Gosh Darn Roll Model. I like that better.

When Goku was bon Raditz was already 13 or 14 years old. When Goku met Raditz for the first time Goku was 22 and Raditz was 35 to 36 years old. If going off level of power increase lets talk reality. From the time Goku defeated Raditz to when Goku defeated Buu that was around 13 to 14 years later. By the time Goku was the age of his older brother Goku defeated Buu. Raditz does not have potential and he was absolutely weak. Hell when Goku got sent into the past during Dragon Ball it stated that those Saiyan fighters were average fighting levels and they were 1500 and 1700 and that was a normal weak Saiyan fighter power level according to Kami. So yes Raditz was in fact a weak fighter. Also the Sayba Men were in fact 1500 power level and Napa straight up admitted that Raditz was a weak Saiyan and the only reason he was allowed to live was because he was among the last Saiyans to be alive and so to keep his race alive he stomached having to have him still alive.

@@jordancambridge4106 good explanation and from the material.

Imagine if he went SSJ3 😮

lol 😂 imagine

He'd wrap his hair like his taill

Lol play super Dragonball heros and you can see it

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Grew up on a planet with a higher gravity than earth 20x if I remember right. Did a lot more fighting as well compared to Goku I would imagine as like other of their kind the were sent to take over planets and taking over a single inhabited planet is probably more fighting than Goku did his entire life.

Did u even watch the video?

With out a doubt lol

@@GraveUypo na, goku from birth actually had really low power level, the lowest of the saiyan, raditz is considered an elite saiyan, it makes sense

Not quite. There was something else I showed.

@@SaiyanScholaryou a writer for dragon ball or this is just your imagination.

@@SaiyanScholar while a agree Raditz wasn’t a weakling I don’t think he had more potential than Goku. I lean more with this comment. He was doing more intense battles with Sayian way strong than himself. This let him grow a lot in his power. Goku wasn’t that far behind him with the battles he fought on earth. I know he was multiple hundreds behind but Goku didn’t have Vegeta and Nappa around to constantly get into battles with whole civilizations. I agree Raditz had great potential but I think Goku would have far surpassed him if he was in the same position. Maybe they have the same potential at most in my opinion. Either way this stuff is fun to talk about.

​@@darrenedwarddolhanty6814 Makes sense.

Goku waa also just younger

Maybe it wouldn’t grow. 🤷🏾‍♂️

That part 😎👍🏾 makes more sense to me

What would make you think that ? From the information given in both the manga and the anime we can assume raditz was used to using his oozaru form (he places great emphasis on the tail and the sayian transformation, even going so far as to tell Goku his "true" power is gone without his tail.

@@wavelordcelliano1746 I meant that Radditz was used to being at his maximum normal form to the point he didn't have to stop and gather more power from anything else. The Oozaru form was his crutch against other fighters that were stronger by default. The 1500 was the best without needing to transform and the tail did allow for better power like having additional adrenal glands that still had to be activated.

@@MrTimelord77 I'm saying your analysis is HEADCANON. we have no way of knowing how raditz prepared to fight other than given information. The other sayians call him weak (this is relative as raditz is MID CLASS) and we can see that raditz will AVOID a fight if he seems it unworthy of his time (his initial skirmish with piccolo he could've easily killed him and choose not to, even after piccolo had attacked him) we can only infer than raditz was reliant on his oozaru form as he makes SEVERAL mentions to this form when he first meets Goku. He is even very upset that Goku has lost his tail. We can infer that raditz hasn't been in many life or death battles which would cause him to gain a zenkai boost due to several things. Raditz was assigned to a MID CLASS group that included nappa. With other strong fighters I doubt raditz or the sayians would run into much trouble. That being said raditz was already far above your average sayians (low class ranging from 300-700 , mid class 1k-rougly 7k (being nappa as the strongest mid class), and elites being higher (with vegeta being known as a super elite)

@@MrTimelord77 also his tail had nothing to do with his power. As far as mid class warriors go raditz didn't train his tail and allowed it to be a weakness ultimately resulting in his death.

@@wavelordcelliano1746 Did you forget how much stronger Goku was when he had his tail. The Wiki says there are important organs in the tail that grant more power. Radditz may have been weak, but he didn't need to gather energy all the time. Goku didn't even appear to be able to fly without Nimbus and yet Radditz flew from his ship all the way to Kame Island and didn't break a sweat. Radditz had plenty of potential as a whole, but Vegeta and Nappa didn't want competition and used fear to keep their ally weak. Radditz was able to handle Goku and Piccolo after seeing some of their power, creating deadly hubris.

Good god what would have happened with the hair if Raditz *actually* got SSJ3?!

​@@zachalou3073Longer hair than he already has in base. Imagine a rapunzel Super Saiyan. That would be Raditz in SSJ3.

But would Raditz hair stand straight up as super Saiyan? Would that make him his hair like 5 feet tall?

The thing is that Goku trained with a huge master with ancient techniques with the discipline of another big masters, while saiyan training is very basic if any at all

@steffanofumo He could have defeated Nappa, but vegeta no Unless he trained like Goku, or got many zenkais Even so Vegeta was more refine in battle, then Radizt pure brute strength.

@@AgnesBooth-zu7twfacts

@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw I did say same training has Goku, so that’s snake way plus king Kai assuming he actually did the training he should easily match if not surpass Vegeta’s 20k in that 1 year timeframe.

Actually a very interesting point

Thats actually a good point he would rather lead his people, but be under freiza thumb, then all the saiyans be free and not be the king

They woulda died anyway

I can agree... The leader doesn't always need to be the strongest, just the most strategic. The best strategy here would have been to pretend to go along the way they have been, but secretly training all the saiyans to become stronger while hiding their power level from everyone. Then when you have them all powered to the same level as Freeza... hit him hard and relentlessly with no remorse or holding back. Thousands of saiyans at Freeza power level... game over.

That's the defato reason why Goku was able to become stronger than any other Saiyan before him, Earth culture nurtured him allowing him to reach is full potential, while Saiyan culture is all about tearing each other down. Goku was taught to always be better, to uplift others and in turn he himself was uplifted. Through good deeds Goku gained the favor of martial arts masters, gods and scientists. Because of those connections, Goku got special techniques, gravity chambers, sensu beans and ressurection. There are plenty of Saiyans with more potential than Goku, but they are usually dead before they become anything. Gods are basically begging to teach Goku, while Saiyans are lucky they aren't sent to HFIL.

In one of the video games, Raditz is Princess Snake's boyfriend when Goku shows up, lol.

Toriyama initially wanted to kill Vegeta off too. But he became too popular.

Goku has risen far far above any Sayain that has ever existed. I'd love to see them return too but they'd need to train so so much to even be a blip on the radar for Goku and Vegeta now. The earthlings Z-fighters would eclipse them now too. But I've always wanted to see them return to see the potential of what Sayains are capable of.

Ahem, Kefla. A fusion of a regular universe 6 Saiyan and the LSSJ of universe 6

Plus he didn't have 5 years of peacetime. While Goku was doing casual training and relaxing with his family, Raditz was still working out in space.

I don't like the ss cell, explanation that you require to at peace to growth That makes no sense. Plus we have the zenkais too.

Blatant disinformation, he was ~5 years old. Saiyans didn’t train, and king Kai said that training with him would equate to thousands of years of training on earth, not because of the gravity (would make no sense at all) but because it is a higher state of reality.

@@gbdpro9350Sayians didn’t train in the same way as earthlings or with mentors. But they trained. They were always fighting. It wasn’t as effective but still was training.

If you want to add logic to the mix you are a fool....it was lazy writing nothing else....if Zenkai boost works like in DBZ in DB....Goku could be around 1500 already in DB saga....

I know right raditz gets no love still and I think that's crazy

they should revive raditz to help em in defeating black freiza

With plot armor everybody can be one of the strongest. Raditz was unlucky.

I’ve always hoped to see Raditz make some kind of return

Goku should have revive his brother instead of Frieza.​@@Xadov

​@@power279then what? Have a city level saiyan fight against universal to multiversal opponents?

Same man not like they couldnt ass pull him back into the series

@@kanewayne4972 they still could 🤞🏿

Not to the same degree, but he did learned to cut off his tail if necessary.

Considering how classist and proud Vegeta was, I bet they refused to teach him.

@@redrain860i mean technically his scouter was on so they probably heard him saying that in battle and were like we’re not gonna let it happen to us

Masako X said that and it was based on nothing. Literally no official source ever said that.

😂

And now Raditz is irrelevant because the hurdle has been overcome

Earth would be doomed

Long-haired goku

Raditz would have destroyed the earth as he was already a soldier doing that before planet vegeta was destroyed. Only if he lost his memory and was found by grandpa gohan would it be okay. Still then, there's no knowing for sure if he'd be as pure at heart as goku.

Actually if he was told that he was being sent to protect them from freezer and its forces and to survive and not conquer he would pretty much do the same thing that Goku did but without the head injury and technically hippie 50 times stronger than Goku when he first met Goku which means that is power level would be basically 20,800 battle power exactly 50 times higher than Goku actually making him the strongest Saiyan at that point because there are no zenkai he would receive because no one would have been strong enough to cause him that instead of getting as much as Goku he would have gotten four times less and Goku basically got 208 time Stronger by the time Raditz showed up which means Radix would have only increased his power to 52 times higher but that would have been more than enough thank you power level was between 400 and 900 as a child just imagine if Nappa and Vegeta increase the power by 52 because the same thing would have happened as long as they did the same training as Goku did and did not destroy the Earth or conqueror that is. Supposedly Napa's power level is three different ones actually when he fought the Z Fighters 4,000 6,000 8,000 now most likely 8000 was his full power so going with that has power level would have been 416,000 close enough to frieza's power level the if you use a full power Kamehameha which is 5 times stronger than your current power level when charging it if is fully charged he could have defeated first form Frieza and did the same thing to third form for if he turned into a great ape. Now in the original father of Goku movie will you find out Vegeta's power level as a kid is 14,000 time that by 52 and that would be 728,000 where is gallic gun or Kamehameha he could easily kill Frieza first form and if he transformed into a great ape he could kill him all the way up to the final form Frieza because if he goes up to 50% full power Vegito still dead. Unless they did almost a Year's worth of training before facing Frieza after the Raditz showed up after that yeah they might actually be able to kill him even in his full power.

Young Grandpa Gohan, good lord a hedgehog baby boy.

Watch that episode again, Raditz was brutalizing Goku

Probably because if Saiyan's fought eachother it would have to be to the death. N also once they were under friezas rule they placed certain laws on Saiyan's to prevent them from doing so. Which would make sense.

Raditz had to go to. Cause he ain’t have no purpose once you decided to create Vegeta

& its in a saiyans nature to talk ish regardless, they talked about Bardock & im sure he would fade King Vegeta or any other saiyan. He got beat by a super nova & was considered "low class" but the king got one shotted by an upper cut

I believe nappa was around 5500-6500 right?

Nappa could l double his strength to 8000 Even after fighting the Z warriors, Nappa hold his own to a base goku of 8000.

Nappa got stronger during the saiyan saga

​@@justinstewart-ek9tl 7500