Why Oboes Are So Expensive | So Expensive

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A specialized woodwind with a wistful yet powerful tone, the oboe is one of the most expensive instruments you can buy. Professional-grade oboes can sell for almost $14,000. That's more than four times the price of some professional flutes. So, what goes into making oboes? And why are they so expensive?
Editor's Note: The voice over at 0:21 states that a Howarth oboe is "more than four times the price of a high-end flute". This is an inaccuracy; prices of professional flutes vary widely.
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@beatriceotter8718 Жыл бұрын

If you're wondering why they crack so easily and need such exclusive wood, the answer is bore diameter. The body of a clarinet has the same diameter all the way from top to bottom (excluding the bell at the bottom and the mouthpiece). This gives it great structural stability. An oboe, on the other hand, has a constantly increasing diameter as you go from top to bottom. So it's a lot more fragile. That's why they have to age it and can only use really hard and resilient wood to make it.

@HWHY Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to share this information.

@filip6307 Жыл бұрын

the diameter of a clarinet is also increasing to the bottom, probably just not quite as much but still quite a bit

@gabrielbotsford791 Жыл бұрын

cone versus tube. overall. yes, they both taper outwards, but one is mostly conical, one is mostly tubular

@chrisperyagh Жыл бұрын

While the bore diameter and outside diameter increase from top to bottom with around a 1 : 40 taper, the wall thickness remains pretty much the same across the majority of the length of the main joints, so they're no less fragile than any other wooden tube made with the same wall thickness along its length. Wooden flutes made with a 19mm cylindrical bore have a much thinner wall and are far more fragile than oboes, so the shape of the bore isn't the factor here - the wall thickness and also the diameters of the toneholes and their proximities to one another is where the strength (or weakness) lies. The bore diameter at the top end of the bore (immediately below the reed well) is just under 4mm compared to the outer diameter of around 19mm to 22mm (depending on the make and model) when measured at the same point which makes the wall thickness between 7.5mm to 9mm which is just as thick or even thicker than the wall thickness of a Buffet clarinet.

@diskoeric2248 Жыл бұрын

yeah. they said that.

@Real28 Жыл бұрын

The smirk after "one tap?!" Is classic. That's the smirk of a worker who has immense knowledge and experience.

@theduckcompany Жыл бұрын

Also a little bit of "glad we got a one-tapper for the camera" in there i think.

@WatchMeDIYIt Жыл бұрын

This is a perfect example of the "I charged you $1 for the tap, but $99 for knowing how to do it."

@madpistol Жыл бұрын

Craftsman: "That'll be $100." Purchaser: "But it was only 1 tap!!!" Craftsman: "Took me 20 years to perfect it too."

@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын

It's the smirk of a soon to be obsolete skill.

@unlink1649 Жыл бұрын

anybody can tap. knowing how hard and where to tap takes years of training

@mikenunya5606 Жыл бұрын

Now I understand why my stepmother was so angry and heartbroken when hers was stolen. I always wondered why out of all the other instruments that were stolen why she was only concerned about her oboe, now I know.

@yamiyo6050 Жыл бұрын

How many instruments did she have

@nyaanekonya Жыл бұрын

it sounds like she had a habit to get her instruments stolen

@mikenunya5606 Жыл бұрын

@@nyaanekonya it was all at one time, she was loaded up for a gig.

@mikenunya5606 Жыл бұрын

@@yamiyo6050 she had only a few stolen from what I remember. She has over a hundred instruments

@mr.mr.4772 Жыл бұрын

You mean when you pawned it.

@zianeovo5547 Жыл бұрын

Student oboe here! Started when I first joined band in middle school and I remember my middle school band director tightening something on my school owned oboe and hearing something pop. From what I was told that was a $6000-$8000 oboe that had be sent to shop and that was the best one we had.

@ChevonneF Жыл бұрын

I was lucky that my Aunt played the oboe and gave me her spare Howarth when I started. Going to the shop when I was 10 with her is a memory I will always remember. I played it for years until I was able to buy a more advanced one. I completed all my grades with that oboe and still have them 20 years later.

@owenkelsey6279 Жыл бұрын

Very cool

@samuraiboi2735 Жыл бұрын

Tbh i might buy that just to keep it as a souvenir lol cus its like a collectors item for me.

@isaacchapman393 Жыл бұрын

White privilege

@smartestmoronx19 Жыл бұрын

Jesus, they get more expensive than these?

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@JLawL Жыл бұрын

We saw a purple heartwood Oboe at an auction made by this same maker. The keys were made of silver, which obsidian inlays. It was a custom order and the owner had a stroke so the family sold it. It took 16 years for that Oboe to be made from harvest to completion. It sold for $62,000!

@TheNuclearBolton Жыл бұрын

Do you have a picture of it?

@castorchua Жыл бұрын

I knew a guy that spent $62,000 on crack. Funny guy.

@libtardslayer3048 Жыл бұрын

Wait, is this the same guy from breaking bad in the video?

@NoName-ym1ls Жыл бұрын

@@castorchua LMAOOOOO, I knew a guy who spent 60k on crack over the course of like 5 weeks. He was also a funny guy

@geomacaulay Жыл бұрын

the owner died when they saw the invoice.

@cerb1221 Жыл бұрын

i played an oboe for 4ish years. looking at and knowing what each little piece does gives you an understanding of the craft. its crazy how intricate they can get.

@alsto8298 Жыл бұрын

Have you heard... the device, you are using right now... has millions of much more important components per each millimeter... and costs few dozens times less. Does this fact trigger your ability to think critically? Maybe it rises some questions?

@cerb1221 Жыл бұрын

@@alsto8298 its different when its assembled by a machine.

@alsto8298 Жыл бұрын

@@cerb1221 Ye, it is different when it is plastic instead of rare wood, despite it will be better in every possible way. It is different when modern production methodology is used instead of old-style hand-picking. It is different when you do need the polishing works due to poor production process. It is all different - in every single case, price goes higher and quality goes lower. Am I wrong in any statement?

@cerb1221 Жыл бұрын

@@alsto8298 stop trying to start shit im not gonna do this.

@alsto8298 Жыл бұрын

@@cerb1221 You are mistaken, It was not me who said "looking at and knowing what each little piece does gives you an understanding of the craft. its crazy how intricate they can get".

@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this. I played oboe for two years, in middle school, because we didn't have an orchestra. The notes for the oboe are similar to those of the violin, which I had played for several years.I had no IDEA how much time and dedication went into making oboes. My parents spent a small fortune on my oboe mouthpieces! They were $10 a piece back in the early 80s.

@BenAtTheTube 4 ай бұрын

$10 cheap! Most professional oboists make their own from pieces of raw reeds, because it is not possible to buy one that meets their personal requirements.

@bobboulden Жыл бұрын

I love how the repairman looks right at you without saying a word, the absolute confidence.

@truebluekit Жыл бұрын

Sir, make no mistake. No repairman was he, but a craftsman.

@IamShanee Жыл бұрын

@@truebluekit artisan?

@truebluekit Жыл бұрын

@@IamShanee artisan is good, too, but we gotta leave something for the people who actually make the entire stuff from scratch to finish. I think so, anyway.

@IamShanee Жыл бұрын

@@truebluekit thats fair

@bobboscarato1313 Жыл бұрын

@@truebluekit Correct!

@KalebChesnicFlutist Жыл бұрын

Love the Oboe (married to an oboist), and LOVE the info from the maker in this video, but will point out that “High end professional flutes” have a starting price around $15,000. Depending on the gold/platinum content, flutes can easily extend beyond $50,000. Most orchestral flutists play flutes with a replacement value of ~$20,000 - $40,000.

@matebagi3892 Жыл бұрын

yeah, as a flute player that made my blood boil lmao

@flutesmith Жыл бұрын

@@matebagi3892 As a professional flute repair tech, I also agree with you. A few hours ago I have just finished the overhaul of Powell 18K flute with 14k mechanism, which costs like more than 60000-70000$ brand new.

@VivaLaVittoria Жыл бұрын

Exactly! I wrote a similar comment just now (before scrolling down and seeing yours). My blood boiled at that!!! Crazy talk. What professional flutist is playing on a $3k flute??? WTF. Try adding a zero to that and then we're getting warmer.

@darkwingscooter9637 Жыл бұрын

I also wrote a bristling comment about this. The funny thing is that $14k is just about the range for high end Grenadilla wood flutes like the Yamaha at $10k, Sankyo at $16k, or Powell at $17k. So it's really quite comparable.

@reillywalker195 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the only professional flutes available for affordable prices are simple-system flutes, and you'd never play one of those in an orchestra. Simple-system flutes are mostly diatonic and with a strong low end, being made for traditional music.

@sammy2840 Жыл бұрын

I’m a trumpet player. Playing an oboe is like walking on a high wire without a net! Beautiful instrument!

@SaxJockey Жыл бұрын

So true; nowhere to hide in the orchestra.

@Leomerya12 Ай бұрын

I'm a clarinetist. Playing a trumpet is like driving a mack truck... anywhere.

@alejandrovenegas2716 Ай бұрын

My oboe professor used to have a saying, it would be translated something like: "The oboe is a beautiful instrument, but it is full of bullshit"

@jpsned 5 ай бұрын

I love this video. I have an Incagnoli oboe made out of black hardwood. It was manufactured sometime during the 1950s. I love not only playing it but also taking care of it.

@heinrichmuller7974 Жыл бұрын

they are truly pieces of "functional" art, i don't think i'll ever look at an oboe the same way again.

@kishascape Жыл бұрын

Same with all these baroque type instruments and their complex keys. Clarinet and bassoon is also another good one, I prefer the original style from the medieval periods before they added keys to them. They look beautiful and more woody.

@samuraiboi2735 Жыл бұрын

Back then i used to watch shows showing that instument but i never know what the name of it was until now and see how even more complicated it is then i ever knew.

@joachimakerlind4453 Жыл бұрын

As with clarinets

@Violamanben Жыл бұрын

It’s very beautiful, but I think violin family instruments are more impressive.

@bobboscarato1313 Жыл бұрын

@@kishascape Without metal keys the instruments will look woodier!

@joshnguyen6203 Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry but you are very incorrect abt this oboe costing more than a high end professional flute. You said this oboe costs 14,000$. A high end professional flute depending on whether it’s gold, silver, or platinum can run from 20,000$ to 80,000$. I’m a professional flutist and my flute was abt 40,000$.

@raynegoins Жыл бұрын

I just made this comment! I was so confused when I heard that, flutes are so expensive!

@lisameyerhofer4621 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this! Professional flutes almost never cost less than $14,000 anymore

@procarpenter1788 Жыл бұрын

The narrator said $40,000, not $14,000.

@joshnguyen6203 Жыл бұрын

@@procarpenter1788 still doesn’t compare to a flute 😒

@tkat6442 Жыл бұрын

@@procarpenter1788 If the narrator said a professional oboe goes for $40,000, they were mistaken for sure. That's more like a bassoon price.

@greglongphee2034 21 күн бұрын

Fascinating. Along with the bassoon, the oboe has long been one of my favourite instruments. It's haunting quality never fails to impart atmosphere to a musical passage.

@Pixeleyes Жыл бұрын

I love the idea that, if there were more oboe players, oboe construction would be more industrialized but there aren't, so we require skilled artisans to produce them. That's fascinating.

@iansysoev9462 4 ай бұрын

There are many oboe players around the world,since every orchestra requires at least two. Industrialization just kills this insane precision and quality that is needed here

@rstevenhanson Жыл бұрын

The instrument is made so well that she can relax and just be the artist she wants to be. That has to be the greatest thing a manufacturer can hear!

@emryswalton1802 Жыл бұрын

My howarth's oboe is over 60 years old, and still works perfectly with a great sound! It belonged to my grandmother, who played professionally and was the oboist playing Gabriel's Oboe on the original soundtrack, using my oboe!

@ericoschmitt Жыл бұрын

I thought that had been recorded by Gordon Hunt? But then looked up and couldn't find an answer about who recorded the original soundtrack

@emryswalton1802 Жыл бұрын

@@ericoschmitt That was a cover, my grandmother was on the soundtrack of the film :)

@andrewfortmusic Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t Gabriel’s Oboe written for English horn, not oboe? Also, I think I heard about your grandmother somewhat recently! Did she retire from the London Symphony Orchestra a few months ago?

@emryswalton1802 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewfortmusic I suppose it was for baroque oboe but was played on a modern one. She retired from the London Philharmonic in 1995

@andrewfortmusic Жыл бұрын

@@emryswalton1802 Was your grandmother Joan Whiting?

@jobmunene3263 Жыл бұрын

These fine instruments sound wonderful ! Worth every penny. Hats off to the fine craftsmen involved. The engineer in me rejoices at the entire production process. From quality (and rare!) raw materials to excellent engineering 👌 processes. 👏 👏

@walshy2116 Жыл бұрын

I am absolutely in love with these types of videos. Things that are so exclusive and expensive and they are things I’ve seen my whole life and never knew or even really thought about.

@JenniferMKirby-zn5wy Жыл бұрын

I absolutely adore my Howarth and the care they put into it is very apparent compared to other professional oboes I have played. I will note there is one fact that is incorrect: the pads under the keys are not paper-thin themselves - they require a surface that can perfectly seal, which is tested with paper.

@tkat6442 Жыл бұрын

The silencer corks under the adjusting screws could be described as approaching paper thinness (or fully paper thinness, depending on what paper we're talking about). But the pads (defined as the component that creates a seal on the openings of the tone holes), no.

@chups4790 Жыл бұрын

I think the guy that makes them for a living knows what he’s talking about

@tkat6442 Жыл бұрын

@@chups4790 so do oboe players. People who put videos together and people who narrate them may get the finer details wrong on something as complex as this, though.

@chups4790 Жыл бұрын

@@tkat6442 he was narrating his own work live? He literally touched on the subject in his own words at 5:49

@tkat6442 Жыл бұрын

@@chups4790 the OP was correct in saying that the pads are not paper thin, but listening to that excerpt, that wasn't what he was saying. He was "fitting them to the thinness of paper", as he put it. That means he uses a piece of paper, cigarette paper to be specific, as a feeler guage to feel all the way around to see that it touches the tone hole edge evenly for a good seal (notice, he draws suction on the instrument after testing with the cigarette paper).

@mformem Жыл бұрын

i've played an oboe for 4 years, but up until now i've found the true answer as to why oboes are expensive. they're truly underrated and under-appreciated instruments

@chribm Жыл бұрын

They may be under-rated, but not under-appreciated. I am a sax player, primarily the soprano. My goal has always been to mimick the sound of the oboe. With reed choice, custom mouthpiece, neck adjustments, etc. I have come very close. Why would I do this? Simply because I don't play the oboe and can't afford a good one. So I do the best that I am able to. But please, don't believe that it is under-appreciated. I feel that a well played oboe is one of the most beautiful sounds that can be heard.

@Klara_S. Жыл бұрын

@@chribm ayyyy a fellow saxist I'm a tenor player who transitioned to oboe not long ago. It's soooooo much easier on the hands, though it has a less convenient fingerings system and mouthwork but it's still similar. With experience on the actual instrument, I'm sure it'll aid your efforts to get your soprano closer.

@Blokfluitgroep Жыл бұрын

@@chribm Ah nice! As a oboe player, I actually like the classical soprano saxophone sound. Yes, in the higher register it sounds like an oboe, but for me, it sounds In the lower register more like an English horn (alto oboe). Just one remark: yes, oboes are expensive, but you can get a good one for far less the price they mentioned. I also think the reed is even more important: if you have an acceptable oboe problems are more occurring with the reed than with the oboe.

@MAGGOT_VOMIT Жыл бұрын

I don't have any musical talent nor an ear for music, but after hearing the lady in the vid playing it, would I be wrong in thinking it was the key instrument playing the "tones" in the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"??

@PreservationEnthusiast Жыл бұрын

@@MAGGOT_VOMIT That was an ARP 500 Synthesizer.

@battlebeard2041 Жыл бұрын

From the perspective of a machinist with lots of experience in turning metal and plastic it was pretty wild seeing African Blackwood cut with indexable inserts on a CNC lathe.

@cristoff3 Жыл бұрын

This was a great watch. More Business Insider, more!

@madpistol Жыл бұрын

The sub-millimeter precision of these instruments is amazing. They are built to incredibly exacting standards... You're not paying for the materials of the instrument. You're paying for the countless hours and precise craftsman skills required to meet such a standard. Quite the work of art.

@ARockyRock Жыл бұрын

well, not JUST the materials at least. they definitely play a part in the price lol.

@idleprepress Жыл бұрын

and now imagine what it used to take like a century or two ago, without all that high-precision CNC machining and stuff.

@Tacos888 Жыл бұрын

Well and the use of a cnc machine ;)

@pathologicaldoubt Жыл бұрын

Well put

@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын

Skills akin to swiss watch making.

@Fake-qn9qw Жыл бұрын

I think you should make this a series with different instruments

@jacobbass6437 Жыл бұрын

Yeah because let’s face it, all professional instruments are expensive like the $30,000 tubax saxophones made Benedikt Eppelsheim.

@venM9 Жыл бұрын

Yes and like Gola accordions which go for 58000 to 65000 dollars.

@Violamanben Жыл бұрын

@@venM9 and then there are violins where the sky is the limit. Most professional violinists have instruments that are $10,000-$100,000, but that’s honestly at the low end of the spectrum when they can cost so much more.

@elissahunt Жыл бұрын

@@Violamanben I was thinking about violins, too. $14k would be about as cheap as you can go for a professional grade violin. And of course, the top ones go for millions.

@diskoeric2248 Жыл бұрын

they do. did you look at their page?

@bigvrocks2480 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Very interesting. How amazing is the process of and creators of the oboe! Thanks for the insight.

@russelljackman1413 Ай бұрын

Truly amazing! So many gifted artists, on BOTH ends of the oboe!

@SedonaMTB Жыл бұрын

Wonderful video. I was a professional clarinetist at high level and alway marveled at the complexity of the oboe, and bassoon, and scarcity of good players. I was also an aprentice at an instrument repair shop. The one instument I wasn't allowed to work on was the oboe. Incredible instrument.

@boriss.861 Жыл бұрын

The rabbit hole of top quality instruments. There is a whole series there on all instruments... Well Done you've just left the starting blocks.

@sanndit0095 Жыл бұрын

it has the richest wind instrument sound ive ever heared..... it can charm me soo well i could drop my tears just because it's beautiful ... i have goosebombs when ever i hear oboe in orchestras .... now it makes way more sense why , years and hard work have been put into, ❤️

@TheLRider Жыл бұрын

Waaw what utter skill and craftsmanship. The music produced is sublime.

@nonapplicable6619 Жыл бұрын

This video was fascinating to watch. Especially as an oboist myself. Every individual instrument truly is a work of art.

@peace4myheart Жыл бұрын

It's not just an instrument for producing musical art; it's a piece of art in and of itself.

@razpootis5802 Жыл бұрын

I bet you my entire 401k you couldn't tell the difference between one of these and a cheap piece of plastic. You might as well pay 1000% in shipping for your postman to do a lap around the country before delivering your package.

@douwemusic Жыл бұрын

@@razpootis5802 tbf all professional instrumentalists will tell you indeed that the musician is 80+% of the sound, the instrument makes up 20% or less

@JacobCanote Жыл бұрын

Love this series. A joy to see.

@jjforcebreaker Жыл бұрын

Ennio Morricone made me love this instrument. Great vid as usual.

@OboeQueen27 Жыл бұрын

Oboe is in fact one of the hardest instruments to master, not only do you need to work out all the complexity of the fingerings, breath pressure, articulation -to really play Oboe you need to be a proficient reed maker. Making reeds is integral, so the player is not at the whim of the reeds. Some of the reed making equipment can be very costly (40g+ for some set ups depending on how percise you want to be). It's a labour intensive project, to produce a reed from start to finish can also take years, from growing a plant to harvest, and curing. When reduced to the simplest- Oboe is an instrument that is really a refinement of blowing on a blade of grass. It is a labour of love, to build the instruments, reeds, and the 1000s of hours it takes to learn to play. Oboe is analogous to the best parts of man, when we take raw materials, and make such incomprehensible beauty from that. I'm so lucky to have even scratched a surface of playing this wonderful instrument. Thank you, on behalf of all the Oboe players, to all the instrument builders and techs that take on producing these instruments. Thank you for the joy these things can bring the soul.

@drewgreis6792 Жыл бұрын

ha haha yeah 🤣 it took me over ten years to make a decent reed, but I had a great teacher in Ronald Roseman who helped take the mystery out of reed making ¡¡!!

@mywifebeatheroin Жыл бұрын

breathe pressure, articulation [redacted] Oboe

@chopsonyou2007 Жыл бұрын

40,000 for an oboe reed making set up? I wouldn’t pay more than 30,000

@yuwaishun1 Жыл бұрын

@@chopsonyou2007 tbh 30,000 is too much already in my opinion, I can't imagine the price going over 10,000 unless you are a top player and buys extra templates for different reed shape..

@johnrobinsoniii4028 Жыл бұрын

Not only that… but Oboists as well as other Double Reed Instrumentalists make their own Reeds!

@yowo6105 Жыл бұрын

I have a pretty good oboe, not conservatory standard but just below it. I was lucky to meet an older lady who quit playing because of her health and wanted to sell it to someone who would use it well. Another person was in for the bid, but he was a dealer who wouldn't use it for personal use, so the woman sold it to me for 1100 euros.

@thecrankjonkie2391 Жыл бұрын

That is the absolute best thing when you can meet someone that wants to sell you an instrument at a great price BECAUSE they want it to find a good home where it will be enjoyed to the fullest. The same thing is happening fir me too. But in my case a small Raffin hand cranked organ. !

@benholmes6335 11 ай бұрын

I love the flute shade being thrown around

@tylerduncan5908 Жыл бұрын

The sound at the beginning of the video is so satisfying.

@godbluffvdgg Жыл бұрын

Wow, I had no idea!...I've always loved the oboe sound. It's great to see how they're made...Thanks for the upload...

@yam2050 Жыл бұрын

I first heard this instrument in 2008, and has imprinted a lasting memory.

@NathanErtznerMusic Жыл бұрын

I wish to thank all these craftsmanship personally. I played oboe my freshman year of high school, but had no one to teach me to properly play so I gave it up for guitar instead. I miss it now and wish to play one again.

@Ququestion 10 ай бұрын

That look when he fixed the Bend with one tap at 6:38 is Gold.

@zeniktorres4320 Жыл бұрын

I love the oboe but it make me appreciate my violin which is just a sound box and 4 strings strung across two posts. The differences in the number parts and the amount of workmanship and time are staggering. That is some beautiful wood too. Those oboes, a piece of fine art.

@andrewfortmusic Жыл бұрын

Hey there! I’m a violinist and oboist, and I have to say that there is just as much craftsmanship and artistry in a violin as in an oboe. They require very different processes, but they are both beautiful instruments :)

@zeniktorres4320 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewfortmusic I know that. I'm just pointing out the difference in simplicity of producing notes on a box with 4 strings, to something that needs hundreds of intricate parts.

@keishas9138 Жыл бұрын

My son use to play Oboe through middle school and he loved it, I remember he'd always have to remind people that "it's not a clarinet" lol

@Mayobii Жыл бұрын

Oboe is great! (My girlfriend plays it) I always loved it whenever they would get a solo, sounds amazing! My percussionist self could never 😅

@alphabravefrontier7496 Жыл бұрын

I loved playing the oboe so much I played in every band my school had I even learned to play jazz which is not usually an oboe type music after my sophomore year of college though covid hit and my I don't own my own oboe of quality I borrowed PSU's very sad to not be in band now lol

@williamsanborn9195 Жыл бұрын

The oboe is such a beautiful instrument. Both in its sound and its overall look. It’s not easy to make an instrument by hand. That’s one of the reasons why it takes Howarth 5 years to make a single oboe.

@williamm4366 Жыл бұрын

It's called a HAUT BOIS not a Oboe stupid english retards, haut means HIGH, bois means WOOD, if you called it a HIGH WOOD it would be closer than that french MASSACRE of OBOE what a stupid guy wrote that that's why we killed you so much you english bastards you're so stupid that's baffling. Also if you think that's expensive try and buy a Selmer Sax which is a paris born instrument.

@jimbob123412 Жыл бұрын

Mike the finisher needs his own show, seems like a good bloke.

@B1TKZH47 Жыл бұрын

Exquisite and remarkable craftsmanship!

@Juidodin 8 ай бұрын

6:36 now that's a man rightfully proud of his skill acquired over decades..

@fafmotorsport Жыл бұрын

As someone whose least favourite instrument is the oboe, I must say this: I actually had no idea the complexity and craftsmanship involved in producing a ‘proper’ wood oboe! New respect! 🙏🏻 This video alone will make me listen out and appreciate more the sounds of the oboe in the music I listen to.

@heiseheise Жыл бұрын

as someone who played the oboe in 5th grade, then switched to saxophone throughout the rest of his school years... an untalented person playing the oboe is like strangling a goose. A talented artist playing the oboe is heavenly.

@tamasfoldesi2358 Жыл бұрын

@@heiseheise It's not about talent but about practice.

@andrewfortmusic Жыл бұрын

I used to hate the oboe until I discovered Ravel. His oboe writing in Le Tombeau de Couperin and Ma Mere l'lye (and of course Daphnis et Chloe) is incredible. The Menuet from the orchestrated version of Le Tombeau de Couperin is the piece that sent me over the edge in regard to the oboe. Now, I not only feature the oboe in most of my orchestral music, I also play oboe (at a low level, of course; mine is student-grade).

@ckmoore101 9 ай бұрын

@@tamasfoldesi2358 Both. That is like saying literally everyone could be a world-class musician, just practice a lot!!! Which as anyone who has actually practiced a lot, would know. Genetics plays a part

@tamasfoldesi2358 9 ай бұрын

@@ckmoore101 It's also about the quality not just the quantity of the practice sessions. The genetic part is not the determining factor. Just look at Derek Brown. He admits that he's a slow learner, but he puts a ton of effort in that's why he's a pretty fuckin' good sax player.

@TheEvertw Жыл бұрын

The Oboe is my favorite orchestral instrument. Way out of my league to play, but I LOVE the sound of it.

@DelightLovesMovies Жыл бұрын

Wow that one tap repair is one of the coolest things I ever saw.

@spacewalktraveller1 22 күн бұрын

That was very interesting, thanks.

@Sjels17 Жыл бұрын

I remember learning to play oboe at only 8 y/o and everyone was Proud, while I was dissapointed to be assigned the oboe Cause I wanted to learn clarinet. Ended up playing it for 9 years and got 2 dutch musician degrees with it while being so young. Afther that I learned to play the flute and guitar but never to a level like I did with the oboe. J miss it sometimes

@theclimbingchef Жыл бұрын

I played clarinet from 3rd grade to 8th grade and took up oboe because there was too many clarinets , lok

@malthus101 Жыл бұрын

buy one and start again.

@Dr.Schlitz Жыл бұрын

I played the Oboe for 7 years before giving it up. At the time (1980s), I coveted a Loree Oboe. I believe the price then was around $2,500 - too much for my family. To prevent cracking, I used some kind of rubber coated insert dipped in distilled water as a humidifier when the Oboe was in its case. I never mastered reed making, so I used reeds made for me by my teacher.

@kodywillnauer9422 Жыл бұрын

Played oboe in hs and college on my way to being a music ed major. For the life of me I could never perfect reed making.

@Blokfluitgroep Жыл бұрын

I actually think the reed is even more important than the oboe: I only started to like the oboe again after I found a good reed maker. BTW: Lorees oboes are cheaper nowadays than it was.

@danielwow12 Жыл бұрын

@@Blokfluitgroep The oboist is only as good as the reed they play! Few other instruments require split practice time between instrument proficiency and reed making.

@DabloonsTNT3 Жыл бұрын

@@danielwow12 Bassoonists are with you on that boat!

@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын

I have a humidifier like this for my acoustic guitar.

@jamesfrench8610 Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know what an Oboe was! Amazing ...who knew!

@ivandasty277 Жыл бұрын

When I was a little always crying child ,the only thing that could end my cry , as my mother says was the sound of the oboe played by my father . I love its magic sound till now and to the end of my life .

@arriazaq4 Жыл бұрын

Idk where you got the price of a professional flute from, but they start at $10K and can go up to $50K

@sg_dan Жыл бұрын

Right? Especially if we're talking wooden flutes! Those are extra pricey!

@tkat6442 Жыл бұрын

@@sg_dan or gold!

@matebagi3892 Жыл бұрын

yeah plz send me where they're getting high end pro flutes for 3.5k 😭

@maggiemartelli5306 5 ай бұрын

I played in a Victorian building once with millions of stone steps. After my instrument bounced down all the way to the bottom my instrument was FINE- well done Howarths ❤ M M

@McLoven-vm1ck Жыл бұрын

Wow, i had never considered the labor and complexity that goes into the crafting of this instrument.

@kinexkid Жыл бұрын

You should do one on bassoon next! Especially the Heckel bassoons, they cost upwards of 50-70k!

@sycophantic0 Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@hunteralexander9791 Жыл бұрын

Agreed! A friend of mine who I go to school with is currently trialing a Heckel 6K series that’s only priced at about $31K and that’s a good deal for that horn!

@darklombax2580 Жыл бұрын

@@hunteralexander9791 that’s new car worth

@hunteralexander9791 Жыл бұрын

@@darklombax2580 it sure is. He doesn’t have a car but thought that since cars depreciate and bassoons appreciate, it’d be more worth it to get a horn that will outlive him earlier on

@SrPelo Жыл бұрын

pero como huele el oboe?

@JoRdi-ul4xg 7 ай бұрын

yo pelo

@beesfan 3 ай бұрын

que hace sr. pelo aqui xd?

@sidneybristow815 Жыл бұрын

I loved playing the oboe. Making the reeds was a pain. Had no idea making the oboe was this hard. Cool story.

@blakebro1 Жыл бұрын

I love oboes!! Although I play trumpet, woodwinds are so harmonious.

@austinhernandez2716 Жыл бұрын

I originally chose oboe but got placed on trumpet and studied on it in college. I still love oboe though

@WatchMeDIYIt Жыл бұрын

06:27 This is a perfect example of the "I charged you $1 for the tap, but $99 for knowing how to do it." 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@JaneEMcLernon Жыл бұрын

My son played alto saxophone for awhile. I was in the music store buying him reeds right before school began. The woman beside me was buying oboe reeds. My son's reeds were about $2.25 each; the thinner and more fragile oboe reeds were $18.00 each! (I believe that most oboists make their own reeds and I understand why.)

@DrQuizzler Жыл бұрын

I studied and got pretty good at the oboe a few decades back, and one of my three oboe teachers was a John Mack student. Everything about being an oboist is expensive and time-consuming. As much as I love and miss the oboe, I think I'll stick with my trusty $150 EWI!!

@noname-wo9yy 7 ай бұрын

It's especially depressing when you break a good reed

@mellow1750 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed my time playing oboe in Junior & High School 😊 The price of the instrument never allowed me to own one of my own. It’s still my favorite instrument 🥰

@jamespatrick20906 Жыл бұрын

I’m really impressed with your comment, if you don’t mind can we be friends, where are you from?

@Roger__Wilco Жыл бұрын

@@jamespatrick20906 get a load of this dude's oboe fetish

@TheNuclearBolton Жыл бұрын

💀

@lingling1865 Жыл бұрын

@@jamespatrick20906 AHAHAHAHA

@HoaxManTheOne Жыл бұрын

thats what im thinking. like who the f actually starts this instrument and keeps at it if even the shittiest ones cost you thousands of bucks. also, why is nobody planting these trees on a larger scale?

@ianrobst6648 Жыл бұрын

Good to see such craftsmanship may it live long!

@HoaxManTheOne Жыл бұрын

it wont tho if nobody can start learning it with reasonable beginner instruments. its only possible with a significant financial incentive that will come years if not decades down the line. last time i checked there arent too many opening for "professional oboe player"

@LCdrDerrick Жыл бұрын

Okay, convinced! I'm going to aim not just for a highly complex Patek Philippe, but also for an oboe.

@nicholasrix1707 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if Backun Musical will ever make oboes using their patented carbon fiber integrated exterior. Backun is an amazing Clarinet manufacturer and only recently started making saxophone mouthpieces as an extension of their product line. The CG carbon cost between $13k and 14k depending on the key and wood configuration, and the wood contraction and expansion factor is practically 100% eliminated because of this. I absolutely love Backun Musical because they experiment with the best solutions to basically every problem the clarinet has had in its history. I repair clarinets as loved hobby as mine and though never worked on an oboe, felt the pain to hear 40 keys were what those repair techs deal with!

@Nightcrawler333 Жыл бұрын

Another high quality Business Insider video 👍👍 great work 👍👍

@HobbyOrganist Жыл бұрын

yeah these are fantastic videos, all of the business insider videos!

@thebassoonman2020 Жыл бұрын

Can you do one on why bassoons are so expensive??? Bassoons are amazing!

@mattmccallum2007 Жыл бұрын

My teacher had a Heckle bassoon and a heckle contrabassoon. I think even back then he said they were over 40,000 dollars.

@limonscore Жыл бұрын

@@mattmccallum2007 today you get a Heckel for 90k and 13years waiting time

@anthonycall5566 Жыл бұрын

I had the pleasure of learning on a Fox Artist Model in high school. It was a functional work of art! Handcrafting reeds was like meditation.

@alienmachine Жыл бұрын

Yes! An entry level bassoon starts at around 7,000 dollars, while professional bassoons start at around 30,000 dollars.

@KTHedleyBassoon Жыл бұрын

Next up tour Wilhelm Heckel workshop next!! Also super crazy. Heckel Bassoons are some of the greatest, yet most expensive bassoons in the world. Wagner had Heckel design a custom instrument for him an he claimed Heckel bassoons were the best bassoons in the world!!

@bobjacobson858 5 ай бұрын

This is a very interesting video. At the other end of the scale, this morning I won an eBay auction for a Larilee wooden oboe (Elkhart, Indiana) for $70. From what I've been able to determine from other websites, this small company made a quality instrument. The advert claims it's a "good fixerupper". I'm basically a hobbyist who plays many kinds of instruments, and I have found that some claiming to need work are actually playable even if not suitable for a serious performance. I'm looking forward to seeing what arrives in a couple days! I have many brass instruments as well as some woodwinds, and it's obvious the brass, in particular, are much easier to manufacture, both due to relatively inexpensive material and simplicity of design.

@laurabiemmi3702 Жыл бұрын

Hooray, an oboe video!! In addition to everything said here, a lot of (but not all) oboes ‘blow out’ and lose their precise intonation after five or so years of heavy playing due to consistent changes in moisture in the narrowest part of the bore- the width and evenness can change ever so slightly here over time in a way you only find with conical bores. So buying a whole new instrument is a must at a certain point in time. And that’s not even mentioning the multiple machines and technology required to make and sustain a proper reed-making set up. (A follow up ‘why are oboe reeds so expensive’ would be hugely educational to those interested in why it’s cheaper, but still costly, to make your own reeds as opposed to buying them retail from specialist makers. Profilers, gougers, shapers, oh my!) Oboe playing can be such a privileged person’s game and really inaccessible without money at hand. I was so lucky to get my Dupin oboe second hand- it’s a game changer. The damn instrument is also immensely rewarding, to the point where it’s almost an addiction. Ah well. Onwards we go!

@GhtPTR Жыл бұрын

Indeed. A Marigaux comes with 2 heads, not sure if that solves all or part of the problem, way too expensive for me.

@laurabiemmi3702 Жыл бұрын

@@GhtPTR ahhh the gorgeous M2, certainly a great choice for those with $$ !

@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536 Жыл бұрын

Amen.

@rj5529 Жыл бұрын

does the wood actually affect the sound at all?

@alexandraallan6764 Жыл бұрын

Oboe in mainstream media! Also why is so much of this news to me...

@1.4142 Жыл бұрын

This makes me want to take care of my instrument so much more

@AllenHanPR Жыл бұрын

Same, I clean out my instrument in the shower every morning.

@aquamusprime4870 Жыл бұрын

I used too play the oboe .good times

@larrysorenson4789 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather, Dr. Milo M. Sorenson, a concert oboist worked with Florida Atlantic University in the creation of videos in which he made his own reeds. It is in the archives of the music department.

@MooreYouTube Жыл бұрын

Hello, flute and oboe player here. Professional flutes are on average 10,000 to 12,000 dollars. Starting as low as around 6,000 to as much as 20,000, even 50,000 in some cases. It all depends on brand and model. I heard the 4x more than a professional flute and giggled. My professional flute is roughly $13,800. Brannen, a very well known professional only brand starts as low as 10,000 if I remember correctly.

@ninoding Жыл бұрын

4x more than a pro flute is hilarious, I’m sure there are 15k oboes out there. The most expensive a flute can get is around 130k for a full 24k Muramatsu.

@alfiehd5712 Жыл бұрын

Bassoon next please!

@manjitsoni9676 Жыл бұрын

ਬਹੁਤ ਸ਼ਾਨਦਾਰ ਸਾਜ ਦੀ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਅਤੇ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਲਈ ਬਹੁਤ ਬਹੁਤ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਜੀ

@Nooorrriii Жыл бұрын

Bassoons are also very hard to make wish they would do it them too, I played bassoon in middle school, high school and college but ultimately couldn’t afford my own. The other thing is the reeds for oboes and bassoons are an art of their own that most learn to make themselves.

@davidj.3897 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see one about bassoons

@ephraimpinckney2925 Жыл бұрын

This makes me appreciate my Bach Strad model 37 even more.

@Android_Warrior Жыл бұрын

Funny you say that, I had to sell my oboe due to arthritis and got me a Bach Strad Vindabona a couple of days ago.

@ephraimpinckney2925 Жыл бұрын

@@Android_Warrior Sorry to hear that about your hand. Oboe players are a rare and special group 🙏😃🎶

@Android_Warrior Жыл бұрын

@@ephraimpinckney2925 : Thank you my friend. I really missed the Oboe😢

@garykuovideos 4 ай бұрын

For newcomers to classical music, the oboe is featured prominently on the soundtrack to Cast Away, a score on which I performed as violinist. Its hauntingly beautiful and exposed sound was used to perfection by composer Alan Silvestri.

@BananaMonstaaaa Жыл бұрын

3:22 I program cnc machines for metal and yeah, hitting those tolerances in wood is insane

@Derekzparty Жыл бұрын

Of all the woodwinds, oboes have the funniest sounding squeak for a learning player.

@c.ladimore1237 Жыл бұрын

fascinating. creating one seems more complex than playing one (which i believe is the most difficult instrument to learn), so how did they exist before such precise machines came into being? granted the first ones were very basic in comparison...

@tamasfoldesi2358 Жыл бұрын

They were just less precise. But actually a lathe is a surprisingly old invention. I think the oldest one found is from ancient Egypt if I remember correctly. Those were manpowered of course and not electric ones. Soldering, casting, smithing, drilling are also pretty old methods.

@c.ladimore1237 Жыл бұрын

@@tamasfoldesi2358 lol yah i knew that about lathes and such, but less precise in this case is such an understatement. these are like rocket engines compared to fireworks 🙂.

@matmatteo8238 Жыл бұрын

Just recently had to change my oboe and this pops up in the feed....🤣. At least now I can show some friends this video to explain why I'm always so paranoid about my instrument.

@asc7147 Жыл бұрын

I would take issue with the statement that one oboe is equivalent to the price of four high end flutes. There are multiple brands of flutes that cost well over $10,000.

@joshnguyen6203 Жыл бұрын

I play on a gold flute that costs over 40,000$

@lukekelley3093 Жыл бұрын

I’d even say most professional flutes can easily exceed 10,000 and a high end one can go up to 90,000$

@Undomaranel Жыл бұрын

True. But let's compare even student Yamaha model pricing. Hundreds for a flute, thousands for an oboe. Then, there's the English Horn, of which no Alto flute can compare... and let's not get into bassoon territory. I'm lucky enough to play on a used Loreé I purchased through my college instructor. It has a pedigree lol, stories of it's former players in philharmonic orchestras and such. But hey, it was a steal at $3000 and definitely improved my tone from the old student Yamaha I had been on and my chair mate who borrowed it for recitals sounded angelic compared to her usual Bundy. Now if only I could get reeds to last as long as this horn has X'D

@asc7147 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but this isn't a video about student model oboes or English horns or bassoons. They made a direct comparison between flutes and oboes that was inaccurate. They are talking about handmade oboes, of which Howarth's cost about $10-13,000. Go look at the top of the line flutes by Powell or Brannen or Altus or any one of a number of brands -- it's not even close.

@joshnguyen6203 Жыл бұрын

@@asc7147 yes exactly. I play on a Brannen all gold. Not even close.

@JoshChristiane Жыл бұрын

Please do one of these videos on classical guitars. Good classical guitars are tremendously difficult to find, I've gone through 10+ brands this year disappointed in all of them, then finally ran into a guy named Turkowiak in Poland, and his instruments are absolute masterpieces. The process for making them is very seldom documented and hard to find information on, I'd LOVE to see a video following a great Luthier like Turkowiak.

@ME-pb2gf Жыл бұрын

McPherson

@lb8384 Жыл бұрын

Nah you can easily find good classical guitars.

@AnthonyCasabar Жыл бұрын

Watch it learned so much great video

@Skitdora2010 Жыл бұрын

I still have my childhood oboe which I play, I bought another but I prefer my lifelong oboe as it grew up with me. I had it fixed under covid, they did an overhaul and changed the pads and it cost $800 to repair and was gone 6 months because they said student oboes came first because they needed theirs for school. My oboes never cracked. My older sister would bend her flute all the time though because she used to hit things with it and that was constantly in the shop being rebored and she had a crystal flute she broke in the dishwasher.

@ayeshaclassesgk Жыл бұрын

आपके वीडियो ने मुझे इस अद्भुत एहसास से अच्छा महसूस करवाए❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@AdLusk1 Жыл бұрын

do bassoons next. mine wasn't that expensive and cost 15k usd

@reedr7142 8 ай бұрын

I have always loved the oboe and the bassoon…figures they are out of my reach. I also wanted to play the bagpipes as a kid. I’m sure those don’t come cheap.