I e-mailed customer service with a question last Friday and got an answer back Monday. Haven't had to return the printer (still waiting till September for it) but I hope it's that easy.

I'd also like to add the resin costs twice as much so you spend a lot more as you print.

thank you ,i think the youtubers are missing this whole point ,they have forgot where the came from ...............its only $899 the price of 4 tanks of gas

I think it depends what you’re after. The detail you get on these printers is insane. If you’re just after stuff that looks good at over arms length away on the table, then this isn’t what you’re after. If you’re wanting to print detailed stuff for painting display type stuff, then you want the best quality printer you can get.

@@ThePickleJar it’s the cost that is insane! Maybe if your business is reliant on high spec printing then £800+ is a justifiable cost that you can write off against business expenses but for the average hobbyist (or even the most anally challenged nerd) it just doesn’t stack up. Luke should remember that his original KZfaq was Luke’s Affordable Painting - the 4K printers are just about becoming affordable - but the 8Ks are not

@@stevieandthebarbies yeah I get you. Just trying to add that perspective if you get what I mean

Hi, there. Unless the build plate it visibly bent, you should be able to flatten it. in this video, under preparing your build plate (at 3:53), it explains how this can be done. whambamsystems.com/fbs-for-resin-support. Hope this helps.

@@GeekGamingScenics awesome. Thanks a million man

Bought me one of these too. I‘m quit curious wether it is better then the Phrozon one, or not.

@@kevinschwager4327 the phrozen has more features but is also more expensive. The prints that come off both will be nearly identical though, theres very little difference between printers mechanically speaking.

@@GeekGamingScenics got a saturn and a mars never had a prob and the saturn was the early bird so it a ver 1 ,still working

I myself haven't had much luck with elegoo printers so I tend to steer clear of them anymore. Obviously, that's just my bad luck as many others are happy with the brand, which is fine. This printer is technically only $600, but sadly the s/h from them is extremely expensive. Hopefully they get more stock built up in the US and other countries to help alleviate that issue.

@@MrNickpeck36 pls stop the sales pitch my god its just sad "technically"..... in fact its $899........................

@@warshak11 I got both of mine for $600 ($829 w/ an added bundle items and discount code), looks like the last promo is over, so yes, it is now $899. Not including the ridiculous s/h cost from them though, so expect another $2-400 sadly. I have had good luck with Anycubic printers though, they have been pretty solid, though I just sold off my x2 6k monos and x2 M3 Plus printers to pay for other stuff recently. Wash n Cure XL is a great setup as well imo.

I have had good luck with my Elagoo Mars and my Anycubic 6K so far. Hope to see people do comparison videos between the Might 8K and the Saturn 2

@@GeekGamingScenics thanks Luke. Appreciate it

This right here is the stuff its best to look at pixel size I think thats why dlp printers can get such high resolution you take a 2k projector and project that onto a 4"x3" area and you can get extreme amounts of pixels per inch.

I agree. Its easier to talk good about a printer when you don't have to pay 800$ for it. If he had to pay the full price for the printer maybe then the reviews would account for the price vs what you get

I’ve got the mini 4K and recently upgraded to the Saturn S which I just can’t get enough of, and replacement parts are so much cheaper too.

@@markedwards2607 i just bought a used salvage mars 3 to replace my original mars and just had to replace the fep absolutely great printer so ar plan on buying a saturn 2 when I get a chance.

Australia has very good consumer laws for this shit . Try your government equivalent

the new slicing software along with the tech upgrades have made it easy to just hit auto support and just slice and plug and play. It's really alot easier than two years ago I can tell you that and lychee slicer has a lot of community profiles for different resins to get started with you spend a good 3 or 4 hours watching youtube vids and read a bit and you can learn all you need to get started.

It isn't a separate hobby at all, resin printers are super easy to use. My Mars 3 was great right out of the box. Dudes will call 3D printing another hobby then turn around and switch on their compressor and extractor fan just so they can save some time basecoating with an airbrush.

I have that printer, and I can tell you, do upgrade your Firmware. I've bought it to use with the eco resin they made. Its cheap and good

I have Mini 4K, that Z axis was a problem, but as far as I know, they started shipping it with upgraded Z axis some time ago (original is just two alu-plate connected at 90°, new one is milled from one piece and rail is upgraded to mgn15h). I just lowered lifting speed to 40 and didn't have problem so far, no matter how tall model is

@@GeekGamingScenics no problem, glad I could help. One more thing with these high resolution printers, maybe try to do comparison between 0.05, 0.03 and 0.02 mm layer because, at least to me (4k resin), it doesn't look like much of a difference, but time savings are massive (tried it for myself and didn't see much of a difference between 0.05 and 0.02 if object has organic geometry),

Look at elegoo's saturn 2 its 8k and much cheaper.

Resin is not durable to the point where its rubbery like reaper bones. Its a hard plastic, and most brands are a little brittle. However you can offset this with different options like Siraya tech tenacious. Mixing it 1:10 ratio. My personal results come from using the tenacious with fast navy grey. -- Note that adding tenacious to any mix is well tenacious. It makes support removal slightly more difficult. Pass on the phrozon 8k mighty if you're just printing miniatures and you're not working against the deadline. Go with the elegoo saturn 2 if you want something much more affordable, with an even bigger build volume than the phrozone mighty. + its half the price.

@@gremilllion started messing with Tenacious recently, it really helps to keep models from just snapping while working on them. Really glad I tried it out as durability was my biggest concern with resin models.

@@demon1103 I find that any more than 10% in volume makes removing supports too difficult especially with spindly bits.

@@gremilllion yeah, about 10% is what I'm doing. removing supports is a "little" more effort than before, but not a lot. Then again a soak in hot water is just magic for support removal.

If you can put it in blender then you can 3D print it

No wifi :(

siraya tech is nice i just didnt care for the elegoo brand

I've never had a problem with my elegoo printers.

@@samellowery i m sorry if my other comment came off as p*ssy i had be awake about 30 sec with sleep still in my eye and so use to getting jump on in the comments i went straight for defence

Yes, but I would make sure you know what you're doing before just starting a print and leaving it. I usually start a print after work or before bed and shut the machine off in the morning.

@@GeekGamingScenics Dosnt evaporating just work with isopropanol? Water must take weeks in such an amount or am i wrong ? :)

@@leeerbro5460 The way I do it is pretty simple, I dump my ultrasonic wash water in a big bucket and let it sit in the sun for a few days. At this point you can just sift / pick out the resin plastic and toss it in the trash since it's cured, as for the water, it's safe to dump it as it's just "dirty water" at this point. But don't be lazy and do it correctly as you can mess up plumbing and add nasty stuff to the local waste / water treatment plant :)

@@leeerbro5460 I think letting a decent amount of alcohol evaporate into the air is not exactly better than pouring resin down the sink.

@@oliverp3545 Care to back that statement up with some science?

@@archdeluxe290 ethanol evaporated into the environment produces nitrous oxides, which creates ozone.

Just my 2 cents here but if you're having issues with your mono 4k, that you can't seem to fix and printing has been a terrible experience for you. I Suggest you spend more time watching tutorials on how to fix your mono 4k issues and get that to print right in the first place. Buying a phrozen isn't going to magically fix stuff when stuff needs fixing. You need to know how to troubleshoot issues in this hobby or have someone close by that can offer assistance. A Phrozen machine isn't guaranteed to work flawlessly 24/7. I have a mono 4k too, and im buying a mighty 8K because Im realy hooked on printing and want better resolution and a bigger build volume.

@@SCABRFB So after 3 weeks they finally sent me an update , now the printer is finally up and running . In the meantime I bought the Mars Pro and that worked right out of the box like clockwork . And I was studying these way before I ever bought any of them Watched every Tutorial Till I Was Blue In The Face from watching everything that looked reasonable lol . I didn't jump in with calibration test I went full bore and used SirayaTech Clear resin and full plates multiple times and they all turned out perfect from the first . But it was a toss up between all the printers to buy and jumped into the 4k Photon just to try it out due to the price being less than 200. . But now as it is the 4k Is packed away as a backup . I still hate it with a passion cause from a company I would have expected something to work right out of the box for someone to learn and get started . I couldn't even get the thing to read anything off the USB . Put it in the PWMA file but nothing . So disappointing , and frustrating . I still would like to try the Phrozen , is was a tough choice . Then I seen they had a Creality HALOT-ONE Plus also that was 4k . But I have what I have and the final decision was in the Mars 3 Pro the sales add said will work with Lychee . And even before owning a printer I again had already downloaded Chitubox and Lychee to learn before I buy . I found Lychee so much easier for me . But one thing is for sure I was ready to throw in the towel after weeks and just give up on this hobby before I gave it one last try . Now I am trying to figure out what are the resins , what do each type do . What is the best or mixed , what is something a person can get cheaper that will do the same job . And lots of stuff to learn . Now I have my Autistic daughter learning with me . That was the whole reason I even got into the printer so I could get her engaged as she is getting older . Then this way we can build models and craft together as winter sets in .Anyways thanks for the two cents worth . Every bit can help , I live in an area where nobody messes around with this stuff and to find anyone best case is 60 miles away .

Isnt that the truth! All these printers use the same parts. Theres almost no difference between a phrozen / elegoo / anycubic printer of the same screen size and resolution.

The one Phrozen printer costs less then the two useless mono x printers collecting dust in my basement.

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial well you can send them to me if its just collecting dust

@@warshak11 why would you want 2 broken printers that don’t work properly? Parts to fix cost almost as much as a new printer.

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial one mans trash is another mans treasure ,and i like to tinker on stuff

@@warshak11 so you’d rather pay shipping prices on a broken machine, and buy parts that in total would cost more than just buying a good new printer? Good logic.

Both

If you're in the same situation as me: start with an airbrush ;-) then buy a 3d printer... the airbrush will help you deal with that huge pile of shame whereas the 3d printer will add new minis to paint... so start with the airbrush

@@jonathanj.1955 That is a fantastic point I've got far to many projects left to do so a 3D printer is a silly idea lol

@@jonathanj.1955 yes this, I'm guilty of doing it the other way around, I've made hundreds of minis and barley chipped at them until I got an airbrush, now I'm tackling a "Seraphon" army that is just OPR plus dino toys, it's 80 models made much easier to chip the processes down due to an airbrush.

@@GeekGamingScenics Sweet ! Can't wait to see that !

I've dealt with Anycubic, Elegoo and Phrozen customer service and the worst was Anycubic, that's only because they sent the wrong part so they had to resend the right part. Elegoo was probably the fastest to deal with but Phrozen was a close second. I got the printers direct from each company so it might be different if I got from a reseller.

Well it's for review purposes

When ALL the companies you compare are giving you the stuff for free it levels the playing field and makes “free” stuff irrelevant. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial Because people are blind and quick to hate on something they are jealous of.

@@BlackMagicCraftOfficial just not true lets open the books and see who is giving what then we can talk about a level playing field and besides if you are promoting the best stuff they will keep sending YOU the best stuff , why promo the cheaper stuff cause you know if you do the top dogs will not support you , Its like the GW channels they know if they say one bad thing they get cut off ................boy you guys are circling the wagons on this one

@@warshak11 wow. You have the critical thinking skills of a peanut.

@@warshak11 VOG had that problem with some of the reviews he did on printers where he didn't give great reviews and wasn't asked to review other machines.

Probably a repurposed screen from something else.

@@GeekGamingScenics sorry, didn't want to come off as a di**. It is just...a lot of content creators do exactly this, talking about experiences with their free stuff and calling it un-biased opinion/experience. No. it is biased when receiving a product for free. i) one is thankful (even when running a successful business and only 900$) and ii) if influencers would s**t on the received products the companies would immediately stop. My point is, psychologically speaking, even when one thinks they tell an honest and un-biased opinion, it can't be when they receive the products this way.

@@NightfallTH except Luke has “s**t” on multiple printers he’s received for free.

@@archdeluxe290 and that disproves any kind of bias, or what?

@@archdeluxe290 i see im not the only one putting you in your place lol ,you guys would fair much better if you stopped trying to disprove the bias with the line we got a bunch for free or he has s**t on other printers and to make it worse its the same group of youtubers circling the wagons on this how i should be done is how (project farm) no sponsers buys all the stuff 2.44 mil subs

@@warshak11 if you took all the time you’ve spent having tantrums in this comments section and used it to do something productive you might be able to afford $900. Maybe ask your mom.

That's why I buy Made in America or Made in the UK. They've never unjustly invaded anybo...I mean, they've never...they... Sorry, I was interrupting your baseless moral superiority, do continue

Fun fact, Taiwan belongs to China and always has. Despite what the media claims, it's never been a sovereign country. In reality, it's an occupied country (by the US) that China tolerates being occupied.

Nothing will save you more money in the hobby than a 3D printer.

Unless $800-$1000 is too much . . .

People are just rage jealous.

Not to be rude and I like his vids they are great but he absolutely sells stuff he owns a business of selling terrain building supplies and that's fine gotta make money somehow but he does sell things .

@@samellowery obviously, i wasn't talking about his own business. I did also clearly mention the word "expensive". Nowt Luke sells is £800.

Oh boo f’n hoo. Not every viewer is a broke bum.

@@GeekGamingScenics getting sent the printer for free is basically a form of payment and likely adds some bias to the review. The problem I have with these kinds of reviews is the content creater is incentivezed to give positive reviews to ensure that they remain on good terms with the company so that more free stuff gets sent in the future.

@@anab0lic Except that he gets free stuff from all the printer companies. This levels the playing field. He has no issue being negative about products he receives for free.

@@GeekGamingScenics they GIVE you printer of course your trying to sell printer through influencing...........so they will keep giving you free stuff , and dont trust anyone that is showing off stuff they got for free and are "taken care of"

@@warshak11 what about the free printers he received that he says you shouldn’t buy?