say nothing of Revolver and his busted as hell Borrel Dragons.
@OliverCarriere
@OliverCarriere 8 ай бұрын
Didint know that its crazy
@Pikaman20008
@Pikaman20008 4 ай бұрын
Source?
@erebusros7807
@erebusros7807 Жыл бұрын
Personally it's the infinite negates people can get that sucks.
@FullUhFools
@FullUhFools Жыл бұрын
The entire game is toxic. But it's Konami that's the problem, because they made it that way. The modern decks take a literal dump on any older deck, so those older cards. Half of the 10,000+ cards are complete garbage and it's disappointing. In a good game all cards have a purpose. Think of games like Uno. I love Uno.
@andrewrowland1989
@andrewrowland1989 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t blame Konami. Konami just distributes the game. It’s Studio Dice that’s the real problem. They develop the cards and all that shit. Studio Dice needs to stop making cards that do a million things and have little to no drawback. Hard once per turns is not enough anymore. I propose that Konami introduce a new rule in Master Rule that each player can only negate 1 card of each type (monster, spell and trap) per turn.
@FullUhFools
@FullUhFools Жыл бұрын
@@andrewrowland1989I agree. Something needs to change before it's too late. The new Photon Hypernova cards some look like damn entire paragraphs. Like I need a degree in Yu gi just to understand how these decks work now. The modern game has become a bit too complex. I want to relax and play a game but sometimes I feel like a damn Physicist trying to keep up with the Meta. Then Konami turns around and bans half of the broken deck they just released a few banlists later which is Tear. Pretty typical though I guess from them. Just sucks the old school cards could be recycled into toilet paper and no one would care. 😂
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
@@FullUhFools The reason Tear got hit so fast is because the deck was literally Tier 0, like it had no contender once the Ishizu support came out
@Kinggodzilla16
@Kinggodzilla16 6 ай бұрын
Link and Pendulum killed it for me.
@TheRecklessMetalhead
@TheRecklessMetalhead 3 ай бұрын
I still don't freaking understand how Pendulum works.
@charlethemagne5466
@charlethemagne5466 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRecklessMetalhead Don't worry you just saved yourself a lot of effort, the moment i learned pedulums and how to use them in decks i quit playing yugioh, now i only have the odd casual duel with a friend and we ban links, pendulums and synchros if we feel like it. Makes the game atleast resemble yugioh and not the abomination its become.
@easymixedsignals534
@easymixedsignals534 7 ай бұрын
they gotta get rid of those big wall of texts. im having heart attacks
@Kureiji-jy3cb
@Kureiji-jy3cb 6 ай бұрын
Just read the cards bro it's not that hard
@easymixedsignals534
@easymixedsignals534 6 ай бұрын
@@Kureiji-jy3cb im not reading and memorizing like every 2-5 minutes in sequence. they should of done 1-2 effects. avoid the whole wall text and give people a chance to play than wait for an otk
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming 6 ай бұрын
People who say it’s not that hard, don’t even read the cards themselves and have to read it themselves and if they enjoy that well they are a liar 😂
@kevinmorad2563
@kevinmorad2563 6 ай бұрын
​@Kureiji-jy3cb i read the cards and its aggrivating your statement is invalid its as if i dont care to play or read yet want some new stuff from Konami yugioh is garbage its fun to play casually sometimes but always lose 80% players are humpback whales thats why.
@easymixedsignals534
@easymixedsignals534 6 ай бұрын
@@kevinmorad2563 yeah it fustrating to stop the match and keep on reading the cards like most of the times. wish this card games is a bit more simple casual. support cards like kuriboh or up to 2000 atk- should have like 1-2 effects. ace cards like yugi's dark magician or up to 3000 atk can have 2 effects. boss monsters like yusei's shooting star 3000-4000atk can have 3 effects god cards or divine wicked beast or nordic all gods 4000+ attack up should hold about 4-5 effects. any of these effects can be a down side depending on how good the effects is. just t0 balance it out. spell and traps should hold like 1-3 effects. 1-3 sentences. I wouldnt give it 4 effects, that be like god card realm.
@darkherosolidox
@darkherosolidox Жыл бұрын
Bro, sync aren't a problem, nor they were never a problem. The power kreep honestly didn't become a problem pass 5ds.
@DarkSpiritShleah
@DarkSpiritShleah 6 ай бұрын
Anyone feel like the game just plays itself?
@tile2136
@tile2136 Ай бұрын
This guy is 200% correct heroes were last good cards they came out
@hecatrice2064
@hecatrice2064 2 ай бұрын
Xyz era was peak. Many people returned to the game around 2013 when they came out (at least at my locals). Pendulums are indifferent and Links were a mistake that serve no purpose.
@Blueniter
@Blueniter Ай бұрын
XYZ and Synchro was the peak for me but now with the LINK and Hand Traps I'm getting mad at the meta decks.
@azurnal7573
@azurnal7573 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Competitive yugioh was always like this. Old yugioh meta is arguably more toxic and uninteractive. Ftks and handloops were everywhere and you have no way of interrupting them on the first turn. If you're talking about casual yugioh then it hasn't changed. You can still play the game casually with friends with old school decks, but you can't expect to beat the modern meta with power crept cards. I would say today's meta is way more skill intensive than the past. There's more cards and effects to keep track of, and choosing when to use your interruptions can completely change the duel.
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
If I didn’t know what I was talking about, I wouldn’t have made the video.
@azurnal7573
@azurnal7573 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnKill3DGaming A lot of people make videos about subjects they don't fully grasp. You're no different. Don't bother responding if you don't have any meaningful arguments. All you do in this comment section is insulting people for being "fanboys" or saying that someone is a kid just because they disagree with your opinion. You ask people to give actual arguments yet you don't provide any in your responses.
@laskouide_newragingbulls
@laskouide_newragingbulls Жыл бұрын
still someone who defends yu gi oh blindly, apart from the djin locks or other pp or other yata garasu which were quickly settled due to a banlist, the old meta games were diversified and fun and less cancer, today you have maxx c,ash and Infinite Impermanence for the hands traps, the ftk are common currency, the decks are combinations of 2 to 5 archetypes, and to play casual with decks like necroz, raidraptor or antic gears, you have to put at least 8 cards that are not in the deck without counting traps like hand traps. for example salamangreat, you have to play flame buffelo or Infinite Impermanence or play it with another archetype, which destroys the nature of the deck (well it was pretty much the case before, but well I had the inpresion of playing a salamangreat deck and the combinations of archetypes were much less common and it was funny to see sometimes) for casuals have is condemned to play with the same people or unclassified on master duel for example, which is not fun after a while. and I also think that you find it normal that there are more ftk today, and you find it normal that I got ftk without even being able to play a card where I got locked out of all the possibilities of playing monsters, magic or traps so I was doomed. (and its conbos are banned only after 6 months or so or are barely nerfed so...) I think you forgive konami too much for their errors which will be lethal for yu gi oh in the future... and excuse me for the english
@azurnal7573
@azurnal7573 Жыл бұрын
@@laskouide_newragingbulls I see your point. Decks now have to play at least 8 cards that are outside of the archetype because of generic hand traps and boss monsters. Cards like baronne and accesscode were definitely a mistake. I think hand traps are good for the game though, they stop players going first from making unstoppable boards or doing ftks. I feel like a lot of people are ignoring the flaws of old yugioh, because decks were definitely not diverse back then. Chaos emperor and other staples like mirror force and raigeki were literally ran in every deck. A lot of duels back then were completely based on luck because the optimal play each turn was extremely easy to see, yet yugiboomers seems to think that new yugioh requires no skill when in reality it's the most skill dependent the game has ever been. People say archetypes ruined yugioh yet in reality it's what made deck building actually diverse. Back then every deck were just good stuff decks consisting of the most powerful staples of the format. Nowadays there's actually some variance, you can combine archetypes together and create a lot of interesting combos with the large amount of cards. Of course it's annoying when people on ladder plays the same decks over and over again but that's how every competitive game works, people play what's best to get easy wins. I'm not saying new yugioh is perfect but I just disagree when people say yugioh is "ruined" when it's literally like this before. I feel like people are confusing old yugioh with playground yugioh, because the amount of tier 0 formats in competitive old yugioh were ridiculous. If you want to play playground yugioh today, it's absolutely possible. The problem is that the majority of people are comparing playground yugioh to competitive yugioh, and they expect to win against competitive decks with whatever deck they make.
@azurnal7573
@azurnal7573 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnKill3DGaming I normally don't care when people shit on modern yugioh, but it's a problem when you're making a video on this and misleading literally thousands of people and turning off new players from playing the game.
@lonewolfzzz
@lonewolfzzz Жыл бұрын
so true, new yu-gi-oh is not even fun anymore...
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
The other issue is that fans have become so bias that you can’t criticize the game without fanboys defending it blindly. Each time they make a point it’s from a bias perspective and they resort to the whole skill issue like that’s an argument. Konami really fosters this toxic part of the fandom since they only care for those with blind devotion to the game. Real fans with criticize something because they love it and want it to get better. These loud fanboys don’t understand that which is why their arguments always fall flat.
@johntonfool5288
@johntonfool5288 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnKill3DGaming Dude every yugioh player knows the game has problems no one disagrees with that. The problem is your video in particular saying that yugioh is going to "die" when you provided horrible arguments to back that up. If u wanna see how bad your arguments are go look at blooby comment from a month ago he describes in detail how shit your arguments are. You're just a dick saying that we blindly defend this game when the reality is we're countering the dumb arguments u made in your video.
@QuarianGuy
@QuarianGuy 9 ай бұрын
I will never understand how people find a 5 minute game where they win by their second turn fun. What made games like Tag Force fun for me was the constant back and forth. Sure a curbstomp here and there is fun but I never went for meta decks because that just sucks the fun out of the game in the long run for me. With that said, no meta deck back in the day came close to a regular competitive modern deck today when it comes to being anti-fun.
@bdkf-ci9hg
@bdkf-ci9hg 9 ай бұрын
Because all of that back and forth in concentrated in 3 turns its so fast and so intense and long at the same time thats why most matches last 40 mins + most time is spent thinking about interactions and there is back and forth on turn 1 because you can interrupt your opponent on turn 1 with handtraps and he has to change his gameplan and find a way to still get to his end board Ppl find this game fun because its a strategic game that encourages critical thinking but you'll only get that if you stuck around and got good at it thats why on a surface level its not as appealing And thats apparent especially in the playerbase ygo has a hard time bringing new players but it is very good and retaining and keeping them .
@hel9157
@hel9157 9 ай бұрын
@@bdkf-ci9hg my first time playing ygo was the release of master duel and prior to that I don't know anything about it beside the anime. I gotta say after looking up old playstyle and tournaments, modern ygo is %100 better and it's not up to debate. There's so many archetypes and options that are viable nowadays compared to the pre Extra deck era who uses pretty much the same cards and the toxic strats are way more frustrating due to the combination of the lack of options to fight them and their actual disgustingly overpowered stat stick and seemingly unfair effects compared to the other cards at that time. Also people be like "hurr durr every turn lasted 10 minutes, literally boring game" when that 10 minutes can be full of back and forth with your opponent during the same turn. Meanwhile old school ygo would just summon 1, set cards and pass for 20 turns straight until you draw a bigger monster or a board breaking trap/spell, now that's what I call BORING.
@bdkf-ci9hg
@bdkf-ci9hg 9 ай бұрын
@@hel9157 based take
@Monhamd1000
@Monhamd1000 10 ай бұрын
This aged well to this day.
@martin22336
@martin22336 Жыл бұрын
Well the game is dead as of 2022 no one wants to pay hundreds of thousands to just play a deck with a good win rate. Its essentially pay to win. Depending on how old you are. You will not want to touch this game. Its too complicated for anyone to get into. Konami took an IP and made it a cash cow. You cant milk a cow for 20 years. The people who were born after 2002 are already out of the market for Konami because they dont want to touch this pos game.
@martin22336
@martin22336 Жыл бұрын
On top of this. Who is gonna brag about having over priced pieces of card board. Most people now a day invest in crypto or in the stock market. Literally investing in gold has more value than yugioh cards. The people who invested in yugioh cards are really out of touch with reality no one wants to pay 400 for one broken card just for it to get banned down the line.
@cookiecookie88729
@cookiecookie88729 Жыл бұрын
Well, just another IP destroyed by Konami. They suicided Pro Evolution Soccer last year.
@th3ra83
@th3ra83 Жыл бұрын
​@@martin22336 I mean tbh if you are gonna investing then you will invest to older OG Cards like GBI God Cards or Blue Eyes of LoB. Other than that yeah...... Prepare to be powercrept.
@tomsnowden6201
@tomsnowden6201 Жыл бұрын
I'm that guy who took a break for 10 years, dealt with a couple 10 minute first round games and I was done.
@kungfuchief
@kungfuchief Жыл бұрын
Yugiboomer lol
@maximoebenizer1919
@maximoebenizer1919 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Duel Links was their best way of "fixing" modern YGO. Being restricted to 3 main monster slots and 1 extra zone will stop a lot of negation spam once the game gets the most recent cards. It just sucks that DL doesn't have the MD gacha system, which is less predatory.
@andrewrowland1989
@andrewrowland1989 Жыл бұрын
It stops negation spams bc they never allowed omni-negates into the game to begin with. DragonLink is never gonna be at full power bc all their Omni-negates will never get released.
@xSerenaYGO
@xSerenaYGO Жыл бұрын
@@andrewrowland1989 oh how do we tell him, theres multiple omni negates in duel links lmao with the most famous one being salamangreat roar.
@zyairrbissoon
@zyairrbissoon 9 ай бұрын
The problem isn’t all archetypes or card types after gx. The problem is the strategies they use most to stop their opponent from playing. Take two xyz archetyps Kashtira and ghostrick, one just stops you from playing the other turns your cards facedown for one turn to do direct attacks but none of their monsters go above 2000 atl
@DragonmasterSK
@DragonmasterSK 6 ай бұрын
I miss the combos of old ... Me: "I activate my Tribute to the doomed to destroy your Monster by discarding my Summoned Skull. Next, I'll activate my Premature Burial magic card. Now by paying 800 Life points and I bring back my mighty servant. But that's not all ... " Opponent: 0.O! Me: "I activate Megamorph .. giving my monster 2500 more attack for a total of 5,000. Summoned Skull... Lightning Strike!!! / Now I set a card and end my turn"
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming 6 ай бұрын
Sounds good 👍
@charlethemagne5466
@charlethemagne5466 3 ай бұрын
Peak yugioh right there, especially because combos didnt happen constantly like they do these days.
@charlethemagne5466
@charlethemagne5466 3 ай бұрын
Modern yugioh is legit ass, it's so convoluted and you literally sit there for 8 minutes while your opponent does a combo and you lose the game basically on first turn. I would take duel monsters over pendulum garbage any day.
@Anthony-ku2bb
@Anthony-ku2bb 11 ай бұрын
I agree with this video about Yu-Gi-Oh sucks now. I left playing Yu-Gi-Oh years ago around 2005. I started a few months ago trying to get back into playing Yu-Gi-Oh because it was my favorite game during my teenager years. Yu-Gi-Oh became so complicated with losing without even being able to play a single card in my hand or deck. I honestly felt overwhelmed and helpless. I don't mind losing, but at least let me play out my deck before I lose. There are cards now that lock out your zones and your deck from being able to be used. I ended up just getting a headache now when I play Yu-Gi-Oh because I felt so confused on what the heck was happening on all of these crazy condos with endless special summoning from my opponents hand and deck. I miss Yu-Gi-Oh for what it used to be when it was fair, simple, and fun. It's not enjoyable playing Yu-Gi-Oh anymore like it was in the past.
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming 11 ай бұрын
I hear you man
@elarles2511
@elarles2511 11 ай бұрын
Bruh todays end boards are noir pass, arise heart pass, set 5 pass or borreload savage+hieratic seals wtf are you talking about? And they take less than 2 minutes except by dragons they take aroune 5
@Darkkefka
@Darkkefka 7 ай бұрын
Here’s my theory. It’s all about money. You see, there was once a time where they try to make the games simple and fun again. You might’ve heard of these guys? The elements heroes? When they first came out they really sucked and only kids play them because of the anime. Unfortunately that wasn’t making them any money. So they started printing super busted cards again and now all of a sudden Whales got back into the game started spending like crazy. The game has gotten to the point where if a card sucks we won’t play it, and that’s not gonna make them any money. So they create these super powerful cards and ban the old ones to force you into buying them. This cycle repeats endlessly, and this is why I quit playing this fucking game.
@tulpartengri6584
@tulpartengri6584 7 ай бұрын
probably the best decision in your life. this game went to a wrong direction. now its everything about making 20 special summons in your first turn to get a board full of strong monsters and dozens of negates. Good luck handling that if you dont have any 1 or two handtraps like Ash, Maxx C, or Impermanence in your first turn. If you dont follow the meta and put the same cards you are going to get stomped. Many of the old cards arent played anymore because they are so bad in comparison to the new cards. And even if they are played, they stand absoluletly no chance against the meta decks. That alone should be red flag that the power cap is completly out of control. Nobody, for example, plays non effect monsters anymore. Why is normal summoning restricted to 1 per turn while there is no limit for special summoning? this is so stupid. Special summoning now is much more common than normal summoning. It all comes down to a one turn kill. In most cases you dont even survive turn 2 anymore if your opponent summoned a full board of monsters and 10 negates. All konami had to do was to limit special summoning to 1 each turn just as normal summoning is limited to 1. Old yugioh had much more class. it was more like chess. you make a move and your opponent makes a move. Now I have to wait 5 minutes until my opponent is finsihed doing his special summoning shitfest. And in most cases the game goes to round 5 maximum. Limitting special summons to 1 would be the first good step. But knowing konami they will ruin it even more. Just stop playing this joke of a game.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 7 ай бұрын
"theory" Buddy, that's the truth. Konami was always in it for the money, there's a reason why some people call them "Komoney".
@felipenascimento1964
@felipenascimento1964 2 ай бұрын
I'm only here because I found out about master duel and I went to play it. Man, I was so excited! Edited my starter deck a little bit and started dueling. BRO, WTF?? 1 turn, ppl making a play that would take forever, fusioning a monster on top of the other, and pulling a monster with 3000 ATK, with so many effects... like what the actual fuck? I'm back playing TAG Force on PSP emulator.
@Rugratboy
@Rugratboy 2 ай бұрын
Just had a game when I'm new to master duel Second turn I had 3 small creatures out. They had a card which they sent to graveyard that summoned a monster that has a special effect that let it reach 5800 attack, while also setting every creature I had to defense mode. Which my cards can't exactly survive in, and proceeded to summon two extra 3k attack monsters. It's a great experience twiddling your thumbs as your opponent suddenly is 3x your strength and can to some extent control your monster
@MurasakiNoItami
@MurasakiNoItami 2 ай бұрын
Skill issue, git gud and stop crying already​@@Rugratboy
@Some_Idiot_Online
@Some_Idiot_Online 10 ай бұрын
i think synchros and XYZs were fine. when they added shit that changed the field they started fucking up big time. then just constant power creep of course.
@jamal3298
@jamal3298 Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean. I miss the days where you would set 1 or 2 spells/1 monster and end your turn. Now, I see local tourneys on youtube take 5-10 minutes for 1 turn. I feel old.
@aaronflores21af
@aaronflores21af Жыл бұрын
Seriously I hate that aswell, I miss the simplicity
@Daniel-dl7ft
@Daniel-dl7ft Жыл бұрын
​@@aaronflores21afYu-Gi-Oh was never simple what are you on about?
@TheNewblade1
@TheNewblade1 Жыл бұрын
Bro said "my deck is fair, I just floodgate ppl out the game if they don't have the spell trap removal to remove Necrovalley, which they probably won't cause there decks are teched for 6-7 negate boards"
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
?
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnKill3DGaming Simply put, running Necrovalley invalidates a lot of your complaints
@dinolover
@dinolover Жыл бұрын
It's a field spell clown. It has no self defense and is easily destructible, stop crying that it hardcaps your tryhard deck by removing your cheap ass graveyard effects.
@JustLikeTheSimulations
@JustLikeTheSimulations Жыл бұрын
7 months late but I grew up with the original series & the old school cards. My brother taught me when I was 6. I returned to the game through Master Duel, and oh god, it’s ridiculous. People have no attention spans, they can’t handle an OG duel that takes time & skill. I’m not even trying to talk crap but WOW you can take 10 minutes during your OPPONENTS turn and summon tons of cards. You can negate every effect. You can just not allow your opponents to do anything. It’s changed so much. The power creep is stupid. You just can’t use old cards anymore.
@Joeythroatgod
@Joeythroatgod Жыл бұрын
Exactly it's called a META. This is a competitive game what do u expect
@annoyedPikachu
@annoyedPikachu Жыл бұрын
@@Joeythroatgod How does it feel to be such a loser, defending this slowly dying, shitty card game. There's a reason most people prefer Magic the Gathering despite its own major flaws. The old card game was like a well planned game of chess, where you had to constantly react to yours and your opponents plays. Now its just not allowing someone to play at all or FTK/OTK them. There were barely any "Meta" decks that would consistently be able to pull this off, and were therefore unused for the most part, or dealt with by severely limiting or banning key cards in that strategy very quickly. Nowadays, if your deck isn't built to FTK/OTK people, you've built your deck incorrectly. Tell me how that's fun for anyone.
@JustLikeTheSimulations
@JustLikeTheSimulations Жыл бұрын
@@Joeythroatgod i expect to be able to play the game, not get locked out of making any moves if I don’t use very specific cards. It used to be competitive & fun, now it’s just silly. You either use the stupid meta decks or you don’t get to play. That’s a problem.
@Joeythroatgod
@Joeythroatgod Жыл бұрын
@@JustLikeTheSimulations excuse me but it's still highly competitive and extremely fun if u play the game how it is meant to be played and besides of course u can't use old cards in a 20+ year old card game u can't expect it to be the same as when u were normal summoning blue eyes with no tribute and besides if u wanna do that go play Goat format dingus
@lit_wick
@lit_wick 2 ай бұрын
Konami needs to restart. They need to restart with set rotation in mind. I'm not saying start at LOB, I'm saying figure out what yugiohs game design philosophy is these days, and print a set that supports that. Have the cards exit out every three or so years and boom. A balancable game. Konami could even provide prizes for topping events to encourage people swap to this new spin off. Swap the name from yugioh trading Card game, to yugioh competitive card game.
@I_see_provy
@I_see_provy 12 күн бұрын
LOB? I'm a mtg player so Idk what that is
@lit_wick
@lit_wick 12 күн бұрын
@@I_see_provy LOB is yugiohs Alpha set basically. It's the first set of cards.
@ZoroanVR
@ZoroanVR 3 ай бұрын
It went from “I have a 2500 beater >:)” To “I have 15 negates you can’t summon your turn you can’t activate spells and you have no cards in your hand thanks to my effects” Or also (1st turn) “I use the effect of my I now assemble all five pieces of exodia”
@madhattermaker622
@madhattermaker622 3 ай бұрын
As a semi maybe half competative Yu Gi Oh player, I can confirm. And I didn't really wanna become a competative Yu Gi Oh Player initially but that's what I had to become in order to stand a chance and frankly I think the game is better if you're casual or just Semi competative. Some combo's to get out big monsters with only ONE negate for an entire turn... maybe 2 negates for a turn feels fine. But if you pull a combo that straight up prevents your opponent from playing where there is no back and forth then I think the person who did said combo needs to rethink their lives.
@Tonyvld
@Tonyvld 3 ай бұрын
@@madhattermaker622 Agreed. Too bad so many people are used to the whole "30 combo, your whole field is locked, hand destroyed, and I have 25 monsters on my side of the field with 80,000 attack each, and they all have the effect of allowing me to attack on the first turn of the duel. I attack for game." and *somehow* they actually like it. Listen, I get it in some ways, like back in the day when you drew that one card that let you pull off an epic combo and make on helluva comeback, it felt good. But now, it's just "Either have a 923 combo deck that auto-plays from turn one and is an insta-win and cancels everything or enjoy losing." like, it just sucked all the fun out of the game. Since that's where the fun was. In the strategy. Like "Oh hey, your strongest monster just got destroyed. What are ya gonna do?" and you strategize and plan your way out of it. Or if your opponent was in the same boat, it's fun to see how the plan their way around and out of that situation.
@madhattermaker622
@madhattermaker622 3 ай бұрын
​@@Tonyvld Yeah, there's some weird sense of eurphoria when you start pulling off cool combo's and slamming down a powerful monster like a Yu Gi Oh Card ninja. I used to play Stardust decks back in the day and in order to stand a chance against competative players I too had to be a negator sadly but I can't deny that it was fun to just pull a cool combo. Now though I've realised that this just isn't the way I wanna play but I also don't wanna abandon all the combo stuff because I did enjoy it so I've sort of decided to stick to Cyber Dragons. Now I've got 3 combo's I can do depending on my starting hand as well as a few inbetweens all of which are not game breaking. Combo 1: If I have overload fusion and the other cards can get out Cyberdark end dragon which is the strongest boss fusion monster I have. Combo 2: If I have machine duplication I can get out Infinity as well as some others depending on what I have. Combo 3: if I draw Clockwork night I can play it and use my opponent's monsters as materials for Chimeratech Fortress dragon which isn't an activated effect so they can't negate it but Fortress dragon isn't immune to effects so I say it's fairly balanced. Sometimes if the stars allign and my hand is too good I can get out Cyberdark End dragon, Cyber Dragon infinity and Cyber Dragon nova on turn 1. If I try really hard to keep them all alive then turn 2 I can rank up my nova into my 2nd infinity but this is rare and rightfully so since we're talking 2 negators that can turn your attack position monsters into it's material. Franky I enjoy playing this way as it's not competatively viable but it really feels fun to work with what you got.
@Tonyvld
@Tonyvld 3 ай бұрын
@@madhattermaker622 I get that man. It's always an awesome feeling to get off a combo that saved your ass from a fire and turns the duel around. It really is. But the modern yugioh has gotten out of hand. Now it's literally "If you don't have one or more handtraps and Ash blossoms in your hand on turn 1, I win" which isn't how it should be.
@madhattermaker622
@madhattermaker622 3 ай бұрын
@@Tonyvld My solution is... negates should have a price. maybe pay 1000 to 2000 life points to do which will really make your opponent consider IF the negate is truly worth it. May not be a good one but it's a start!
@madhattermaker622
@madhattermaker622 3 ай бұрын
I'm like 50 50 on the whole thing. I'm cool with combo's and all that but some combo's can take what feels like an eternity. When your opponent sets up a dozen negates you may as well just quit unless you've got Ra Sphere mode or a kaiju and something to get past those negates.
@EmraldWolf
@EmraldWolf Жыл бұрын
I got literally first turn game locked by someone...they went first and summoned they're most op card that made it so I can't destroy it (unaffected by card affects) and it had 5300 attack and he had cards in hand that prevented me from summoning anything or playing anything...I may as well not even been there
@Lucy5456b
@Lucy5456b Жыл бұрын
Acesscode (based on Information) is only unefected when it does something and hand traps exist you need to know that to play complain about combos then you complain about cards stopping them
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
Lemme guess, Accesscode + floodgates. Okay, I wanna know who is the genius that made that stupid combo
@Bitstacker
@Bitstacker 8 ай бұрын
The problem is once synchros and tuners came in. Its just mass summon the whole field in one turn. If your not meta your toast. Forget everything you used to know..
@Zenbon111
@Zenbon111 8 ай бұрын
Thats not the problem. Summoning or even playing without being interrupted or locked out of the game is a blessing
@tulpartengri6584
@tulpartengri6584 7 ай бұрын
make special summonings be limitted to 1 just like normal summoning is limitted to 1.
@kaprikorn16188
@kaprikorn16188 Жыл бұрын
I'm soon turning 36 years old and grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh! I collected and loved the manga and owned some of the classic starter decks. Back then, I didn't have anyone to play with, so Yu-Gi-Oh! faded away for me. It wasn't until 2017 that I got back into the game and was surprised by the expanded rules... and even more surprised that most of the starter packs sold by Konami were mostly rubbish, and you had to spend a fortune on deck-building. I then built a Dark Magician deck, which never went beyond the casual level. A friend of mine advised me to at least include Synchro monsters so that I could participate and keep up with others... but I thought it was all nonsense. I have to admit, though, I kinda like the Wind Witches
@Joeythroatgod
@Joeythroatgod Жыл бұрын
I agree with some ur takes and u have a chill outlook compared to most yugi boomers but I'm afraid things can't go back to "the way it used to be in the good old days" but competitiveness is a necessity in a game like yu gi oh and it can get stale without new content thus u should just stick to goat if u want to play like that
@neonorange6545
@neonorange6545 9 ай бұрын
Youre so right man damn! I once had a 67 turn duel in Nexus back in 2021 were my opponent and i had like a weird oldschool ygo and modern ygo deck and it was insanely fun! Ill always remember duels like those the tension!!!
@mimivrc4148
@mimivrc4148 6 ай бұрын
you know what's just as bad as FTK sweats? sweats who surrender just because they didn't get their perfect FTK hand
@wingzero2348
@wingzero2348 Жыл бұрын
Playing yugioh from 2002 to 2007 was so fun and even late 2007 to end of 2011 was still fun enough but around 2013...game went to sht.
@Nelex5000
@Nelex5000 7 ай бұрын
You're objectively right. people will hate on this video because it just shows the truth. modern yugioh isn't fun and it's completely void of soul.
@tulpartengri6584
@tulpartengri6584 7 ай бұрын
a good example are the card artworks. the original card artworks had super interesting unique desings like summoned skull. now every monster card looks like a typical anime waifu despite that duel monsters is said to be originated in egypt. Konami wants to appeal more to masses instead of sticking to its roots. konami has the ability to ruin all of their franchises. Look at metal gear how they treated kojima.
@Nelex5000
@Nelex5000 7 ай бұрын
@@tulpartengri6584 So true. They all look alike now. No personality.
@tulpartengri6584
@tulpartengri6584 7 ай бұрын
its over for yugioh@@Nelex5000
@Nelex5000
@Nelex5000 7 ай бұрын
@@tulpartengri6584 yugioh has fallen. billions must play pokemon
@Honest_Mids_Masher
@Honest_Mids_Masher 7 ай бұрын
To me all its showing is a lack of understanding of the game and terrible points in general
@sandroaces
@sandroaces 24 күн бұрын
The amount of time wasting with special summoning is so toxic
@AlexLeonRE4
@AlexLeonRE4 23 күн бұрын
For real, I once faced a guy who summoned 20+ monsters on his turn
@matthewrodgers740
@matthewrodgers740 Жыл бұрын
Yugioh died years ago this game has evolved to a point to where it’s untolerable I’m glad I quit I’d rather collect Pokémon cards and I don’t even play that game rest in pain Yu-Gi-Oh
@ultronsigma2737
@ultronsigma2737 Жыл бұрын
Died years ago, lmao
@Daniel-dl7ft
@Daniel-dl7ft Жыл бұрын
The game is actually doing fine nowadays lmao
@jackmarks6189
@jackmarks6189 9 ай бұрын
The problem with the new cards is they treat the GRAVEYARD like there hand
@winkawak
@winkawak Жыл бұрын
As a old school player coming back from 17 years of hiatus, the only way i can compete was to have bunch of cards in my deck like lava golemn, sphere mode, gameciel, skill drain, gravity bind, messenger of peace...etc to stand a chance.
@LeoHeart272
@LeoHeart272 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your deck is bad. If it is from 17 years ago it probably stopped being good a long long time ago (if it was ever actually good)
@alventuradelacruz522
@alventuradelacruz522 Жыл бұрын
Create an anti meta deck using carda like that, use messenger of peace with gravity bind and wall of light and some spell jammer and tools of the bandits
@aaronflores21af
@aaronflores21af Жыл бұрын
Exactly there should never be bad cards in a game just because there old it's bull crap if anything they should be the rare sought after cards that are op not the other way around but if it's all about the money and new cards it's wack tho
@Daniel-dl7ft
@Daniel-dl7ft Жыл бұрын
I mean, most modern decks play those cards too so whats the problem?
@phantomgg7790
@phantomgg7790 5 ай бұрын
honestly the core problem began a little past dragon ruler era, each season had its problems, its tier zeros, but you always felt like you could interact with your opponent, you felt if you found a clevor way to dig something out of your deck you could create an out. Each archetype, and each element even had their own themes and gimics. Zombie decks exploited the graveyard dark/light monsters often became chaos decks which involved removing cards from the game to bring out big monsters like black luster soldier Archfiends liked to bring out big monsters each deck had a piece of the game that uniquely them exploited very well. Some decks were experts at manipulating the grave, others were master manipulators over the field with traps, some had great deck searchers with a way to pull things out onto the field easily. Some decks exploited the extra deck with ease BUT THE KEY THING, is no deck was able to exploit all of these mechanics to the fullest. If you were to say there was five core mechanics in yu gi oh, from 2002-2013 the ten glory years of yu gi oh, every deck from those years, was only able to properly exploit 1-3 of those mechanics at a time, but never all five. NOW to be a meta deck you must be able to abuse every single mechanic that exists in the game to the fullest. And ironically that makes modern decks genuinely feel less special. Because if every tier 1 deck does literally everything, than their is zero point in chosing one deck over the other, you simply chose whats the strongest. There is no more "Controll" There is no more "tempo" There is no more "Stun", there is no more "graveyard focused" there is no more "hand control". It's simply "your deck MUST BE ABLE TO DO LTIERALLY EVERYTHING" or it sucks. Sadly we were able to see decks still able to keep some identity during the early link years, but fast forward to today, and dek identity is literally gone.
@FalconV7000
@FalconV7000 Жыл бұрын
My opponent just spent 5 minutes ""ending their turn"" by stacking a crazy number of effects... For a game that's really fussy about it's wording you'd think the end of their turn would actually be THE END OF THEIR TURN! God damn it Yugioh...
@Pen_Slinger
@Pen_Slinger 9 ай бұрын
They should take a note from the OG anime where they needed Ka to summon monsters and apply it to the game. Each player has 8000 Ka and it goes down as you summon monsters depending on their original ATK and DEF and what position you summon them in. If your Ka falls too low you can't summon anymore monsters that turn until your next standby phase where your Ka goes back up.
@alaacharaf_
@alaacharaf_ 2 ай бұрын
finally, someone said what I have been saying for year `s man, I said this in the Yugioh Duel links discord server and they were crying like the world was going to end and I got banned lol no one likes honesty anymore like the comments on this video lol
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming 2 ай бұрын
I know, those comments can't argue without their fee fees getting hurt.
@Yuuto_Katsuki
@Yuuto_Katsuki Ай бұрын
I can relate...
@hollowedheralds3332
@hollowedheralds3332 Жыл бұрын
I tried to get back in during the XYZ phase and adapted pretty well, and I think everything after just destroyed the game. Links and pendulums have power crept the entire meta with their possibilities, my kinda meta dark magician deck does NOTHING now. Solution is to slow down the game, the question is how. I suggest some kind of required resource for summoning to slow the game down, maybe throw some erratas around
@pokeyoureyeman2288
@pokeyoureyeman2288 Жыл бұрын
The problem with YGO is Konami never balanced the game and still hasn't, yet they continuously power creep and have let it grown out of control. The only thing keeping YGO is the cost-sunk fallacy of older players and churning through new players buying into the meta before they drop out. This applies to all card games but it's more prominent in YGO because again, the game is broken. It wasn't balanced when they made it and Konami never fixed it.
@LegendInMotion
@LegendInMotion 9 ай бұрын
So I took a look into this to see if it would be a healthy critique of the modern playstyle but was quite disappointed by what I watched. Look man, I get it. Yugioh is not how it used to be with summoning Celtic Guardian, Setting One and Pass. I also agree with the others on here as well that it was probably a pretty bad choice bringing up Gravekeeper seeing it was at one point a busted deck that stopped the opponent from playing GY specific decks (which again, is very much a viable and acceptable strategy in this game if you can successfully swing it). I came back to the game about a year ago and I too was very confused and a little irritated with the new type of monsters that came out (pendulum, XYZ, synchro, link) thinking that all these different types of monster effects and summoning conditions were completely busted. But once I started playing more and interacting with the other players, I saw what Yugioh transformed into. Not only has the anticipation gone up; it has become a game of strategic adaptability. The goal of the game is to reach your win condition first. If you cannot do so, then interrupt your opponent as much as you are able to do so as they attempt to get to their win condition. The archetype(s) you play will depend on the strategy you are going for and this is where the creative part of deck building comes into play as multiple archetypes are known to synergize really well with each other to make a more reliable and consistent deck. For example Tearlaments Ishizu or Branded Bystial. This is where my frustration started to dim and my interest started growing again. Yes; I admit there are definitely power creep problems in this game that need to be addressed. But we also need to acknowledge this game has created a lot more diversity in its strategies by introducing these new monster types throughout the years and that in of itself is always a positive.
@neonorange6545
@neonorange6545 9 ай бұрын
Youre so right man everything you said is correct... In my opinion Synchros and Xyz and Even some Links are nice with some interesting ideas... But pendulums and those 40 min turns where everything is just negate... Naa... I had fun with Yugioh from 2002 to 2021
@LoremasterGarcia
@LoremasterGarcia 2 ай бұрын
Modernity sucks.
@simplyyunak3189
@simplyyunak3189 Жыл бұрын
Yugioh needs more alternative formats where older less powerful cards can shine again
@ultronsigma2737
@ultronsigma2737 Жыл бұрын
Goat format, edison format. Your welcome
@simplyyunak3189
@simplyyunak3189 Жыл бұрын
@@ultronsigma2737 Know both of them. Played a bit of goat with my old cards from highschool rimes. Was real fun. But as a magic player in could see formats like ygo commander where you can play each card only once and have more than 1 opponent
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын
@@simplyyunak3189 While we do not have official Tag Duel formats, there is a community format similar to Commander that we call the "Domain Format". Basically, cards are 1ofs, you play a 60 card deck, and the archetypes you run must relate to a card referred to as your "Deck Master". So if my Deck Master is Performapal Skullcrobat Joker, I can run Performapals, Odd-Eyes, and Pendulum Magicians
@zackking4742
@zackking4742 10 ай бұрын
I love how people keep trying to defend modern Yugioh like it's good. I know the game from the original anime. That's it. When I was a kid, I loved watching it but never understood how to play it. When Master Duel came out, I saw it as a free game. I remember liking Yugioh. So, I gave it a shot. I still play it to this day. But I agree with you 100% the older formats are way better. People can disagree all they want to they're wrong. They like it because they're just as toxic themselves just like the game is. Toxic is attracted to toxic. Ive had to force myself to use Kashtira lately. Just so I can win duels. I don't enjoy it one bit. They mostly just quit mid duel or as soon as I play my first card. That doesn't make me feel good at all. Not in the slightest. I came to Master Duel to learn how to play the game just to learn that I almost wish I never even downloaded the game because of how the game itself is. I don't want to unlock cards. I just want to be given cards so I can build decks because I find genuine enjoyment building random decks to play with. I play not for enjoyment anymore because I feel that I have to play this chore of a game to unlock cards I do want to play with. In order to progress and unlock cards and get gems for packs, I have to win duels.... I want to know when and how I can just play it for fun because I'm probably going to stop playing one of these days because the game is only going to get a lot worse. There really should have been a power cap. This video speaks pretty much what I can't stand about modern Yugioh. All I like to play is Dark Magician,Blue-Eyes and Gaia. I want a Summoned Skull,Buster Blader,Red Eyes,Toon World,Harpie Lady,Dinosaur,insect,and so on. Based off the original format because that all sounds so fun to me. Maybe a Jinzo deck, something that involves Flame Swordsman,maybe magnet warriors and Egyptian Gods. Those are cards I want and don't have because I refuse to spend money on a game I feel is downright broken. That's my opinion.
@thejack5952
@thejack5952 10 ай бұрын
Youre better off playing another trading card game, friend. This game as well as the fandom and konami are a lost cause, in my opinion.
@bdkf-ci9hg
@bdkf-ci9hg 10 ай бұрын
I dont like this game its not how it used to be 20 years ago and youre toxic if you do Man you got some problems huh
@koumorichinpo4326
@koumorichinpo4326 10 ай бұрын
@@bdkf-ci9hg why is mtg still roughly the same speed despite being older than ygo? alienating the fanbase by powercreeping this hard is a problem.
@bdkf-ci9hg
@bdkf-ci9hg 10 ай бұрын
@@koumorichinpo4326 ah yes the same old argument, mind you i dont think that power creep is a problem thats just natural but when you suddenly release something with a power level so high that something released just a month ago cant compete with at all there we have a problem and in which i cant deny that ygo did do this a couple of times but not nearly enough for me to consider it a general problem in the game , also i don't think you can compare ygo with mtg ygo changes its rulings and adds new whole mechanics every couple of years while mtg stays the same with a couple of changes thats why ygo is very different from what it was 20 years ago and im not a mtg veteran but i saw a fair share of videos critising the new additions in the game but overall that doesnt really matter since you can switch formats freely in mtg and theyre heavily supported.
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 10 ай бұрын
@@bdkf-ci9hg Congrats for proving their point. Being an asshole because you don't agree with their opinion on how power creep fucked the game over. You're the epitome of "I have no asshole friends" because you're it.
@nagitokomaeda5977
@nagitokomaeda5977 11 ай бұрын
have you heard about Yata lock in your beloved goat format? Or have you heard about strategies which just shut down whole mechanic like Necrovalley? Oh you just play Gravekeepers in your video by the way, very interactive and healthy strategy from goat format very unlike modern yugioh
@saphron613
@saphron613 11 ай бұрын
Somebody is mad that they got called out 💀
@Citizen_Nappa23
@Citizen_Nappa23 5 ай бұрын
Clearly you didn't play goat Yata was banned in 2002 heart of goat was between 2005-2007😂
@jw7500
@jw7500 Жыл бұрын
Hot take perhaps: but Yu Gi Oh was good until like 2010ish (including 5D's). Synchro's were perfectly fine, it was basically ritual summoning that didn't suck balls. Edison format (2010) is the best format in my opinion. Goat format has it's merits, but it has stuff that should be banned immediately: (Delinquent Duo, Pot of Greed etc). I agree that everything afterwards has been absolute cancer. Ps. MtG isn't the be all end all either. Wizards of the Coasts is hard at work killing that game. Product overload and price gauging galore. I played until Amonkhet and basically only play Commander now.
@milklander847
@milklander847 Жыл бұрын
Goat Format was short on cards, which makes the format boring for me. In addition, the power creep with the magic cards had been too op. The Goat format is all about recycling your strongest spell cards, which I find boring. Delinquent Duo and Confiscation should never have been designed.
@IamPussy
@IamPussy 9 ай бұрын
Its crazy now that if someone puts a card in face down defense these days you can assume they're a noob or have a bad hand but not assume its a part of their strategy. Also the use of traps are " too slow". So it's just a game of offense and interruptions lol.
@malevolenceygo249
@malevolenceygo249 Жыл бұрын
I already commented a while ago, but megacapitalg saw your video and you popped back into my mind again. Just checking that people are still angry about their playground yugioh decks from nearly a quarter century ago aren't playable. I recommend to you lot a series called "History of Yugioh" by a yugituber called cimooooooooo, it was a total nostalgia blast for me, and might be educational in telling why you guys are wrong about old school COMPETITIVE yugioh.
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Жыл бұрын
👍
@user-hj8oh9kh7v
@user-hj8oh9kh7v Жыл бұрын
95% of the player base not the COMPETITIVE side bruh😂
@Daniel-dl7ft
@Daniel-dl7ft Жыл бұрын
​@@user-hj8oh9kh7vthen don't play competitive
@butterspike680
@butterspike680 9 ай бұрын
I get what you're saying, the modern combo oriented strategies may not be for everyone, but I wouldnt say its a bad game at all at the point we are now, the archetypal decks brought a lot of variety into the scene, which only has expanded with the years. In casual enviroments pretty much anything can be viable with smart deckbuilding and the use of powerful staples and tech cards. That variety is what hooked me about modern yugioh. I see the appeal of older, slower formats, I don't think there's anything wrong if you prefer those type of experiences, but saying "Everything past GX blows" because it doesn't resonate with you isn't fair at all. And it's very stange too, because even past GX the game still was considerably slow paced, you just had more options to special summon powerful monsters, and it became more frequent, but a lot of turns still ended in normal summon, set 2 and pass. I don't know, man. I can see the valid critizisms, but it feels to me that you are very biased and it made your take end up shitty.
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming 9 ай бұрын
Well like I tell others, I know I wasn’t biased and I get why people think that but I feel the responses I have gotten saying I was wrong had come from a place bias themselves
@butterspike680
@butterspike680 9 ай бұрын
​@JohnKill3DGaming I got that feeling because you said that from the start of the 5Ds era the game started to blow, and I don't understand why
@ghostkee5031
@ghostkee5031 Ай бұрын
I stopped playing this shit game since people start normal summoning 5 monsters with +3000000000000 atk in the same turn
@JohnKill3DGaming
@JohnKill3DGaming Ай бұрын
Yugioh is sadly ran by the power creepers a toxic players who only wanna play the game if the opponent can’t play.
@ryankoopacanada
@ryankoopacanada Ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!!! And IF you get a turn (you probably won’t) they have 50000000000000 hand traps to stop ANYTHING you do….thats not fun
@IggyBitz
@IggyBitz 10 күн бұрын
Nah 5D's was fine Fusions, Syncros and Xyz's are fine The problem is the meta cards
@maxiumeffort512
@maxiumeffort512 5 ай бұрын
Someone should create a group or tournament that doesn’t allow cards that involves those link, xyz and synchro summons.
@nasayatcg
@nasayatcg 9 ай бұрын
I tried getting back into the game (once again). I grew up with original Yu-Gi-Oh, but I've made myself familiar with modern Yu-Gi-Oh. I don't think anyone can make a realistic argument that Yugioh is a game welcoming to new players. Trying to play Master Duel, I bought the Dragonmaid starter deck. I had a few cards to upgrade it with, and went to ranked (I was in the BRONZE tier). My second match in, it was turn 0 and my opponent had a full field of XYZ and link monsters. I knew I couldn't win, but I decided to still attempt my first turn of the game and my opponent negated my first card. I just surrendered. This experience is not an anomaly. It's an absurd atmosphere for someone trying to just learn their own cards. It's not conducive to player retention and it's extremely unfun. I don't mean to say insta winning doesn't have a place in Yu-Gi-Oh, but it cannot be the entire game or eventually you'll be playing solitaire because you don't have an opponent. I imagine the stereotype that Yugioh players don't read their cards only becomes more of a reality as this issue of power prevails. Players don't even have a chance to learn what their cards are capable of because of not only playtime being consumed by the combo fueled opponents but also from being locked out of your deck constantly. Each card is a novel being chained to another novel and so on. If you're unfamiliar with most of the cards, it's a tall order to not only stop your opponent's flow, but to also attempt to understand the combo on the fly all while you try to retain what your own cards are capable of. A match of 2-3 turns composed almost entirely by your opponents play in disparity to your own isn't going to allow for a learning experience nor a desire to return for more. I want to enjoy Yu-Gi-Oh more, but I feel like that's an impossible task at this point, and I don't think there's an efficient and fun means of entering into the game.
@swiperightshow
@swiperightshow 9 ай бұрын
The fact that vanilla monsters aren't even a thing just literally tells you it’s not the same game anymore. I have said it 1 million times today’s Yugioh is a completely different game. it’s literally like comparing Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball super they should just literally call it a different name at that point they’re basically throwing away the history of it and just using the name for marketing
@mcmisterhd1920
@mcmisterhd1920 8 ай бұрын
1) Wrong, they are a thing. Sunseed Genus Loci is part of (and the most vital card in) a rogue deck (Rikka Sunavalon) that won the European Championship this year. I can list more, Blue-Eyes White Dragon (yes, that blue eyes), won the World Championship in 2016, Angel Trumpeteer was used in Adamancipator (2021), monk of the tenyi, a non effect link monster if that counts, part of Swordsoul Tenyi (2022), Gem-Knight Garnet and Dark Witch used in the Brilliant Fusion engine (around 2017 I believe), Genex Controller used with Genex Undyne in Mermail (somewhere 2013, long before I started playing, but still in modern yugioh as it was a big synchro/xyz combo pile). Also some normal pendulum monsters like Igknights were ok-ish at some points. 2) When were normal monsters ever relevant outside of being used in combos? 2002 when the only effect monster was man eater bug? Even in Goat format from 2004 or so, noone used vanillas. If you dont like modern yugioh, fine, but at least do some research.
@swiperightshow
@swiperightshow 8 ай бұрын
@@mcmisterhd1920 tournaments lol I'm dead it's not the same. You can like the new different game but no need to justify it being different. It's different it's not the same game anymore
@mcmisterhd1920
@mcmisterhd1920 8 ай бұрын
@@swiperightshow Im not justifying it being different Im just demonstating how none of you people actually know what youre talking about and all you ever played was playground Yugioh.
@mcmisterhd1920
@mcmisterhd1920 8 ай бұрын
@@shirou0028 I agree that Yugioh is too hard to get into currently unless you know someone who can introduce you, I would love for konami to support goat and edison as introduction formats for newer players (couldnt care less about speed duel/rush duel) but my point still stands, last time normal monsters were good, was when mechanical chaser was the most expensive card. Even goat decks from 2004 dont play normal monsters. And yeah, special summons are very common, but why is that bad? We have slower games like magic (which i kinda like but MTGA is hella p2w) and faster games like Yugioh. Sure there are less turns, but in even a single turn there is more interaction and decision making than in an entire game of goat.
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