Why Nobody Knows Where this Food is From

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Matthew Li

Matthew Li

Күн бұрын

Laos is a mysterious country to most people, surrounded by much larger countries that have more famous landmarks and cuisines. I went to Laos to uncover what kind of food represents the country and discovered that papaya salad is one of Laos' defining dishes. The thing is, I always thought papaya salad was from Thailand; the truth is a lot more complicated. In this video, I go through various points in history to figure out whether papaya salad is from Thailand or Laos.
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Credits:
Producer - Matthew Li
Production Assistant - Mana Chuabang
Script Supervisor - Russ Medcalf
Special thanks:
Nam Jitmun
Olarn Chuabang
Churiya Chaipanya
Louis Govier
Yusef Iqbal
Yeevonne Lim
Jason Rolfe
Music from Musicbed
SOURCES:
Simon de la Loubère | A new historical relation of the Kingdom of Siam
Michelin | Decoding Som Tam - bit.ly/3IbPQZ8
Culture Trip | History of Som Tam - bit.ly/42y9yWZ
ICHT | Som Tam - bit.ly/3M6elYI
Kristine L. Callis | The History of Plant Use in Laos
Penny Van Esterik | From Marco Polo to McDonald's: Thai Cuisine in Transition
Timestamps:
0:00 - What is Laotian Food?
1:17 - How papaya got to Southeast Asia
2:31 - Why papaya salad is important to Thailand
3:35 - Eating papaya salad in Thailand
4:23 - The Thai claim for papaya salad
5:27 - Eating papaya salad in Laos
6:51 - The Laotian claim for papaya salad
7:22 - Wat Phou
7:37 - Why do we think of Thailand when we think of papaya salad?
8:48 - Laos the forgotten war
10:48 - Who does papaya salad really belong to?

Пікірлер: 370
@T-POPGallery
@T-POPGallery 8 ай бұрын
Thailand has Lao ethnic people more than Laos the whole country. Most importantly, Thai is Nationality. Tai-Kadai is ethnic groups or language families. Lao is one ethnic in Tai-Kadai.
@user-hg2cy3dd3q
@user-hg2cy3dd3q 6 ай бұрын
And we were only taught china has more ethnic mongolians than mongolia itself
@iROChakri
@iROChakri 5 ай бұрын
This is correct. I find it funny all the time how Laotian people always try to force Thai people in Isan to self identity themsleves as Laotian. 99% of Thai people in Isan identity themsleves as Thai and they want nothing to do with Laos and Laotian people. Dishes like Papaya salad, Larb, etc are originated in Isan, Thailand but with such stupid argument that Thai people in Isan are Laotian, so these dishes must come from Laos 😂
@brirashrn5445
@brirashrn5445 5 ай бұрын
Yes thank you Thailand for stealing lao land and our people.
@sturgereign5460
@sturgereign5460 Жыл бұрын
Next biggest youtuber !!!
@HFC786
@HFC786 Жыл бұрын
Been watching the Portugal video non stop! Keep up amazing content
@sssf85k
@sssf85k Жыл бұрын
Thanks for touching the bases of both countries. As a first gen born Laotian American, I remember we had my parents sponsored a central Thai from Bangkok as an exchange student to continue his studies in California. Mind you, this was 1985 after majority of displaced Lao and Hmongs whom are starting their future in US. He admitted that Papaya Salad was looked down upon because it was meant for poor people, amongst other well known food items as Jew Bong and Laab was one he was told only for "low nannies" to eat. And, there were alot of tv shows from the 1980s in Thailand when it came to showcasing these foods, some guests were either uncomfortable or made comments in the likes of "will I die after eating this?", "I can't eat this because i can't stand the smell of pla rah(fermented fish sauce with crabs)", " this food looks very weird to me", "I thought this is only for taxi drivers and construction laborers to eat only" I find it ironically amusing how cuisine was once down looked upon is now being aggressively approached and slap an "original" label to it.
@SaengsKitchen
@SaengsKitchen 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video and connecting the dots. You explain things so well. Food history is so important in explaining things especially when it comes to Laos and the impact it’s actually made around the world. I will be watching more of your videos. Subscribed!
@spin_ani
@spin_ani Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the content you have been putting out :) the way you edit and share food history is not only interesting but concise, thank you!
@Lum9908
@Lum9908 Жыл бұрын
These videos are great, thanks for uploading them all the time, they feel like documentaries even though they're 10mins which is pretty crazy. Thanks for these great videos!
@bankisqt4433
@bankisqt4433 8 ай бұрын
the title is such a clickbait and people who are upset about these topic I can already tell that they grew up in the US, neither in Lao or Thailand. You people are literally American! As Thai person one thing I know about Lao people is that they’re very kind hearted and every Thai people know damn well that papaya salad is not real thai food and we wouldn’t even claim that is real thai food or at least it didn’t came from central part of Thailand. It’s all marketing not just history. if you understand why restaurant in USA advertise some of these food toward Americans as Thai food you’ll know. You’d be surprised many Thai restaurants in US also own by Lao people.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw 4 ай бұрын
Agree, and sticky rice pair well with Papaya salad and who eat more sticky rice besides LAOS people!!
@Xenondos
@Xenondos 3 ай бұрын
@@SKYBaal-ms6xw Northern Thailand also eat sticky rice.
@viennaxay
@viennaxay 2 ай бұрын
​@@Xenondosnorthern Thailand was once Laos..
@Xenondos
@Xenondos 2 ай бұрын
@@viennaxay No, Lan Na Kingdom (northern Thailand) never be a part of Lan Xang (Laos).
@viennaxay
@viennaxay 2 ай бұрын
@@Xenondos meant what is now known as the esaan region
@MusicShortsGlobal
@MusicShortsGlobal Жыл бұрын
These are high-quality videos! I just like it more when you do it about countries where cold is forgotten.
@shakiMiki
@shakiMiki Жыл бұрын
This is fast becoming my favourite food channel. No one does the interaction between food & culture quite as well. Really looking forward to more of your output, You are doing something special & very well. Bravo.
@TipperProject
@TipperProject Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm absolutely in love with these videos such a unique take on food
@shakiMiki
@shakiMiki Жыл бұрын
@@TipperProject Me too. From the very first video I watched on Portuguese. I think it's going to be huge & we were here early. Everything I've seen has been compelling. I subscribe to quite a few food related channels & this really stands out. Informative & he has a confident & engaging style.
@juntaveekammanee
@juntaveekammanee 8 ай бұрын
Issan is Laos and Laos is the same as Issan. The French and big brother Thailand wanted Issan since the land is on the same side as Thailand. Thanks for making this video. Thumbs up 👍👍👍
@lexso5877
@lexso5877 5 ай бұрын
Yeah. French separated Laos from Thailand that time. Right now Laos really happy to join China soon. Good luck. 😂
@juntaveekammanee
@juntaveekammanee 5 ай бұрын
@@lexso5877 The One who created the galaxy and the earth was not willing Laos and her people to be wipe out of God's presence just like Israel. Don't laugh at her fall or you and those who are with you will not stand. Be humble. This awesome God whom I served His Majestic plans and will is just.
@juntaveekammanee
@juntaveekammanee 5 ай бұрын
@@lexso5877 China and Israel God allows them to exist for God's purpose and they have been born in the ancient times. Have a blessed day 🕊️
@marumaru.1703
@marumaru.1703 4 ай бұрын
Isaan people is Thai. We are not Laos and never wanted to Laos, a communist and underdeveloped country.
@marvinfok65
@marvinfok65 4 ай бұрын
@@lexso5877 Friends from Laos told me that they were happy with the new railway built by the Chinese, especially where they had enjoyed increase of export to China therefore improving their economy.
@FredoGallardo
@FredoGallardo Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how I got here but I'm so happy I am. Big fan, love your format and content
@WakaMorishita
@WakaMorishita Жыл бұрын
I love your content and the way you show all your research❤
@jfkwkfk8867
@jfkwkfk8867 Жыл бұрын
continue the hard work I can literally feel that you are gonna be a big youtuber soon!
@Ploppismus
@Ploppismus Жыл бұрын
so happy i found this channel, you just keep posting such interesting topics, love it
@JasonRoofie
@JasonRoofie Жыл бұрын
Best way to support small channels is shilling them on social media.
@Ploppismus
@Ploppismus Жыл бұрын
@@JasonRoofie ???
@JasonRoofie
@JasonRoofie Жыл бұрын
@@Ploppismus oh sorry. "shilling" is slang for sharing on social media.
@Ploppismus
@Ploppismus Жыл бұрын
@@JasonRoofie ok, never heard of it
@ESC_jackqulen
@ESC_jackqulen Жыл бұрын
New subscriber after the Portuguese video showed up on my feed. I love how this channel found a niche combining travel vlog + food history. And the guy is Hong Konger - US-American just like me!
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano 8 ай бұрын
This is a beautiful and Intelligent video. Beautiful editing and love the discussion. The Papaya salad, I once had in Laos is super spicy.
@GOLDYMONKs
@GOLDYMONKs 3 ай бұрын
this is so well done. well done!!
@franky3557
@franky3557 Жыл бұрын
Subscribed because of the Portuguese 🇵🇹 video and i am not disapointed ... Keep these great videos coming
@mariaray1603
@mariaray1603 Жыл бұрын
thanks for this great video!
@mylesjude233
@mylesjude233 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video mate, hope this one blows up like your Portugeuse video 🇵🇹 📹
@amerikomic
@amerikomic Жыл бұрын
Bruv! Amazing video ❤️❤️❤️
@worldsofpivotify
@worldsofpivotify Жыл бұрын
I love the way you use food to tell stories. Gives me Anthony Bourdain vibes I won't be surprised when this channel reaches a million subscribers
@offthemenuyt
@offthemenuyt Жыл бұрын
Anthony Bourdain is my main inspiration, so that means a lot to me!
@sukonsiripoksup8981
@sukonsiripoksup8981 9 ай бұрын
South East Asia เป็นดินแดนที่มีวัฒนธรรมหลายเชื้อชาติ... in the old days ไม่มีคนในดินแดนแห่งนี้มานั่งเคลมวัฒนธรรมนั้นนี้เป็นของตนเพราะอยู่ร่วมกันมามี heritage ที่ร่วมกันหลายอย่าง....โดยเฉพาะดินแดนสุวรรณภูมิแห่งนี้ อุดมไปด้วยความหลากหลายของเชื้อชาติและวัฒนธรรมซึ่งเราก็เคารพในรากเหง้าที่มาของแต่ละวัฒนธรรมจนยากที่จะแบ่งแยกว่าใครเป็นเจ้าของ คนไทยทุกคนก็ทราบดีว่าส้มตำคืออาหารหลักของคนลาวและคนอิสานของไทย แต่ด้วยความ popularของอาหารนี้ที่ต่างชาติมีโอกาสมาทดลองชิมในเมืองไทย จึงกลายเป็นว่ามาเมืองไทยก็ต้องมาชิมส้มตำ การที่เมืองไทยโปรโมทการท่องเที่ยวก็ไม่ได้หมายความว่าเราไปโขมยอาหารประเทศชาติของใครมา...เรียนมาด้วยความเคารพนะคะ
@fgghttjjj
@fgghttjjj Жыл бұрын
Great content, it's like a full plate!
@BBallantine223
@BBallantine223 Жыл бұрын
Yes bro your videos are amazingly good 🙋🏼‍♂️
@mmps18
@mmps18 Жыл бұрын
Ooh this looks compelling!
@DUDEfreestyle
@DUDEfreestyle 7 ай бұрын
One of my best friends in middle/high school was Lao. I never turned down an offer when he invited me over to his house because I knew his mother was always cooking some bomb ass food lol. I remember her telling me stories of how the Thai people treated Lao and Hmong really poorly in the refugee camps, some very sad stories that I will never forget.
@financierechris9566
@financierechris9566 2 ай бұрын
I'm Half French thai& lao, I think there is more lao sources inside Tam Mak Hung or know by Thai as Som Tam, according to wikipedia : It is generally believed to have been created by the Lao people and is considered one of the national dishes of Laos, Green papaya salad is also popular in neighbouring Thailand's Isan region, whose population is mainly composed of ethnic Lao and from where it spread to the rest of Thailand...
@jujubee7549
@jujubee7549 2 ай бұрын
I remember going to thai restaurants when i was younger (owned by thais) they didnt have Papaya salad, sticky rice or even laap. Over the years it somehow became a popular and now sold at most thai restaurants even sai oua/sai gok (lao sausages) and NAM KHAO which are all lao dishes! It could be that many of these thai restaurants are owned by Lao so people assume it's thai
@helloeveryone906
@helloeveryone906 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video 💯
@alexlongthorne2150
@alexlongthorne2150 Жыл бұрын
Witnessing your rise from Earl to Duke to Prince to Absolute Monarch has been wonderful. Continue killing it brother 💪😎
@vianabdullah2837
@vianabdullah2837 Жыл бұрын
It's a classic case of cultures not really having hard borders in the same way governments do. People in the same general area are going to eat the same types of food. Another example would be rendang, which is a dish that's native to Indonesia, Malaysia, and some of the surrounding countries. No one state can claim full ownership of it because the food existed before modern day borders.
@siulungchannel88
@siulungchannel88 11 ай бұрын
Thank you bro for your kindness and respect information for Laotian
@dathang
@dathang Жыл бұрын
One again, really good video. Shooting tip... get a gimbal or a gimbal camera. Cheers and Adventure on!
@Mana13un
@Mana13un Жыл бұрын
In Thailand we have many versions of Som Tam, one of them which we call Thai Som Tam is sweeter and tastes milder than other versions, and it’s mainly only eaten in bangkok
@awax9221
@awax9221 11 ай бұрын
Difference in Thai papaya salad vs lao/isan is Thai versions don’t use fermented fish. Lao/isan make it the same. They also eat sticky rice everyday. Thais rarely eat sticky rice.
@iROChakri
@iROChakri 11 ай бұрын
​@@awax9221 What do you mean Thai rarely eat sticky rice. Sticky rice is everywhere in I-san and center. Actually its everywhere lol
@awax9221
@awax9221 11 ай бұрын
@@iROChakri isan people eat sticky rice central Thai real Thai people that do not speak isan do not eat sticky rice and if they do it’s rare.
@iROChakri
@iROChakri 11 ай бұрын
@@awax9221 And Isan people are Thai people. So Thai people do eat lots of sticky rice. They are all real Thai people.
@awax9221
@awax9221 11 ай бұрын
@@iROChakri Then why r they called isan and not Thai? And why does a person from Bangkok call someone from northeastern Thailand khon isan. The language and food is also different. So yea a thai person especially from Bangkok with no connection to isan do not eat sticky rice and if they do it’s a rare occasion. Only places that eat sticky rice everyday is Laos and northeastern part of Thailand “isan” which are ethnically lao but now part of Thailand.
@TaleOfTheToaster
@TaleOfTheToaster Жыл бұрын
7000 subscribers and he’s already travelling to other countries to film videos, love that for you
@JasonRoofie
@JasonRoofie Жыл бұрын
This video was already in production 10 days ago when he had 150 subs.
@anthonyzheng7004
@anthonyzheng7004 Жыл бұрын
Great video, ur going to massive. Keep it up
@luxluv1012
@luxluv1012 5 ай бұрын
Great video!
@tomoe7255
@tomoe7255 Жыл бұрын
I discover your channel throught your portuguese food, and I really like your approach to culture, history and food, keep up the good work buddy!
@jellyedu12pt76
@jellyedu12pt76 Жыл бұрын
Bro very good chanel i found your chanel by the portuguese cousine video keep up doing videos like this very good video
@annalopes4035
@annalopes4035 Жыл бұрын
Bonjour 👋 from France. A verry good and interesting video. I agree with what you say at the end. May I add with who you share your food.😊 And what about a rapid recipe ? Thanks a lot...looking forward for your next video 😊 Ana
@tiff-toe
@tiff-toe Ай бұрын
New subscriber! Papaya salad in Laos is really spicy, so to be safe you should always tell them how many chili you want. Thank you for making this video, it means a lot to me as a Laotian. We are peaceful and forgiving people that why we rarely show our pain from those bombs.
@LLLanguagesT
@LLLanguagesT Жыл бұрын
Papaya was first introduced in Asia through the Philippines. Its seeds, along with other native plants from the Americas, were brought by the Spaniards from Mexico through the "Manila Galleon" in the 16th century. In the Philippines, we also call the fruit "papaya" or "kapayas" (the latter is also used in East Malaysia and Brunei), which is the same (or similar) word in Native American languages like Carib and Arawak. From the Philippines, local and Chinese traders may have traded the plant all over Asia through China in the north and Borneo in the south. Also, around the same century, the Portuguese still owned Malacca in West Malaysia. Then from Malacca, the plant reached modern day Thailand, that's why it's called มะละกอ (malako) in Thai, which comes from the name of the place itself "Malacca/Melaka". However, I'm quite unsure about how it reached modern day Isan and Laos, probably they got it either from the Chinese or Vietnamese in the north or from Ayutthaya or Cambodia in the south (most probably the latter since Isan and Lao apparently borrowed the word หุ่ง/ຫຸ່ງ (hung) from Khmer).
@dofinoah
@dofinoah Жыл бұрын
While in peninsula Malaysia the word "Betik" are use to refer a papaya. Which were adopted from arabic "بطيخ" (bateekh) meaning "watermelon".
@cambodianpleasuresquad1753
@cambodianpleasuresquad1753 Жыл бұрын
cambodia had very close interactions with the spanish philippines. spain even tried to conquer cambodia and turn it into a colony. look up the spanish cambodian war in the 1500s
@LLLanguagesT
@LLLanguagesT Жыл бұрын
@kepalakentang That's very interesting! In the Philippines, Spanish people are usually called "Kastilà". This is probably from "Castela" in Galician, which is translated as "Castilla" (Kingdom of Castille) in Spanish.
@LLLanguagesT
@LLLanguagesT Жыл бұрын
@kepalakentang Also, sweet potatoes are called "kamote" which is the same word used in Mexico and other countries in Latin America. The origin of the word comes from Nahuatl "camohtli".
@jimmichael276
@jimmichael276 Жыл бұрын
Some old Lao people believe papaya first reached Laos through Cambodia. """....Papaya, among other fruits, were cultivated in Cambodia by Chinese settlers who immigrated in the 1500s from Hainan, China. The Lao name for papaya is mak hung and was likely derived from l'hun or lohung/rohung as papayas are called by Cambodians and Cambodian indigenous people living in provinces bordering the Southeastern region of Laos....""" Many European explorers went to Laos through the Cambodia- Southern Laos area.
@RodrigoMartins-sx6vu
@RodrigoMartins-sx6vu Жыл бұрын
Wow your edits and style of video are so good! they remind me of Johnny Harris, how did you learn these skills?
@enkryptron
@enkryptron 7 ай бұрын
"I'm not saying that papaya salad is definitely from Laos or even that Thailand stole it from Laos." Went on to title the video "How Thailand Stole Food From Laos".
@lindalately
@lindalately 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you so incredibly much for bringing more exposure to the history of Laos! Especially the bombing part, almost wanted to cry!! Seriously, but! It’s funny how you made a whole documentary of papaya salad but you don’t even really like papaya salad 😂 according to google, papaya salad was invented in Laos but yes it can be agreed that Thailand made it more popular but you know what, another neighboring southeast Asian country makes their own version of it too, Cambodia. 😅 but nice job, throughly enjoyed the video & the educational aspects of this.
@mimirose4012
@mimirose4012 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@awax9221
@awax9221 Жыл бұрын
The Thais didn’t steal papaya salad they stole lao land and the people who speak the same language and eat the same food as what we like to call ourselves “children of sticky rice” and named them isan to differentiate them from the lao people.
@vandenhuud8570
@vandenhuud8570 10 ай бұрын
😅 Thai didn't stole. It conquered ha2
@attasithbkk1
@attasithbkk1 9 ай бұрын
One of most idiots....hahaha.
@natchan1150
@natchan1150 8 ай бұрын
I was born in Thai Isan. If you ask me if I want my home to be part of Laos country or not. Short answer is “No”. I’m proud to be Thai and the past is the past. And you shouldn’t use the word steal.
@shonietojve
@shonietojve 4 ай бұрын
Why on the video it said " Did Thailand steal Papaya Salad ? " Country can not steal ! But people can ! As far as I know a Thai worker stole Blue Diamond ( Diamond of Royal Saudi Arabia. ) and many pounds of jewelry from Saudi's Royal Palace. This story is true. Here is the article from Google ... In 1989, Kriangkrai Techamong, a Thai worker, stole 91 kg (200 pounds) of jewellery and other valuable gems from the palace of Prince Faisal bin Fahd, where he was employed as a servant. Kriangkrai had access to the prince's bedroom and hid the stolen jewelry in a vacuum cleaner bag at the palace. Who is the queen of Thailand blue diamond? In what has become known as the Blue Diamond Affair, widespread rumors in Bangkok are that the gem was presented to Queen Sirikit, the wife of the late King Bhumibol Adulyadej, by top officials of the Thai police, which would explain why the Saudis saw the affair as going to the very top in Thailand and wasn't just ...Feb 22, 2022 What is the story of the blue diamond in Saudi Arabia? At the heart of the story is an ultra-rare 50-carat blue diamond that the Saudis say was stolen from a palace in Riyadh by a Thai janitor, later stolen again by Thai police, and which has never been returned. For many years it has been rumoured that Queen Sirikit had taken the diamond for herself. Why did Saudi cut ties with Thailand? According to Arab News: It is to be recalled that the negligence of Thai authorities to investigate a number of security cases, where some Saudi citizens were victims, led to the deterioration of relations between the Kingdom and Thailand for more than 20 years. What is the punishment for theft in Saudi Arabia? Theft (stealing in secret) is punished by the amputation of the offender's right hand, and armed or highway robbery may be punished by execution, crucifixion, or amputation of hands and feet from opposite sides of the body, depending on the severity of the offense.
@Andytizer
@Andytizer Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that so many countries' national dishes are very recent inventions.. even chillies are north American too and also probably brought to Asia by Portuguese traders.
@sssf85k
@sssf85k Жыл бұрын
Another note, Lao people call papaya salad Tum Mak Hoong not Som Tum or Tum Som. We call it by the fruit is being used. Not by the taste of it. Best papaya salad is Tum Muang Luang from Luang Prabang
@awax9221
@awax9221 11 ай бұрын
Same with isan. Only Thais call it som tum.
@IndyPiasaka-eb4li
@IndyPiasaka-eb4li 9 ай бұрын
You got that wrong, some regions of Laos still call papaya salad "tum som", even some parts of Issan and Northern Thailand. There's even a video in Thai explaining the history of som tum, and it came from the Lao word Tum som. Tum som is more used in Northern Laos than Southern Laos. I can't find the video right now because I can't write in Thai. Thai likes to say certain thing backward, for example, "ping gai (grilled chicken" in Lao, they call "gai ping". "Ping moo (grilled pork), in Lao, "moo ping" in Thai.
@user-me7rg8sd2j
@user-me7rg8sd2j Жыл бұрын
Thai and Laos are same race. We came form south China long long time ago. Our ancestors is Tai people and Tai people 's ancestors is Yue people. Now Yue people was known as Chuang people in China.
@BearBear1998
@BearBear1998 4 ай бұрын
In Lao, it’s is called Thum Mak Hoong not som tam. Isaan used to be part of Laos. Thank you.
@raphaelatienza
@raphaelatienza Жыл бұрын
If you don't like it spicy, maybe try Cambodia's version (Bok Lahong). It is quite delicious. Some versions might include dried 🦐, 🦀, or softshell 🦀.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw 10 ай бұрын
I had Alot of Cambodia friend They never had this dish until they hang around LAOS people, And Some of my friend married Cambodia women and that's how they learn how to make Papaya salad.
@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183
@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183 9 ай бұрын
@@SKYBaal-ms6xw Not true. We do have Cambodian Papaya salad and many versions of this type of salad to compliment various meals which proves our history and knowledge of the dish and not just a copycat version. Your Cambodian friends probably don't cook or are probably part Chinese or Vietnamese. If their Cambodian side does not cook, then they wouldn't have authentic Cambodian recipes passed on to them.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw 9 ай бұрын
@@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183 They are true Cambodian cause they're like to eat turtle.with Ginger.and.curry
@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183
@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183 9 ай бұрын
​@@SKYBaal-ms6xw Seeing the ingredients, I would say Chinese immigrants living in Cambodia would eat that combination. Cambodians would never eat this as it doesn't make sense flavor-wise. It's like some people may like adding pickled carrots to their Italian spaghetti, but Italians would never eat it that way. Chinese people have a specific flavor preference and I'm not surprised your friends had to modify a Cambodian dish to suit their palate. This dish speaks loudly that they are not Cambodian.
@benle7
@benle7 9 ай бұрын
@@ancientgardensculinaryarts2183 Cambodians imitating all kind of Vietnamese salad dishes. Papaya salad with pork and shrimp, papaya salad with beef jerky, mango salad with pork and shrimp or with dried shrimp, Lotus stem salad with pork and shrimp, Vietnamese Chicken salad are all Vietnamese dishes.
@jimb0e186
@jimb0e186 Жыл бұрын
This channel is gonna be big any second now
@poom323
@poom323 Ай бұрын
One thing that should considered about this topic, people can walk. even there are no big migration doesn't mean no people move from there to there, and also doesn't mean no people move back and forth.
@pichsopheak
@pichsopheak 10 ай бұрын
You should try more than one places in each country.
@lancesay
@lancesay 8 ай бұрын
Firstly, kudos to you for going the extra mile, traveling from your home base to two countries, all for the love of papaya salad. You have a passion for food exploration! However, I'd like to clarify something. The 'Thai' version you showcased is the Luang Prabang (LP) style, not the traditional Thai. The distinguishing factor is in the slicing technique. The LP version slices the papaya in strips, whereas the authentic papaya salad demands the fruit to be finely chopped and cut into thin strips. I understand the creative liberties some might take, but it's disheartening when the core ingredient, papaya, is substituted or diluted with additions like carrots or glass noodles. Just a pet peeve of mine! For reference, the traditional Thai version is generally sweeter and has a lighter color, with fermented padak substituted with fish sauce. Next time, ask Thai and Lao vendors to prepare both versions and see what might be intriguing if they offer both versions. It would make for an interesting comparison. I have a soft spot for the Lao version. An interesting historical tidbit: after the secret war in Laos, many Laotians migrated and started restaurants in various parts of the world. Despite serving authentic Laotian dishes, they'd often label their establishments as 'Thai' because the cuisine was more widely recognized. So, there's a rich tapestry of history and culture behind these dishes that might take time to be apparent. It's always enlightening to delve deeper into the origins and evolutions of such beloved cuisines. Keep exploring, and thanks for sharing your journey with us! You should have that rooster and turn it into peang khai the Lao version.
@bigoof9486
@bigoof9486 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about my country!!!!!!
@er66an
@er66an Жыл бұрын
So interesting
@chadnature81
@chadnature81 8 ай бұрын
Honestly all the old temple ruins in lao and Thailand all belong to Cambodia. The three country share similarities. Old people say the three country are brother and sister.
@Zorarockerify
@Zorarockerify Жыл бұрын
Big Johnny Harris vibes. Sorry if you don't like the comparison. I love Som Tum ❣️ loved the vid!
@MillhouseSpeaks
@MillhouseSpeaks Жыл бұрын
What happened to the Portugal video!
@swingsets1102
@swingsets1102 Жыл бұрын
It's still up...
@marvinfok65
@marvinfok65 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know that papaya comes from the Americas! The spicies of food that was brought from the Americas had such a huge impact on the world! So many food that we eat regularly comes from the Americas like corn, tomatoes & potatoes.
@monmon3681k
@monmon3681k 26 күн бұрын
I love papaya salad and we have our version in Cambodia too 🥲 I love it
@kkhounlo
@kkhounlo 2 ай бұрын
Where did you get information from?
@richardkim412
@richardkim412 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I have tried both Thai and Laotian style papaya salad. I prefer Thai. I do love Issan/Esan food because it is more garlicky. I think what is really innovative is how Thailand invented Pad Thai for marketing purposes and nation building in the 1930s. Either way, I do love Laotian food as well. In fact, all of SE Asian food is so tasty. Can you do a video on how the Portuguese influenced Korean kimchi? Before the Portuguese brought peppers to Asia, kimchi wasn't red and it wasn't spicy!
@latdavankaodara3617
@latdavankaodara3617 Жыл бұрын
You said you do love issan food, basically. Those people who call themselves issan used to be Laotian
@wegotit2587
@wegotit2587 Жыл бұрын
Isaan is Lao food mixed with some Thai influences, but across the River, modern Lao food is heavily mixed with Vietnamese and French influences.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw Жыл бұрын
U can love what ever u want.. but Papaya salad is original Laos....Thai made it sweet and add on peanut...In Laos there are a lot of variation every chef cook differently..
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw 4 ай бұрын
12:43 I think u can said, Thai papaya salad is LAOS inspired salad... Without the femented fish saurce.. Adopted and adapted.by Thailand..
@sonevongkot6046
@sonevongkot6046 3 ай бұрын
Papaya salad is originated from Laos. Isan are Lao people, before , that's why, they eat similar food. Sticky rice, laab, papaya Salad and kang nor mai. Are Lao food. Because Thai people are popular, that's why, people are well known. Som tum was copy papaya salad from Laos. Som tum they are making like salad. Very light..Lao people called, ( papaya salad) we called " tum mark hoong". All Isan people called, papaya salad" tum mark hoong" too
@zerocool497
@zerocool497 6 ай бұрын
You know how people criticize white folks about not seasoning their dish? Thai papaya salad is the white version. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
@peterkhotsombath1134
@peterkhotsombath1134 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video and thank you. Since you're not Lao or Thai person, your narrative is based on historical facts of people who cook and consume. Tam Som was and is looked down upon food from real Thai elites. The real Thais eat only imported beef from Japan and Argentina.
@hunhoon6283
@hunhoon6283 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO!! 😭❤️ It sucks knowing that Lao culture and history has been erased and nonexistent in the world. There's so many foods that are marketed as "Thai" in the West, but are of Lao origin. Papaya salad, larb, ping gai, etc. It's so strange how our foods are so loved and well-received, but the word "Lao" is basically derogatory in Thailand, and many Isan people had to leave their Lao identity behind out of shame. The reason why there are 6x more Lao people in Thailand than in Laos is due to the failure of the Lao rebellion in 1828, which led to the Siamese government to forcibly move a majority of the Lao population to the west of the Mekong and to Bangkok to work as slaves. Lao people will fight to have our history and culture be heard and recognized.
@sssf85k
@sssf85k Жыл бұрын
You have to also admit that our parents didn't help put our identity out there when they opened a restaurant wherever they settled. They called it a Thai restaurant instead of Lao, but also made some dishes that were from Laos. It was understandable at the time, only Westerners heard of Thailand but not Laos. This should not longer be the case, and I'm proud of our loon Mai generation is putting us out there as Lao food not Thai or shared with Thai.
@hunhoon6283
@hunhoon6283 Жыл бұрын
@@sssf85k True, I understand the whole "Thai restaurant" label thing they had to do to attract customers. I'm happy to see that there are more restaurants that are straight up presented as Lao now!
@nawaphonrujiwong2367
@nawaphonrujiwong2367 10 ай бұрын
Is Laos only one country in the entire world Grilled chicken (Ping Gai)? 😮😂😂😂
@hunhoon6283
@hunhoon6283 10 ай бұрын
@@nawaphonrujiwong2367 let's use some critical thinking here, obviously when I say ping gai I'm talking about how it's marinated and prepared, how it tastes and how it's cooked. obviously "grilled chicken" isn't only a lao thing, but the way lao people make it has become popularized in thailand.
@jowmeinp
@jowmeinp 7 ай бұрын
YES 100% at the feeling “strange at how our foods are so well-loved and received but the word “Lao” is basically derogatory in Thailand” part!!!!!!!!! As a Lao person I [personally] have seen so many Lao/Cambodian culture videos and the ones that don’t mention any similarities with Thai culture, there would be comments saying “Thai people do this too” or something of that nature. The videos I [personally] have seen online of Thai culture, seldom do Thai people *ever* mention similarities with Lao or Khmer culture. As a person who’s in their late 20s, growing up I have definitely have heard my parents talk about how Thai people think they’re better than us. I’ve felt this too. It’s exhausting trying to convince people who don’t want you sitting at their table, and these people expect to be able to sit at yours. We value so many of the same things in our culture yet get little to no respect because we are not a rich country. Like imagine how powerful TLC (Thai/Lao/Cambodian) would be if we all helped each other out and worked together.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Thai label it as a country food.. do to ferment fish sauce..when food become popular Thai change the name to Some Tam...Now sale all over...Laos has so many style .. north south and central cook different.. .
@to_cya_
@to_cya_ Жыл бұрын
In the past, people in the northern and Isan (North Eastern in Sanskrit) once referred by people in the central as Laotian. Then, the nationalism happened, and everyone in every corner of Thailand had been told that they are “Thai” by the government. By the way, Using the word “stole” is a little bit controversial, just brace yourself for the flood of comments.
@hunhoon6283
@hunhoon6283 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Siamese government wanted to erase the Lao people of Thailand's identity hence why they all just refer to them as Isan now.
@wegotit2587
@wegotit2587 11 ай бұрын
@@hunhoon6283Thai government stopped counting Lao population for the census back in the mid 90s. If they had continued on with accurate census counts, it is estimated the Lao population is actually higher than the Central Thai population, hence why Lao is no longer counted but lumped in the general term as “Tai.” Interestingly enough, all Tai populations (including Lao) always us “Tai” to mean “people of” and ONLY use this terminology to refer to related ethnic/tribal kin folks’ place of origins (never used for other ethnic groups or nationalities)…but yet Central Thais themselves are the only ones who don’t use or understand the concept of “Tai” when referring to themselves. I believe there is a reason for this though (and technology has caught up enough to back some Lao people’s claims that the Central Thais aka the Syam Thais aren’t related to Tai-Lao ethnic tribes at all (originally of course). DNA analysis have shown they are of primarily Mon-Malay origins with recent Southern Chinese admixture. And anyone who understands the linguistics of how languages evolve at all, it is very clear the modern Thai language is a Creole language of some form, a mixture of Tai-Lao, Mon-Khmer and a little of Hakka Chinese.
@coucoubrandy1079
@coucoubrandy1079 11 ай бұрын
That's true, I also found the " stole " thing strange. And tbh ,I never associated papaya salad with Thailand or Asia, for that matter .I lived in Malawi as a kid, and we would have it as well. Semi -ripe ones so less sour. I think that in many countries where people have it, they don't really question about it's origins. I'd like to see the Mexican version of this dish. Another thing, if a dish is too spicy/hot, you should never ever drink water ! A piece of bread ,or a few sips of milk, even natural joghurt, is the best way to soothe your mouth. For the de-mining program, Laos is still littered with unexplosed anti-personal ones, I think that they have started to use the giant african rats, which were used in Mozambique and successfully too. Because even today, there's people in Laos who lose a leg, here, life there. The US has the moral obligation to help them.
@SKYBaal-ms6xw
@SKYBaal-ms6xw 10 ай бұрын
@@coucoubrandy1079 Yep, my dad told me a story when Thai ran sak Vietiane they took all the important documents and recorded history to Thailand..I'm not sure they burn it!! ITS call Bhai Ruan..
@coucoubrandy1079
@coucoubrandy1079 10 ай бұрын
@SKYBaal-ms6xw I don't know anything about the history of Laos, or of South East Asia tbh, it's a pity that we don't hear much about it. I have a question : can you read Thai or Cambodian script ? Because they look a bit the same to me
@zopheak
@zopheak 4 ай бұрын
From my understanding growing up around Laos folks, papaya salad was usually called ຕຳຫມາກຫຸ່ງ (tam mak hoong). My theory is that now more people are saying ຕໍາສົ້ມ (tam som) so Thais will know what it means.
@ironbuffaloXX
@ironbuffaloXX Жыл бұрын
The first papaya salad you ate in Thailand at 3:40min is Luang Prabuang style salad and where is Luang Prabuang? Hmmm. Thailand is famous because of issan food and culture.
@justaperson8232
@justaperson8232 9 ай бұрын
But Isan doesn't Lao anymore after separated. The food in Isaan was developed by combined with thai food culture and ingredients so the food the invented by Isaan is "Thai Isaan food".
@christopheran-traumer4377
@christopheran-traumer4377 Жыл бұрын
Papaya salad is also widely eaten in Vietnam
@kittyphom
@kittyphom 10 ай бұрын
6:30 “save yourself” lmao
@ac7440
@ac7440 10 ай бұрын
How can Laos make fish sauce to use in Papaya salad ?
@shonietojve
@shonietojve 4 ай бұрын
That's one of the very dumbest question s I've ever read in KZfaq.
@ac7440
@ac7440 4 ай бұрын
​@@shonietojve Go buy youtube premium first little kid lol.
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not gonna use English too loudly here" Something tells me that's not actually an issue, similar to how most Vietnamese have forgiven/don't care about Americans anymore. Hell, if you visit Cambodia, people there will outright tell you that they hate the Viets more than Pol Pot because they 'invaded their country'. Crazy Love the video btw definitely please make more!
@eathsao3562
@eathsao3562 5 ай бұрын
Before Laos and Thailand there was Khmer, that teaches them to do papaya salad damn Khmer in that region before thai and lao exist
@shonietojve
@shonietojve 4 ай бұрын
That's correct.
@ClockSeeker
@ClockSeeker Жыл бұрын
It always coming to one or two things, Pride of their heritage or Rivalry against the neighbor.
@nolankuo937
@nolankuo937 Жыл бұрын
This channel is Johnny Harris but for food.
@benedikthoppe8946
@benedikthoppe8946 2 ай бұрын
Fan of your videos, but sometimes things seem poorly researched: Isaan food is not looked down upon. This is a point that could have been made a long time ago, but by now it is the most popular regional cuisine across Thailand. It's the most popular category in Grab and what feels like half of all street food is Isaan now. Likely supported by Isaan people being the biggest migrant group in most places. Granted, it hasn't arrived in many high-end restaurants, but average people hold Isaan food in high regard.
@kev4850
@kev4850 8 ай бұрын
Even the Cambodians and Viets Ik have always referred to papaya salad as Lao food. It's Lao food, Often you'll hear Thai people say "Thai version doesn't have pla ra(padaek) but just because it has only fish sauce doesn't make it non Lao. That's so dumb. Taking one ingredient out doesn't change it's origin. There are many Lao people who don't eat padaek sometimes
@amkha69
@amkha69 8 ай бұрын
The questions is whose papaya salad taste better?
@alkayamassaly4185
@alkayamassaly4185 Жыл бұрын
Mmm. Laotian food...
@sleepwell2011
@sleepwell2011 Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍
@LoneStar96
@LoneStar96 Ай бұрын
It belong to both but more of Esan than Thailand. The type of food that is call "thais" are actually Lao but from Isan/Esan. Back in the 50-60-70 people that go to work in bangkok are from the region. They naturally make and sell them to those that miss the backhome cooking. When the rest of the world see this in Bangkok so naturally they going to call it a Thai food not knowing the history of the region and people. Esan/Isan was populated by Lao speaking people. But today they speak mixed of Thai and Lao. But if you speak to the elder and listen to their music especially MORLAM style music, they sing in Lao. Thai change their name from Siam and the region they didnt carer about, they rename it as ESAN/ISAN. The name change during the time because they need to united to the area. There was rumor and conflict that the region want to break away from Thailand. They give it a name ESAN/ISAN for the Lao speaking area because the people are not Thai but they cannot be Lao because Laos might want it back. And I am tire of Laos being labeled as the most bombed country in the history/world. I wish people stop using that. I dont want Laos to be known as that. Laos is more than that.
@nightowl7261
@nightowl7261 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter. Thai and Lao people are of the same people in ancient times.
@tokayrepublic
@tokayrepublic 3 ай бұрын
It’s a Lao dish. Thailand have 23 million ethnic Lao population and being on of the top tourism powerhouses country while lao have 6-7 million ethnic Lao population. somehow through migration SomTam became staple dish for middle class in BKK. you can easily logically work this out.
@Kraken_Loose
@Kraken_Loose 10 ай бұрын
“Stop talking shit with other country”
@lemongrass568
@lemongrass568 2 ай бұрын
would you call tacos in america and tacos in mexico different cuisine?
@jpnphom5470
@jpnphom5470 Жыл бұрын
There are the same people but separated by French colonists
@ziudihrgaduzuixar3548
@ziudihrgaduzuixar3548 8 ай бұрын
I'm Thai-Esan and have visited Laos many times. In my opinion, I think some Laotians like to use monosodium glutamate in their dishes. And then I don't feel much difference between Lao and Isan food.
@amkha69
@amkha69 8 ай бұрын
of course isan was part of laos!
@iROChakri
@iROChakri 6 ай бұрын
​@@amkha69 Whole Laos was part of Thailand lol
@jacksonsihalath5033
@jacksonsihalath5033 4 ай бұрын
@@iROChakriLaos used to be under Siam’s power it’s doesn’t means Laos was a part of Thailand we are different cultures and Laos have their own life style
@troyphonethong7893
@troyphonethong7893 Жыл бұрын
Gotta eat it with sticky rice
@americathemeltingpot
@americathemeltingpot 11 ай бұрын
Per Wikipedia’s it’s Lao food because Lao invented it, the whole salad, fish sauce etc. The Thai called it a dirty dish less than a century ago, a lower class Lao/ Northeastern Thailand food. Northeastern/Isan they’re Lao ethnic, they speak Lao daily basis.
@thanhhua7684
@thanhhua7684 Жыл бұрын
🆙
@bellaphone5719
@bellaphone5719 6 ай бұрын
💯 laos absolutely delicious cheers especially lao sausage Omg
@darithjimchhou1034
@darithjimchhou1034 Жыл бұрын
Cambodian, Thai, and Lao have their own spin on papaya salad and other similar dishes. The Thais are known to modernize and claim everything as their own.
@happy4ever305
@happy4ever305 11 ай бұрын
So true. For example: Amok is Cambodian national dish. Thai copied it and called Hormok and said Cambodian copied from Thailand, just unbelievable. They call Thai ancient letters😂 it’s Khmer letters. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8h7qLGKlb7anp8.html
@Oogwood
@Oogwood 11 ай бұрын
More like cambodia,lol
@Gojek-fp1bm
@Gojek-fp1bm 10 ай бұрын
Stop bs bro.😊
@happy4ever305
@happy4ever305 10 ай бұрын
@@Gojek-fp1bm จริงๆ bro .. u the 1 should stop bs 😂😂
@Gojek-fp1bm
@Gojek-fp1bm 10 ай бұрын
@@happy4ever305 🥴 sad for your ancestors
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