Why Players Are Worried About The Dune MMO

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Caffeinated Dad Gaming

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Күн бұрын

In my creation of a number of Dune Video's I have had quite a few players reach out to me and voice their concerns and many of them circulated around the developer, Funcom. I am going to review what has been said and explain why I think we should give them a fare shake.
0:00 Where This Is Coming From
0:27 The Concerns With Dune Awakening
8:54 Cautiously Optomistic
11:24 Latest Dune News
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@foxyboyish
@foxyboyish Ай бұрын
if they fuck this up funcom will die as a company
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
Honestly I can agree with that!
@estel-randir
@estel-randir Ай бұрын
I think some folks just get burnt out on some game developers, where one bad experience sometimes scorches the earth. (I am no exception with Turbine/SSG!) but I think it's good to remind folks that growth is possible and it's okay to be slightly optimistic.
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
I agree, I mean it's hard to shake a bad taste but you have to give each game a fair chance in my opinion
@yeost187
@yeost187 Ай бұрын
@@CaffeinatedDad I think its even more relevant that people need to quit working themselves into a tizzy, on things that haven't even happened yet. The game hasn't even been released, and more than likely none of these people, have even drop a dime into its development. Even if for some reason the game doesn't make it to release? It still doesn't affect them in any way. It will only affect FUNCOM, and their actual investors, who did front the money to start is development.
@Nephibis
@Nephibis 23 күн бұрын
Anarchy Online was one of my favorite MMO. I think it may have been the first I ever played. I loved it. I can't get too heavily into it now though, because i've gotten so used to action games that I hate turn-based games now. I only played them growing up because I didn't have a choice. I still think it is fun and I like the story and everything, but i've been really hoping for an action version of it. I haven't played most of their other games (just Conan and Secret World. I like both), but from looking online it seems like Anarchy Online would be the closest to it in regards to theme, so i'm looking forward to it. Though I learned that in Dune they hate AI, so I guess I won't be able to create a character with robot "pets", which sucks, because I like to go the engineer (robotic) route in games since I love robots. But the Dragonfly robot is at least something.
@ethanr3480
@ethanr3480 Ай бұрын
They stated on the discord that there’ll be another direct soon
@Notfakeultra
@Notfakeultra 18 сағат бұрын
Hopefully more games around the dune franchise come, not really interested in a mmo or a survival game.
@flamingmojo9575
@flamingmojo9575 Ай бұрын
Nice video! I think it's important to note the wider context around Conan Exiles - Funcom were effectively forced to release CE in Early Access before it was ready, otherwise they would have gone bankrupt. Since then they have stayed with the game to try build it into what they wanted. Also, at that time Discord did not exist as a community platform, so they missed that opportunity to have a solid channel of communication between themselves and their community. From what I've seen, they have made mistakes with CE and honestly there's a very vocal section of the playerbase that hate every single update, but any studio will get that. For D:A the situation is completely different, they are now owned by Tencent (for better or worse) which has not imposed arbritrary external deadlines, but given them plenty of time and resources to make a solid game, and they've built it from the ground up, not just "reskinning" the Conan Engine. As for the lack of gameplay - it's simply not ready yet 😅 There has been a lot of active development they have told us about on the official discord (strongly recommend joining that!), like the melee combat is undergoing major changes apparently. Also fwiw those screenshots looked like some of the very early press material they released from the early alpha over a year ago - there's been a lot more shown in the last few weeks (enough to build an early community wiki)
@asunavaulttv9869
@asunavaulttv9869 24 күн бұрын
I’ve been playing Conan exiles since game preview and I can say it’s really come a long way. The biggest issue with Conan I personally have is how bad the monetization is. Not only is it fomo but it’s basically pay to win. you don’t just unlock transmog armor in the battle pass/paid dlc’s. It’s actual gear that has better stats than the early base game armor. So if you just pay a little extra money you will have an advantage over someone who just plays the base game without buying anything. But to be fair it doesn’t really matter in the long run because the only way that would effect you gameplay wise is if you’re playing pvp but even then most people who play pvp know what they’re doing and just wipe noobs before they can build up. It’s the principle of the thing I guess is what I have an issue with. Anyway, to end this rant I’ll just say Conan exiles is my favorite survival game and it has a lot of great and amazing elements as well. Combat feels good and they recently added finishers. You can make some really amazing builds but you have to pay for the best looking sets. However, I believe the best part of conan is the dungeons. I’ve never played another survival game with dungeons like Conan’s. They definitely set the game apart from others.
@Tasty.Jams44
@Tasty.Jams44 22 күн бұрын
Conan exiles is a great game. My favorite survival game. Personally never had any bugs that I remember. I also didn’t play it right at launch tho.
@worlordv
@worlordv Ай бұрын
it's not just about making money. They have to run the servers which is difficult and not cheap.
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
True! I think it's not unreasonable to say it's going to be a costly venture
@jdjin291
@jdjin291 Ай бұрын
They have experience with MMO cause ppl forget about Secret World which was and still is amazing as a dark story telling themed mmo with in depth systems and their crafting was and still is different compared only to something like Minecraft where it has to be placed in specific pattern to make that item .. their puzzle solving is still the top of line to me as you had to use in game PC system to decifer hieroglyphics and russian or morse code unless you already know those things to figure out how to solve your quest. So go play Secret World for like a month then yall can see how if they do dune like they did SW and Conan then it'll be fire
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
This comment had given me a new direction of exploration
@frankendreads
@frankendreads 10 күн бұрын
Secret world legend put paid to the original, by a lot of poor and bad decisions Tbh, secret World legend wasn’t even needed to be created..
@Xrathes
@Xrathes Ай бұрын
Actually, it is Age of Conan not Conan exiles that is the biggest issue, they put out age of conan and it was buggy and incomplete then rushed out and expansion and said a big crafting and bug fix update was coming and almost done just to find out the crafting update was not even started. They drop the dev team down to 2 people and walked away. This is what Funcom does. They lie straight to the customers trying to get a money grab on the expansion then laugh and leave.
@Digital-Plunder
@Digital-Plunder Ай бұрын
When I saw the title of this video I thought," clearly has not played conan exiles". 40 seconds in can confirm. But if your expecting the game to launch in a barely playable state, lacking structure for the core gameplay and feature updates that offer more ways to buy in game cosmetics than fixes to game breaking bugs? Then no worries, thats what your likely going to get.
@user-ri4pe1nc8n
@user-ri4pe1nc8n Ай бұрын
What game developers need to stop doing is releasing games in alpha and beta. That’s where the majority of shit talking come from and gets transferred. I understand they do this to come up with funding…. But it’s literally destroying the gaming industry and developers end up getting g discouraged. Way easier for the game industry to release Microsoft xox or PlayStation games as they get funding from the console developers as well
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
Actually I agree with this point. No alpha or beta aside from some testing signed by an NDA. Let the feedback be there for a full release product
@worlordv
@worlordv Ай бұрын
Am not sure. If you look at games like dayz and star citizen they’re shaping into unbelievable experiences. To build something that good is hard. It opens a world of possibility of things that were never possible. Mostly it’s the attitude of gamers, if you're playing alpha or beta you’re contributing to an idea that either you believe or you don’t. If they're releasing alpha just for cheap test resource and they're not in it for the long haul then for sure. I just watched the vigor stream. Some of the comments in that channel are disgusting, to the point of personally being offensive to the folks presenting for literally no reason. The sense of entitlement is astonishing and just because you paid for a product that was released doesn’t buy you the right to be that disrespectful to the people that put all their hard work into it.
@user-ri4pe1nc8n
@user-ri4pe1nc8n 15 күн бұрын
@@worlordv lol star citizen. The largest scam in gaming history.
@worlordv
@worlordv 14 күн бұрын
@@user-ri4pe1nc8n yeah sure. 🙄kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edxia8eZt8zWhnk.html
@andipajeroking
@andipajeroking Ай бұрын
We should get worried about any game 😂
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
Uh... yeah that checks out lol
@jarheadjah3747
@jarheadjah3747 21 күн бұрын
Funcom is notorious for bad launch's, my first MMO ever was Anarchy Online and it was one of the most complex and fun MMO's of all time. But they botched the launch and the game never recovered, but it was an Amazing MMO.
@L6Jeremy
@L6Jeremy Ай бұрын
I dont know anything about the developer- but of course you should be worried. MMO's are very hard to make. Most MMO's fail. If you have high expectations for the game you should be worried.
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
This is a fair comment. Always enter with low expectations and you'll always be right or happily surprised!
@AwesomeGuy772
@AwesomeGuy772 24 күн бұрын
I’ll say if you try out Conan exiles now, u will be happy. However I’ve played since ps4 release and have over 10k hours. Launch was rough
@TrueEarthEntertainment
@TrueEarthEntertainment Ай бұрын
MAAAANNNNN! Iev been palying conan since beta. Through all the ups and downs but conan is much better now a days. cant wait for DUNE !
@mrmangoman7696
@mrmangoman7696 Ай бұрын
Conan exiles can be played in full without buying the battle pass or any DLC its all just cosmetic stuff
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
I mean as long as it doesn't affect power or gameplay I'm OK with whatever they would like to include
@mrmangoman7696
@mrmangoman7696 Ай бұрын
@@CaffeinatedDad yeah its just cosmetic stuff and ive played pve and pvp and no power affect at all. conan is an awesome game
@Digital-Plunder
@Digital-Plunder Ай бұрын
Not true. Siptah is paid DLC, and you don't have to look far to find items in the battle passes that offer advantages.
@wingtipsworld5909
@wingtipsworld5909 Ай бұрын
like i said in one of your prior videos , there are videos of youtubers who were invited to an event to see actual gameplay and in their videos they showed some screen shots of actual gameplay and user interface in different instances with explanations of gameplay. I even posted a link to one to correct you on your mis information on the different classes. As for your desire to play conan to get a comparison i think thats a really bad idea as they will be nothing alike. Dont do it.
@yamamoto1619
@yamamoto1619 Ай бұрын
Hi I play Conan Exiles a few times per week and a couple hours at a time, over 2000 hours into the game. The game is broken fallling through floors into water if base over it, stuck in the foundations you place when building. The new chapter 4 brought some visual enhancements that the servers being 10 years old do not handle well. The new purge system and better visuals cause servers on official to crash when they are done. There are more but this is an idea of Funcom problems. Yes I will not buy Dune Awakening till I see the reviews and comments being left, thanks for the videos.
@babblerscorner
@babblerscorner Ай бұрын
I think my favorite Conan Exiles bug was that at Siptah launch so many monsters would teleport to the 0,0,0 point on the map and just crash the server if people weren’t there to kill then. I can’t remember if this impacted vanilla but it was a nightmare on modded and took forever to get fixed. That point on the map had been a problem since early access and Siptah made it worse. Heck it’s still a problem now but not to the same extent. Funcom’s track record with bad decisions is long. Age of Conan, Secret World, Conan Exiles… they have the potential to make good things and show promise just to fall on their faces. They were at PAX East with the saddest of booths this year. How’s that going to build any hype? They can do better and by now they honestly should be doing better.
@RealGlorp
@RealGlorp Ай бұрын
This video has the equal potential to age perfectly or horribly
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
Rolling the dice right now lol
@davidlee50
@davidlee50 Ай бұрын
Why is Gaming 2024 evolving in any way?
@Yung-Custard
@Yung-Custard Ай бұрын
iv played alot of conan, like alot. Iv seen people meshing into our base at one point, we had multiple people record and submit it and not one person in the clan doing it got banned. this happens over and over and over, people quit because funcom doesnt support their community. They act so late that the damage is done and people lose bases and time , and they just move on. Seen it actually a wild amount of times. Played since launch both on PS and PC. Iv got screenshots from chinese players UI's using literal cheats, speedhacking, people opening locked vaults bypassing the codes, them taking stuff doesnt show in your logs. people hitbox dragging you. its actually insane how no one mentions this in their discord. The chinese ALWAYS cheat, because in their culture cheating isnt bad they do anything to get ahead. and anyway they always come back and blatantly cheat/ruin servers and i promise you Dune will be no different. all these people deluding themselves is hilarious.
@JeremyThanaparamy
@JeremyThanaparamy Ай бұрын
#funcom #duneawakening #lesson #slow #modified
@bigsquish1415
@bigsquish1415 Ай бұрын
I hate that its an mmo IMO Conan exiles is still going because of its RP and PVP community, Removing the ability for private servers [And along with mods] Rally pops my bubble for this game as Im sure MANY of others feel the same.
@user-zw9bl9lu4u
@user-zw9bl9lu4u 9 күн бұрын
I hope is single player to
@aristotle1960
@aristotle1960 23 күн бұрын
I hope they constantly deal with game breaking glitches. Because in conan they didn’t patch under meshing for years, and what’s crazier is that when something got patched the patch itself brought new gamebreaking glitches, many times wannabe alpha clans would abuse many of these said glitches. It was very interesting though because our clan would still win, during covid coincidently I met and became part of an undefeated clan in my first conan server and as I learned from them and went to war all day everyday as a clan with them I learned that they were undefeated for a reason and that reason is that the clan worked as a machine with hierarchy of skill and all the original members were trained in the basics of combat by the leader of the clan who was said to be able to 1 vs 10, we could even raid under mesh bases because two of our members who were the extreme farmers of the group had to learn how to go inside meshes to counter all would be abusers of under meshing, so even if dune awakening has problems with glitches and abusers of glitches my clan is coming back far stronger than ever with all our experience from conan and every other game we played since covid and before that. If anyone has problems against glitch abusers in dune just get yourself a clan who works as a machine with hierarchy of skill and follow the hierarchy of skill or if not your clan will always have infighting about what should be done. And any of you who don’t know how high the stakes are in a funcom survival game I promise the stakes will be around 10 times higher than in conan, if you don’t have a clan or alliance you will never be able to win against alpha clans if you are average joes. Those who are not prepared or go into servers solo will be in for a rude awakening😈💀 lucky for you dune will probably have personal servers where the stakes are extremely low and it’s not fun at all, all you could do there is practice against brain dead npcs and build creatively without resources if you want, but where the true glory will be had is in official pvp servers the cream of the crop experience will be on the pvp servers.
@frankendreads
@frankendreads 10 күн бұрын
Surprised they haven’t died yet… They have a bad record p, in regards to development, even though they were one of the earliest mmo based developer For me, the worst experience was with secret world legends a major downgrade of the original secret world Their very poor servers, server code and management Poor response to any bugs, Lack of content One of the first to adopt the modern form of monetisation
@laoch5658
@laoch5658 Ай бұрын
you do know they made anarchy online so i think they know what they are doing..i know zoomers probably dont know what that game is and just think they made conan exiles. do more research zoomer
@CaffeinatedDad
@CaffeinatedDad Ай бұрын
Ooo this is fun, first time I was called a zoomer!
@Sunderbrass
@Sunderbrass 23 күн бұрын
Does anyone that was involved in the creation of Anarchy Online still work at Funcom? While I played it back in the day when it came out, and thought it was incredible, that was over 20 years ago. Funcom isn't those same people anymore.
@greenhelllive9629
@greenhelllive9629 18 күн бұрын
Videogames in capitalist societies will always need to make profit and thus always will be limited to exactly what makes the investers think will make money. it is a shame. you can see that for example in the fact that most of the really cool games come from the ideas of modders that work outside of profit logic. it is a strong argument against those, who believe good ideas only happen in competition. and even competition ist just another way of cooperation. so what am i tying to say? :D abolish capitalism and lets create a democratic, new form of economy, which functions within the limits of planetary and human boundaries while also not producing obscene wealth on the one side and extreme poverty on the other side. In the end this will also get you better video games. Because an economy based on human needs - and not based on the need to make profit - is possible :)
@qdlaty23
@qdlaty23 Ай бұрын
Saying with confidence that the game will be better is childishly naive. I love your content man, but you have to be realistic.
@Pedigru
@Pedigru Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but you didn't do any homework. You are under the strange impression that Age of Conan was only bad at launch. No. It has problems for years. Anarchy Online...was damn near unplayable at launch and again took many years of development to get it to where it is now. Secret World didn't have too bad of a launch but the developers decided to turn it into a free to play model and actually gutted the game so significantly they released a "new" version (SWL) of it under the F2P model and it's nothing like the original game. Funcom doesn't have a clear...direction with their games. Conan Exiles is a good example of this. And yes...when a game is released the developers tend to have a idea for their game going forwards. And yes, that idea can...and does (literally always) change. But that change...is often because the original development team built a game and were assigned to work on another game. And new developers are brought in to "maintain" the previous game. And they have a new idea or new direction for "their" game. And for some reason...every single time this happens (I'm not referencing only funcom here) none of the new developers ever speak to the old developers or whomever to get any level of a idea on what direction the game was originally going toward. The first couple of minutes of this video suggests....simply...the longer a game exists the better it is. Well...duh. But using this logic, which is the foundation of your video, Dune Awakening...will have a terrible launch...but be better in four or more years. Again...duh.
@user-zk7ew8pv8j
@user-zk7ew8pv8j 19 күн бұрын
I'm sure it will be an overpriced buggy piece of shit like all the others
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