You should team up with ace card gaming! He's is probably the only sonic profiler who rivals you.

Quick question, what's your thoughts on how Tails was portrayed in the second film?

Yesss!!! Silver is my favorite character of all time and on top of that! one of my favorite Sonics KZfaqrs is making a video on him- I know this video is going to be amazing >:D

I love your Character analysis videos keep up the good work.

Knuckles was by far my favourite character in his debut games so it was great to see the character treated with more respect than he has been for a long time. It's no surprise that he doesn't understand earth culture, he hasn't had years spent observing people like movie Sonic has. I felt I was spending a lot more time laughing with Knuckles and a lot less time laughing at him.

Exactly. The movie makes it obvious that Knuckles is a foreigner (literally) to Earth culture

Not to mention this type of Earnest character comedy is so rare in a post m.c.u. world. The cartoony comedy like that bar passable, but still felt like flatlining every time knuckles wasn't on screen.

I felt the same way. Which is why seeing the way he was mishandled in the "Sonic Drone Home" short upset me greatly.

@@gregzotter6189 I feel the same way. Knuckles portrayal in the “Drone home” was a massive step down from how he was in the movie. I feel like the two had different writers

Yes

*ONE MILLION PERCENT **_C U M_*

I wonder what his revenge plot against Tails is though lol

@@specialbeamvegeta4059 Maybe when knuckles tricks tails, throws away his baseball bat and punched the ball, almost collecting tails head. That sounds like some decent revenge 😂

@@specialbeamvegeta4059 I swear at some point I thought Knuckles would punch Tails out of nowhere

Video of Knuckles actual victory chariot. Someone actually made a video on it lol kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8hoZbuTlqmcn6c.html

Brilliant Summary. I don't know if I could put it better.

Funny cuz I don't remember knuckles ever catching sonic's spindash effortlessly in mid air with ONE HAND! Anyone else?

Ah, My victory chariot!

@@aidenscreations2487 but if my quest ends where i'm standing, why run at all?

That is the same strategy as early simsons. Humor rooted in character, rather than lauching at characters

@Who's Gonna be the hero? (2001) I can influence the decision.

Similar to how Goku was in dragon ball. He was smart, just never interacted with anyone. The super happened and that was, well it wasn't the Goku I know

Exactly now they just make him zomom from sonic lost world

@Who's Gonna be the hero? (2001) Why did you delete your first comment

@Who's Gonna be the hero? (2001) Or maybe because what you wrote was embarassingly stupid

It's still Jim Carrey wearing eggman's skin, and spewing Marvel shlock to boot! Wanna know who's is the only effective and memorable comedy in the whole movie?(i'll give you a hint:"it starts with a...knuckles"!)

@@erikbihari3625 I wasn't a fan of movie Eggman either, or his Smithers. Also God(?) Eggman is probably the worst Eggman design we've had, due it turning him into generic villain in black #59386940295. Not sure the talking in autotune was really necessary. (I will give some credit to use of Walk however!)

@@DemonDethchase Yeah, I heard Jim Carrey actually brought up using a fat suit! Wich prooves he was simultaniously too good for this movie and completely phoned it in.

Dot dot dot... that by itself was hilarious

@@DemonDethchase That's the thing though, that's exactly what Robotnik has always wanted to be - the generic villain with ultimate power over all things. He strives for a goal that, realistically, he should never be able to achieve, but he finds a way in the Master Emerald. Really, in this they have the ultimate failure for Robotnik - that being that he finally achieves his goal of fitting into this villain archetype, only to almost immediately lose anyway, seemingly dying in the process. It's not "Eggman became a generic villain." That only looks at his last 15 minutes in the films in isolation. His character is not defined by those 15 mins, but rather by his arc over the two films. As a small extra point, I'd also note that the fact that one of the first things he does with his new power is vocode his voice for fun is a pretty solid example of how he *does* differ from "generic villain in black #59386940295." He still has his own character *on top* of the power and status he's achieved. But that's not really the point.

*I'm sorry, you've never heard of me, but I've seen you EVERYWHERE-* Also, I agree, knuckles was treated very poorly in the games, and the movie, as it may not be accurate to knuckles' origins, is the BEST interpretation since the IDW comics, and as for the "Dumb Knuckles" Sega used knuckles as a comedy relief character after adventure. And it's still used as a comedy relief character here, but his characterization is just... Amazing compared to Sega's.

from "dumb knuckles" to "grandpa knuckles" and honestly i welcome the change

@@vitaleriof Definitely makes him feel welcome into the “Heroic Fish-Out-Of-Water” Category, alongside Buzz Lightyear and Starfire.

The movie is still pretty forgetable aside from anything involving knuckles. Because unlike the pop culture spewing snarky Marvel crap it's entirely stems from he's character! Watch"so uncivilized"S channel!

@@erikbihari3625 ?

@@erikbihari3625 English

@@raiu_fp5194 Can't you read it? The only memorable thing about this movie is knuckles! Because unlike the Marvel shlock everyone else does in the movie he's comedy comes from his character!

@@erikbihari3625 ok

you might want to watch Gameapologists video on this... his theory is that Knuckles KNOWS how to counter Chaos energy, not necessarily USE it like Sonic in his Super Form but to cancel it out.

Then why couldn't he do that to chaos in Sonic adventure 1!?😡 And the"because the game's events wouldn't have happen"rhetoric won't fly here, just facts and logic.

@@erikbihari3625 chaos doesn't quite follow the average rules when it comes to chaos energy. the thing is a chao mutated into divinity by the very same chaos energy. we see it with chaos 2, which dematerializes the emerald where changing shape instead of moving them around, which should be an exclusive of the superform with all 7 of them, and when he dissolves after being defeated he leaves no residue in any of the form, which should not happen has he gains a "scheletrical costruct" to hold them in baseline, the thing did not work on chaos because he's incompatible in fisionomy to punch the chaos out of him, and the master emerald being in pieces meant no 'off prayer' like the one used later on the ark, and perfect caos being so much above actual punching range at that point to do it

@@serPomiz Also, Chaos uses the negative energy of the emeralds to get stronger. That probably uses mechanisms FAR different than ANYONE but Tikal has seen

it reminds me of some character, I think Lex Luthor, who literally got the God punched out of him by Superman. As in, he had god powers, superman punched him, and now he no longer has god powers.

Ikr, I loved that part

I seriously hope we get more of that in the third movie

Hopefully

I've read the pre-quil comic, Knuckles' story is so damn interesting especially the fact that Team Choatix made a quick cameo that caught many readers off guard!

I was going to say the chaotix will appear, but you already mentioned it, so, yeah and I hope rey and mighty, because both of them are part of the chaotix group and I hope that they wont be step asided again or like they'll never appeared or mentioned after that like the games

Sonic even seems to be slowly developing into his adventure and storybook characterisation as well. He starts to become way more adventurous, cocky, inspirational and selfless near the end of the movie

@@akiro7640 along with rouge due to shadow being in sonic 3

I know a lot of people want Keanu Reeves as Shadow The Hedgehog. But what about Daniel Craig?

@@rickyrackey7930 Idk man. Daniel Craig doesn’t exactly have a deep voice

@@bengilhooly3616 It sounds pretty deep to me

And future games.

Imagine during a fight scene he’s just *eating grapes*

@SupaTed10 no he is just fighting as well but taking bites of grapes in between attacks

@@gavinwilson5895 Perfect

It's *Idris* Elba actually. But your totally right!👍

The movie version also has more in common with drax the desteoyer in many aspects of he's personality, thanos strength and portal entrance, and mcu heindal's voice.

Tails in the movie is such a breath of hope after the character assassination in the games (Lost worlds and Forces). I wouldn't go so far saying its a return to form from sonic adventure 1 and 2, because he's not yet acting as the guy with the plan for the group. He has brilliance on display with everything he uses and eagerness to get out of a sticky situation, but he's the sidekick here between two protagonists. This movie DID set him up to be like SA1 and SA2 which I hope they shine light on. Here's to hoping it'll happen my two tailed friend.

Tails was also so good in the movie. Mixture of cute, very smart and willing to learn and try new things even if he’s scared. Damn, these guys can write better characters than sonic team 😂

@@EmmaxoOCE Ik, even one of the sonic writers admitted to only looking at a Wikipedia article as a way of writing the characters and games.

I hope pj makes a tails video, heck it would be hilarious if he mentioned my comment 😂

@@EmmaxoOCE I agree seeing tails had me all starry-eyed when I was in the scinema. Being a Tails fan first, sonic fan second I can't wait to see more of the yellow blitz.

I can only hope

This aged very well!

I agree with you pal since she is his main rival as well as his love interest. She would definitely bring out the best in Knuckles and keep him relevant in the third movie

This movie introduced two new characters, why shouldnt the next one?

Maybe when they get there, they find out that the Edchidnas wanted the emeralds to protect themself from the water beast, Chaos.

@@rickyrackey7930 oh that’s an excellent idea

@@thataintfalco7106 Maybe they will trap him in the Master Emerald.

@@rickyrackey7930 that’s an interesting idea! Maybe the master emerald will have cracks in it, and chaos will try to escape from them

@@thataintfalco7106 Maybe SammyClassicsSonicFan can cameo in Sonic 3 as one of Gerald’s fellow scientist. Recently, he became a much more quiet and reasonable person.

Yeah I hope Shadow isn’t a no-brainer douchebag edgelord

Please for the love of GOD no more cinematic UNIVERSES!

@@erikbihari3625 why do people use that term now? we don't have a "full cinematic universe" if it's just sequels to one movie

IMO, my perfet "movie universe timeline" is the first two we've seen, SA2 (with mercenary/treasure hunter Rouge, and shadow vanishing at the end, but with a few Black Doom/StH references), the 4th movie actually going back to SA1, introducing Amy, Tikal, and Chaos, and then the 5th movie being a modified Sonic Heroes with Shadow being found in the pod, skipping Big and Cream and leaving the chaotix as a cameo, and Metal Sonic possibly being derived from Chaos, with more black doom info for Shadow. Then combine '06 and StH by making Black doom and the evil force from, '06 the same thing.

@@rakaydosdraj8405 Honestly, the rough part of SA1 is, the master emerald's creation process is actually covered pre-emptively. This means Chaos, if it does exist, never got sealed.

This is a good point to make, however, i dont think knuckles did or even would put someone else in charge of gaurding the master emerald for him. the reason I say that is because no character in the sonic games is as devoted to protecting the master emerald as knuckles. in addition, the movie makes it clear that knuckles' only purpose is guarding the mater emerald, and he makes it clear that if he cannot fulfil his purpose, then he doesnt know why he is here. and while it is true that he does become a bit more laid back later into the games, he doesnt fully trust people to important or personal things for him. all im saying that while might be true, it just doesnt really add up.

@@Sonicspeeder2023 That 's true, so I think he needed a really, really good reason as to why he decided to go with Sonic and Tails to stop Metal Sonic. I also think that if Knuckles was ever to be killed or turned evil, I think he would trust Sonic and Tails (as well as some members of the Chaotix) enough to guard the Master Emerald for him. For example, when Sonic returned the Master Emerald to Angel Island, he was his Super/Hyper form, had no one to stop him, had unlimited power from the Master Emerald, and could've left with it and never return, so when Sonic did return the Master Emerald to Angel Island, I think that should've been enough for Knuckles to trust or at least respect Sonic.

also, "MIghtY aND RAy wiLl oNLy bE clASSic CharACTers"

@@That0neDude What?

Alternatively, he can break apart the emerald and scatter it's fragments around the island to prevent it's capture. A better strategy though, If SA2 is to be believed, is to just manipulate it's size and carry it with him. Angel Island's ability to float doesn't protect it anymore, after all, so keeping the Emerald on the move, never in one place for too long, is a natural development that lets Knuckles take part in stories without needing a reason to have him there. He can still be hesitant to help out, since bringing attention to himself brings attention to the Emerald, but it's a much better solution than pretending the Emerald doesn't exist. This also adds potential for Knuckles to be given new abilities based on his possession of the Master Emerald.

I always excuse the boom series cause of how funny it is 😭

@@Rachel-xu7jj *I did honestly like the cartoon series, but it really didn't do Knux any justice.*

@@winniebae4alwayyz963 atleast knuckles became a feminist in the show

@@Black__Rose. 💀

@@omnipotentowlproductions whats that supposed to mean,also amogus

Then just watch it online

Given the subspace levels are supposedly based around Sonic's memories, I wouldn't be surprised if the Knuckles with the Master Emerald were just memories and an excuse to pull another Generations and cater heavily to nostalgia.

The movie is made by original films and distributed by paramount, I doubt if it go well it's sega's doing! Still why not two birds one Stone and have Adam Driver play shadow?(it'll be Double redemption!)

@@erikbihari3625 Adam Driver as shadow sounds like an amazing idea.

@@Turtle22312 Thanks. It'd be also nice if team dark would be the villains. Make movie omega gerald's guard dog for shadow's protection, rouge recruits them in a play for the emeralds and Bam, full epic showdown!

@@erikbihari3625 That would be cool. And the film could end with Shadow sacrificing himself to save everyone or have him survive and we can get a cool spinoff show about team dark.

@@Turtle22312 from what I heard the third movie will take inspiration from both sa2 AND shadow 05. So with that being said, I highly doubt shadow will die after fighting the bio lizard considering the fact that black doom will also be a thing. (Also if they want to depict 06, it would be a damn shame if shadow was dead and it will undermine Mepthiles' character considering that he's up and foremost Shadow's foil.)

I think a better example of a Dark Era Sonic game would be from Sonic Chronicles; where, despite sharing some elements from the Archie Comics (and understandably won't be continued, due to not making a deal with Ken Penders prior to the release, but that's not gonna excuse Ken's behavior now, and that's not the point), they tried to expand on the idea of Echidnas that would've existed long after the events of the original Echidna Tribe, and even had Angel Island and the Master Emerald back to relevancy. I'd argue that, if you don't count the Sonic Forces Prequel Comic (because external storytelling not packaged with the game is not the way to go for me) Sonic Chronicles would come before Sonic Forces, because Forces feels more like a Fleetway ripoff (and probably is when IDW continues where Forces left off). Speaking of, at the end of Chronicles, Sonic and friends end up in a future where Eggman took control of Sonic's Home Planet; not only that, but it would be the last time Angel Island and the Master Emerald was relevant; because Angel Island no longer floats in Sonic Chronicles, and crashed on to Metropolis, with major damage to the floating island; no longer in the skies ever again.

@@robbiewalker2831 well basically because of Karen penders chronicles don’t cannon and there is no sequel. And that means Angie island is still in the air and chronicles just never happen it’s all because of this stupid excuse of a writer who steals characters who don’t even belong to him or even made by him we will never see a remake unless paramount also gives justice to sega if and when because paramount has great lawyers beat dumb ass hole in court maybe they finally help sega to and give the rights of shade back to sega and the property/characters of Archie back to sega since archie is discontinued maybe if this happens they make a new new new reboot for a different follow up to archie. Hopefully. But as of now I’m not counting chronicles because of the lawsuit

Funny cuz I don't remember knuckles ever catching sonic's spindash effortlessly in mid air with ONE HAND! Anyone else? Sonic X fans!?(only thing badass was one punching emeralds out of super sonic.)

@@erikbihari3625 I mean.. punching the emeralds out of super sonic while he's dashing IS more impressive than catching regular old sonic in one hand.

@@elevated6941 Literally the only badass thing he done in he's debute game(s) is to knock the super out of sonic, and he's actual boss battle is a breeze!

@@erikbihari3625 I mean still it's more than most of what Sonic's rivals did. Shadow and Blaze had a tie with sonic same with Silver, while metal sonic got his sh1t rocked. So yes, I would say he's badass.

@@elevated6941 let me ask. If knuckles is such a"BADASS", how come he NEVER REPEATED this in the GAMES?😡 For example why couldn't he just one punch the emeralds out of chaos in S.A.-1?

I have now uploaded a video analyzing knuckles in that prologue animation. Hope you enjoy!

Shadow was done dirty in the comics bc of segas stupid mandates of the character.

Shadow is more in character as a whole in the comics, but he's forced to make certain dumb decisions at key moments because of the mandates. There's a certain degree of egocentric jerk Sega is forcing Shadow to be (which is different from the no nonsense and independent traits he has). I pray Infinite can come back and take over the "I can only rely on me" aspects of Shadow's character.

@@amandaslough125 Is it bad that I liked Shadow best in 06?

@@ethanedwards3357 06 Shadow is peak shadow

What puzzles me is why Shadow has been pushed into the type of character he is. Iizuka basically led the Sonic Adventure 2 production as Yuji Naka was off making PSO, so you'd think with Iizuka being in charge after '06, Shadow would be treated appropriate based on his original design, but instead he flipped the coin hard onto the "Edgy the Hedgey" meme side and pretty much ruined him.

Ditto!

Glad you enjoyed it! The support is truly appreciated.

I've not only seen it, but uploaded a video analyzing Knuckles in it! Hope you enjoy it if you do check it out.

Same here. After the track record of the movies, I have complete faith in the writers to do Shadow Justice.

@@thepjshow same and I guarantee that the writers of the first 2 films will do a great job.

Yes I hope so

@@thepjshow The problem with Sonic characters is that ever since Sonic Unleashed, Sega wants Sonic to be playable and that's it. Most likely because people had issues with Knuckles emerald hunting in SA 2. Without that Sega doesn't know what to do with Knuckles in the 3d games. Movie Knuckles doesn't suffer from this because it's a film, not a game.

Ditto!

And Sonic Frontiers looks badass too

Please eggman is about as faithful as Batman forever riddler is!

Eggman needs to pick up on weight and he’s perfect

Now all they need Is to get shadows character right

@@juliabonavita4731 if they do decide to mangle the adventure 2 story with he's self titled game, it'll be another Amazing-2 Spiderman-3 situation.

No, logically it'd be s.a-2+heroes! That way just like how this movie give us the trinity, the next movie can see them showdown with team Dark!🦔🖤+🦇🤍+🤖!(movie omega will be gerald's invention too.)