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How Mushoku Tensei Perfected Female Characters

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ItzKish

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@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Alright I think I need to read the Light Novel after this season and go Follow Me on Twitter @Itizkish and what type of video do you want to see next?
@Austintatious1096
@Austintatious1096 2 ай бұрын
Cannot recommend it more. It's the first light novel I've ever read. Totally worth reading 26 books.
@FCBayernMunichFCBM
@FCBayernMunichFCBM 2 ай бұрын
nice
@Kaylakaze
@Kaylakaze 2 ай бұрын
It's out on audiobook now so you can listen to it
@samikazbe
@samikazbe 2 ай бұрын
the LN will highlight your view even more. The anime skip so much details.
@gogogadgetrectalpunch7436
@gogogadgetrectalpunch7436 2 ай бұрын
You’re probably gonna want to add a LOT more to this video once you read the LNs. There’s so much information left out of the anime of each character, one of which you’re most likely gonna have an opinion switch about.
@bikaskumarkundu2638
@bikaskumarkundu2638 2 ай бұрын
If the anime was completely loyal to the novel, then the female cast would've been even richer. The anime skipped through a chapter in Volume 1 named, "The Mother of the Greyrat Family", where enough characterization is given to Zenith for her to become one of the best written female characters in the show. There's also Elinalise, Therese and Nanahoshi and that's not mentioning multiple characters who haven't appeared in the anime, yet.
@kmdreacts
@kmdreacts 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention her sister, Therese, (Rudeus Aunt) who Rudy met leaving Milis with Ruijerd & Eris.
@felipelb8673
@felipelb8673 2 ай бұрын
therese arc totally omitted by the anime
@captainvanisher988
@captainvanisher988 2 ай бұрын
Trying to claim that an anime or movie adaptation of a book/novel can have the same depth as said book/novel is ridiculously low IQ, I can't even start to break it down. YOU CAN'T ADAPT EVERYTHING FROM THE BOOK. How many times does one have to say this for you idiots to understand it?
@KuroAshi_senpai
@KuroAshi_senpai 2 ай бұрын
Thank you mate i only started to read the novel after Orsted encounter so i didnt know about this chapter i read the chapter just now and cried
@bikaskumarkundu2638
@bikaskumarkundu2638 2 ай бұрын
@@KuroAshi_senpai my brother, read the entire novel. It's one of the greatest novels in existence.
@mikeluna2026
@mikeluna2026 2 ай бұрын
I think the anime botched episode 23. The biggest mistake was not explaining Rudeus state of mind properly. He wasn't just sad. He was so depressed he hadn't eaten for nearly two weeks (he couldn't stomach food and puked if he tried to eat), he also had nightmares every time he tried to sleep so he must have been very sleep deprived (that'd wreak havoc with your state of mind). There was no recovery on sight. And no returning because only Rudeus could disperse the perpetual sandstorm blocking the way to the area with the teleporter. He was basically on a one way trip to the grave. Roxy literally saved his life. In the book the whole event feels like when stranded people eat their dead. It's reproachable, but understandable.
@hmmm..668
@hmmm..668 2 ай бұрын
As an anime only, were not dumb, we could see that, not everything has to be said, we have eyes you know.
@sheaamichael9694
@sheaamichael9694 2 ай бұрын
@@hmmm..668 it didn't go into enough detail. even the level it did with corn would have been better.
@mikeluna2026
@mikeluna2026 2 ай бұрын
@@hmmm..668 I would love to agree with you. But on the site I use to watch the anime tons of people's comments showed me the detail flew over a lot of people's heads. Some even said "why is he gaunt after a single day?". Unfortunately, not everyone has high IQ or pay a lot of attention to small details.
@childcannibalism5080
@childcannibalism5080 2 ай бұрын
@@hmmm..668 Show more, the problem isnt no text wall, its not enough time for the moment to really hit.
@ietdkvd
@ietdkvd 2 ай бұрын
​@@mikeluna2026if they cant interpret a simple meaning behind a scene then i dont tink they deserved to watch it in the first place
@Johnson-ht1yj
@Johnson-ht1yj 2 ай бұрын
Theres soooooooooooooooooooo much more lore and skipped content of side character that the anime of MT didn't. So i highly recommend giving the LN a go. :D
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
There is a manga right?
@dhjijejd6980
@dhjijejd6980 2 ай бұрын
​@@ItzzKishthe manga lags behind the anime and just like the anime misses a lot including the pov of many characters and also changing events (just like the last episode)
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
@@dhjijejd6980that sucks woulda thought the manga would have more, is it just a straight up copy of the anime
@dhjijejd6980
@dhjijejd6980 2 ай бұрын
@@ItzzKish this is not a copy, in fact I would say the manga is worse than the anime in most cases, in rare cases it can convey everything more accurately, with more detail and more emotionally as in the case of the norn arc, but it has bad and illogical changes and the same and sometimes much larger plot gaps. the novella reveals the world, characters, and their thoughts much better; there are many moments from the perspective of other characters, etc.
@j4q6_
@j4q6_ 2 ай бұрын
@@ItzzKishthe source material for the series is the light novel which is currently fully finished and besides side stories also fully translated into English it has 26 volumes and season 1 adapted 6 same as season 2 adapting another 6
@Ferinke
@Ferinke 2 ай бұрын
I'd disagree with sylphie being the hole. However im not an anime only. Ive read the LN. Sylphies father Laws asked sylphie if shes gonna let rudy always solve her problems and then she wanted to become stronger for rudy. Rudy was kinda the roxy for sylphie. She didnt have friends then rudy came along. She was assaulted for her hair and rudy protected her. Rudy was the reason sylphie was able to build self confidence. Rudys teachings also protected during and after the mana disaster. Back in the village sylphie kept her hair short so the green is less noticable. Sylphie is similar to eris however eris does have more development. They both heavily leaned on rudy for everything. Eventually a event occurred where they couldnt protect rudy. Then they decided to get better so that wont happen again. Great video tho.
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
The difference is that Sylphie became her own independent character whose world is bigger than just Rudeus. Eris whole world is Rudeus, everything she does IS for Rudeus. The only reason why I would say that Eris does have more development is because of how braindead and impulsive she was at the beginning. But taking into consideration what they both reach? Sylphie definitely got far ahead as a character and as a person
@OggerFN
@OggerFN 2 ай бұрын
​@@ShiNijuuAKL Yes I agree Sylphie has her own goals and relations while Eris doesn't really. If rudeus didn't come to the academy she would have stuck to the princess plot.
@alexllenas4607
@alexllenas4607 2 ай бұрын
Light SPOILERS from the novel You can further see how Sylphie isn't blindly loyal to Rudeus when the Autor shows an alternate future where Rudeus is a really crappy husband and she leave him with their kid to go with the princess. A stereotypical anime girl would just have stayed
@Ferinke
@Ferinke 2 ай бұрын
@@alexllenas4607 Reading ln 14/15 was depressing
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
@@alexllenas4607 not disagreeing with you but just to clarify, yes Sylphie made a statement by leaving everything he gifted her behind, but there's no way she planned to leave forever, taking into consideration she also had to leave Lucy behind. If it wasn't for ..... they would've reconciled eventually
@joseramirez-hh2sw
@joseramirez-hh2sw 2 ай бұрын
I feel you on Sylphy 99.9 % cause I felt the same way about her (I'm also an anime only) but for me that change when you see her go out for blood trying to kill nanahoshi when she says she's the cause of the teleport incident. Seriously, that scene is the best. I who couldn't accept her for being bland was transfixed with her in that instant. So yeah...
@sherrykathman3309
@sherrykathman3309 Ай бұрын
Wait until the next turning point. You'll see that Sylphy again.
@joseramirez-hh2sw
@joseramirez-hh2sw Ай бұрын
@@sherrykathman3309 I love that Sylphy. I want to marry that Sylphy. I want to be crude and say something cheesy like "how many children would you like" and then laugh it up and say "lots it is then" ahem.
@AsunaLover443
@AsunaLover443 2 ай бұрын
Sylphy was written like that intentionally, sadly the anime never went into it :( , before rudeus got sent off to teach eris sylphy's hole world was Rudy that's also a big reason why Rudy was sent away because Paul didn't want Sylphy's world to be Rudy, I recommend to read the LN
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
That makes a lotta sense tbh
@Shwooomp
@Shwooomp 2 ай бұрын
@@ItzzKish I'd disagree with Sylphie being the hole. A lot of her moments and thoughts that was there to set up her character in the future got cut in the anime. What you're saying about Sylphie is much more closer to Eris imo. Eris does not give a fk about her kingdom lol. And she trains to be strong enough to protect Rudeus, not become the best swordsman or anything
@rexhat2901
@rexhat2901 2 ай бұрын
WE WRECKING THE BLACK CLOVER COMMUNITY WITH THIS ONE💯💯💯😂
@LUIG1PLUS
@LUIG1PLUS 2 ай бұрын
Wdym
@LUIG1PLUS
@LUIG1PLUS 2 ай бұрын
O
@LUIG1PLUS
@LUIG1PLUS 2 ай бұрын
Now I get it
@cruelson9072
@cruelson9072 2 ай бұрын
Since when does black clover have a good female cast?(except mereoleona)
@rexhat2901
@rexhat2901 2 ай бұрын
@@cruelson9072 I never said said it did
@hypnotic313
@hypnotic313 Ай бұрын
Each of the main girls represents something the rudy has to come to learn Sylphie - Compassion (for other / yourself) and Understanding Roxy - Knowledge and Exploration Eris - Strength and Loyalty
@mattersondoom
@mattersondoom 2 ай бұрын
So refreshing and satisfying to watch someone who understands this well the characters and the world of this series, without the need to read the LN you undarstand it all. Well exept that Sarah didn't cause rudeus ED, that was Eris
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
Or Eris who is not trying to become the strongest swordswoman to take her kingdom back 💀💀
@mattersondoom
@mattersondoom 2 ай бұрын
@@ShiNijuuAKL true 🤣
@mikeluna2026
@mikeluna2026 2 ай бұрын
I have to say my favorites are Roxy and Eris (in that order). But, you are wrong about Sylphie. A lot of her story got cut in the anime. If you've read the light novel you know Sylphie (as Fitz) has fought off and killed a lot of assassins (both while staying at the castle and while traveling to Sharia). Ariel's trip to Sharia was a huge ordeal (they sent assassins to try to off her at Asura's border). She left with around 12 retainers, but only 4 people reached Sharia alive. Sylphie will later have some chances to fight again, but she does become one of the main pillars of the household so it's not that often (but she can switch to brave and skilled fighter when needed). Though, I guess her dreams ARE more like a traditional girl's compared to Roxy (marry and become a teacher) and Eris (fight with her sword and bang).
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
Eris dreams are not to fight, her dreams are to be equal partner with Rudeus 💀💀 she fights because that's literally the only thing she can do. It is not different from Sylphie except for the fact that Eris CAN'T do anything else
@mikeluna2026
@mikeluna2026 2 ай бұрын
@@ShiNijuuAKL Well, once she becomes a sword king she pretty much already accomplished being equal to Rudeus. And I mean more like what she generally wants of life? (in the light novel she later says something like: as long as I can use my sword and make babies with Rudeus, then I'm happy/content).
@Lickicker
@Lickicker Ай бұрын
Ya i wouldnt say giving a female character realistic female goals is a bad thing. Not everyone has to have dreams of being the strongest. Sylphie is just alot more modest than the others, she wants a family but doesnt need to prove anything to have it. You can totally have a family and still improve yourself, there not mutually exclusive.
@syewh
@syewh Ай бұрын
The thing about Sylphy is that she spent most of her time attached to Rudues since their first encouter as children. She was raised and loved by his family, she even got her perverted thoughts and actions from Lillia (lmao), but the point is Sylphy's attachement to Rudeus is understandable, because she feels as if they were family. She didn't get as much building for her character, but we do know for sure how attached she was to the Buena Village, to her parents and potentially Rudeus's too, too a point were she had a breakdown once Nanahoshi revealed she was responsible for that. The calmest most loving and softest character snapped that bad, for maybe the first part of her life. I think this alone is enough of a highlight to Sylphy as a character, even tho she isn't the most complex, the one with the best building nor the one with the greatest actions, she was and still the best supporting character to Rudy since day one. Since he proved how he can change to protect her from bullies, till the day were she helped him through his OD But in the end Eris 🔛🔝
@Garvant_
@Garvant_ 2 ай бұрын
Agreed with everything except sylphie her pov chapters in the LN are so good shes probably my favorite female character
@silasnebulous4533
@silasnebulous4533 2 ай бұрын
And after that she gets irrelevant, her character was written into a corner.
@Shwooomp
@Shwooomp 2 ай бұрын
@@silasnebulous4533 HUH? Do you actually pay attention to the novel? Their story and development are literally equal. -Roxy for the labyrinth arc -Eris for tp4 -Sylphie for asura coup -Roxy again with shirone kingdom -Sylphie again with the divine continent -and lastly eris for gathering final battle allies All of them are used beatifully by rifujin, there's no wasted character in MT. that's the reason why this series is goated.
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 2 ай бұрын
Bro, that shot of Paul making that face just made be _instantly_ tear up. He' genuinely one of the best characters in anything ever, and he isn't even the best one in Mushoku Tensei. This series is so fucking stacked with incredible characters
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Those first 10 episodes being slow has paid off so much in the long run
@user-zl1vf4me1p
@user-zl1vf4me1p 2 ай бұрын
Sylphy has more self respect than any female character I've seen in an isekai. Now whether that helped her out or not is another thing 💀 God I want so bad an Oshi no Ko type 1 hour 30 min special for second cour season 3 I NEED THAT
@tensazangetsu465
@tensazangetsu465 Ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei did harem/Polygamy the rigth way it showed the complications it can bring into a relationship and how it can impact the integrity of a family
@macready84
@macready84 2 ай бұрын
he... he watched season 2 ep 0 right?
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
I think he closed his eyes every time Sylphie was on screen or something
@dariocostta
@dariocostta 2 ай бұрын
(Spoilers) Yes, Sylph kinda feel less deep in the anime until now, but in the novels we have a lot more of hers internal monologues that full it up and made her the best girl. She thinks of being a greater mage or standing to continue as a guard or conquering dungeons. She acknowledge all of that, she knows she is capable. However she look to Rudeus and in the future again to her daughter, than decide that they need her more, and she can be happy being ""just the mom"" (what is honored alone). Sometimes it hurts her, yes, but until the beginning of Book 26, where I'm, she is happy, and play a vital role. She is so precious.
@dawidwojacki5049
@dawidwojacki5049 Ай бұрын
Eris being a true protagonist of Mushoku Tensei is one heck of a conspiracy theory
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish Ай бұрын
Not that she is just that she could be
@SuperHeroKevin.
@SuperHeroKevin. Ай бұрын
The Creatur is a fuck*ng Mastermind He wrote the Webnovel in 2,5y i mean yeah he make a big plan with map and plot etc before release the webnovel
@dbuy3
@dbuy3 2 ай бұрын
Sylphie > ALL
@IcyNinjaJ
@IcyNinjaJ 2 ай бұрын
L take Eris is best-girl Eris > Roxy > Sylphie
@bagel_remover8945
@bagel_remover8945 2 ай бұрын
@@IcyNinjaJ Check out the source material :)
@baovirus
@baovirus 2 ай бұрын
​@@IcyNinjaJ *ERIS IS A GIRL?*
@Hetsu..
@Hetsu.. 2 ай бұрын
@@IcyNinjaJ ew eris
@SnerMerNer
@SnerMerNer 2 ай бұрын
100%. Sylphie is best
@TamuSmann
@TamuSmann Ай бұрын
In the anime, Silphie’s character missed out on her most important arc because it was just glossed over between episodes. They did her dirty. The anime needed to do a stand alone episode ‘Silphie - Assassin Killer’ that should have matched the ‘Eris - Goblin Hunter’ episode. (And while they are at it, a ‘Roxy - Dungeon Diver’ episode wouldn’t hurt.) … This would have made her a badass in her own right, as a unique character with her own story lines and strengths. But that was skipped, so she comes off as a one note character. That being said… Eris is “Best Girl”.
@alittleofsomething
@alittleofsomething Ай бұрын
Paul literally DIED while trying to save his wife and Rudeus. He's loyal no question.
@l30nard03
@l30nard03 2 ай бұрын
Mushoku Tensei has the best character writing and development period. More so in the light novel. Nice video 👌🏽
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Nice comment
@TheOrphanDeity
@TheOrphanDeity Ай бұрын
I will never forgive Eris from stealing the only thing Rudeus has in his past life: His virginity
@jaqromani
@jaqromani 28 күн бұрын
keep this videos coming you're so goated king
@elchido557
@elchido557 Ай бұрын
I think you forgot about the whole Sylphie Asura thing in 2 years
@MantuuSoba
@MantuuSoba 2 ай бұрын
Brooo ur so under rated
@jamesrosengrant8675
@jamesrosengrant8675 Ай бұрын
One of the main issues with Sylfie is she's completed almost all of her character arc before we even see her again. All that was left for her was to tell rudy whats up, besides that she already succeeded in everything else she wanted
@goodluqx
@goodluqx 2 ай бұрын
Well said! I have not seen any other anime with such depth written into their characters like MT, so it takes the #1 spot in my heart (other than Gurren Lagann). Best 2 years of my life getting myself invested in the LN :)
@tylerd.1
@tylerd.1 2 ай бұрын
Of course that Mushoku Tensei has the best female characters, Mushoku Tensei has the best characters in general PERIOD. Everybody in this show, down to the one shot background characters, feels like actual people not characters. It’s sometimes scary how every realistic and true to the world the characters feel, when I watch this show I feel like a god spectating on a real world that exists somewhere, far, far away. Absolute peak show, infinite out of 10, please give this show a chance without any bias or prejudice with your own opinions and worldviews
@Doggysaregood-n3w
@Doggysaregood-n3w Ай бұрын
When you say best characters do you mean by like all of anime?
@Doggysaregood-n3w
@Doggysaregood-n3w Ай бұрын
Or fiction?
@tylerd.1
@tylerd.1 Ай бұрын
@@Doggysaregood-n3w off of the top of my head, I can’t think of any characters that are on the same level as MT but I will say MT has the best characters in all of anime just incase to stay humble
@Doggysaregood-n3w
@Doggysaregood-n3w Ай бұрын
@@tylerd.1you can say all of anime that you have seen because there’s no way you’ve watched every anime and if you have you have my respect for sticking to the grind
@Deadlychuck84
@Deadlychuck84 2 ай бұрын
Aisha's "loyalty" was even down played in the anime lol I won't deny or confirm what you said about Eris, only that you'd be asking a lot to fit in any character's reintroduction with how few episodes are left in season 2. There's really no rush, since they're not even quite at the half way point in the whole story. Sylphy's growth kinda happened outside of Rudy's purview and as a result didn't get nearly as much time on screen in the anime. With her growth mostly centering around Ariel. You probably won't get much more either, because iirc most of it was shown from that chapter was adapted as S2E0.
@justapitchblack2500
@justapitchblack2500 2 ай бұрын
Bro watched 5 animes (all shounen) and think that mushoku has the best cast 😂 what a bullshit Dont get me wrong, i like mushoku but stop being delusional dude, its nowhere near being the best female cast in anime
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Which is the best
@kletowolf7104
@kletowolf7104 Ай бұрын
@@ItzzKish re zero
@Wyattgonzo1
@Wyattgonzo1 2 ай бұрын
I think curing Rudy's ED is a big defining character moment😂
@kurimiaisukurimu
@kurimiaisukurimu 2 ай бұрын
It unironically was
@ykcasual
@ykcasual Ай бұрын
disagree, they are just tropes that existed long enough to the writer to give enough care to develop them instead of introducing new characters to progress the plot. No1 can convince me that sylph and elinalise were not planned to be throwaway characters.
@amonzi8646
@amonzi8646 Ай бұрын
brooo this guy is gonna blow up so underrated lol not even tryna glaze
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish Ай бұрын
glazer
@QuantumPineapple
@QuantumPineapple 2 ай бұрын
Underrated channel. Great commentary and editing. I subscribed keep up the good work!
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish Ай бұрын
Thanks boss
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
1:04 do people really forget who Eris is? like... bro, after reading her POV I love her, she is very lovely, but she has no brains 💀like 0, she can't be no main character. 2:02 This is actually something Rudeus says in the LN after he saves Roxy: "I wasn’t particularly special, but Roxy was certainly an amazing person. So what if she lost to her pupil in a few narrow categories? That was no indicator of her value as a person." 3:01 just like Eris, it took a while for Erist to like Rudeus 3:56 what about Orsted? And btw, they skipped what Sara did after Rudeus left. If was adapted in a manga (separated from the main one) 8:25 bro you don't need to lie this much about Eris to say she is cool 😂 10:31 Look, I will give you a little bit the benefit of the doubt because the anime as skipped a lot of her characterization. First, here are the reason why as an anime only you should know this is not true: - she has a goal of her own, she is literally helping Ariel right now to take the kingdom. - Sylphie spent 2 years with Rudeus before getting separated from him, then she grew independent from Rudeus to the point that during the whole academy arc it was her who Rudeus always went to ask for advice. - As a 10yo kid Sylphie protected Ariel from dangerous assasins and still works as her guardian. - She even has a fashion sense now from hanging with the princess and that why she is the one who picked Rudeus new robe Now from what was skipped from the LN (things that should've been adapted this season): - Rudeus ask her if she would leave Ariel should he ask, and Sylphie says she would probably leave him because Ariel needs her and Rudeus would be ok without her. - She is able to kill when she needs to, that assasin you saw on episode 0 got all of her limbs severed when Sylphie attacked her, Sylphie is very deadly and doesn't hold back like Rudeus. - The whole travel from Asura to Sharia was skipped, Sylphie had to deal with constant attacks from assasins and she killed a lot of them, being the strongest ally from Ariel - She is the one who made Ariel president of the student council in the academy. Linia and Pursena were harrasing Ariel so Sylphie got mad and formulated a plan to beat them and use that to improve Ariel's standing. They baited a public attack from the beast girls, Sylphie got hit by the vocal magic from Pursena but was able to recover (something Rudeus wasn't capable of) and beat Linia, Pursena and 20 of their lackeys easily. This achievement was given to Ariel who used this to become the student council president in her second year which was unprecedented, if it wasn't for that, Ariel would've to wait until at least her fourth year. Meanwhile, you can check Eris POV, her whole world is just Rudeus, not sure how you got your interpretation from what we see in the anime but if you want confirmation just check her POV. Eris' entire existence depends on Rudeus, there's nothing deep there. If Sylphie doesn't have a goal of her own, then for sure Eris doesn't either 😂😂 With this video I'm noticing some extreme bias, everything from Eris is shown and interpreted incredibly charitable while Sylphie is interpreted extremely uncharitable. And this is not a problem of not having context from the novels, even just seeing from the anime's pov, you are extremely charitable to Eris character to the point of making shit up in your mind of what her characters is about, while completely ignoring everything you have seen from Sylphie and dismissing her. 10:39 I mean... how can you say that she is just "there"... when Rudeus spent so much time asking her for advice... You remember that Eris was literally just extra baggage during the whole journey right? Which was the whole reason why she left Rudeus. 10:53 I think her character defining moment was when at 10yo she was basically forced to become the guardian of a princess from the greatest nation, becoming her strongest ally and protect her from assasins instead of being extra baggage for Rudeus to take care of. 11:06 How about ending the mc whole depression arc? What were Eris moments? stop being braindead? Crying? Causing the depression arc? 😂 As you might've find out from the comments, the Anime butchered a lot of great characterization for the female characters. Mostly everything from Elinalise. Ariel's whole personality got butchered. Zenith POV, Sara POV, etc. I'm honestly impressed of how people can like Eris this much when her POV which was rushed in the anime makes her a waaaaay better. From what we got from the anime I honestly don't know how anyone could see her as more than just a trained animal, maybe is because not having the POV allows you to invent what's going on with her or something like that Edit: Just to be clear, I'm on team Roxy, same age as Rudeus, completely independent character from the start
@c-boagames261
@c-boagames261 Ай бұрын
He said he's an anime only. In the anime it seems like Eris wants to get stronger for a mix of two reasons. Rudeus and revenge for her parents, aka taking her kingdom back. Worded poorly, but I got what he meant. But I am on the same train as you that on a whole, Sylphie is a way better character than Eris. Eris is the stereotypical anime female out of any of them, except that she is stronger than the typical damsel in distress. She relies on Rudeus for literally everything else. (I'm team Sylphie, she's literally the best.)
@Syvtek
@Syvtek Ай бұрын
@@c-boagames261 Anime only here. I never once got the impression that Eris was motivated to "retake her Kingdom". It's been apparent since her introduction that nobility meant little to her. What did mean a lot to her was who she admired and respected. Once she accepts someone she seems fiercely loyal and will damn well make sure everyone else knows how great they are as well. We see this in S1 when she makes it clear to Rudy how great Sauros and Ghislaine are. After Rudy becomes important to her she does not stop singing his praises to anyone who will listen either (as cliff found out).
@c-boagames261
@c-boagames261 Ай бұрын
@@Syvtek I guess that’s fair. But it also does kinda seem like she wants revenge(At least at one point). However she definitely doesn’t anymore and just wants to be on equal footing with Rudues
@Syvtek
@Syvtek Ай бұрын
@@c-boagames261 Her Grandfather was basically murdered and this is Eris afterall. If she got the chance to kill those involved I Think only Rudeus could stop that. I only disagreed with restoring the kingdom as a motive.
@JorgeMedina-kx8dq
@JorgeMedina-kx8dq Ай бұрын
The quality of your videos man! You’re going to grow as a channel, 100%
@nicholasfigueiredo3171
@nicholasfigueiredo3171 Ай бұрын
Bro princess Ariel could have a story of her own too. This show is just too real
@jrmiles73
@jrmiles73 2 ай бұрын
You need to read the novels. I’m only on novel 16 but it fills so many holes the anime just leaves around for no reason. Especially the bonus chapters that follow the side characters povs
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
What’s best place to read them
@SlowV6Mustang
@SlowV6Mustang 2 ай бұрын
While you're on the LN I would highly recommend reading through Eris's manga, it goes over the events that happen after S1 and the trauma she has from witnessing Orsted kill Rudeus. Reading through it made me like Eris even more as a character and it kinda made me understand a bit more why she left Rudeus in S1.
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 2 ай бұрын
You are wrong about Sylphy, but sadly its because the anime misstreated her so much, we didnt see her at all in season 1 and now in season two her character and Story got Reduced to just being the perfect wife or something, Sylphy is actually more deep than you think, the fact that she is so Loyal to Rudeus does not come from nothing.
@mattersondoom
@mattersondoom 2 ай бұрын
Yeah she's more deep in the LN but unlike Roxy or Eris, she doesn have personal goals or dreams unless is just be with rudeus. Yeah she also want's to help Ariel. But she's always following someone, rather rudeus or Ariel.
@ShiNijuuAKL
@ShiNijuuAKL 2 ай бұрын
It is true that the anime butchered a lot of Sylphie (and to be fair, Eris POV was rushed too). But honestly there has to be a bias here. You can't say that Sylphie is "just there" when Rudeus kept asking her for advice through cour 1. Even in the anime Sylphie is a complete independent character who hoenstly did much more than Eris ever did, and the difference between little bullied Sylphie and Guardian Fitz is insane
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 2 ай бұрын
@@mattersondoom She is a Mom LOL, suddenly that is not a goal, she wants to take cate of her family because that is the most important to her, i dont agree eith her not having goals, building a family is an honorable one.
@mattersondoom
@mattersondoom 2 ай бұрын
@@KyonSOSBrigad3 yeah an honorable and boring one. She's a great parthner to rudues, their relationship is beatifull. But by her self she's the least interesting character. Even sarah was more interesting
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 2 ай бұрын
@@mattersondoom i totally disagree, no way Sarah is more interesting,
@goldfishgamingwastaken
@goldfishgamingwastaken Ай бұрын
When I check your channel I was expecting at least a couple thousands subs, good vid you deserve more!
@greninjaaaaaaa
@greninjaaaaaaa 16 күн бұрын
Sylphy actually has soo much to her, that people unfortunately dont think about because of just how easy it is for people to just correlate her with trashy yes-girls that act similar to how she does, without thinking much about it. If eris hadnt been showed from the start to the finish, it wouldhave happened with her too. But trust me on this, every scene we have seen sylphy in(or Not seen sylphy in, but the writing is so impeccable that out brains can just fill up the spaces of the life she spent in asura), has in some way or another affected her development process. Every character in this show has had a lot of developmental issues, like most real life people have too. Lilia fucked up her child, the displacement incident fucked up norn, sylphy and so many other characters. Those were clearly shown in the anime. You have seen how sylphy has become, to the point that people have literally raged for an hour about how the writer RUINED her character. But those developmental issues were clearly shown in the anime!, and YOU were the one who either didnt notice them, or saw and ignored them because "its a EscApiST fantaSy aNimE mAde for mALeS sO iT pOssiBLY caN't go that deep, right?" and still expected her to be perfect. It was a child, in a fantasy story, and it still affected you so much to rage over it. Imagine that being your child, that's precisely how developmental issues work. Things that happen around a child changes their character even though it may look insignificant to you. We are just seeing it being fast forwarded, instead of waiting like 10 years to see that. Remember that paul sent rudeus to sharia because he didnt want sylphy to have her developmental issues? Well she solved some, some remained, some new ones she developed after that. The abrupt displacement incident fucked it up too. She spent HALF of her life away from her parents, or the people she grew up with till that point. Found out that her parents were dead, her homeland was no more. Growing up in a fucked up noble's environment in a medieval world. Mental issues, yup. No character in this series has had a perfect developmental phase, hence, nobody is perfect. Mushoku tensei DOES go that deep.
@MilkIsActuallyOP
@MilkIsActuallyOP 2 ай бұрын
The only thing i can think of when i think about the main female mc in mushoku tensei is just *starter pokemon* 💀
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Bro💀
@thegrayninja2257
@thegrayninja2257 2 ай бұрын
That wild💀
@Ravioli638
@Ravioli638 2 ай бұрын
It true tho…
@hudsonball4702
@hudsonball4702 Ай бұрын
I won't spoil you. But as someone who has seen what's in the LN's, Sylphy WILL get her time to shine and be bad ass too. Probably not in season 3, but most likely in season 4.
@esko6878
@esko6878 2 ай бұрын
If you have a problem with some characters being underdeveloped I highly recommend reading novels up to the current point the anime ends (volume 12). The anime cut off like 90% of Sylphie's development and lots of others too.
@Andrew-hm8no
@Andrew-hm8no Ай бұрын
This show really is the show that proves you can like characters that do unlikeable things. So many of these characters do wrong things, Rudeus is a perv, Lilia seduced Paul, Paul is a cheater, Roxy uses Rudeus's depression to get with him, Eris is a bitchy tsundere, Sylphie played around for 4 fucking months before confessing, Einalese was a whore. And yet Rudeus is one of my favorite mc's in anime, Roxy is one of my favorite characters in general in anime, and just about all the other characters are still likeable despite some of their actions. It's honestly incredible. A lot of the characters change. Einalese, Rudeus, and Eris all change, Rudeus and Eris especially in a very natural-feeling way. Roxy did it to get Rudeus out of a deep depression that could've legit killed him. Sure, not all of their actions change or are justifiable, but somehow mushoku makes it so that doesn't even matter.
@beige_projection
@beige_projection Ай бұрын
I agree. the women in this anime are incredible. In S2 episode 22, when Rudy and the rest came back from the Labyrinth, Lilia, despite being devastated herself about what happened, gritted her teeth and stood strong for Rudy. Hugged him and told him to rest and that she will take care of things. She's one of the female characters that fulfill a traditional female role i.e. house choirs, being very feminine, wife material, etc, but she's a very strong character. She's proof that you don't always need to give your female character a sword and make her badass in combat in order to make her into a strong female character.
@garetht1236
@garetht1236 18 күн бұрын
Rudeus havving ED is his own issues, not that fault of Eris or any other girl. Bro needed to work on himself
@LoliPolice-bf7mw
@LoliPolice-bf7mw 2 ай бұрын
Why is anyone even arguing about this? Ghislaine best girl obviously.
@Austintatious1096
@Austintatious1096 2 ай бұрын
Nah, Orsted is best girl.
@thatscrazy-kq3mk
@thatscrazy-kq3mk 2 ай бұрын
@@Austintatious1096agreed
@mungerman04
@mungerman04 Ай бұрын
Hitogami best girl??!?!?!!?
@darrinz9605
@darrinz9605 2 ай бұрын
im not trying to be toxic but try apothecary diaries youll see why i love her and think maow maow is best female charater
@childcannibalism5080
@childcannibalism5080 2 ай бұрын
watched it nice, great female character, but MT has some better one imho.
@darrinz9605
@darrinz9605 2 ай бұрын
weird says i have a reply but nothings there?
@childcannibalism5080
@childcannibalism5080 Ай бұрын
@@darrinz9605 I said MT has some better females characters... So it got deleted off KZfaq???
@bynflew8552
@bynflew8552 2 ай бұрын
I do. I do want to see the arguement about Paul
@Shinigami00Azael
@Shinigami00Azael 2 ай бұрын
Nah, it's not bad, but women in Mushoku are too perfect. Frieren and Apothecary Diaries are way better at showing real women behaviour xd
@Shinigami00Azael
@Shinigami00Azael 16 күн бұрын
@@SimonWoodburyForget We are not talking about normal people, we are talking about women acting like women. You can 100% be interesting because of the circumstances you are in even if you act normal.
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 7 күн бұрын
I dont think they are perfect at all, all of them are flawed asf
@Shinigami00Azael
@Shinigami00Azael 7 күн бұрын
@@KyonSOSBrigad3 Too close to perfect? I do not think that they do not have flaws, just that they are too accommodating.
@21clife27
@21clife27 Ай бұрын
Is interesting for me how the autor uses norn to take us back to reality, at least in the main light novels. Norn, been a faithful follower of Millis (which resembles in many aspects the morals of the occidental society) I think is used by the autor in many moments of glory and shame of rudeus, to remind us that his actions and thoughs are actually very questionable; and yet we found them funny and we are happy when he succeeds in his schemes. The autor risks getting us out of the fantasy setting, and yet is nice having those reflections as we watch and/or read.
@itro3118
@itro3118 2 ай бұрын
good video but who tf is "aromy" from bleach ( 5:00 ).. its Orihime gng 😭😭
@DillanDitcham-bd7mj
@DillanDitcham-bd7mj 7 күн бұрын
Pretty good take, apart from the anime doing silphy so dirty and completely making shit up for eris. I mean eris doesn't give a shit about Retaking fittoa. And her wanting to be the strongest sword fighter is really only so she can protect Rudy.
@Archexo
@Archexo 2 ай бұрын
most underrated commentary channel
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Most underrated comment
@SuperHeroKevin.
@SuperHeroKevin. Ай бұрын
Aisha is Smart Sylph is MOMMY thats my Fav
@EdvinSwagMeow
@EdvinSwagMeow Ай бұрын
Eris goes so hard in the LN!
@eindrake8418
@eindrake8418 Ай бұрын
Very well put together and argumented video. I enjoyed it. I'm curious if you've seen season 2 episode 0 like others have asked as well. From my point of view it really shows Silphye as her own character.
@dragonmaster951753
@dragonmaster951753 Ай бұрын
Sylphie is well written for being diverse among the cast. For eris to really shine she has to have that type of journey solo. You can't have every other female character doing that too. Sylphie is the timid childhood friend and like reality, she doesn't have goals cause not everyone does. Some people just coast along and build friendships along the way and that's what she does. I'm not saying she's a better character than the others but I don't think she was poorly written cause she fits what she's suppose to do. Be a strong base for Rudy that he never had before. Like she's down solid for him and while that goes against the boss queen narrative, if we're giving women options to do anything than being a support system to a man should be allowed even if it's boring. Cause it is. But boring and consistent is loved by some people
@hmmm..668
@hmmm..668 2 ай бұрын
Hehe about slyphie.... Im not gonna spoil but... She's not that attached to rudeus. Hehe😊
@childcannibalism5080
@childcannibalism5080 2 ай бұрын
She is, just a good realistic limit.
@sankro
@sankro 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Though I feel like you missed out by not also talking about Nanohoshi.
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
In my last MT video i talked about nanahoshi for awhile so wanted to switch it up
@ericbunker6242
@ericbunker6242 2 ай бұрын
​@@ItzzKishplus Nanahoshi is a friend, not a main squeeze like Red, White, and Blue.
@utsavaryan4130
@utsavaryan4130 2 ай бұрын
​@@ItzzKisheverything was good but I disagree on sylphy's point I don't know if you are anime only or ln reader but in the ln there's much more for sylphy. And for her goal there is and a very big which changes a major thing in future so if you are anime only then you just have to wait for like s5 or s6
@davidkelvon7936
@davidkelvon7936 Ай бұрын
1:02 YES FINALY! A KZfaqr that gets the greatness that is Eris.
@rozen2129
@rozen2129 2 ай бұрын
One of the reason Paul sent Rudy away was to separate sylphie from him because he saw how much she was depending on Rudy so by that I'm assuming she was meant to be like that if that makes sense
@zzpixel4861
@zzpixel4861 2 ай бұрын
Frierens female cast is just better. The author of of mishoku tensie writes women like he hasn't seen one in his life. You obviously make good points but the fact that you're a man commenting on the quality of a female character weakens your argument.
@MrMixfits
@MrMixfits Ай бұрын
Arguments please
@KyonSOSBrigad3
@KyonSOSBrigad3 7 күн бұрын
LMAOOOOOO, Good characters are good characters period LOL
@zzpixel4861
@zzpixel4861 6 күн бұрын
@@KyonSOSBrigad3 the argument brought up in the video isn’t arguing that Mishoku Tensei has a good female cast, it’s arguing they are some of the best in anime. I’m giving perspective to this argument and explaining that as a woman, the manner in which many of the female cast has been depicted makes me feel uncomfortable. I personally feel like a show in the similar genre, frieren, gives depth to female characters in a less sexualized manner, I do think though on the emotion side of things, mishoku tensie far surpasses emotional depicted within all their cast, Frierens characters are rather apathetic. Anyways still love mishoku tensei as a show.
@7onitee708
@7onitee708 2 ай бұрын
Just wait and see for sylphie, no character ins this show disappoints, even her
@cliffthiel1666
@cliffthiel1666 2 ай бұрын
i would say sylphies simpish ways has allot to do with her childhood trauma, she grew up with no friends being bullied by every kid in the village until roxy got rudeus to get out of the house where rudeus was the first and only kid that defended her. in sylphy's eyes rudeus will allways be a hero figure that she will want to please, kinda like how every child grows up never wanting to let their parents down or be ashamed.
@conocosz
@conocosz 2 ай бұрын
I am a Mushoku Tensei shill, but yeah definitely not lmfao...
@jax1670
@jax1670 2 ай бұрын
About Sylphy: Yea her moment to step up is coming up, it just involves a lot of buildup to that point and I mean A LOT of buildup
@Peter-mt6sg
@Peter-mt6sg 2 ай бұрын
actually im not sure if it was skipped or not in the anime but paul married lilia i didnt read the ln but i think that symbolizes how much commitment paul has to the ones he loves so yeah paul is great
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Yea I think skipped because I didn’t know they were married I do think it was implied
@Carter547
@Carter547 2 ай бұрын
Monogataei female cast better
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Haven’t watched
@spectrophobia4042
@spectrophobia4042 2 ай бұрын
You are gonna love norn in the upcomking video. Unless they cut her part if norns rant gets cut im going to riot
@vekazu_is_great_guy
@vekazu_is_great_guy Ай бұрын
Still kinda funny how so many people started hating eris just because of what she did at the end of s1 like they never saw S1 and only an out of context clip of the ending
@davelabaton8901
@davelabaton8901 Ай бұрын
Ariel is the most distorted character there actually. It's got a reason tho, and her bad characteristics not actually harmful to the society so its okay
@alexandrevela746
@alexandrevela746 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I'm surprise how this channel only have 600 subscribers. +1 subscriber
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@FCBayernMunichFCBM
@FCBayernMunichFCBM 2 ай бұрын
​@@ItzzKish Your video is good but not many people know about it + 1 like and subscribe
@porky1118
@porky1118 2 ай бұрын
10:25 A woman, who is really commited to me would be the best woman I could think of. It's not like he abuses her trust or like she let's him get away with anything.
@darkrising8280
@darkrising8280 2 ай бұрын
one piece is the only series that feels like the women are written by actual women. They feel organic and respected. If you can’t get over the exaggerated bodies then just keep it moving
@abnrml5452
@abnrml5452 2 ай бұрын
fym, it''s obv overflow 😭. But tbh for an anime to have the "best" female charters you need to see that charter as a charter without a gender first or view it the same way we do male charters. I like it better when female charters are just like regular people, the biggest trope in anime I hate is like overly horny female charters for no reasons. I'm saying this isnt true for "Mushoku Tensei" but I feel as if other anime do it better
@bonked9426
@bonked9426 Ай бұрын
I'm one of those people who don't like Mushoku Tensei primarily because how the author cooked the final encounter with a certain dragon god, they ruined it for me. But I have to admit, Mushoku does make Isekai and Harem with a perverted protagonist two of the most bullied genre and one of the most despised character trope in the whole Anime industry look good and I respect them for it.
@leoncantwelliii7946
@leoncantwelliii7946 Ай бұрын
Correction, Konosuba has the best female characters in anime. I will fight you on this.
@vertex3243
@vertex3243 Ай бұрын
bro never watched the monogatari series
@jetcode504
@jetcode504 2 ай бұрын
Bros never watched monogatari
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Nah I haven’t
@RealBunnyWalker
@RealBunnyWalker 2 ай бұрын
I think youre really not looking at Sylfie's character enough, just as you were talking i was thinking up counters to every point you had it feels like youre only looking at the surface level and what is directly shown and stated in regards to her character. Even in that regard there are still several things being overlooked.
@Geaxuce
@Geaxuce Ай бұрын
I like sylphy as a character. Sure shes kind of plain but in a world that is always epic, i feel like her character gives us some level of grounding. Like, not everyone wants to be the best or live the most exciting life. She just wants a simple life with a family. Personally, i think thats completely fine. The female problem in most anime is that the female characters tend to act like theyve gotten stronger only to be knocked down again and pretty much just giving up. They goals and character plots tend to be pretty much cookie cutter. Thats my opinion at least
@fredericschubert8639
@fredericschubert8639 2 ай бұрын
Is it with spoilers?
@BrickDaniels-qu7bz
@BrickDaniels-qu7bz Ай бұрын
Listen. Eris would be best girl if it wasn't for the first wife, Sylphie. She has her moments too.
@Abhishek-hd4pp
@Abhishek-hd4pp 2 ай бұрын
Looks like someone has watched like 5 animes....
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish 2 ай бұрын
Ayo
@dopeman4ever
@dopeman4ever 2 ай бұрын
Go watch the white mask episode again. The rage Sylphie showed there was one of the best parts of the whole season
@ShneekeyTheLost
@ShneekeyTheLost Ай бұрын
Aisha turning out like Eris? Hmm... not really. Although she develop a connection with Eris's son, so there's that. >.> | .
@alphaismywife6518
@alphaismywife6518 2 ай бұрын
You just found out that. Adult Eris and the other upcoming characters are great too.
@DaReal_Magic
@DaReal_Magic 2 ай бұрын
There are so many well written female characters. Elinalise is top tier. They cut way to much interactions between her and Rudy during the trip to begaritt. Princess Ariel is top tier as well. She is planing everything like a mastermind and she is really caring about her friends. She helped Sylphie out a lot of times and not because for her own benefit. Sylphie is the definition of a dream wife and she has incredible fighting abiliteis. Most of them got cut in the Anime, since they skipped the story where Ariel, Luke Fitz and a larger group of companions travelled to the Academy. they also Skipped the first 3 years of Ariel and how Fitz punished the bully gang that was led by Linia and Pursena. Roxy is very good as well and i think there are grat things to come with her. She just needs more screen time but the things we have seen from her so far are very good. Eris Character developement is absolutely fantastic. Just compare her from her first apperance to the end of Season 1 (not the part where she left Rudy)
@CRescentnoodles7
@CRescentnoodles7 2 ай бұрын
honestly… 1. Roxy 2. Eris 3. Sylphie this is fact
@user-du9cq9ew7e
@user-du9cq9ew7e Ай бұрын
1. Orsted ... other
@CRescentnoodles7
@CRescentnoodles7 Ай бұрын
@@user-du9cq9ew7e ah yes my apologies
@mungerman04
@mungerman04 Ай бұрын
That is just not true ever. 1. Sylphie 2. Sylphie 3. Sylphie 4. Eris + Roxy
@CRescentnoodles7
@CRescentnoodles7 Ай бұрын
@@mungerman04 oh hell nah
@siddhantchauhan1975
@siddhantchauhan1975 2 ай бұрын
I’m not a light novel reader but I have watched videos on skipped chapters and holy shit it feels every character is the main character of the show. The characters are shitty but complex and thus makes interesting.
@mungerman04
@mungerman04 Ай бұрын
Fitz clears all women in fiction.
@holdeenyo8914
@holdeenyo8914 2 ай бұрын
I can forgive your take on sylphie since you're an anime only. However, anyone who's read the LN knows sylphy plays an important role in the story
@spencersholden
@spencersholden Ай бұрын
6:26 why does Norm have a megaphone?
@ItzzKish
@ItzzKish Ай бұрын
I have no idea lol
@roofg7304
@roofg7304 29 күн бұрын
ln vol 18 explains
@saxenaarnav2001
@saxenaarnav2001 Ай бұрын
no don't do that to my boy asta😭😭 altho agreed lmao
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