“The Sith have outgrown the use of lightsabers, but we continue to use them if only to humiliate the Jedi.”

Just my opinion but I think why Palpatine feels he didn't need a lightsaber is because when you use a lightsaber it's because you failed somewhere. You shouldn't even have to face your enemy unless you made a mistake. He removed the Jedi through manipulation, and trickery. Not because of lightsaber skill, or even facing them. He only need the lightsaber after he'd been discovered. I think he was only discovered because of Anakin (if memory serves). So his plan was almost flawless. He nearly removed the entire Jedi order without any of them even knowing who their enemy was.

Jedi: *Uses lightsaber* Palpatine: "So uncivilized"

The real story of starwars is the ongoing rivalry between palpatine and lightsabers. Given that a lightsaber scarred his face, his first body was destroyed by falling into the death star (which was effectively a big lightsaber), and 2 lightsabers destroyed him for good. All while palpatine killed thousands of innocent lightsabers to make his death stars and his sith fleet.

His first lightsaber reminded me of a king or emperors sword in different franchises. Very ornate and exquisite

It could be argued that mastering all 7 form is exactly why he came to the conclusions he did. Once he realized that they didn't quite help him achieve his goals the way he hoped it would.

Twice a lightsaber could have saved palpatine’s life but he still stuck with force lightning. Had he summoned Luke’s lightsaber after vader turned on him he could have easily killed him and Luke and had he summoned bens lightsaber to fight Rey instead of force lightning he could have easily beaten her. His overconfidence isn his weakness his over reliance on force lightning is.

Sidious "I hate Lightsabers" Also Sidious "it's treason then aaah".

I think another aspect is that during the time of the empire Sidious had no threats that he couldn’t handle with the force or his cunning genius Vader yoda and obi weren’t really threats as 2 were in exile and the other he controlled but any rebels Jedi survivors he could just kill with the force Any uprising he could end with his unlimited resources

I believe some of the times that he uses a lightsaber feel like he is saying that the opponent isn't even worth his actual power, which lies in his strength with the force. The battle with Savage and Maul felt very much like that to me.

Those viewpoints could have formed after all of his saber practice. And he definitely uses sabers to show just how out classed his opponents are in both the force and dueling

I totally agree with everything stated in the video -- I just want to point out that Vader only killed the insect queen because Sidious weakened the insect queen by frying it with Force Lightning first. Which, considering that the shell of the insect queen was hard enough to deflect lightsabers normally, is an impressive feat.

Just a sudden thought. Palpatine may have been trained with the lightsaber and mastered it. Then as his power grew, the lightsaber became less and less of the devastation he could cause as opposed to the use of the force. So he may have felt he had "outgrown" the use of lightsabers and felt superior to anyone who wielded one as their primary means of power.

It makes sense he would train himself in using a lightsaber extensively,it wasn't that he himself didn't think he outgrew them but to Sidious a lightsaber any lightsaber is simply a tool,unlike how the Jedi and even Vader think of their lightsabers he's much more caviler about using it where he'll even lend one to Vader in his early years without much issue on his part

Even in the context of Lords of the Sith, Sidious is trying to stir Anakin's memories to the surface, being stranded with his master in a hostile alien environment, and on the run from people hunting them down. Sidious flat out says in the book that his life was never in danger so he was indeed playfighting and trying to goad one Jedi to see if that Jedi is still there to goad.

everything is proceeding as i have foreseen....

I don’t think it’s weird that Palpatine trained extensively with a lightsaber. He probably trained and mastered form 7 when he was younger. Then as he became older and wiser realized this was not an effective way to destroy the Jedi order.

I imagine that Palpatine used his lightsabers on Rhyloth because of Darth Vader's presence. While he does seem to have SOME control over the path of his Force Lightning, it is still shown to arc somewhat wildly (if the sequels are ignored). Because he designed Darth Vader's suit and made it weak to Force Lightning, he probably used the lightsaber(s) because he still needed an apprentice until he could replace Vader. If you take the sequels into account, he could have just blasted his enemies with lightning to kill them, although Luke Skywalker did survive being hit by Sideous' lightning at least once, so...

I like how his final attack was not a lightsaber one. I like how he was defeated by lightsaber reflection, a defensive move. Poetic.

It’s a power move, pure and simple. While it might be impressive for him to just fry everyone with lightning, the lightsaber is “the weapon of the Jedi”. To beat them their own game, using their tools, that’s a flex.

Darth Sidious : With each strike your hatred grows! 😈

And despite the mockery he still enjoys the thrill of battle . Forms 2, 4, 6 and 7 in a hybridized Jar’kai are his styles

He was not stronger with the force than Yoda he just had the high ground the high ground makes all the difference

Amazing,fantastic job.

Someday I hope to not need a force pike anymore.

Palpatine had a tiny lightsaber

“If one is to understand the great mystery, one needs to embrace a larger view.” Sidious pushed to be more powerful in the force and skilled with the blade.

I think any force user can "outgrow the need" for a lightsaber in combat, but I'd find it wise to keep a lightsaber or other weapon handy just in case the opportunity presents itself where a weapon IS needed. The Force can be used to stop blaster bolts and catch or deflect weapon slashes, sure, but if you're unprepared or your connection to the force falters, yousa in deep doodoo without a physical weapon

Palpatine is an example of a genius whose good at something but hates it at same time while being gifted at it

Mace Windu actually did win against Sidious fair in square, mainly due to his vappad ability.

Short answer: this dude is the king of having a back up plan to a back up plan

Imagine if the Episode 3 both fight/battles with Sidious vs. Yoda and Obi-Wan vs. Anakin/Vader were strictly Force Powers only (Force Lighting and Force telekinesis). It was kind of like that with Sidious vs. Yoda 75% of the fight, but imagine it being the whole fight. Also, if Obi-Wan and Anakin's Fight/Battle was strictly Force Power would the outcome of the fight/battle be different?

Yoda wasn't the only Jedi who bested him in saber combat, mace windu 100% beat sidious too? he disarmed him and would have killed him if Anakin hadn't intervened. Not sure how you left that out?I think you give him too much credit.

Even though Sidious waited for Anakin to arrive during the duel with Mace Winds he lost the duel for he did not expect his force lightning to hit him. After the duel while looking at his now burnt form, he stated his true form was had finally come through. If Mace had used shatter point on Anakin instead of Palpatine Anakin would not have been able to blindside him, ironically it was after Mace finally trusted Anakin is when Anakin betrayed the Jedi for a lie since Palpatine had not yet learned the necessary force ability to save Padme, besides it was Sidious who was placing the dream into Anakin's head creating the necessary force energy to make Anakin's nightmare real. #MaceLives

I shake my head with other channels when they discuss Sith before Sidious. With their logic, they *could* go "well Sidious doesn't like Lightsabers so it stands to reason he's bad at them" When this is in fact flawed. A Sith before Sidious would hate something, but he/she can still be a master of it beyond anyone.

Palpatine always had a grandiose mentality. Even as a kid

With a Jedi like mace Windu who can deflect back force lighting, he needed it. and if he chose to use the force then vaapad would be on par since its a state of mind and not only blade based. As much as he saw lightsabers as a Joke, he still needed them

I’ve been looking forward to this

Why do people assume that anything that comes out of Palpatine's mouth is the truth? He was a compulsive liar and braggart.

Didn't Yoda Prove this correct when he stopped Ventress sabers, turned them of,then took them from her before discarding them

The Jedi could've used the kyber crystals to make far more powerful weapons (as Sidious ends up doing), but chose to stick to lightsabers. Anyone can fire a blaster. Anyone can push the Death Star's button. You can't do anything with a lightsaber without proper mastery, though. The Jedi chose lightsabers to stay somewhat humble and force themselves to become proficient in it, rather than make stronger weapons. Sidious's disdain of lightsabers is just a way to further insult that philosophy; his real mindset is probably something like "why should I stick to these toy swords, when I could build planet-busting cannons with these crystals? Foolish Jedi, wasting them on lightsabers."

He keeps them just as a mockery and to toy with the Jedi. His force powers are so great that they compensate greatly for him in battle.

"I d0Nt n3eD n0 dUMB liGhTsAbER" - Darth Sidious, maybe, probably

Sidious technically lost the battle against Mace Windu. Love your take on Sidious here tho! 👌🏼

Han Solo: “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid”.

I don't know people, each time Sidious ignited his lightsaber sh$$t got real and i got the ultimate chills...

If you closely in the Mace Windu fight, the lightsaber that Sidious uses has Anakin's hilt. Kinda highlighting how Sidious used him as a weapon against the Jedi

“There’s something I’ve been keeping from you this entire video (to extend the watch time like always)”

Excellent content, this is the first time I've heard someone say Yoda beat sidious in their duel which I totally agree. Also yes sidious was much more confident in his force abilities I disagree that he beat Yoda in the senate chamber on the basis that Yoda has the second highest midclorine count of everyone in starwars also Yoda 8 times as many lifetimes worth of studying the force which leads one to believe his force abilities are unmatched by anyone with the exception of Luke. Last but not least sidious flat out ran away for the entire battle again Yoda, he was scared because he knew he would lose. " If so powerful you are why run?" Hahaha just my opinion

I agree that Palpatine is so damn powerful with the force that he doesn't need a lightsaber. Just has it to mock the jedi. He threw the duel against Windu as soon as Anakin arrived as part of his plan to turn him to the dark side. Only the grand Master Yoda is truly capable of truly dueling with Palpatine.

palpatine: “the Sith have outgrown the use of lightsabers” *has more than one and is casually one of the best duelists in the galaxy*

Sidious won on Coruscant. Yoda couldn't best him with a blade and both lost them in the fight. The guards didn't show up until well after, and didn't hedge the fight at all.

I think Sidious probably said this when he was drunk. “Bro I’m so strong in the force I could definitely take Mace and Yoda at the same time with just the force.”

There are situations where the Lightsaber is warranted indeed, those situations are Yoda and Mace. Palpatine, relies on his mind, yet his blind side was his arrogance, thats where a lightsaber in the correct hands could do him in despite all the cunning and planning he still couldnt get over his own grandeur and state of superiority.

Cool vid

A Sith ability to steal midiclorians from others in order to increase their power would be awesome. "UNLIIIIIMITEEEEED POOOOOOWER!" while he sucks midiclorians out of everyone haha

He needed them to mock the Jedi

sounds to me that Palpatine thought about lightsabers as one does about condoms "it's better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them"

Solid take.

in the novel of revenge of the sith yoda didn't disarm him he just stoped using the lightsaber and stared using the force on yoda

the use of the blade will hide how powerful he really is.

Darth Sidious is superb lightsaber duelist.

Windu had Palpatine best before Anakin cut off his hand.

@TheStupendousWave Another interesting expose. Question. Did Vader ever see the unedited video of Palpatine Vs Yoda? Did he take any notes, or understand his Palpatine's style and weaknesses? Did he sense the fear in Palpatine?

I agree the pen is mightier than the sword even far far away.

I've been wondering for some years now, what if you had a Force Wielder who was as talented with Force Lightning (or Electric Judgment) as Sheev, and used that instead of a power cell to activate their saber.

I anticipate a video on Darth Vitiate.

He was right to an extent, he was killed twice without the need of a lightsaber.

Actually Mace did defeat him with a lightsaber, and he was not powerful enough to overcome Mace disarmed.. and had it not been for Anikin’s last second betrayal, Sidious would be dead.

What were the Jedi and Sith martial arts styles in hand to hand combat? Did the Jedi and Sith have a more linear or circular form in hand to hand combat?

Look at 1.10! ANAKIN'S lightsabre hilt! Yeah, maybe he didn't like lightsabres, but they sure came in handy when it came to Jedi attempting to decapitate him.

I think he needed the saber to fight Jedi. However, with all the other Jedi gone, who could really threaten him in any way outside of other Sith that may have used one and through which he could not just use telekinesis to choke them or throw them around like a rag doll...or electrocute them across the city! He didn't have to worry about Vader because of his pitiful excuse for a suit...Maul was gone. Outside of Talzin and someone Talzin may have trained (I am pretty sure he kept a close eye on them out of that fear), what did he have to fear? And boy, he was highly over arrogant when it came to Luke Skywalker...or was he? Even if Luke had not thrown his light saber away, did he know how to block lighting with it? Did he know tutaminis? I don't think so (but I don't know why - supposedly it was taught to initiates at the Jedi Academy but if that were the case, why did Anakin get thrown across the room like...wait for it...a rag doll, making it look like Anakin had never even heard of force lightning). I wonder if Vader had not come up behind him and basically sacrificed himself in killing (I don't care, I haven't sat down and watched any of the new ones - so he's dead for t his discussion) Sidious, if Sidious could have taken them both on? I think that would be an interesting topic if it hasn't already been discussed

You need to fix the music at the end I'm here playing your videos using a speaker and I get a loud ass song at the end that disturbs a lot of my coworkers.

So now, he DIDN’T lose to Mace Windu? He meant for his face to get f***ed up? 😆

Lords of the Sith is a good book. He almost came to blows with Vader when he tried to kill the village girl he referred to

He would also have had to choice but to become a lightsaber duellist. As his master forced him

So ...That was quite interesting. Now, to what I personally think ,is that yes, Sidious is right,not literally but considering that what he actually meant with his claim is what was described at the end of the video. Still though ,I object to what was stated about how he didn't ever let his arrogance become a weakness.Cause unlike what was said that he believed ,the Jedi , eventually managed to defeat him simply by taking lessons from him and starting to rely more on the power of their intelligence in order to counter the sith. In fact,everything that happened in the OT was part of a brilliant plan , orchestrated by Yoda already at the end of ROTS .What really happened as also what COULD had happened, taking in account every possible alternative would come out by Anakin or one of his children being the Chosen One . Something that it's in more detail described on the work "There is another"where we learn that Yoda secretly wanted to train Leia instead of Luke and even was ok with him getting killed by Vader when he was about to face him in the cloud city .So the Jedi did also actually evolved spiritually just like the sith .And was that what allowed them to survive ,even by learning the secrets of the afterlife.

He hated lightsabers so much that he decided to carry 2 of them 😂

Hell ya!

He doesn’t need to show off his power to the Jedi he already knows he’s better than them….

The simple fact of the matter is, Sidious like all other Sith before him are just arrogant to a fault, greatly overestimating their skill.

So you mean to tell me Palpatine iced out his lightsaber??!????

He was hypocritical in many things. He claimed Vader would grow to be far more powerful than himself, as if he would have allowed that. He would rather continue to torture Luke than outright kill him even after claiming to do so. He would say Vader's feelings are conflicted and would confuse his attunement to the Force, instead of accepting that he himself couldn't sense Luke arriving at Endor. He insulted Vader on multiple occasions on losing to Kenobi on Mustafar, even thought it must have Ben obvious to him he would have also lost to Yoda if he didn't get extremely lucky in their duel

I think Dooku would have made a badass emperor, especially if played by Christopher Lee.

I never got the idea that his Lightsaber design mocked the Jedi. The one-handed hilt had an electrum palm grip, but the casing was made of Lightsaber resistant Phrik metal. Frankly that just sounds practical. If anything, having such an elaborate Saber would be an exploitable attachment. While the Jedi teach that a "Lightsaber is your life". Lightsabers are just possessions. They aren't disposable but a Jedi should be able to discard it if absolutely necessary.

I would say he was Honest about this. You NEED to have a lightsaber for both Sith and Jedi. Typically he could just use the force to kill everyone, but does choose to use a Lightsaber to prove points to Jedi. Yoda is a bad example, but he could not dominate Yoda in the force. Ultimately he knew he would need it.

Maybe if he'd stop hating lightsabers, he wouldn't have been disarmed by Yoda and absolutely clapped on my Windu

Sidious is undoubtedly one of if not the most viciously powerful and intelligent sith-lords of all time but his arrogance was his weakness. Luke told him "Your overconfidence is your weakness" and he was right on the money.

I think the beasts from the lords of the sith book were called lilacs

Mace Windu legit beat Sidious though.

Blinded by his own ego.

How did Darth Sidious beat Yoda with the force...or how was more superior to Yoda? The only difference between what happened between Sidious & Yoda was that Yoda just happened to be on the edge of the pod while Sidious had completely stable footing right in the middle of the pod but you can see Yoda was not only taking Sidious's force lightning but was pushing it back and you can see it on Sidious's face when he realizes what's happening and that Yoda was redirecting it back at him. They resulting blast made both fly backwards and the only reason Yoda fell was because he was in a much more precarious position. I mean, I thought with that determination look from Yoda and the surprised and somewhat scared look on Sidious's face made it clear to the viewers that Yoda could handle Sidious's force lightning. Maybe in the book it says otherwise...

He lost to Mace Windu too! He only beat Windu because Anakin cut his hand off.

Did Jedi and Sith master any other weapons skills beside lightsaber forms? How many weapons skills did the Jedi and Sith master on average? Did the Jedi and Sith practice iron skills?

Too bad lightsabers cannot block force lightning.... Oh wait, Disney forgot about that when Palps was killed by wonder Ray

How did the Mustafarians survive for thousands of years on their firey planet after the bright star emblem was stolen?

Yep, he still wanted to have a back up emergency saber just incase anything else happened and to tame his so called 'arrogance'.

Lightsabers are awesome

Ehhhh idk man, I look at this like Batman with guns. He won't use them, hates guns really, but he is still an expert marksman and more proficient than 99% of gun users!

what is the show where this is depicted