Why Racing Drivers WORK TOGETHER

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@joshmoment42 8 ай бұрын

Love the coverage of other motorsports that arent f1, opening up the minds of the motorsport community to other racing is always good

@xoriatmike6857 8 ай бұрын

Racing in general is good, shopping carts or Formula 1. Tractor im in, truck im in no matter what its cool!

@surkey5055 8 ай бұрын

@@xoriatmike6857I'll even take a couple of Model T's.

@vaudevillian7 7 ай бұрын

Same, I grew up with F1 but it’s now probably my least favourite series relatively speaking, there’s so much out there

@DjDolHaus86 8 ай бұрын

Touring car drivers never seemed to get the hang of bump drafting, they tended to wait until the breaking zone to put it into action

@minenhledlamini334 7 ай бұрын

Ah the good old bump and run

@Darlexis 6 ай бұрын

It’s the true “push to pass”

@CYMotorsport 8 ай бұрын

Loving the varied topics Scott! I’ve long been struggling to find a coherent way to explain dumping and its legality to my non F1 friends. If you for some reason need a new entry into this series adjacent to this & a bit of a darker more nuanced spin off, please beat me to the punch id love to see a bigger brain tackle that

@milol.akkaraprud8681 8 ай бұрын

You’re a legend, been loving your content for years ❤

@theemperor8553 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely love your content! Hoping to see more videos soon :)

@ChrisBl33p 8 ай бұрын

6:51 due to the prevalence of tandem bump drafting, in 2011, NASCAR made some changes to the front end of the NASCAR Cup Series cars (then in the 5th generation of vehicle) to increase the temperature rise of the water, forcing cars to back off to cool down several degrees. I think the changes were to the size of the duct leading to the radiator, going down in size. Joey Logano is quite infamous for his AGGRESSIVE pushes at Super Speedway races, as he had caused a few incidents in the past, but he is very good at the style, having won the Daytona 500 a few years ago.

@danieltatar7575 8 ай бұрын

It's funny how this informational video about motorracing can also be used as a promotion for trains as a form of transport.

@patmanbnl 8 ай бұрын

If you want to see this to the extreme check out Nascar tandem drafting from around 2009-2011.

@tomterrific6085 8 ай бұрын

Drafting on steroids

@elmurcis1 8 ай бұрын

That was 1st thing got in mind after seeing start of video!

@limbeboy7 8 ай бұрын

2008 - 2009 was the best Drafting ever at Daytona b4 the repave and Talladega before its repave in 08. Drivers were bouncing around so much in the corners that they had to be smart when to push

@blazi2293 8 ай бұрын

Damn I read drifting instead of drafting and thought "wow this is rad"

@aaronmachado13 8 ай бұрын

Something to remember too is that in nascar, some cars are better pushers than leaders. Some people struggle with their car getting too loose when leading the pack whereas someone else could be getting tight . Super speedway racing is a 180mph chess match oh processing where you can develop a run to pass the lane next to you, managing risk to save your equipment for the end and knowing where your cars setup is after hours of racing.

@eabradley1108 7 ай бұрын

lol people need to stop comparing everything to chess

@groundedgaming 8 ай бұрын

Bumpdrafting! Quite obvious why it doesn't happen in Formula 1, no? Those front wings are so fragile.

@eliascregard396 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but also the fact that the front wing is mutch lower than on for example the F3 car shown in the video.

@HxTurtle 8 ай бұрын

yes and no. just as we've also learned from this video, it's not necessary to make physical contact in other to profit from this. the car in from can go faster by not being held back by the same low pressure zone behind because the following car changes a lot in terms of aerodynamics (yes, affecting the leading car.) fragility plays a reason but Formula One cars aren't spec cars, so they just don't behave the same. that's why the only reasonable attempt to this can be made by team mates which is what we've seen in the past during qualifying. it's also worth noticing that they drive on circuits that frequently involve either heavy breaking or high speed turns; in both cases, the loss in downforce is detrimental.

@eliascregard396 8 ай бұрын

@@HxTurtle I think you are confusing bumpdrafting with normal drafting

@HxTurtle 8 ай бұрын

@@eliascregard396 no, I don't think so. normal drafting only helps the guy behind and has an effect of several car lengths. bump drafting helps the guy in front as well and requires them to be really close normal drafting is to reduce the gap on a straight and ultimately ends in an overtake move (or attempt.) whereas for bump drafting, this isn't the actual intend. it's to gain an combined advantage (the video explained it quite well where he said, "think about the same frontal area, but twice or even more the engine power.") what I wanna add to this, as it wasn't too prominent in this video, is that physical contact isn't required for this effect to kick in. hence, "bump drafting" (where the guy in front also gets an advantage) is theoretically possible in Formula One as well. (yes, the example I pointed out, that it was trialed several times in qualifying [cf., Ferrari at Monza] is a poor one. yes, the beneficiary car was behind in this case, which isn't enough to deem it as regular drafting, but the gap was too large for the leading car to gain an advantage so yes; that indeed doesn't count.])

@Staggs2200 8 ай бұрын

The bump drafting in mx-5 cup is a lot of fun to watch too

@aiwash2766 8 ай бұрын

Nascar cars bump drafting, perfectly normal, seeing any open wheel car bump drafting, now that’s something you don’t see everyday

@milol.akkaraprud8681 8 ай бұрын

We see some drivers do bump drafting in F1 usually don’t we ☠️😂

@kdon116 8 ай бұрын

It’s interesting to see that bump drafting/Tandem drafting is possible in single seater cars. I figured the strategy was only possible in NASCAR

@JMFritz08 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for these vidoes Scott, they've really helped my driving game! Cheers🍻

@Vandrefalk456 8 ай бұрын

Please say you’ll do the 25 hours of spa funcup race with Overdrive, it would make for some pretty entertaining content.

@Lucason2772 8 ай бұрын

Surely a vid on why SVG is so good as he just won Bathurst again

@joshuapowers4623 7 ай бұрын

Bumb drafting actually isn't illegal in NASCAR, locking bumpers is. In 2010 and for several years after they discovered they could stay connected for the entire lap or two, then swap positions as the push car overheated to continue on pushing. The racing was basically 20 groups of 2 car tandems driving to the front then falling back during the switch & driving back to rhe front. The 2011 Daytona 500 is a great example of this.

@funilookin 8 ай бұрын

Formula one has the most delicate cars. I don’t think bump drafting is an option for them😂

@benfulford3943 8 ай бұрын

It feels like there's an overdrive video in here somewhere! Would be great to see you guys doing this or giving it a go in a race

@Tattooie_Yt_007 7 ай бұрын

Great information for drafting and understanding slipstreams. 👍

@jimgoodwin6440 8 ай бұрын

Bump drafting in Spec Miata is systemic.

@limbeboy7 8 ай бұрын

Missed Opportunity to talk about the 2007 Daytona 500 finish. Harvick used "side-draft" to win.

@crusherbmx 8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't have been terribly disappointed if he didn't put in that Talledega Nights reference.

@volt_8339 7 ай бұрын

i love going thru these vids and noticing my local tracks saw atlanta motorsports park karting circuit in there and a road atlanta clip

@nascarnational 8 ай бұрын

really love the nascar inclusion in these videos! as a lifelong fan, and as someone that's driven those things on the sim the past 3 years, i can tell you it can be beneficial but one wrong misjudgement and the entire field dies. i've done it before and it's not fun to set off 😓 seeing it in open-wheel is both really cool and definitely more sketchy. it would be really nice to see someone try it carefully in f1 sometime simply for the ridiculous nature & feasibility but i don't think toto wolff or red bull would be happy cashing in checks for damage 🤭

@orangensaft0 8 ай бұрын

7:25 lol the game says "you deserve that win"

@davidpomerantz 8 ай бұрын

"He's just giving him a little bump grip"

@CriticoolHit 8 ай бұрын

I love these educational videos man.

@kennethnielsen3864 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@Chuck_leclerc 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic in detailed description

@tristanwegner 7 ай бұрын

There are calculatings, that with autonomous cars, they could form these draft trains an highways to save fuel.

@bertram-raven 8 ай бұрын

Please do a video on what blue flags actually mean in motorsport from Karting upwards and why F1 is different (and prissy) about them. I am tired of sim racers who think a blue flag is a passport to pass because they only watch F1.

@cjjohns4899 8 ай бұрын

Rubbin is racing feller 😂

@Tacoplane91 8 ай бұрын

Bro is just talking bout shake and bake

@randomdude8877 8 ай бұрын

Could you make a video about Lance Strolls driving style? In his onboards it is apparent that he drives different compared to all the other drivers. Very choppy steering inputs, and i wonder if it is fast? I drive like that in my sims...... and i'm not really fast with it... lol

@emilecarpentier 8 ай бұрын

Wow I didn't expect to see a clip from the KCR track in Québec at 4:04

@MarkPentler 8 ай бұрын

Bumping a car too fast before a corner braking zone seems like a legit tactic at NASCAR road courses.

@Carlife0830 7 ай бұрын

Interesting. I didn't know the low pressure air from the back sucks the car back creating drag.

@bbbenj 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting strategy 😊

@jimomertz 8 ай бұрын

Bump drafting is not only faster, but it’s fun as well! 🙂

@HxTurtle 8 ай бұрын

you video ending is always quite the fun moment 😂

@Aspen-nf3td 8 ай бұрын

This is quite crazy, because I saw this only being done in games and I thought no one would do this in real life.

@kidomark3819 7 ай бұрын

Any advice on visibility during this? Especially on starts behind several cars in line

@clangmotorsports2697 8 ай бұрын

3:54 that’s me from a long time ago lol

@thirdguy4589 8 ай бұрын

How does betterhelp still exisit after all the scandals. Crazy.

@botiboga2060 8 ай бұрын

What happened?

@slartibartfast2649 8 ай бұрын

F1 drivers generally don't like following too closely because it overheats their tyres and engines.

@user-kf5mg1xl9w 8 ай бұрын

it applies fot every racing category, v8 supercars for example also complain about over heating

@sharkk127 8 ай бұрын

I will say for nascar you can actually still bump draft, just you can't lock bumpers

@AndyFromBeaverton 8 ай бұрын

Carlos, "YOU ARE STEALING MY TRICK!".

@mbgmadbull1141 8 ай бұрын

Bump drafting my beloved. As a NASCAR enthusiast it's a common sight and it's beautiful

@TechCer 8 ай бұрын

The miata cam was just cute lol

@Hole_Motorsports 8 ай бұрын

Spec Miata is all about the bump draft!

@felmora 8 ай бұрын

Bump Bump Bump!

@United_Wings 8 ай бұрын

1st thumbnail was better ❤

@amirhosseintaheri8515 8 ай бұрын

I understand this could be too much to ask, however, can you give an explaination on what's happening with Lance Stroll (same as the one for Sergio Perez)?

@Lukeywoodsey 8 ай бұрын

Shake and bake baby!

@Hole_Motorsports 8 ай бұрын

Scott, great video but missing spec miata content!

@xxxYYZxxx 7 ай бұрын

Drafting is why you don't see outsiders racing on ovals in the Cup Series in NASCAR. A Cup race is no place to learn how to draft with these cars. In fact, unsafe drivers would get intentionally dumped into the wall by Cup regulars.

@PhilippSeeger 8 ай бұрын

As a cyclist I'm also well aware of reducing drag of the cyclist in front of you while getting a tow yourself.

@yeSplus2 8 ай бұрын

Shake n Bake!

@MrKelsomatic 8 ай бұрын

Great video but the graphic at 0:48 has to be one of the worst diagrams of slipstream I’ve ever seen 💀 I’m very familiar with the concept but it took me like 5 seconds to understand that’s what it was trying to show

@ThaDutchDK1989 8 ай бұрын

3:50 all rental karts with no speed. So you don’t see it in racing kart championships..kz etc

@backupdancer3720 8 ай бұрын

SHAKE N BAKE

@Mercman1010 8 ай бұрын

When you are on a swing and want to go higher you ask for a push. Just seems second nature

@DrCrunkMusic 8 ай бұрын

Bump drafting baybeh

@midniteauthor 7 ай бұрын

Seeing BetterHelp popping up in more and more videos. Thought we were all aware of how bad they are.

@marcelr.9035 8 ай бұрын

Is bump drafting what Max and Daniel did in Baku?

@Driver61 8 ай бұрын

Something like that 😂

@ethanholland8006 7 ай бұрын

If anyone here has Iracing try the Nascar legends cars of the Arca cars

@independentmind1977 8 ай бұрын

Very cool. This is why you see us road cyclists doing lead outs to sprints at the end of races or see opponent teams working together in the peloton. The same principle works in the water as-well in mass water starts in triathlon or long range swimming. The wattage or energy used is really decreased.

@basti329 8 ай бұрын

Nascars drafting is amazing to see. Its so much more than driving in a circle. Its chess all the way to the end :D

@manostororosso2364 7 ай бұрын

Αnd I thought we did that only on GRAN TURISMO...

@ondrejkratochvil4589 8 ай бұрын

atm the IMSA MX-5 races are just one big bump fest :)

@highseasmarinediaz493 8 ай бұрын

Brad keslouski is famous for bump drafting way too hard.

@jamesbarisitz4794 8 ай бұрын

I can't count the number of first place finishes made by second place cars in oval track races where the drafting car performs an intentional Pitt maneuver on the leaders left rear bumper. That's not racing, that's cheating.

@dada_dittrich 7 ай бұрын

interesting video

@ThrowingItAway 8 ай бұрын

honestly this is just another example of racing drivers trying to go as fast as possible with little regard for safety and I love it. Shake and bake

@tHebUm18 8 ай бұрын

Had saw the clip of Lando spinning Max before but it's always funny.

@501nenah 7 ай бұрын

We even do this in Simracing. When racing on Nordschleife we use bump drafting whenever one of my teammates and me are close enough. But mostly in oval races as you can see here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldiZnrmg2du2cnk.html

@sithyarael6807 8 ай бұрын

This is drafting. It used to work in NASCAR till all the cars are just cookie cutters and identical to all other cars. Works better on short track than the two long ones Daytona and Talladega. Plus in NASCAR they bump each other around the track. And when doing it they don't break like F1/Indy cars do when they touch. Rusty Wallace said the same when he retired from NASCAR and was in a cup car with an Indy driver I forget his name. Rusty said we do 200mph around a track. Indy guy goes well we do 220 around the track. Rusty said well we bumping the hell out of each other at that speed. Indy guy goes oh we touch we crash/break. Although I haven't watched NASCAR since the Faux Noose Hoax. I had been slowing down watching it and that was almost the last straw. Then NASCAR had everyone bowing down to Bubba "Smollett" Wallace and kissing his feet thinking he was oppressed. Yet his White daddy was top of a bank the entire time he grew up thus he was never oppressed just a spoiled brat.

@bonehead2426 8 ай бұрын

2nd vid asking for a vid on rohrl

@clarkrw1 8 ай бұрын

🦅 ** Free Bird ** Bump draft MF’er 🦅

@YHK_YT 7 ай бұрын

Betterhelp?????

@window469wow3 8 ай бұрын

Hii

@jakkor1106 7 ай бұрын

RUBBING IS RACING!!!!

@nilsnorman1889 8 ай бұрын

Slipstreem?

@joeyj1617 8 ай бұрын

We call it bump drafting.

@nilsnorman1889 8 ай бұрын

@@joeyj1617 oh, cool

@slartibartfast2649 8 ай бұрын

@@joeyj1617 bump drafting is when you actually touch, whereas slipstreaming is just making use of the low pressure wake behind a car to increase speed.

@joeyj1617 8 ай бұрын

@@slartibartfast2649 yeah I know lol. In the video he is describing bump drafting and not slip streaming.

@logicmaster756 8 ай бұрын

WELL U DID PUSH UR SELF TO A BARRIER AND THEN QUALIFIED SECOND AHMM Russell PLZ

@TStizzle19 8 ай бұрын

Can you stop promoting better help already? They literally sell customer data to facebook lmfao

@floijd 8 ай бұрын

Of course you would crash into the car in front of you, out of sheer boredom, when driving in a circle for nine millions laps. Then call it "strategy" - very American 😅

@user-kf5mg1xl9w 8 ай бұрын

Oval racing is funnier tham it seems, strategies, crashes, even driving skills is really awesome to drive in oval and rovals, i was the kind of guy who thought it was boring though is really fun and easy to do however being fast takes time as any other category

@jeremythurman5261 7 ай бұрын

Oval racing is extremely precise, requires 100% focus all the time, bad brakes, a 3500 lb car that has substantial oversteer, high horsepower/low downforce, and learning “side force.” In fact, no former formula 1 driver has won an oval race in the modern era (25-30 years) despite 500+ combined starts. Oval champions in Indycar like Franchitti and Hornish also were pretty bad. Statistically speaking, a driver should be able to “luck” into a win with a 1/3 of that number. The 1.5 milers are extremely difficult especially when a driver masters the art of running the wall.