Why NO CONTACT with the avoidant is critical

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Coach Ryan

Coach Ryan

Күн бұрын

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@jahzah3934
@jahzah3934 2 ай бұрын
Moral of the story go no contact on any past significant other that has disrespected you and undermined your worth, simple.
@aquastone5870
@aquastone5870 2 ай бұрын
In that case you'll be alone the rest of your life! Truth is to love is to live and forgive
@Genci-sj5qt
@Genci-sj5qt 2 ай бұрын
​@@aquastone5870 so you should accept their disrespect? Id rather be alone..
@jahzah3934
@jahzah3934 2 ай бұрын
@@aquastone5870 I would rather be alone. Ke than allow a person from the past who is disrespectful and tries come back into my life as if they’re entering a revolving door. There is abundance in the world and if I’m a secure person I’m sure there are others out there. Why settle for something emotionally jarring? It’s called having self worth. Also da’s rarely change so if you want to continue to minimize yourself and accommodate the da unhealthiness be my guest.
@Ahicksaf
@Ahicksaf 2 ай бұрын
​@@aquastone5870 Disrespect = No Love
@irfangumelar5404
@irfangumelar5404 Ай бұрын
We can still love others that respect us and cut off who they don't.
@lynneakalynno
@lynneakalynno 28 күн бұрын
The point of no contact is to start focussing on yourself not to punish them. Retract your energy and redirect it back onto yourself. You need to take back your power For yourself. I see so many people using it as a tool to get exes back. They've had their chances.. Let them go. You deserve so much better
@KVG822
@KVG822 2 ай бұрын
Your videos have been helping me to accept the situation.
@walkertranger5746
@walkertranger5746 2 ай бұрын
He is great! He is on point and straight forward with a great demeanor
@chelseajackman7730
@chelseajackman7730 2 ай бұрын
Same. He has made my recovery possible and I love him in a non-limerent sense.
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
Same. Every time I feel weak and about to text him, I come back to Coach R.. Saving my dignity.
@thepuffin-ss9ln
@thepuffin-ss9ln 2 ай бұрын
Its rough stuff but the vids help
@ashton1952
@ashton1952 2 ай бұрын
No contact works, even if it doesn't bring them back, it helps you immensely. It's freeing. One's ex has all the time in the world to think about, face and fix their stuff.
@pdubs1408
@pdubs1408 2 ай бұрын
10 years of knowing someone, 7 year relationship ended over a weekend of thought. A discard i would describe as from "outer space". The non answer answers of " i cant give you what you need.. you desver better i need to figure this out on my own" etc. Followed by "i dont want you out of my life, can we be friends?" Did the right thing myself and said if she wants me in her life, she has to contact me first. Going on 5 months of NC. Outdoors and therapy have been extremely helpful. Any questions, happy to answer.
@pdubs1408
@pdubs1408 2 ай бұрын
@dudleylandsberg1747 not disrespectful in anyway. I hope that is not the case with me. This was a 7 year long distance, and only discarded me once I made legitimate goals and plans to relocate. I'd think if that happened to me I'd be physically disgusted. I am sorry that that happened to you and the fact she came back for friendship after the fact. So blind by their selfish behavior, they don't know the damage they are causing. Im in the same boat as you. Zero trust, heads down building the garden for myself and myself only.
@Davecastlez
@Davecastlez 2 ай бұрын
I just want to say thank you for taking the time to help us people that have gone through a break up with an avoidant. It is not easy and it still hurts and im still a bit confused 9 months later, but watching your videos allows me to feel comfort. Thank you.
@kmduarte2005
@kmduarte2005 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s so important that he stresses that no contact shows them, and YOU, that you deserve respect. Remember who you are and don’t let them waste your love or your time.
@sixwestpoint
@sixwestpoint 10 күн бұрын
Sunday night all cuddles, intimacy and absolutely nothing to indicate what was to come. We had spent an amazing weekend together and after 5 months she was still looking at me with eyes that glowed and a smile that made me feel grateful for the love we had found. We had a small disagreement on the Monday not even an argument and it all started. Tuesday this woman was so cold, so emotionless and had completely shut me out 5 days later and where she once melted my heart she had ripped it from my chest and completely turned my life upside down without any remorse and the "I'd like us to stay friends". She had reduced out time together and made it sound like it was nothing to her and that it was all my fault that we had come to this place. Looking back I can see the red flags that she had displayed throughout our time together. We made no plans, cancelling them at the last moment, communication started to fade and she began to spend more time drinking after her work taking longer and longer to return back to me. Also and probably the worst was that she was clearly flirting openly at her work in the bar and quite open with the offers she was getting from other men. There's so much more and I chose to believe I could be enough but thanks to Coach Ryan I understand this was not me, I allowed it, but ultimately this person was emotionally incapable of commitment and loving me. Now I have to heal, that will take time but at least. She broke my heart but she has not broken me!!
@LostInSpace88981
@LostInSpace88981 8 күн бұрын
Huge hugs! Wishing you all the best on your recovery journey 🤗
@TheSnoozeFox
@TheSnoozeFox 8 күн бұрын
similar thing happening to me now, fell in love with my flatmate, few months later I confessed and she said the same, we talked about our future together, getting our own place, travelling, was always intimate. Then she went home for a month came back totally different, would never meet me and she friendzoned me on the weekend while telling me shes banging some other dude. I feel like ending it
@SagalMohammed-ec5pv
@SagalMohammed-ec5pv 3 күн бұрын
@@TheSnoozeFoxif you feel like ending it do that you don’t deserve to be disrespected like that
@TheDarthpaully
@TheDarthpaully 2 ай бұрын
This is such great content. No contact from avoidant my ex has been earth shattering but it’s completely necessary. I was discarded, she had a terrible traumatic childhood and completely shut down on me before she dumped me. Still trying to pick up the pieces of my shattered heart, but this was the second time. Like Coach Ryan said you gotta put in the work and she’s just not. It’s heartbreaking, terrifying, etc. but I stick to my dignity. I don’t care how long it takes and I don’t think I’d take her back anyway. Her loss
@monogamyforever
@monogamyforever 2 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience.. my avoidant ex and I were together for 1.5 years and she had a traumatic childhood too and just behave so different before saying that she needed space to heal and learn how to be alone and then the weeks passed..she wanted to meet me and talk and it was pretty calm conversation just to see each other, later I wanted to do the same and she said she needed the time and space and treat me like I was nothing like punishment attitude or something. Went to no contact and then two months later she was with another guy completely different. So my heart was in pieces because I really believed she needed to be alone. She used to be honest.. it hurts
@marinajones2309
@marinajones2309 2 ай бұрын
100% accurate - I'm speaking through experience. 9 months of no contact and I would have gone on for 9 years coz I love him but I love myself far more. ❤️
@Swiss_Girl
@Swiss_Girl Ай бұрын
Thats what I told him too😊 I love you, but I love myself more❤
@anupamaraianvirai1183
@anupamaraianvirai1183 20 күн бұрын
Should never go back to them after being discarded.
@sandrokozulic113
@sandrokozulic113 2 ай бұрын
My ex left me a month ago after constantly telling me how perfect I am to her and how perfect our relationship is. She has been saying that not only to me but also to our mutual friend and to her parents as well. And then, out of nowhere, she left me over a message saying that she is not capable of being in a relationship. It hurt like hell to be blindsided like that and being ditched like I never meant anything to her. It is only after the breakup that I realized there are various types of attachments and that my ex 1/1 falls under the avoidant type. It is hard not to send her a message and reach out to her but these videos help a great deal.
@TheMechanicalBob
@TheMechanicalBob 2 ай бұрын
Coach Ryan, thank you so much, this is truly your best video so far and I am a fan from the beginning, as you started more or less after I’ve been discarded out of the blue via messenger after a three year relationship. I watch your videos on a daily basis as they help me to process what happened. Thank you for all your work and effort, it truly means a lot and I also like that you startet to interact with your viewers in the comment section 👌🏽 To everyone who has been thrown away like trash from one moment to another: please, keep no contact, reflect on your past relationship, try to be empathetic with your ex and understand their unsealed wounds, focus and work on yourself, get a coach or/and a therapist to support you during that phase, talk to your good friends - I would not have believed ten weeks ago, that I would come to a point to say that everything that happened, did so for a reason and was the best for myself. Let the avoidant go and make their own experiences and preserve your own energy for someone, who truly deserves it and will respect and love you the way, you deserve 🙏🏼 💪🏼
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
What a beautiful comment, I’m in the same boat but 8 weeks in. Staying strong in no contact, even though I miss him terribly. “ Being thrown out like trash” really hits and it’s a needed reminder of why I can’t cave in and contact him. And yes, I’ve come to realize that he came into my life as a lesson I somehow needed to learn, no matter how painful. I see the red flags a mile away and my threshold for poor treatment is nil now. These videos are priceless, as is the community of the discarded. Very grateful.
@fredslayton
@fredslayton Ай бұрын
Just thinking about her makes me feel like I’m drunk. I literally feel so mentally drained like I can’t think straight.
@bendone81
@bendone81 Ай бұрын
That's narcissistic attachment and that's why you and the avoidant are attracted to eachother. Until you with on that you'll keep finding another avoidant to abuse
@fredslayton
@fredslayton Ай бұрын
@@bendone81 You may have misunderstood my comment. I meant the mental strain of caring for an avoidant drains me of every last bit of mental energy. The conversations and closeness she avoids leads me to find closure in the conversations I end up having in my head. Now, the thought of her just exhausts me but I can''t seem to let her go
@karltan9461
@karltan9461 Ай бұрын
​@@fredslaytonThat is because your subconsious understands that the 'reason' is not real. Your conscious brain keeps trying to rationalise the entire situation, and it cant. Self doubt and blame always accompanies - "If only i did this, if only i didnt do that, what if i did X instead of Y ". Understand that the discard is a reflection of the avoidants unhealed childhood wounds, not you. Understand that healthy people do not do this. It is Precisely because you were loving that it happened.
@bryanlewis2279
@bryanlewis2279 26 күн бұрын
It's call cognitive disadence
@gregorystinette8271
@gregorystinette8271 Ай бұрын
If you are in a relationship with an " avoidant " & feel hurt for some reason, it's really your problem, at least in their eyes.
@PB-md3nt
@PB-md3nt 29 күн бұрын
I used to find myself apologizing to her for how she treated me ONLY to try to keep the peace. It's embarrassing in hindsight. She can be someone else's headache. One day she'll realize she pushed away the best thing to happen to her.
@s13283
@s13283 2 ай бұрын
I blocked mine. Because I can’t take him back… it was too painful trying to work with him but he always ran off. I need time to just heal. I’ll unblock him when I’m healed from the relationship. Period. Nothing wrong with blocking someone who has been toying with your emotions
@stylephyles8932
@stylephyles8932 2 ай бұрын
Coach Ryan...I am so thankful for your channel as I have said many times with previous videos - I was discarded in Oct of 2023 after a 3 year relationship over what seemed like a small disagreement to me and it devastated me...I'm still healing and I've been working on myself and learning as much as I can so that I don't put myself in this same situation again...I feel like you really understand personally the hurt and pain that others have experienced. Please know that you are educating and uplifting those that have been blindsided by avoidant behavior...I really appreciate it and have grown as a result your videos - GREAT WORK...Thank you a million times over and please don't stop doing what you do! 🙏 Those that agree - Please send Coach Ryan $Thanks if you can...we all can sense the love and attention in his videos to help and educate.
@CoachRyanH
@CoachRyanH 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it! Truly! Thank you very much, means a lot to me! I’m glad my content has been helpful to you.
@user-dw2gh3bj7o
@user-dw2gh3bj7o 15 күн бұрын
​@@CoachRyanHhi Coach I need one advice if can help me out. I caught my girlfriend sit into another man car. I did No Contact refuse to see her and left her UNRead.after 4 months she came outside my house with a gif. Is it a Mistake I cave in went out to Talk to her.i told her No more Male friends.She said NO Sex she didn't cheat.she said I stress her out with my Terms! Next day she ghosted me and is Day 30 ...she successfully Flip the power and disappear. What should I do ?
@user-dw2gh3bj7o
@user-dw2gh3bj7o 15 күн бұрын
​@@CoachRyanHFull List of Demand ...she ghosted me Next day and send me back to Hell of Depression
@eileendom5858
@eileendom5858 2 ай бұрын
This video is an absolute GEM. Thank you so much. This is incredibly helpful to hear. It’s been a year since I went no contact. It was our 3 times breaking up. He said he didn’t like who he was becoming and didn’t want to change who he was. I had to respect his wish and keep my dignity. He was becoming very rude and disrespectful. I moved out and never looked back.
@cjgeminitarot6836
@cjgeminitarot6836 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate this video. Just got the discard but we have to live together for awhile. He’s adamant that he doesn’t want to be with me again, and yet he keeps trying to hang out with me, chit chat, etc. even called me “honey” once. So deeply painful and confusing. This video has helped me get a better sense of what is happening on his end and how I can navigate this. Keeping things civil but not starting conversations and being polite but as brief as possible when he asks me how my day was. My answer today was “Fine, thanks.” He still wants the benefits of being with me. I’m not giving him that. Thanks for helping me understand. And also for talking about avoidant without mentioning narcissism because lots of people are avoidant, not just people with NPD.
@karltan9461
@karltan9461 Ай бұрын
its uncanny how similar all avoidant stories are. Mine discarded me and wanted to stay friends. But was occasionally behaving like we're a couple like grabbing my hands and touching my back etc. JUST NUTS. After she pushed me away for the 2nd time i left, i ain't going a downgrade to the friendzone.
@Mom_Luvs_Tech
@Mom_Luvs_Tech 2 ай бұрын
They don’t care, they’ll just go on a dating app and replace you.
@MrIowahawks77
@MrIowahawks77 2 ай бұрын
you are beyond gorgeous
@Mom_Luvs_Tech
@Mom_Luvs_Tech 2 ай бұрын
@@MrIowahawks77Thanks!
@MarkLupson-it6xu
@MarkLupson-it6xu 2 ай бұрын
If they do that, then they did you the biggest favour of your life and didn’t waste your precious energy for 1 more second. Make sure they are blocked. Permanently.
@johnnycalderon9951
@johnnycalderon9951 Ай бұрын
Hard to replace someone who except you and your faults at your worst but.. she can try
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
Well then it's not a loss if they never loved you.
@promo130
@promo130 25 күн бұрын
even better then no contact is: run for the hills
@anothercat9600
@anothercat9600 10 күн бұрын
He texted a long long text two months after discard, only writing about himself and his wellbeing, in the end adding "hope you are fine" No apology, acting as if nothing happened. "Hey, it's been a while" he started the message. I responded very brief a few days later: Thanks, am fine, ttyl" I did not address anything about him. He will not hear from me again.
@battubrewah9584
@battubrewah9584 2 ай бұрын
It's a very painful experience indeed!! I experienced it for the past 2 years.... He fade slowly but I did understood so I kept on trying until he abruptly discarded me.
@thisisSherno
@thisisSherno Ай бұрын
Wow man.. you can't beleive how much your videos are helping me.. I need to come back and watch this everynight to remind me the facts
@robertswift6101
@robertswift6101 15 күн бұрын
remember guys,,it was just your turn,,,plenty of fish in the sea
@sharonsherry7554
@sharonsherry7554 2 ай бұрын
Why would u go back after healing they will never change their the same as a narcissist very similar cold cut off and cruel
@Feijoagirl
@Feijoagirl 2 ай бұрын
You are right Coach Ryan. I took them back for the second time but they hadn’t changed. I was just a back up option. The discard hurts more this time because he just ghosted me with no explanation. And yes he broke my trust. I wish I could believe that he loved me and cared for me but I don’t - I feel like he just used me for the benefits and when stuff on real they just blocked me. If I had known about attachment theory the first time round (over 20 years ago) I wouldn’t have taken him back for a world of hurt that he did to me the second time this time. It hurts more this time than last. Leopards never change their spots I guess.
@desireebarrett3193
@desireebarrett3193 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for promoting healing from this 💕 I pray you continue to be supported and loved as precious as you are 🙏🏽
@mahvash911
@mahvash911 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for being so thorough and explaining it so well.
@bigboss6867
@bigboss6867 2 ай бұрын
Friggin' saved. Thank you for your infinite wisdom, Sensei Ryan.
@ekstarr
@ekstarr Ай бұрын
you have such simple clarity, that really resonates with me. im so grateful I found your videos
@Ghost-rt9md
@Ghost-rt9md 2 ай бұрын
thank you so much Coach Ryan 💙. blessing on you.
@fantazm79
@fantazm79 2 ай бұрын
Your videos on KZfaq and TikTok have been helping overcome my recent breakup
@TheVoiceofChief
@TheVoiceofChief 11 күн бұрын
I'm glad that I found you as all of what you're saying is hitting home for me...
@suedebruyn7751
@suedebruyn7751 2 ай бұрын
I have totally healed thru your super amazing videoes 🎉thank you Ryan
@bettywinn8296
@bettywinn8296 12 күн бұрын
Thank you, Coach Ryan.So, happy I came across your video in the early hours of this morning. Listening, closely. You are exactly right. He "has" to want it. I really don"t think he will heal. Told he wants to come back & "reconcile." After watchimg this video, my guard is up. You gave me the insight I needed as to how to handle him when he does contact me because I heard he wants to "sweep" everything under the rug, as you mentioned. I want him to be "accountable" not try to bend the rules his way & manipulate me.
@smartfacemusic
@smartfacemusic Ай бұрын
Just last week we were planning a trip in Europe together, today it feels like we’re over. But no communication about it and when I try to talk about how I feel or about our relationship, she panics and everything gets worse. I like this woman so much and I’m confused and in a lot of pain. It was magical just moments ago and now it’s a curse, almost over night. I am so sad that this is our situation. Her 3yo daughter talks about me all the time and I didn’t realize this woman was avoidant until I was in waaaay too deep. Im craving her and our beautiful moments but am scared of saying anything about it. Feels like I’m losing this whatever I do and I have so much love to give, I feel utterly lost right now
@MyShapeofmyHeart
@MyShapeofmyHeart 15 күн бұрын
I'm going through it too and if you need a buddy I'm here for you.
@christinefoltz1055
@christinefoltz1055 Ай бұрын
Is there anyone who is healthy and really grounded??😢
@nabeninja5718
@nabeninja5718 Ай бұрын
Shaken up but will be good
@christinefoltz1055
@christinefoltz1055 Ай бұрын
Ditto here
@promo130
@promo130 25 күн бұрын
the last 2 woman i dated, 1 was a covert narsisist and number 2 a fearfull avoidant. but he thats life. we keep pushing forward.
@user-dk2ik7rt4f
@user-dk2ik7rt4f 29 күн бұрын
This is very good insight and advice. VERY good. Thank❤you!
@matteozecca2772
@matteozecca2772 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for these wonderful videos
@raymoundselvarajan4589
@raymoundselvarajan4589 Ай бұрын
I have experienced everything you mentioned in this video. I am amazed.
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
When will the withdrawal symptoms end though? 7.5 weeks of perfect no contact and I still get that anxiety/sad feeling in the pit of stomach regularly. Just want it to stop already.
@ld921
@ld921 2 ай бұрын
Give it 3 months
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
@@ld921yep, I have heard that about 90 days is the magic number so to speak. Thanks for the reminder. Best..
@ashton1952
@ashton1952 2 ай бұрын
For me it's been about 10 months; starting to feel my self confidence slowly come back, it gets easier and better with time
@derrick.crawford1005
@derrick.crawford1005 2 ай бұрын
8 months still sucks, I wish you better luck than me…
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
@@derrick.crawford1005 thank you 🙏🏻 😢 have you been out and talked with/met other people?
@philipramsden4975
@philipramsden4975 2 ай бұрын
I've been back in contact with mine after almost a 3 month ghosting period, some breadcrumbs, and then back to contact. She explained it as that she "just freaked out". I think things may have just been moving too fast for her. I've been letting her dictate the pace and have been giving her space. She's really an amazing person, and has opened up quite a bit, but I let her make the choice to do that.
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Ай бұрын
Good luck. But she might clam up again
@BManStan1991
@BManStan1991 Ай бұрын
This is how avoidants work. They bounce from wanting "feel good emotions" novel emotions and thrill, then, once it feels like things are becoming too serious or they feel a loss of individuality, they will dissappear again. Only to repeat the cycle again and again until they get therapy specifically for this and heal. No other solution will work but dealing with the root issues in their need for validation/fear of commitment.
@Harbinger_of_nurgle
@Harbinger_of_nurgle Ай бұрын
Weak
@sagovana
@sagovana 13 күн бұрын
Did she reach out first or you?
@graceatumnu4462
@graceatumnu4462 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely true amazing advice ❤❤
@erronymousbosh5649
@erronymousbosh5649 23 күн бұрын
Really good video Coach. I’ve been ODing on no contact videos of all kinds from variety of coaches the past two days. This was one of the two most beneficial for me personally. Thanks for the solid no-frills cogent and applicable advice here!
@robynwilliams9678
@robynwilliams9678 15 күн бұрын
Agreed! I’ve taken in a lot of the content recently and coach Ryan is talking to the discarded person. I find the other videos are geared toward getting them back
@gayleneflower398
@gayleneflower398 11 күн бұрын
“Getting them back” attracts people that think they can buy some magic potion, and the people that make those videos are just trying to make money off their programs or for their egos
@erronymousbosh5649
@erronymousbosh5649 11 күн бұрын
@@gayleneflower398 very well might be true. Ticklers of ears. preying on the desperate. I just don’t know that there isn’t some small fragment of gold worth digging for in these videos as I try to cope.
@williamjlusk7940
@williamjlusk7940 10 күн бұрын
Thank you. I'm doing this, it's the only solution. NO CONTACT EVER AGAIN!!!
@user-lf1jq3ng4u
@user-lf1jq3ng4u 2 ай бұрын
Just thank you. it helps me a lot. I'm gonna see him tomorrow it's first time after breaking up because I had to end up on the phone as we were on a long distance. I won't go back him even deep down me want. but hopefully it will help his healing journey to begin like he wants a change
@Swiss_Girl
@Swiss_Girl Ай бұрын
how did it go?❤
@WinstonQuezada
@WinstonQuezada 2 ай бұрын
Great video. It was helpful. I subscribed, liked and hit the bell 🙏🔥
@deadfriendsrecords2938
@deadfriendsrecords2938 2 ай бұрын
Coach Ryan is the MF GOAT
@alirh1145
@alirh1145 2 ай бұрын
thank you somuch this is really helpful
@stylephyles8932
@stylephyles8932 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@haihai5293
@haihai5293 2 ай бұрын
Good video like always.
@sheilasheila2709
@sheilasheila2709 2 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@Steven-lm8db
@Steven-lm8db Ай бұрын
Thank you brother 🙏😇
@bangkokstevie
@bangkokstevie 2 ай бұрын
6 months no contact. Not one word spoken between us since she dumped me via email. I deleted all her numbers, messages, unfriended her on FB everything. It was tough but had to be done. Most of my social media is set to friends only but occasionally I make a public post if it's important and I think someone might want to share it. Last week she liked a post of mine so she's obviously checking out my page. Any more of that and I'll block her.
@s13283
@s13283 2 ай бұрын
I blocked mine. I tried to just be friends, but I think it’s important to keep him away. He’s already shown me he still thinks of me as “an option” even tho when confronted with that, he argues no. That I’m worth working it out with.. yet he still can’t make a decision.. like buddy, that’s treating me as an option! Idk what else you’d call it 🤷‍♀️ Other then manipulation
@Davecastlez
@Davecastlez 2 ай бұрын
I feel you bro, mine dumped me over the phone, deleted ALL her social media, blocked all my friends and family. She couldnt even look me in the eye and give me my stuff back, she had to use her dad to hand them to me. i have been NC for 9 months and nothing at all from her.
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
11:15 this is key🔑🔑🔑 i messed up my no contact progress by not being prepared when he broke no contact, apologizing and asking to see me. I let him see me with no conditions.
@teeh.4754
@teeh.4754 Ай бұрын
The most messed up part is I gave her everything I had. And all of these people in the comments would give their all to their partner and yet nobody would ever do that for me. Why am I sitting here so unhappy and she is just ficking ok
@InstaOmry
@InstaOmry Ай бұрын
I'm with you my brother, 2 weeks in no contact It's tough but get better🤙♥️
@SnowLeopardForever
@SnowLeopardForever Ай бұрын
If it makes you feel better, the man I was involved with when we were in our early 20’s, who is an Avoidant, he is still single, never married. HE IS ALMOST 50 YEARS OLD. Meaning most Avoidants if they don’t get help, will NEVER find nor keep long term love. They will literally pass on from this earth ALONE. It’s sad but very true.
@PB-md3nt
@PB-md3nt 29 күн бұрын
@@SnowLeopardForever My avoidant ex, who I finally started fighting fire with fire. She used the silent treatment on me all the time. I have gone three bouts of NC...4 months, the last one 45 days, and currently going on a month tomorrow. She's been married three times, her family and daughter disowned her, she's 56 going on 14. I've told her a few times that she's going to be a lonely old woman unless she changes if not for me for the next guy or the guy after that its' going to be the same results.
@promo130
@promo130 25 күн бұрын
not true, avoidants are really unhappy deep inside themselfs. they have no selfworth and very low self esteem. it seems they are doing oke and having fun, but they need to keep themselfs busy and they burry all their emotions and feelings. they cant be alone for a minute with their own thoughts, then they go crazy. they dont have a nice life. keep your head up. what doesnt kill you makes you stronger.
@ninette9803
@ninette9803 10 күн бұрын
Same here! 50 years old never married, no children and in an endless self pity party😅😅😅​@@SnowLeopardForever
@nomadhitch579
@nomadhitch579 2 ай бұрын
Just went through this, in a situationship, literally just on the verge of becoming a relationship. 2 months of consistent and perhaps too much fun, we spent nearly 3/4 of that time together and the rest talking on the phone. I noticed her backing away last week when I went out of town for work and then she dropped out of nowhere "we have a compatibility issue" Her reason being she prefers men who are reserved and quiet. Her mother was in an out her whole life til ODing when she graduated highschool. Her dad was present but largely unemotional and semi cold. I noticed she would constantly deflect from conversations that were even slightly pushing deep on sensitive subjects that people dating talk about. She explained to me how just the week prior she was thinking of this becoming a relationship. It's so confusing, she did offer a little more info when I pushed for it during some closure but it was largely her saying "I'm sorry I am just shutting off my emotions and can't see past the compatibility" I told her to think on things but she seems unaffected and I'm doubtful things will change during NC. I left her a message before going NC that if she wants to reconnect I'm happy to address her boundaries or needs that she left unspoken. I tend to be expressive, I consider myself secure mostly but this brought back my anxious past tendencies
@demariarob
@demariarob 2 ай бұрын
I think we dated the same girl. This was my experience almost exactly. The difference is mine ghosted me out of nowhere when things were crossing that 2 month threshold and a couple of weeks after having the conversation about exclusivity. It's been 4 months now, I've tried reaching out to her a few times and at first she was receptive and short, then she became cold and toxic and asked me to stop reaching out to her. So I did, and just explained that I never deserved her sudden disappearance and am never going to rejecting her needs, feelings or boundaries. I left the door open for an apology/friendly conversation down the road but I told her I don't wish to speak with her right now, blocked her to set up a boundary for my own sanity. I won't get involved in a back and forth.. Very unstable and toxic behavior. She's a very misunderstood person IMO, but has major issues communicating. Lots for her to work on. Wishing you healing brother.
@chelseajackman7730
@chelseajackman7730 2 ай бұрын
I wish you the best. I've been through a discard too and I am here to tell you I asked God to hit Ctrl+Alt+Del on me.
@nomadhitch579
@nomadhitch579 2 ай бұрын
@demariarob Sorry to hear that man, wishing you find the answers and healing you want aswell. It is strange, the high is like a small snow ball rolling down a mountain and gradually getting bigger, and right before take off into relationship land it instead falls short and hits a brick wall. I really can't explain it, she mentioned how she was thinking of this as a compatibility issue in the back of her mind leading up to ending things... But really?! Her preferring men that are quiet and reserved? That's a cop out, and she was just flaw finding due to her emotional shut off. I hope you get some closure this shit sucks man, fireworks were going off for both of us until this happened now it's nothing but silence and short cold responses.
@demariarob
@demariarob 2 ай бұрын
@@nomadhitch579 Thank you for your kindness. Yeah, same here, it was an electric couple of months that's for sure, towards the end she tried coming up with really silly reasons why we weren't compatible, like how I like hiking and she doesn't so we may not be compatible. My response was "What?" and after some reassurance and healthy respectful communication from my end she calmed down and was happy again.. eventually things must have boiled over suddenly a couple weeks later. Anywaysm It's just anxiety talk brother. Because they're deactivating and going into run/survival mode. It's really not personal, but you don't deserve that treatment either. They need therapy and healing and to work on themselves before they get involved with anyone really. It's not your fault, you didn't know at the time, so always be kind to yourself.
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
You sound like an awesome person, and you will make someone a great partner. The right person. You did everything you could; there is nothing wrong with you and don’t let a DA make you think that there is. You’re not anxious bc you want intimacy and a real connection with someone. Sending good vibes for your healing.
@pinkixora
@pinkixora 14 күн бұрын
love your voice.
@LOrguedeJulianne
@LOrguedeJulianne Ай бұрын
I am in a phase with NO CONTACT after a very difficult relationship with an avoidant right now. I do not want to reach out. But I am panicking that my ex could reach out to me. I am also afraid to meet her on the street or at an event. I started to avoid all places where I could meet her. I even quit my second job, because I could meet her there. I dont know if these feelings are normal after a break up with an avoidant. I just dont want to see her or interact with that person anymore. I also realize that my memory of the relationship has become kinda blurry. I remember everything that hurt me, but I dont remember the good times anymore. I feel numb and super disconnected. I dont know if this is normal...
@ekstarr
@ekstarr Ай бұрын
have you taken an attachment style quiz to identify your own attachment style? it will explain a lot. what your partner did is on them. how you react is all 100% on you. there's a lot you can learn about yourself from your feelings, reactions, fears, and choices after this difficult break up.
@LOrguedeJulianne
@LOrguedeJulianne Ай бұрын
@@ekstarr yes, I know that I have a lot of anxious traits with partners, however with parents and friends I am secure. that is what the test showed. Still I am overwhelmed by my own bodily reactions towards my ex and unsure if I should consult a therapist. Yesterday I saw my ex while being in the tram. The tram passed the place where she stood. And immediately my heart started racing and I had a feeling I couldn't breathe. I believe that's not normal. It took me 3 hours to calm down at home.
@emen6080
@emen6080 Ай бұрын
I felt the same way for a long long time…the dynamic will shift
@azizalbnay914
@azizalbnay914 Ай бұрын
​@@emen6080 can you elaborate please ?
@norswil8763
@norswil8763 2 ай бұрын
It’s all good and well to take a hard line with the dumper(these videos always paint them as the villain) but what about if you were the main contributer to the breakup? She was avoidant, because I was anxious and vice-versa, but I certainly caused the most damage.
@fightingmonk123
@fightingmonk123 2 ай бұрын
So my avoidant girlfriend texted me " I love you" and then she deleted it. I asked her about it and she said she accidentally pushed the button.
@ArjanTV
@ArjanTV 2 ай бұрын
🤣
@JR-ze3nn
@JR-ze3nn 2 ай бұрын
She wants you to chase her and pursue her.
@Jackmcars12
@Jackmcars12 Ай бұрын
How long were you separated?
@fightingmonk123
@fightingmonk123 Ай бұрын
@@Jackmcars12 not long enough
@promo130
@promo130 25 күн бұрын
run for the hill buddy
@Cre8Fire34
@Cre8Fire34 2 ай бұрын
How about calling them out in an email as blunt and direct as they deserve? Like, no holds barred? Not to get a response - to WAKE THEM UP.
@LeeChrissy
@LeeChrissy 2 ай бұрын
Or you can focus on yourself and heal like a healthy person would do.
@ashton1952
@ashton1952 2 ай бұрын
@Cre8 why it's not a good idea, is (1) the person is carrying enough pain already( from their family and past before you, etc), and you don't want to be the one to push them over the edge; or, (2) they weren't interested in the first place and it'll be why can't this person understand and stop bothering me; or (3) you did things that hurt them and the relationship and they don't want to hurt you by criticizing you, so it's their way of showing empathy by not pointing out your faults. Any of the above reasons, (may be others too) depending on your own situation, and all not good reasons to keep forcing the matter
@Nixeroni
@Nixeroni 2 ай бұрын
In a way writing everything down and getting it off your chest can help. Don’t send it. Personally I got a notebook and every time I got overwhelmed emotionally, I wrote it out. Everything.
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
Right! Journal it for yourself, but DO NOT send it. You won’t wake them up, you’ll inflate their ego more . Your silence is much more effective
@SeaWitch99
@SeaWitch99 Ай бұрын
It's been 4 weeks of NC, I blocked him absolutely everywhere and locked down all my accounts to private, I don't want to deal with breadcrumbs I do plan to ignore him if he pops up just so he can know how it feels, I don't care if it's petty I'm hurt.
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 5 күн бұрын
@SeaWitch99 he is doing this all to me but I'm the one who wanted a real commitment... am I the toxic one?
@jenaskye1567
@jenaskye1567 29 күн бұрын
What about when they left when you were 3 months pregnant with your 2nd child? 12 yrs together & almody 6 of that married - 2 babies 1 & almost 3yr. He's in an ongoing affair with a co worker. In the middle of divorce. We hardly talk except for 5 mins at pick up & drop off.... 💔 I took him off everything fb insta etc... how can they experience your loss if they are deep in a affair?
@adrianstjohn4820
@adrianstjohn4820 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Is it normal.that they gat angry over nothing and when they do they say nasty things and things they know will hurt? She also wants me to give her lift home from work but says if I don't want to lots of others have offered. So why does she not ask them?? Its confusing
@MrOldskool1974
@MrOldskool1974 2 ай бұрын
Good lord man! That’s ALL super toxic! No one who cares for you or respects you, talks to you or treats you that way. No one. Can’t you see she’s being manipulative? Telling you she has other options basically? Wow. No way. Run and run far away from her man. She’s a selfish, toxic , insecure person who only want the attention and to use others to make herself feel better. My ex girlfriend is an avoidant and we were together for a year and a half, lived together too. The relationship ended and we agreed to be friends but then she ghosted me completely. Haven’t heard a word from her in months. Even she, never spoke to me in a mean or nasty or disrespectful way. Never. It’s about love and respect. Clearly this girl you describe has none. None for you and none for herself.
@Cre8Fire34
@Cre8Fire34 2 ай бұрын
They NEVER self reflect - so an email showing examples of their behavior might shock them into doing that.
@SunshineAndSnowflakes
@SunshineAndSnowflakes 2 ай бұрын
Yes they do. They self-reflect in silence and don't bleed emotions all over these threads like some people do. In the personal development school I'm in, avoidant complete more courses than any other attachment style.
@sarahsurrender11
@sarahsurrender11 2 ай бұрын
Good, they need to.
@Jpp2642
@Jpp2642 2 ай бұрын
All I need is communication regarding our children cuz I want my kids to know that they are parents. Is it wrong?
@smarie8273
@smarie8273 Ай бұрын
What if you broke up with them because of their behavior
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
Dumpers can go no contact too if they werent the ones hurting the relationship
@denisecrystal_yoescribo
@denisecrystal_yoescribo 5 күн бұрын
That's my case 🤚He pushed my boundaries to the limit. He pushed me to the very edge in which I fucking exploded and broke up!! Because I was going insane of the dynamics! Boundaries were useless, he broke them all. Even started provoking... Doing them on purpose, so I thought "maybe (as every passive Agressive coward) he didn't dare to break up!! So he provoked me to take the decision".. And so it was. I did. And felt terribly guilty cos I reacted badly, was I couldn't no more. I believe he was playing with my mind all along with his contradictory messages because that's who he is!
@Jpp2642
@Jpp2642 2 ай бұрын
That they are parents.
@Loversinadangeroustime
@Loversinadangeroustime Ай бұрын
My FA broke up with me and then messaged me daily for about 2 months with notions of false hope. He then began to fade away and I ended up chasing him for 3 months even though I tried so hard not to …I’m no longer reaching out, will no contact still have the same effect in regards to accessing their feelings at this stage?
@karltan9461
@karltan9461 Ай бұрын
Let them go
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
3rd round of no contact. 7 weeks no contact so far. Seems like hes still in relief stage :(
@melissarobinette8710
@melissarobinette8710 2 ай бұрын
What if it’s your husband and you have a child together?
@josephsarto689
@josephsarto689 2 ай бұрын
My avoidant ex gf hasn’t come back and its been since December. Why hasn’t she reached out? I thought avoidant do come back?
@Greentea4591
@Greentea4591 2 ай бұрын
They usually say Avoidants need 6 months. Then it also depends on the length of your relationship and reasons for the breakup/ what happened after the breakup (how you reacted) and have you been in total no contact? I think if you talk to them or see them it resets the clock and makes it take longer for them to come back (if they are going to) It also depends if they are with someone new now too
@tonygueug4342
@tonygueug4342 2 ай бұрын
👍👍🙏🙏⭐⭐♥♥
@robturner7024
@robturner7024 Ай бұрын
What if she is you next door neighbor and you see her everyday ?
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 Ай бұрын
That sucks dude. I learned the hard way too to never fork the company or neighbourhood
@marygee7524
@marygee7524 Ай бұрын
What if you work with him and have to see them everyday? No escape!
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
Call back your energy and power. They can sense indifference.
@robturner7024
@robturner7024 Ай бұрын
@@basicinfo2022 what do you mean by that? How do I do that ?
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
@robturner7024 treat them like you would a stranger passing you by. No emotions or attention.
@Cre8Fire34
@Cre8Fire34 2 ай бұрын
My DA sent me a self-absorbed cliche ridden email... And I want to respond with some tough truths.
@SunshineAndSnowflakes
@SunshineAndSnowflakes 2 ай бұрын
What will that do for you?
@bangkokstevie
@bangkokstevie 2 ай бұрын
Your silence will be enough.
@LoveThando
@LoveThando 2 ай бұрын
Don't do it, you have the control now don't lose it
@Ken-od7gc
@Ken-od7gc 2 ай бұрын
NOOOOOOO! Don't do it man. Chances are you'll see a bunch of blame shifting followed by the DA cold. It won't do shit to or for her and will end up pissing you off. Stay righteous.
@promo130
@promo130 25 күн бұрын
its like speaking against a wall
@Greentea4591
@Greentea4591 2 ай бұрын
I don’t understand you say don’t take the breadcrumbs but don’t ignore them? What does that look like? I need clarification what is a breadcrumb and what isn’t? How do we not take breadcrumbs and not ignore them at the same time?
@paulharrison8612
@paulharrison8612 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, was thinking the same...????
@ruthcardone7419
@ruthcardone7419 2 ай бұрын
I guess it means dont be too eager or available to them. Pretty much treat them like a distant acquaintance then, from there, if they give you more warmth, move to friends (not with benefits) and if it then goes to the next level, then the option of love. They will generally tap out if they are true avoidants, but at least you won't be fooled or broken twice.
@Zara19888
@Zara19888 Күн бұрын
I have a question if anyone could answer please… my avoidant ex asked for a break/space. It’s been 5months. He has spoken to me here and there but he doesn’t think I am gone completely. Last week I msg him to check in and to invite him to meet up when he’s in my hometown in August. We meet every year and I had hope 😆 Anyways I know he thinks he can have me whenever he wants. Should I send a msg to him stating my boundaries and that him ghosting me isn’t okay? Otherwise I think the fear I’ve left hasn’t set in yet.
@LisaS-yc2kr
@LisaS-yc2kr 2 ай бұрын
Really what is love ❤️ at 56 year old lady which I have been played to many times??
@derekenlow7607
@derekenlow7607 Ай бұрын
Dont waste your time. Enjoy life.
@Meredith31
@Meredith31 3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately I’ve had to reach out because he had some of my things I needed back. And now we’re going to have to meet up irl to get them back after almost 3 months of not seeing each other/ having contact.
@dorcusmunduru4471
@dorcusmunduru4471 Күн бұрын
Can't you tell him to drop them somewhere safe or send someone to pick them up for you? Am in the same situation but am planning to do the above, I don't want to see him at all. Sending you lots of strength 💪 ❤
@Meredith31
@Meredith31 Күн бұрын
@@dorcusmunduru4471 I just met up with him on neutral ground at my aunt’s house which was good so there wasn’t any emotions attached if were to come to my house I always would be sad when he left because we were in a long distance relationship but this time it worked better not having any emotional attachments to my aunts house and him. It was super awkward since we’ve been no contact for months but it was good for him to see that I’m detached and no longer have him up on that pedestal that I had him on. I kept things short and business like and he was taken aback I think by my lack of energy invested in him now so I was proud of myself for that. I thought I would be emotional seeing him for the last time but actually he just gave me the ick and I couldn’t get away fast enough. Good luck to you, stay strong! You got this!
@aquastone5870
@aquastone5870 2 ай бұрын
This is wrong advice! There is now a way to counsel avoidance to fix this. Find proper trained counselor! This is outdated info!
@teadororudy
@teadororudy 2 ай бұрын
How the hell is it wrong advice to stay away from someone who treated you like garbage and work on yourself and save your dignity? It’s exactly the right thing to do, period.
@Ken-od7gc
@Ken-od7gc 2 ай бұрын
This isn't about what to do to coddle and accomodate the avoidant. This is how to protect yourself emotionally when one of these train wrecks runs you over. Avoidants are quite likely to deny therapy.....listen to the experts. Most often they don't want to work at fixing shit because that means facing themselves and their fears which, surprise, they avoid. And therapy is often not so sucessful. It takes a really damn secure individual to want to, and tolerate, staying with an avoidant attempting therapy. OH AND BY THE WAY.....go to about 11:30 and Coach talks about the option of an avoidant working in therapy. But their partner needs to have rock solid boundaries about them staying in therapy and committing to change.
@liteapl
@liteapl 2 ай бұрын
Just because there is counseling available does NOT mean the avoidant will go to the counseling and work on themselves. From what I can tell it is rare that they will and rare they will work on themselves. This is not outdated information!!
@MarkLupson-it6xu
@MarkLupson-it6xu 2 ай бұрын
This advice is %100 correct. And if you havnt been in the situation then don’t bother commenting. We know, that you dont know.
@bassgirl1111
@bassgirl1111 29 күн бұрын
This advice IS absolutely 100% correct. And the avoidant can go to counseling themselves if they so choose.
@jennyw9656
@jennyw9656 Ай бұрын
I’ve been playing this game with him for 4 years. I have to ignore him, I’ve tried everything else. The cycle needed to stop and he’s in a different relationship.
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 Ай бұрын
You'll probably have to go no contact and ignore him for a very long time to truly detach and become a stronger person.
@jennyw9656
@jennyw9656 29 күн бұрын
@@basicinfo2022 I know. Unfortunately he’s a coworker and I can’t get away from him
@basicinfo2022
@basicinfo2022 29 күн бұрын
@jennyw9656 he moved on, and so should you. You deserve to be happily married.
@taniamcinnes7801
@taniamcinnes7801 29 күн бұрын
You may find they were something before you ended
@AnnieNoronha
@AnnieNoronha Ай бұрын
when you wdont kow the truth then mind your won bessns you peopal r so wicikt why doant u peopala r goa and doe?
@spiritwanderer777
@spiritwanderer777 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@robertmadore2138
@robertmadore2138 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
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