Damn Guys! Thanks for all the support and comments on this video, I've been reading some interesting discussions in the comments. I ranked all the "Wii Series" games if you want to hear my opinion of each game. Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9ZlgcqAvNGUeKM.html

I think they’re suffering from same face syndrome because of the lack of customization options. Miitopia was a huge hit partially because of the various options that they could decorate their miis with. You could add wigs, face stickers for more detail, and it still has the same, simple mii style yet were so diverse. Heck, you could make spongebob if you wanted lmao- edit: sheesh 8k likes?

I think the new characters are kinda cute, but in a very 'corporate' kind of way, whereas the Miis were SO WEIRD LOOKING when they first released that you couldn't help but love them. Even as Miis got more complicated, they still stuck to the flat and simplified design that lets you project personality and feeling onto them. The new characters are just kinda... staring into the middle distance... soullessly...

I think they kind of have a "corporate art style" vibe to me, the Mii's were so simple yet carried so much charm, what with the bowling pin-type body and no arms. And the faces could be customized to no end

The things that made miis soooo iconic was because you could literally make anyone/anything out of them. (I use to just sit down and create miis for fun instead of play games sometimes.) This cute style is just toooo corporate and lifeless…

My main problem is that they look so generic. The great thing about Miis is that they're simplistic, but appealing, and highly customizable.

Personally I don’t dislike the designs, but I definitely agree there’s something “off” about them, not to mention the original miis have that nostalgia factor

For me , the 'new mii' look just too.. perfect. Idk in the old one, peoples had defaults, obvious face traits, it looked funny and we had more possibilities. The new mii's gives less possibility and they looks less like us. It's sad :C

I think it's because there isnt as much customization and they all look kind of "perfect". The cool thing about the old miis was that they didnt have to be beautiful.

Part of the fun of the original Mii characters was that customization was far from restrictive. If you were bored and then decided to get creative with options, you could make a cyclops or rat-faced guy.

What annoys me about this most is that Nintendo already has a PERFECT model for the mii's, that being their smash bro's ultimate appearance. Perfectly detailed and "next gen", with a set of matching arms and legs, all without straying from the classic mii look which we have all grown to love. The secret sauce? It's not overly detailed, with masterful proprtions. When there is detail (in the costumes) it is matchingly cartoonist.

Speaking of their designs, i’m actually curious on how new miis are going to be played out in new 3rd party games. Classic miis are extremely simple and customizable, letting you to slap their faces on pretty much any model and call it a day, and it actually worked. The new ones on the other hand… Yeah, good luck with that

I don't have an issue with the design, but i do agree more emotion conveyed in the face would be a huge upgrade. Also yes old mii's are so nostalgic its hard to let go of them

I think it’s because they are too “clean” and “pretty” looking. There’s no personality to their appearance, unlike the original Mii’s.

I feel like they should add the miitopia customization options. There are the basic mii faces in there but you can change the faces a lot more if you want to be advanced. It takes more time to customize yes, but you can always use the regular mii options.

you didnt touch on one thing that i noticed immediately- all the "new mii's " are the same height and weight. that was another big thing that separated miis from each other. of course, i always made my miis the shortest possible- but it still differentiated my miis from others miis.

I just think the “New Mii’s” have a VERY different style from the Old Mii’s. The Old Mii’s had exaggerated noses (and ESPECIALLY the noses), eyes, and facial features to me (as a kid cuz I started first playing when I was like 8) but it was also easy to recognize. Like if you showed me a Mii face and just that face only (like no hair, no jaw, just the face up close), then I would be able to say “Oh that’s a Mii face!” or something like that. Whereas the “New Mii’s” had this soulless face on them. And the style compared from the New to the Old is just so EXAGGERATEDLY DIFFERENT I couldn’t even tell if the “New Mii’s” where even Mii’s anymore. They didn’t even look like they had ANY personality in them. Like The Henry Stickman Game had more personality in them then the these *things*- (my opinion) The “New Mii’s” are kinda cute, but super different from the Old Mii’s.

The main problem is simple: Lack of Creative freedom. Mii are free range, you can make whatever with the tools you're given and there's whole series about making Miis because of this freedom, like Failboat does. This new sportmates, likely won't let you move or change the size of features, so you're locked to just choosing what you like, and that's it. Compared to Miis, this is a downgrade in character creation. Lastly, I think Miis are an icon of the Wii Sports series. Yeah, it's just another avatar creator, but it's so different to the customization of other games, that it's just uncanny to replace them. Switch Sports honestly looks more like a Gameloft or mobile game than a Nintendo property because of it.

I don’t get why they didn’t use the miitopia customization system, personally I think it was the perfect balance of new and old

11:08 To be honest I feel like the palette-swap clothing options were made as placeholders to fill the item palette with stuff just as a mockup for the trailer. The trailer has to be made a lot earlier than the latest build for the release date, so customization content was probably delayed for when the rest is complete.

i think the main issue is the miis lack individuality. i know the new miis look similar for the consistency and cleanliness of it, but the older ones have a handmade- very recognize and unique face. cause they were. you could have two very different miis and recognize they were still from the same media.

The best thing about Miis is that they can be made to represent all kinds of different people. Meanwhile, the Sportsmates are so uniform and conventional that they all pretty much look the same, and they hardly feel like avatars

While the new mii's do look cute, i think that the old/original mii's had a charm to them

In my opinion they aren't bad designs they're super adorable but I wouldn't really call them Miis. I don't know how to explain it but a Mii's design was basic and simple but you could spend hours and hours making as many as you want. If anything they should've left it how it was and maybe added a few new hairstyles, colours maybe add accessories but still kept it to a similar design

I don’t know why I don’t like that design, I just love the older one! There’s a lot of customization and they all look different! But this new one seems limited.

I think the biggest problem with the whole "New Miis" thing is that everyone's treating them as Mii replacements instead of playermodels for one singular video game

The new miis are bad because you can’t speedrun making a peter griffin one

One thing I think they really could've done is go for a similar approach to what Splatoon did in the customization department. Splatoon is quite similar to where you can really only change a couple of things with your character, but what made everybody unique was the insane amount of customization from hats, shirts and shoes. Just three clothing items was all that was needed to make everyone look and feel unique.

Another big thing about the new miis is that they have an age range! The old ones were so abstract that you couldn't really tell an adult mii from a kid unless you add bags and make them taller or make them tiny and cute. It was very open to interpretation, yet these feel like athletic young adults and sometimes they have wrinkles?? it's like a college kid with an old lady face on them. The lack of body shapes, heights, nose, eye, and other customizations also don't really help. Miis were easy to make, they didn't have to look exactly like you, but a caricature, and anyone could make one and feel included. These don't include as many people! Plus the old ones didn't really have a gender. it was either you had a dress or pants. All eye shapes, colors, etc were available regardless of gender!

I’ll never understand why Nintendo wants to rid of Miis so badly. I remember spending so much time making Miis from my childhood Tv shows. I miss it

The thing that bugged me about the new miis is the fact that they're too... perfect. I think miis have charm in their imperfections, and they're unique, you know? And the new miis are all the same body type in a game about fitness. It just.... it bugs me. The old miis can change their height and weight, and even though it's simple, they feel more unique and inclusive to each individual person. Miis are... well, me. That's their charm. They represent individual and unique people and are playable characters people feel comfortable being represented by. The new ones are just... slight variations of the same base model. There's no individuality there. I definitely don't feel represented with the new miis, and the imperfections that made miis unique are just... gone

Idk I like the design I think it’s the eyes that’s the issue, they’re walking a fine line of being ‘dead’ and ‘soulless’ and being cute and big and lively

I don't mind the new miis but I agree that there should be more customization options

For those of you that didn’t know, every breath of the wild NPC human was made with an advanced version of the classic mii maker. They really should have just used that for this game.

As with many things. It comes down simply to "Personality" and "Soul" The new characters have little to none of either. The miis may have been simpler. But in practice they had way more personality to them

If they keep making improvements later on, I think they can easily turn this hated concept into a loved one. Just like old Miis, there were more features in later systems after the Wii, and the Switch hit the peak. My only defense for now is that Nintendo isn't alone. Let's not forget the Xbox avatars.

I like how the old Miis were just derpy and were able to look dumb and funny, the new ones just look too perfect and unrelatable. Something definitely does look off.

For me they just look "too perfect". Even if you customize them, they still will be looking catroonish and have perfect proportions

My issue with these “new miis” are the same issues I have with the new monster high dolls. The original miis had the perfect design which accommodated maximum customization, but a mii meant to replicate a real person vs. a mii meant to replicate a fictional persona wouldn’t look funky next to each other. The most customization the new miis have would be the hair style, clothes, and colors. The design needs to contort into a specific mold to look cohesive. Think vrchat in the same sense. Completely different avatars, but they still look cohesive. The new miis can’t accommodate this.

I think the difference is that miis were invented as this new gimmick for you to try and create yourself or other people with a series of basic presets you could customize to a staggering degree, while these new things feel like the corporate amalgamate of Nintendo character creation of Pokémon animal crossing, and splatoon that are trying to copy the success of the original mii with none of the depth or quirkiness to it

I don't see the problem with these new mii's. while they look a little bit more realistic in the body the face is kept cute because Nintendo. It's not much of a bad style and of course, they don't have much of an expression but isn't this the first time they introduced them? That can get fixed as it is most likely still getting worked on. Or maybe I can just appreciate it because I can understand the fact that there really is no problem and people are just hating it because twitter people.

My problem is that they tried to fix something that wasn't broken. Miis aren't as possible as they were back in 2009, but they're still fun to use in games like this. I feel the same way about the sports. Most of the ones from the first two games were already great, so why do new ones? Especially ones like volleyball and badminton? Even soccer feels like an odd pick. They honestly should've just done a remake hybrid of Wii Sports and Resort with all the original sports and modes and that would've been WAY better!

I saw a complaint once that I agree with. The lack of the customization and the “trendy” hair options make them all look too young. Even the gray haired guy just looks like a guy in his thirties. I think a lot of the mii’s appeal was that they could resemble anyone of any age. These guys all look like they’re between twelve and forty.

honestly I like the new designs, I can obvious see the points and I do agree with some like the faces being basically blank and the same, and limited customization options, but honestly for the most part to me it just looks like some sort of anime style characters that don't honestly look too bad, I also like your design but personally if I were to have to pick, I'd pick the new mii's with maybe a few changes like extra customization options and eye shapes, other than that I have basically no problem with these designs, but once again your design concept looks good too!

I'm also scared that Nintendo will start phasing out the Miis😭 I truly think their designs are timeless and an integral part of Nintendo's identity❤️🙏🏻

I think the main problem with the “new miis” are just... too cute The old ones were better bc you could make them look like anything, here, they'll just always be... cute

I think the biggest issue is you don't "update/Replace" something that is still popular. People still really like the Mii's so replacing them makes no sense no matter what you replace them with. For an example I think that is part of what killed Milo Murphy's law aswell, fans were still very into Phineas and Ferb and didn't want to see it be replaced by something else, so milo murphy's law was pretty much dead on arrival because there was this idea that it killed Phineas and Ferb. (which I am not going to say that was a bad idea it was what the creators wanted to do. They were pretty much all out of ideas for Phineas and Ferb, but the fans didn't want something else and they are the one who ultimately decide what gets watched.)

They honestly should've learned from Miitopia and if we're going further, tomodachi life. Really good games fully based on miis. Wii sports was the best. Those 3 games all did well when sold and I owned all 3.

4:27 "They're literally just balls."

Another isue is that those avatars can only represent children, while the Miis could be middle-aged, old, etc... Also, wasn't that what made the Wii and the Wii-Sports so sucessefull? Fun for everyone?

Not to mention the circular hands. It was such characteristics like these that gave the miis character such as these circular hands, floating above the ground, heck sometimes your arms would be invisible and you’d have floating hands! But these new miis are too realistic compared to the old ones in my opinion. The definition of “Look how they massacred my boy”

This video is amazing! You explained very clearly, and finally got me to truly understand the hate they get, something no other 'tubers have managed to do. I love how you actually made the changes in photoshop as well!👍

I don’t know about MIIs much, but I think the if models for the new MIIs were just completely unrelated from the original MIIs,, it would be somewhat fine I do disagree with the nose since I think it fits a bit actually

My problem is don’t fix what isn’t broken. People love miis, loved the Mii customisation in miitopia. Just add that. Add more colours and shapes for the body/clothing (actually I think that’s a thing in tomodachi life).

Just seeing the new Miis is burning my love for Miis and at the same time and eyes.

I honestly like the new Mimi’s because they kinda give an animal crossing kind of vibe. The only downside is how realistic the rest of the body is

The issue I have with the new Mii's is their lack of charm. The old Mii's captured me as soon as I saw them. With their wacky faces that often didn't make sense, the blocky bodies, there is something about them that charmed me as soon as I saw them. Their bodies allowed them to have a sort of stubby movement, where they waddled instead of fully walking. I wouldn't mind an updated Mii editor, but this is style is the kind that makes Nintendo feel more like a cold corporation than a charming game maker. And the funny thing is, THEY HAD AN UPDATED MII EDITOR THAT THEY ALREADY KNEW THE FANS LOVED. The editor in Miitopia had tons of new options, and fans had tons of fun. Why not improve that, or even just re-use it? I've seen games that have been able to re-use assets from previous games and still not make it look stale. I just wanted to say, that if tomodachi life ever gets a switch port, I want the old Mii's, and the comforting charm that came with it. Edit: i think that I noticed another thing that makes these new Mii's uncanny compared to the original. From what is shown here, you can't change their head shape or move/resize their facial features. That's why they don't look as unique.

The thing is the miis were good because they were super simple and extremely customizable the new ones feel like they are too modern

i really like your design ideas!

I must say, i do like the new mii's, their design is my kind of style but ofc the original miis have memories that will be in my heart forever.

I remember being 11 with my friends and laughing our asses off creating absurd miis, that was the appeal, and on top of that my/our generation grew up and we STILL find mii’s funny and charming. These new ones aren’t something that kids are gonna grow up with and think back on nostalgically in the same way as miis

For “new miis,” couldnt we have just gotten the regular ones with the miitopia customization options? Like damn, I really want the miitopia customization to be implemented into everything with miis, it really took making miis to a whole new level.

I think that they definitely need more face options, especially if they are going to replace the miis

In my opinion, there’s just little reason to shift to the new miis. There wasn’t anything wrong with the original design: it was so unique and fitting in the first place that we all became accustomed to it. Which naturally should indicate how good of a design they were, and still are. To put it bluntly, if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.

The best part of the old miis were the fact that they looked different, derpy, and relateable! They were not trying to be cool! They wanted to represent you in a derpy way that gave you the feeling of expressing yourself! I feel like that is how anyone should make a multigame character creator!

I never really noticed but yea I agree the bodies are more "realistic" than they should be & when u compared the new Miis to Animal Crossing it made so much sense.

i myself really like the designs, although I do 100% agree with you on the facial expressions. i really hope the game itself doesn’t get hate as the actual graphics, decoration, buildings and sports seem so cool and I’m super excited to play this

I think a really unsettling feature is the eyes; they have semi-realistic eyes without converged eyes. They have a dead stare and it's uncanny and SUPER creepy. Great job comparing them to animal crossing, it was really effective in showing why the new miis are so creepy

I wished that they just brought over the Mii editor from Miitopia, Then they can truly have versatile Miis

Honestly I personally think the biggest reason people hate the new replacements for the mii’s is because we’re so attached to mii’s already, I think Nintendo would be way more successful with this new game if they just use mii’s for it, and if they want to switch it up they could do something like they did with Miitopia and add new customization options.

I personally do quite like the new avatars- You bring up some very good points

The reason I don’t like these characters is that between them and the different setting, it feels like Switch Sports is a Wii Sports successor in name only. Like one of those games that’s trying to be Wii Sports, but not really Wii Sports. You know what I’m saying? Like they took some Wii Sports clone and slapped the label of “successor” on it without consideration for any similarities beyond “vacation sports game”. And Miis in general are underused on the Switch, so it feels like insult to injury! Also, you can’t even change the facial structures! The whole situation would be more forgivable if they weren’t promoting this as the official sequel to Wii Sports Resort, or if you got to choose if the background characters were Miis or the new characters.

I like that Nintendo is trying to spruce things up a bit and give things a fresh look, but some things like the mii characters are originals that you can't beat. 😔

My main problem with the new miis is how childish they look. The usual Miis were great because they didn't really look like any specific age, unless there were wrinkles added. When I see wrinkles or a beard on these new guys it looks even weirder. The miis are supposed to be universal and good for everyone but these just cater to children.

i like that in your edit the new mii looks like it's carrying an egg :)

Maybe the internet can bully Nintendo about the new Mii’s just as relentlessly as they bullied Paramount about the character design in Sonic the Hedgehog and they’ll change them back.

I really hope the Switch eventually will allow us to create mii's with more customization options. The way these guys all blend together, on top of not being that appealing is a huge issue for me. I miss the simple cute/derpy mii's man

Honestly what bugs me the most about the "New Miis" is that Nintendo had a perfect opportunity to bring the "Old" Miis back. There barely are any games with Miis on the switch, and switch sports would’ve been just be, like, nice to have Miis. I mean, why has the switch a Mii option if they’re almost never used..

Love that ur branching out and do other stuff then top 10 videos. Personally as one of the early followers, I can’t wait for BOTW2 coming out. When it comes out pleasd hammer 100% down on it. I expect massive growth ;)

For me a big part of the Mii’s we’re the cpus. Facing an opponent who looked like they all had distinct personalities, added a whole other layer of fun. For instance Michael from Wii sports just looks like he’s challenging you, and every time I see him I just need to beat him. Matt gives off confidence in his face. It feels like Lucia is hardcore taunting you. Ryan doesn’t seem good at anything but just wants to have a good time. I’m so sure none of these blank faced avatars are going to give that same feeling.

"You got that, buster?" I feel personally attacked by this.

I'm assuming that the new design was an attempt to create more realistic characters especially in the hands and feet. The thing is, there are a handful of games that pull this off great with the OG Mii style. Take MK8 or Wii Party U.

New Mii's: More detail, more accurate body has fingers, etc. Old Mii's: Triangle body, stick arms XD, ball for hands... Internet: Ahh yes we like old it better and more accurate

The sphere hands were a classic. I missed them

My personal reason is that the miis had some “lore” on them. Even if they acted similar they all were different, they had certain miis they would go with, some miis could even be enemies, and a few had a little backstory, like: -Matt defeating other Mii on boxing long ago. -Yoshi being the original champion of ping pong and Lucia’s master and getting overthrown by her pupil. The Wuhu island also was an amazing location that really felt like a paradise of pixels, and the new avatars just have mainstream courts or stages to perform their sport. I’m sad all of the Mii characters (CPU) are gone and we won’t even see them in this new sports game, I would have really loved to know more about them.

My one issue is that a lot of their customization I've seen so far seems to just be upscaled from Animal Crossing New Horizons ( you can especially see this at 0:22 ). I like them, but not as Miis - maybe they could use a different name, and be a seperate entity from Mii's? Yuu's maybe?

i love the egg your mii is holding!

at first I thought I liked them being a bit taller, but when you shortened them I was like oooh yeah this is how they're supposed to be like

The main problem with them to me is that they are just too samey and generic. They all just look the same and all look like something that would’ve came out of the xbox avatar creator or Oculus avatar creator. The older miis were more simple, but I think that was their strongsuit because it gave them more variety in facial features.

Why do I suddenly miss the "sphere hands" and the stiff motions? It's like what made miis the best 😭

Ok but the bowling bowl turning into an Easter egg is perfection to me.

The faces of the new mii characters didn't bug me too much but the bodies and head proportion definitely did. I think what you did to fix the proportions make them look a lot better and I would also love to see more customization, I hope maybe there wasn't as much because they wanted to save some stuff and hold back from the trailer.

I personally think they looks fine, the only problem is that the miis were so iconic, I don't know why they would replace them :(

The miis are so simple and effective at creating ACTUAL similarities with seemingly few characteristics to customize (hair, eyes, nose, mouth) The chibi, 3d anime trying too hard to be realistic but crealry not at all is just uncanny AF and lack creating that connection of 'look is me in a game' to a 'this is the best I can do with it, it looks nothing like me, they all have the same face...at least the hair is somewhat like mine'

I actually don’t hate the designs of the new characters, but I’m just surprised that Nintendo didn’t advertise miis instead considering they heavily rely on nostalgia in their games now. They’re not really bad designs but they’re not the same as the miis

They just look like teenager animal crossing models 💀.

I can understand everyone's reasoning for not necessarily liking these new characters because the Mii characters were simplistic but very customizable. However I think a certain factor also plays a part for the disdain of the new characters are people dont care for the change. It's obvious that there are many valid issues as to why people don't like these new character compared to the classic miis, but this is a new system and it's not bad to have a fresh take since this is a new Nintendo sports game new implementations are bound to be added. Now I know a lot of comments are going to come after me and say "oh but the miis are fine don't fix something that ain't broken" or "it's not about that it's about their overall designs" I've never dismiss that those are very understandable. I'm just saying that because people have such fond memories the finesse of Nostalgia trips with the miis in Wii Resort and Wii Sports and making funny customizable Miis that it's harder for them to try and be okay with the introduction of something new especially with the Classic Miis. And who knows this is the only trailer of the new Wii sports game that we have until the official release we could be very surprised at the game's launch day with the amount of customisation options and such we just have to be patient and see. So again I myself like the Miis and I can understand the uninterest for the new Sports characters I think it's best to wait and see because we may be pleasantly surprised.

I think one issue with this "new Miis" is there don't seem to be as customizable as Miis of past consoles. With Miis you could make a character that can look from a 5 year to an elderly person, but this ones seems to be always look like preteens not matter what. And doesn't seem to have many options to change facial features, if you look closely there all have the same nose, which among other things makes them look more like wooden dolls rather than caricatures of real people.

I am just now seeing this and personally I love the new mini characters I think they are cute but I agree with some things you said in this video! :)

I like the new designs, but they do need more customization options. The proportions don't bother me because they are a partial chibi. It's not as popular as traditional chibi, so not used as often, but it is a thing. They should be more expressive as well.