Why Peugeot Traveller is better than Volkswagen? All secrets (Citroen Spacetourer, Toyota Proace

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2 жыл бұрын

I have been the owner of Volkswagen minibuses for many years. Now I bought a Peugeot. I am ready to share my impressions with you. Which is better, Volkswagen Caravelle or Peugeot Traveller?

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@alvinmwangi 2 жыл бұрын

all the things that a real driver thinks about on a daily basis while using any car...this isn't a Traveller video, this is a car owners' consideration tutorial! Subscribed

@PULSEmultimedia 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you)

@rpmi-1640 2 ай бұрын

In my Volvo XC90 automatic centralized locking system had to be programmed by the dealer because they charged for such feature. Man, I love your video. Such an amount of insightful information. Made me want this car.

@fijau 6 ай бұрын

This review is packed full of information, unlike typical, superficial car reviews. I love it.

@burropoco 2 жыл бұрын

This review is amazingly detailed. So pleased to find it. Excellent job.

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!)

@mark4joanne 8 ай бұрын

Great video. We've been looking at the VW caravelle and shuttle. Also the Peugeot Traveller and its sisters, the proace verso and the space tourer

@silvercamper649 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant video proper review I nearly brought a £54,000 vw but changed my mind at the last minute thank god😂

@pranon2 4 ай бұрын

Great Video, much Informations. Thanks very much

@therealfox 9 ай бұрын

Where is the video with the android radio installing and also where did you buy leather seat covers? Thanks in advance

@Elwooddudes 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like a nice van, wish I could afford one 😅 I have 2009 model for work… maybe one day!

@CRiTiCA-CHRIS Жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO with IMPORTANT INFORMATION! THANK YOU!

@liamcoyle2168 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thanks.

@isudo-isudo 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic review! I'm sold! 🤝👍

@PULSEmultimedia 8 ай бұрын

Thanks )

@StanTregubenko 2 жыл бұрын

Доброго временни суток. Сталкивались ли с таким? машина не заводилась неделю, пытаюсь завести , выдаёт energy economy mode activate. Кто сталкивался, посоветуйте что делать в таком случае?

@pakcikmustaqim 2 ай бұрын

Nice.. I'm planning to get one.

@rpmi-1640 2 ай бұрын

That tiny rearview mirror you installed inside of the vehicle is for dead angles? Can't you just replace the mirror outside with a split view type one for dead angles?

@chrischallenger9010 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely great Brake down of the Peugeot traveller

@josipvrdoljak9053 Жыл бұрын

What are you going to do when they start to break down and you need to fix them? Especially el.problems

@frederikvaningelgem7515 2 жыл бұрын

I have a similar citroen jumpy- I like it very much-

@user-bn9ty2rp3x 8 ай бұрын

👏Отличный обзор👍 Будут деньги возьму😊

@peterfeeney721 Жыл бұрын

Excellent, comprehensive report by someone who really knows the vehicle. I particularly liked that you included negatives making the report fair. Well done! More please.

@pulsetechnology2433 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback) Soon I will have the second part. Subscribe

@petehughes1644 Жыл бұрын

Any videos fitting a swivel seat attachment for single seat behind driver? Uk? Cheers. Great videos!

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Hello. Thanks for the feedback. I did not provide a seat mount. What for? The seat can simply be pulled out of the rail and inserted backwards.

@petehughes1644 Жыл бұрын

@@PULSEmultimedia I will have to try that! Didn’t think you could! Thank you

@abramo3xx 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this very good video with a lot of practical tips about important details (like position of exhaust pipe, volume of cleaning liquid tank, ...). As you say yourselves the car journalists generally do not report about these important technical differences. I completely agree with you that the Peugeot Traveller is cheaper but at the same time better than the VW T5 / T6 in a lot of points. The VW T5 is a car of 2003. The VW T6 (2015) and T6.1 (2019) are actually only face lifts of the T5. So T6 and T6.1 are also actually based on a old platform of 2003 and have only a few improvements. That is why in my opinion the T6 / T6.1 is much too expensive for an old technology and I agree with you that the Peugeot Traveller is a better and cheaper alternative. Anyway today it is also important to compare the Peugeot Traveller with the new VW T7 (2021). In my opinion VW improved a lot of points with this new T7: - based on modern MQB platform (like current Passat, Golf, ...) - better drive comfort than T6 (similar to Traveller or even better) - theoretically less noisy than T6 (but I tried the T7 and actually I am not so sure) - seats are much easier to move and remove, very flexible seat configuration - T7 is 1,90m high (against 2m high for T6) - T7 is 2,25m wide incl. side mirrors (against 2,3m wide for T7) - T7 is approx 200kg lighter than T6 ... However the T7 is not perfect and some points are better in the T6 or Peugeot Traveller: - max. 7 seats in the T7 (perfect for me but some people needs 8 or 9 seats) - T7 is 4,97m long = slightly longer than T6 (4,90m) but actually smaller inside (almost no trunk available in T7 with all 7 seats installed) ! - ... Currently I hesitate between Peugeot Traveller (or Citroen/Toyota) and VW T7 for my next car. And your video is helpful. Thanks again.

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a detailed answer. Of course, each car has its pros and cons. But there is one important detail that VW probably won't have. I mean soft suspension. German cars have always been tough and will probably stay that way. Peugeot is a very comfortable soft car. I fell in love with him for it. In addition, I believe in the reliability of the Japanese Aisin automatic transmission. As far as I know, this model is put on Toyota and Lexus. I like the pockets in the sliding doors and the speed limiter. I wonder if the T7 finally made a speed limiter or is it still just a beep?

@megane230f1 2 жыл бұрын

A vw transporter is a typical example of cost and value and thats not been worth what they cost to make

@yukselyldz 2 жыл бұрын

@CrazyHHO19 2 жыл бұрын

@@pulsetechnology2433 hi buddy same here...i had citroens and peugeots all my life .. in 2019 i bought vw passat and boy i regret it very quickly and sold it very fast and went back to Citroën.HDI is much quieter and smother than tdi..despite vw dsg gearbox is fantastic its still not enough to attract me to vw

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

I have a new video about Peugeot Travelle coming out soon. Second series) Subscribe so you don't miss out. I will talk about BlueAdge, about malfunctions, about fuel consumption and much more.

@pietervanbeveren6290 Жыл бұрын

I like your video's! Can you please make a video for the aftermarket radio.

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Hello! I will release many new videos in English if the number of subscribers to the channel is 1000+

@PULSEmultimedia 9 ай бұрын

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@steinarbrevikknudsen1546 2 ай бұрын

The armrest? Do you have the link?

@maximimturning Жыл бұрын

Hello.. Fab video mate thanks. Please can you post me the link to the arm rest video Max

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Hi, Max! Thanks for the feedback! Subscribe to my youtube channel. I will have this video here soon.

@pulsetechnology2433 Жыл бұрын

You can watch my video of how I fixed the armrest here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8mdn6ppsLfcZYU.html

@johnmalmgren905 5 ай бұрын

Great indept video

@jacekkapanowski5815 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this intersting review, I didn’t realize there are so many interesting and practical solutions in this van. I only wish Peugeot/Citroen/Toyota made a version like Multivan, with seats folding into a bed. That would make it a basic campervan.

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

I had a multivan with a sofa that folds out into a bed. I've used it twice in 6 years! It's only beautiful in dreams. In real life, this couch is not comfortable to sleep on. But most importantly, it is very heavy. Getting him out of the car is extremely difficult. In fact, this is a very large heavy thing that gets in the way in the car. If you want to transport any cargo. For example, a closet, refrigerator or bicycles, then this turns into a problem. Need help to get him out. For many years I dreamed of a car with such a sofa. But only when I bought the T5 multivan, I realized how inconvenient this thing is. Yes, it's a paradox This is probably why, many years later, VW abandoned this sofa. T7 no longer has it. The Germans made seats like Peugeot. Probably understood that it was more convenient and practical.

@jacekkapanowski5815 2 жыл бұрын

@@pulsetechnology2433 Thanks for your comments, I’m having this dream too :-). I had Renault Trafic converted into a campervan with pop-up roof but it was filled with furniture and proved impractical for every day use. So now I thought a Multivan type van would be a better compromise. But I can imagine how inconvenient it could be to remove a heavy sofa when you want to transport something big. A campervan like VW California is also attractive but is very expensive and can take only 4 passengers. So it looks like your Peugeot may be the optimum choice :-)

@pepperlx9277 Жыл бұрын

Hello. Greetings from Malaysia. Is the Traveller is Long version? We only have Standard version here.

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Hello! Long version.

@albates3601 Жыл бұрын

Wow ! what a fantastic review of a real world owner - Thank you

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Thank you for feedback )

@SitemarkdCoUk Жыл бұрын

Where did you purchase the Leather Seat covers from? Thanks.

@PULSEmultimedia 9 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdSPZ5thpp-Wfps.html

@maxmatten64 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic review, thank you!

@HiluxV6 11 ай бұрын

Super video, bravo

@PULSEmultimedia 11 ай бұрын

Thank you)

@henrycro8970 9 ай бұрын

But you did amazing job dude

@Bogdankhromov 10 ай бұрын

Спасибо за отличный обзор!

@jamesbeaumont8330 9 ай бұрын

How’s the vehicle held up after a year of use. Any faults or issues?

@PULSEmultimedia 9 ай бұрын

Hello. My car is several years old. There are no breakdowns. Like new)

@jasonkal4312 Жыл бұрын

I like how you compare VW & Peugeot, I think Peugeot Traveler and Toyota Proace Verso are equal. Just like you have used many VW cars, I am a loyal Toyota user for a long time. But after watching your video maybe I also want to try changing my habits.

@pulsetechnology2433 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I think it's always good to try something new ) How do you rate the quality of the translation into English? Is it comfortable to watch?

@jasonkal4312 Жыл бұрын

@@pulsetechnology2433 I'm a German so I'm not sure my English is perfect but I think the quality of the English translation is good, easy to understand and detailed in my opinion. Can you tell me what year your Peugeot Traveler was manufactured? I am learning more about Traveler to change car. Thank you very much.

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

@@jasonkal4312 Danke für das Feedback ) Mein Auto von 2020. Das Auto wurde in Russland zusammengebaut. Citroen und Opel werden im selben Werk montiert. Soweit ich weiß, wurden auch Autos aus Russland exportiert. Aber jetzt sind die Sanktionen auf die Invasion der Ukraine zurückzuführen. Ich weiß nicht, ob die Anlage läuft. Vielleicht hat er ein Problem mit den Details. Vor dem Krieg wurden viele Autos zusammengebaut. Die Bauqualität ist gut. Ich habe keine Beschwerden.

@jasonkal4312 Жыл бұрын

@@PULSEmultimedia oh Sie können Deutsch. Super. Ich denke, Ihre Autobewertung ist realistisch und spezifisch. Früher war ich von Autos aus Frankreich nicht beeindruckt , aber vor etwa 5-6 Jahren haben sich die französischen Autohersteller sehr positiv verändert. Vom Exterieur-Design bis zum Interieur, Autoausstattung zu einem günstigen Preis für den Verbraucher. Damit hat Peugeot die Kundenpsyche eingefangen.

@Elrossico Жыл бұрын

It is all PSA group parts only Toyota by badge, many problems with UK versions apparently

@Punjabicameraa Жыл бұрын

Can you make video on toyota proace verso please.?

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Hello! Toyota Proace Verso is exactly the same car. Only the logo is different.

@henrycro8970 9 ай бұрын

Great

@cengawer Жыл бұрын

Great video love it. However I noticed that the model provided in Russia is different than the models in Turkey. I guess Peugeot has different policies in equipments/options for different countries (for example the major difference that I noticed is floor rails are completely different, Russian version is better)

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

thanks for the positive feedback) I have visited Turkey several times. You have a lot of volkswagen Transporter that have tuning and improvements. Peugeot almost never saw. Are these cars delivered to you from France?

@cengawer Жыл бұрын

@@PULSEmultimedia first of all Volkswagen is very popular brand in Turkey. Streets are full VW or VW's group cars. So this is also reflected in Transporter models. (I am writing this message at a cafe where there is 2010s model Transporter in front of 😀) Another popular model is Mercedes Vito , but this is mostly used for tourism purposes (transfering tourists from place to another / excursions...etc.) Peugeot, on the other hand, is popular brand for regular cars, but Traveller model is not that much popular, I don't see them so often in roads. They are imported from France. I see Traveller models on local Turkish second hand sale websites. As mentioned in my previous post, the some of options are not the same as the model which you presented (I.e. seats, floor rails are major differences). Your model seems better in these options.

@AdornmentFreak 4 ай бұрын

Is this the standard length or the longer one? Thanks

@PULSEmultimedia 4 ай бұрын

Longer

@charlesdr1981 2 жыл бұрын

What do you think of Hyundai Staria?

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

When I bought the Peugeot Traveler, the Hyundai Staria wasn't on the market yet. But before buying my last car VW Caravelle, I went to test drive a Hyundai H1 (Starex). I didn't like the car. Poor visibility of the road, handling is not very good. I also don’t like rear-wheel drive in Hyundai, short rails on the floor. There is no possibility of transformation of the cabin. And I also noticed that Hyundai rust very quickly. Russia has severe winters. Here, the poor body quality of Hyundai minivans is very noticeable. And my dad has a Hyundai iX35 (Tucson). It doesn't rust at all. There is a feeling that Hyundai minivans have problems with the body. I looked at reviews of Hyundai Staria. I think the car is small. There is no interior transformation. Maybe the Hyundai Staria is a good car. But I don't trust her.

@rustukoseoglu7983 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your detailed review. The exhaust outlet not reaching to back of the car is not good. The smoke outlet midway under the body will soot the underpinning badly in long term. Additionally, there is risk of exhaust gas to penetrate into the cabin from floor.

@erezyoal Жыл бұрын

This van is from stalantis group wich is puogot, citroen opel, fiat and toyota

@dildeepsingh3926 Жыл бұрын

Legend

@north5760 7 ай бұрын

Great video but buyer beware with the Peugeot vans and their other brands Citoren etc, they have massive adblue issues. The tanks regularly fail to accurately read whats in them, so when it says its running out its not, which means you are always filling it to find it takes only 4 to 6 litres. Then there is the issue with AdBlue consumption mine consumes a litre per 100 miles! Take a deep dive on the internet and forums they are not a good buy for these issues and Peugeot cannot fix them, they basically tell you its fixed, return it and its not fixed, even if its under warranty expect it to drag on until warranty runs out then they leave you hanging. Peugoet have not only admitted they have issues but their senior manager literally asked their customer services how to spin it to sound better via email (obtained through freedom of information request).

@littlemisssunshine2931 5 ай бұрын

I hope VW is watching.

@LucWijdeveld 2 жыл бұрын

👌👌👌👌👌

@janinecupples7804 8 ай бұрын

Hallo is this L2 or L3 traveller thanks

@PULSEmultimedia 8 ай бұрын

Hello. I don't know what L2 and L3 are. This is a long version, medium configuration. In our country it is called Peugeot Traveller Long active

@garethjudd5840 Жыл бұрын

Anything is better than a VW.

@dertigerbauch Жыл бұрын

12:34 I hope you haven't installed the left armrest WHILE driving lol

@pulsetechnology2433 Жыл бұрын

If you are interested, you can watch my video on how I fixed the armrest kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8mdn6ppsLfcZYU.html

@jacklesg2527 2 жыл бұрын

Why did we chose VW? Quite simple, you've got 4Motion(awd). I can't understand why nobody is interested anymore in making awd vehicles.. + the seats stop at every position, meanwhile with the Citroen we only had like 3 positions.

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

I don't quite understand what you are talking about. Peugeot Traveler is available in 4x4 version. The seat adjustment step in the rail is 2-3 cm.

@jacklesg2527 2 жыл бұрын

@@pulsetechnology2433 where do you get the 4x4? In my country it's only 2FWD unless you go to a specialized firm(dangel), which costs a lot. We did test the Citroen and we'rent too happy with the arrangement of the seats. There are many good things about the car, it just wasn't the right choice for us.

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

@@jacklesg2527 Peugeot Traveler, Citroen Spacetourer and Opel Zafira Life are assembled in Russia. Previously, French-made cars were brought to us. Now we have a big factory that assembles these cars. They are delivered to Russia and Europe. There is the usual factory equipment 4x4. You can buy from a dealer without any problems. Here is a 4x4 advertisement in Russian. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5N0dtJjldzGeYk.html

@petrchochole7884 Жыл бұрын

@@pulsetechnology2433 Not chance to buy it in EU. That's wierd. Only way how buy it for us is order new P/C/O/T car with change in Dangel company. But it's very expensive, only for manual shift and you have to keep your reserve wheel inside car then, not under (that's logical - back differencial there).

@lilin0807 Жыл бұрын

Best review ever!

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

Thank you)

@CosgroveNotts 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure Peugeot can fix them when they go wrong.

@volt8684 2 жыл бұрын

French cars rock imo. Maybe lucky but never a major problem

@Erwt64 2 жыл бұрын

Poojoe? Is that a new brand?

@pulsetechnology2433 2 жыл бұрын

This is a small bug in the Text to Speech technology. I don't think this is a problem for those who understand what the video is about) Brand is Peugeot.

@snowdrop629 Жыл бұрын

Too funny

@snowdrop629 Жыл бұрын

Great review by a driver , not a seller, lots of detail

@josipvrdoljak9053 Жыл бұрын

Ok mate, I can see you are not a vw fan 😂

@neilburns8869 Жыл бұрын

To cut a long story short, Peugeot offers far better value for money than Volkswagen. Take a bow, Stellantis.👏👍🤝

@shes1makine 2 ай бұрын

Well what about fuel injectors 😏 this is where Mercedes vito \v class etc or a vw multivan or even a ford can overtake easily your traveller.anyway it good to have options for less 40 k euros and be happy with a full option minivan, but German vans are another league , truth be told

@Snaap525 Жыл бұрын

Где можна посмотреть этот обзор без англ озвучки сверху?

@PULSEmultimedia Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bp6fZcZeqJu5iX0.html

@henrycro8970 9 ай бұрын

You have to know that all this details are comung from Toyota.

@MrAttibaba 2 жыл бұрын

Ez a kocsi egy nagy szar. Nekem volt, újonnan vettem, 0 km. 18 hónapig volt a tulajdonomban, 18 alkalommal volt garanciális szervízben. Az első hiba, 2 hetes volt a kocsi, amikor az első esőben a legelső törlésre a hátsó ablaktörlő eltört. Aztás szépen sorban: a második űléssor jobb szélső űlését mivel zörögni kezdett, ki kellett cserélni.2000 km volt a kocsiban, amikor megragadt a klímakompresszor, vitt magával mindent, szivattyút, stb. A két elhúzható tolóajtó beleért a hátsó sárvédőkbe, a festéket megsértve. A tolóajtók mozogtak, a támasztó bakok leszedték az oszlopokról a festéket. A Tom Tom fejegység a legváratlanabb pillanatokban lefagyott, újra indult hosszú percekig bootolva. Kicserélték, de az se volt jobb. Most jön a lényeg: a kocsit 180LE 2.0 HDI motorrla rendeltem. Mivel furcsán váltott az autó, illetve a beígért 6L-es fogyasztás közelében sem volt ( a tényleges 12-13L!) kértem ellenőrizzék. Hibát ugyan nem jelzett a gép, de a szervízben a jelenségnek már volt kódja. Mivel nem hagyott a dolog nyugodni, a kocsit saját költségemen bemérettem egy versenyautók gyártására szakosodott cég Dyno mérőpadján. A gyári 180LE-nek nyoma sem volt, szerény 140LE-t mértek, a nyomaték a 440Nm helyett pedig 320Nm volt. A gyártói képviselet csak hosszas huzavona után ismerte el a különbséget, de nem tudtak vele mit kezdeni, aztán valószínűleg megtuningoltatták, az eredmény 168LE 420Nm. Mivel a 180LE és a 150LE kivitel között vételárban 3.000.000,-Ft különbség volt kértem a kompenzálást, vagy a kocsi cseréjét, de szóba sem álltak velem. Pereskedni sem akartam, Magyarországon ilyen jellegű perek 5-10 évig eltartanak, az eredmény pedig nem nekem kedvezett volna. Így az eladás mellett döntöttem. Fél év alatt sikerült megszabadulnom tőle, a veszteség 4.700.000,-Ft lett 18 hónap alatt..... Ezek után vettem egy VW T6 Caravelle-t és láss csodát, hiba nélkül, ereje teljében űködött. Úgyhogy miért jobb ez a szar Traveller mint egy Multivan? Semmiért. Csak szeretnének olyanok lenni, de soha nem érik el a szintjüket. Ha csak eza márka maradna a világon, inkább lóval fogok járni, addig meg maradnak a VW konszern autói.

@PULSEmultimedia 2 жыл бұрын

У меня эта машина уже третий год. Вообще нет ни каких поломок. Расход реальный 6-8 литров. У вас возможно был высокий расход, так как машина была новая. У нового автомобиля может быть повышенный расход топлива. Об этом написано в инструкции. Это нормально. У VW так же. Потом расход топлива уменьшается. Двери действительно задевали кузов автомобиля, но это первые партии. Потом проблему исправили. У меня двери не задевают кузов. У моего прошлого vwT5 двери царапали кузов до металла. А краска возле ручки сдвижной двери на multivan t5 покрывалась ржавчиной моментально. Это у них была фирменная проблема. Потом поправили. Не надо идеализировать vw. Возможно вы на нем не достаточно много ездили. Что касается мощности - многое зависит от качества дизельного топлива. У меня машина российской сборки. Раньше у нас продавали французские. Очень хороший автомобиль. У меня на русском KZfaq канале, очень много положительных откликов от владельцев этой машины. Vw то же отличная машина. Но и у неё есть ряд недостатков. Какие цены в Венгрии? У нас цена на vw почти в два раза дороже. Vw хороший авто, но не стоит своих денег. Возможно у нас в России высокая цена из за большой пошлины на импорт. А peugeot traveller собирается в России. Для России и на экспорт в европу.

@MrAttibaba 2 жыл бұрын

@@PULSEmultimedia a leírt hibák egy új autótól elfogadhatatlanok!!!! A VW 18.000.000,-Ft lett volna, a Traveller 12.000.000,- Ft volt akkor. Mivel többet állt a szervízben, mint futott nálam, ezért nem használhattam eleget. A márka importőr hozzáállása a problémához kritikán aluli volt. Csesszék meg. Az én autóm Szlovákiában készült. Nem idealizálom a VW, de az működik legalább. Az üzemanyagról annyit, csakis csúcsdízelt tankolok, OMV MAXXMOTION, SHELL VPOWER, MOL EVO PLUS, etc. Megnyugtatlak a dízel minősége jobb mint nálatok, ez nem volt oka a túlfogyasztásnak. Egyszerűen rossz volta motor, gyárilag nem volt meg a kellő teljesítmény, ezt hitelesítve bizonyítottam. Mértünk más ugyanilyen kocsit az rendben volt. Kértem cseráljék ki, nem tették, hetekig, hónapokig szerelgették. Nem azért vettem, hogy szervízben álljon, dolgozni kellett volna vele. Anélkül hogy idealizálnám a VW autóit, azok a kötelező szervízen kivül alig kérnek valamit. Az üzembiztonság, a bosszantó apró hibák nélkül boldogabban élek. Azt megjegyezném, amennyiben a márkaképviselet másképp kezelte volna a problémámat, elképzelhető, hogy még ma is Travellerrel járnék. De így, tudván, hogy ha probléma van akkor azt nem akarják megoldani, soha többet Peugeot, Citroen.