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Who else misses Team Dark's interactions and dynamics?😭

I always kind of thought if Rouge had a backstory, it would involve losing both her parents and lifestyle at an early age, taking up thievery just to keep herself fed. Becoming so good theft and seeing a lot of the criminal underworld, her turning into a manipulative jewel thief would have been very understandable.

"Seeing Shadow throw it all away for the person he loved and saving the entire world in the process tore down all those walls and emotional defenses for her" Ok dude, I see what you did there. Very clever. Also, that point that you made about Rouge not telling Shadow about what he did in Sonic Adventure 2 during the events of Sonic Heroes because she had seen him go on that world ending rampage is honestly something I never really thought of before. I always found it frustrating as to why she, Sonic and the others didn't tell him, but not telling him, knowing what he is capable of kind of makes sense. At the same time though, you wonder, how else could they could've gone about telling him (other than the way they did in Shadow's game). Great video btw.

I think Rouge is the only team dark member in IDW written well. Omega is constantly bring written out of the story and is only used for joke lines Shadow is constantly moody and refuses to cooperate with anyone But like Rouge is the only one shown to still care and worry about her teammates whenever they're harmed.

I assumed the game devs named her Rouge (despite not being red) is because of Shadow. Shadow and Rouge are make up puns.

Rouge in Sonic Adventure 2: I realized that real treasures are not jewelry and emeralds, but friends. Rouge the next day: Where are the jewels? Where are the emeralds?

4:32 "There's undeniably a lot of sexual tension between Rouge and Knuckles. A flirty rivalry. Staring into each other's eyes. Some casual strangling." 😂😂😂

*Always wanted to know her backstory though.* Never understood why Sega never wanted to explore that in any media form.

I just want the characters to be treated like actual characters rather than mascots along the line of tony the tiger

When I heard you say " Seeing Shadow throw it all away" I thought you were having that be reference speach, because "Throw it all away," is the name of the theme song that was written for Shadow in Sonic Adventure 2.

If knuckles gets his own spin-off game id love for Rouge to become a side character/rival for him again. Having Knuckles out on some treasure hunt and finding out Rouge is on the same hunt driving him into a competition with her to reach the treasure first.

Sometimes it takes superficial appeal to reel 'em in to pay attention to the character depth beneath the surface. Weird that they did it with an anthropomorphic bat, but I can appreciate the hustle. And I mean, she's hot so like-

We can thank her and Amy for Shadow deciding to forgo his violence.

Her concept art kinda looks like an emo Amy, huh.

5:45 "despite that femme fatale wall she puts up in front of the world she's actually a deeply caring individual" Love her & Emma Frost so much for very similar reasons all around, and i relate so much to them omg - RaSz

I've been waiting for this. Rouge is my second favorite character, just behind knuckles, and I am glad that people are realizing she has a real and interesting character other then just bat tits. Love her.

In sonic prime, Rouge appears to stick on sonic's group it may little bit concerned because it makes sense that sonic x had her screentime itself especially on sonic's group she's in, that's where she had involved with the heroes during serious situation, that's why Team dark felt bit apart, especially dynamic with shadow and Rouge in separate ways on their own, i don't think if that simple enough to make this decision by ian Flynn said that team dark are no longer friends which is absolute lie because sega never had confirm the truth. That's why Rouge is the reason teams up with shadow and Omega in sonic heroes. Way back in sonic Adventure 2, she had no backstory to begin with if i wonder her origin story might be interesting as a character, hopefully something her own game to discover. Hopefully sega and sonic team set team dark to return and give them respect for the franchise 🙏

Rouge, Shadow and Omega are all mentioned in the Fast friends Forever campaign, I consider that a good sign.

I'll say it again Rouge is the *REAL* and *TRUE* leader of Team Dark. Shadow was only made leader due to Sonic being leader of Team Sonic and his rivalry with Sonic. Shadow himself unlike Sonic lacks charisma, people skills, and has displayed no traits that a leader would have. Shadow isn't a bad character but he his far from ever being a leader.

Very interesting video. I have wondered how she'd be a secret agent since G.U.N. hasn't been mentioned in years, and I think how she is in Prime is really close.

I couldn't agree more with your analysis of her character here. Especially when you described her as the mouth of Team Dark with Shadow and Omega being her muscle giving her the confidence to push around anyone she wanted. That group dynamic was peak. Team Dark has some of the best group dynamics in the franchise and it needs to come back, especially since it shows that the franchise can tell meaningful stories without Sonic being there. I'd IMMEDIATELY buy a Team Dark spinoff game. I'd say that Heroes and 06 handled her character best, but that's actually a positive side effect of her character development between SA2, Heroes, and 06 being so strong.

Throw it all away line in script With the throw it all away screencap You crushed that

Something sad is that a lot of people sexualize her but rouge is more than that. She’s an interesting and incredible character who has a great personality and is strong. Shes great at getting what she wants to. It’s really sad that people only see her as a tool. Same with other female sonic characters sadly

I hope the rummers are true, and she comes in the Knuckles series, that way we're introduced to her character, and it can introduce to other characters in the film I have always seen it as GUN hiring Rouge in SA2, and doesn't work for GUN till 06, this is because of the line "don't forget my jewel" and GUN wasn't mentioned in SH

This doesn’t explain why Rouge won’t let Shadow watch Purple.

I want to see rouge in sonic movie 3 more then ever and I support your channel!

This video proves that Rouge has to appear in the third sonic movie…

Rouge is bad ass in SA2 and her controls are flawless

So happy to see a rouge video! She’s one of my to favourite sonic characters. Such an interesting character, cheeky/cunning with her own selfish goals but later cares for the people she see’s as close to her. She’s just not the same to me in the games as she used to be during the adventure/dark era.

I was right to be hyped this was a very very good video.

Rouge is my favorite sonic girl, and seeing this video helped me better understand that she's more than meets the eye.

"Even if the world turns against you, know that I'll always be by your side. Remember that..." I love her so much, and she's kept that promise even as Modern Shadow treats her like garbage. For both their sakes, i need Shadow to be nice to her again.

The DBZ avatar makes me remember seeing 500 dragon ball ads showing the Vegeta and Goku fight on 4 kids while getting up at 6 am on Sunday to watch SonicX. Loved the video, Rouge is definitely an untapped potential character. IMO Big also falls into this category. Big shares a lot of Sonic's ideology, he's just slower. He loves travelling the world with his friends, and he does anything he can to rescue them. His simplistic way of thinking can often be insightful or thought provoking.

I definitely do agree on Knux and Rouge having a "flirty rivalry" lol and I always enjoyed it, during the adventure era. I did agree with PJ on the subject of, after that era, Knuckles and Rouge's relationship became somewhat more of, annoy each other and teasing, but without that common treasure hunter respect, they had towards each other. Knux was unreasonably hostile, due to bad character writing. As with her alignment, I've always seen Rouge as Neutral Good, never an Anti-Hero, even though she's manipulative and uses her charm, she never over steps to the point of indangering innocent lives and not caring. While her Archie and idw (comics ) versions are alright, I never really liked them all that much, Prime Rouge reminded me of her Adventure days. And I agree, Shad and her have a good friendship and mutual respect among each other, I see them as the type of friends that always keeps each other in check, if one over steps their boundaries.

I agree with this entire video. Rouge is truly an under-appreciated character in the Sonic franchise. I love her romantic chemistry and playful rivalry with Knuckles and her bond with Shadow. I should also thank Lani Minella, since when it comes to voice acting, Lani truly made Rouge a believable character by giving her the most emotion. Kathleen Delaney’s take is impossible for me to take seriously since she didn’t give Rouge any emotion and due to the more hostile interactions between Knuckles and Rouge in the Dark Era games. On top of that, Shadow and Rouge didn’t really have too much of a believable bond during that era. But still, I wish people would stop calling her a s*xual joke and realize that she’s more than a jewel thief created for s*xual appeal.

I appreciate you making a Rouge video. However, I really wish you has put some time toward the fact that Rouge is the one who still believes in Shadow when he takes the darkest of dark paths when you play GUN Fortress. But overall this REALLY is a 10/10

8:31 “He’s a 2,700 lbs murder machine” That Rouge can just easily fly around along with Shadow’s added weight?

You don't know how long I've been waiting for an analysis on rouge! Thank you so much😭

We need a game with Rouge’s backstory and she is iconic.

not the throw it all away refrence I LOVE THAT SONG

She’s my favorite female sonic character tho I wish Sega could give her a backstory. It’s sad that she and everyone else became nothing more than a Sonic cheerleader throughout the 2010s.

IDW has some grasp of these characters. They just need to do more with Team Dark.

A love story with Knuckles, Team Dark's bond I can't believe these were ignored until recently. rouge shouldn't be treated as Sonic's random companion like prime She is the leader of Team Dark, and the bond between Shadow and Omega, which is different from family. And above all, I should draw more of the relationship with Knuckles, which is hostile but love. interact with other g.u.n members too

Thank you for analyzing one of my favorite characters! Rouge is underrated and over-sexualized. Team Dark has the most chemistry out of any group imo. That said, she still works well with Team Sonic at times. She's often referred to as "manipulative' but I think her people skills could be seen in a positive light as well. That's why she's able to bring Shadow and Omega together, am I right? Love this ♥

Interesting video! Honestly at first I always thought that she was annoying but after watching this video, it’s quite true that she really became better from SA2 to 06, what a difference lol. Can’t wait for the Blaze episode 👀

This was very neat to learn about the Bat woman of thief and beauty 🦇💎

3:40 She sure does. She's a lot smarter than she gets credit for.

Woo hyped.

On a side note: i love seeing the animations from sa2 and 06. They move like people in costumes cause of the mocap use and its really charming to me

Personally, I think she needs a spin-off of her own. Something like a Metal Gear/Tomb Raider hybrid.

Yes , my man putting some respect on my girl's name. Subbed!

To be fair on Rouge's backstory, I don't think Rouge was meant to be a G.U.N. agent at the start, at least it doesn't make any logical sense when you really think about it. Granted, the whole idea of G.U.N. simply being a branch of the government in the context of SA2 also doesn't make sense as pointed out by Charriii5 in his "Everything Wrong With" video, where he points out that if G.U.N. was simply the government's military branch, why in the world would they need to send in an agent for the President? If G.U.N. is indeed part of the government, he should have immediate access to all of their top secret data, no questions asked. So to me in this context as far as my line of thinking, it only makes sense that, prior to the end of Shadow '05 (via the unlocked mission that shows Team Dark's initiation mission)/the start of '06, G.U.N. would be a PMC (like we see in the Metal Gear games like Outer Heaven) that the Government hired after the Perfect Chaos event with Rouge being an agent hired by the government to infiltrate G.U.N. since they aren't a direct branch of the main government. So while the events aren't changed all that much, I feel like the context in this situation is important to note for the future. Also for the "giving up that line of work", I thought it was meant to be in relation to the whole spy aspect, granted even if that was the case, like the treasure hunting, she goes right back to it at the end of Shadow '05. XD Although I think that's in relation to sticking close to Shadow and keeping an eye on him. But yeah, I think she might have been talking about Shadow, granted it could be both considering they both had an affect on her personality and motivations a little bit. Granted, I'm also one that's more in the Shadouge camp (Team Dark in general being a found family, Shadow as the dad, Rouge as mom (wrote that down before you called her "Mamma Dark" for the start of the Heroes segment XD), and Omega as their kid they have to keep on a leash lol) rather than the Knucouge camp considering the latter is kind of one sided in a more "Classic RE Leon and Ada" dynamic where she just likes getting a rise out of Knuckles and uses him for what she wants more often than not. Also yeah, her reasoning for not telling Shadow in Heroes to me comes off as a similar dynamic to Cloud and Tifa in FF7 as to why she doesn't tell Cloud who he is or trying to contradict his story for so long, she's afraid he'll leave but also trying to figure out the truth since there are things that don't add up in her mind about the situation. Also Sonic Battle, I've come to not rely on that game for accuracy since it screwed the pooch on ALL it's story beats aside from Emerl's dynamic with Cream, that legit is the ONLY thing that's salvageable with the least amount of revision, like the only thing I'd change there would be to have Cream be Emerl's friend at the start of the game and have the two of them grow a closer bond than Sonic and Emerl in the og game. I also agree the Forces dynamic was bad with poor line, although I DO like that they at least added the "do it to it" line. I will relish any amount of Freedom Fighter love/references that I can until/unless we actually get them to be canon to the games. Also while I'm reminded of it, I'd suggest looking at NovaZoneTV's video where he gives some suggestions for the Era renaming, otherwise a fantastic character analysis. ^u^

Great video! 😀I myself have been analyzing Rouge, so this was a great video to check out. I'm just going to drop my opinion on Rouge right here in the comments, of course it's just my opinion. I'm going to respect anyone here who disagrees with me. 👍 Now, I honestly see Rouge as the way you described her. I do believe she started out as that flirty bat who would go behind the scenes and scout for information, so on and so on. I think Shadow did really make her a better person, she realized that she cared for him and Team Dark. Now, I know our Sonic fandom these days is filled to the brim with all sorts of ships, but I honestly do not ship Rouge with anyone. Not Shadow, and most certainly not Knuckles. I know that may sound a little crazy, I get it. It seemed there were so many Rouge scenes in Sonic media with Rouge teasing Knuckles; flirting with him, and making him all flustered. In all honesty as someone who can relate to Knuckles' character in such a big way, I never saw this as the case, hence why I think later on we saw Knuckles just seem to purely hate her. Let me elaborate on that just a bit. Knuckles is what I like to consider an independent guy who has just relied on his own strength his whole life. In "Unknown from M.E.", his theme song, he said independence was his first breath. It's just apart of what makes Knuckles... Knuckles. I do think he got flustered by Rouge because he was never used to anyone complimenting him in such a manner or having anyone care. (Not that Rouge actually cared. I think she was maybe manipulating him a bit as she loves that Master Emerald...) It was something new to him. From what I understand, Knuckles hates getting teased by people and he doesn't like showing any weakness. When Rouge tried to woo him in such a way (or whatever the heck she was trying to do XD), I saw he didn't know how to respond. He only used rage. In his second song version of "Unknown from M.E.", he mentioned Rouge right by Eggman in the song as referred to "an enemy", someone he must stop. I know people will say; "Then why did Knuckles save Rouge and why did he look into her eyes?", but I know deep down... Knuckles has a heart that cares. He doesn't often let people see that side of him. "I'm the one who can set your heart free." (Unknown from M.E.) As soon as he loosens up and breaks free of his toughness and someone like Sonic takes notice of it and teases him, for example; he gets all offended and puts up his invisible wall again, preventing anyone from breaking through. There are SO many moments in Sonic media in which we get to see Knuckles be so caring towards someone or something, and needless to say, it often gets overlooked by tons of Sonic fans. I have no idea why. I've even seen the writers Sega licensed over in the past getting Knuckles' character wrong, most notably, Ken Penders... But we probably shouldn't speak of him right now. Archie comics failed on his character, Sonic Underground messed him up on the edges a little bit, Sonic OVA put him in a torturous state... Now, as much as people say Knuckles wasn't true to his character in Sonic Forces, I must agree that it is true for most of the characters in that game to be untrue (most notably Rouge as said in this video), but I believe that was a great example of Knuckles being optimistic, comfortable, and showing some leadership skills. Him caring about those around him. I must also add on (and I can't hit all of my points because this is already too long as it is), that Rouge was made to be the PERFECT rival to Knuckles. Perfect. Absolutely perfect. Just as Shadow was made to be the perfect rival to Sonic, just as Rouge is the perfect rival to Knuckles. Sega doesn't ever neglect this. Just look at a more recent Sonic game, Team Sonic Racing, and you will see it. Team Dark being well-represented and reliant on each other. On that Team Racing Overdrive short, Rouge starts to be all flirty towards Knuckles but she was hiding a wisp... going to use it against him. He managed to survive, and Rouge ended up with her car busted. Knuckles thought it was so amusing and he even put his fist up in her direction, almost making fun of her. Rouge was so disappointed, and the pain only felt worse when Shadow wouldn't pick her up in his car. That disappointment looked way worse than her disappointment towards "not being able to hit Knuckles with that wisp". She was just trying to make Knuckles end up to where she ended up ending instead. Also, Rouge flirts with Shadow often. She might flirt with Knuckles from time to time, (as I think it's her way she plays around with rivalry and just 'cause she loves that Master Emerald,) however, I see/hear Rouge keeps calling Shadow things like "handsome" and even in TSR... That's... Anyway... Do I think Rouge should be added in a lot more Sonic media than she is already in? She may be an important character, but I don't think she's always necessary. When Sonic Prime added Rouge, she wasn't even teamed up with Shadow, but much rather Sonic's team. Rouge did however only join because of the promise of the Paradox Prism. Her characters in the show were expressed well, but I didn't think that changing her original outfit and getting rid of her flirtation (a main personality trait of hers) AND teaming her up with Knuckles in one shatterverse was enough to make up for the past craziness we've already had leaked into our content with Rouge. I think having Rouge and Knuckles team up is essentially the same as Shadow and Sonic teaming up, only difference is that since Rouge is such a big flirt with the male characters and that she is a female teamed up with a male, that the fandom often ships them and assumes things for them. I've seen some things people have said about Knuckles online that really got me hurting. Knuckles is a great character, and if Sega gives in to the fans, I think we might have another Sonic Forces problem... Just my opinion of course. Feel free to disagree. 👍 I say, Knuckles for independence and he needs his justice.🥊❤‍🔥

Would anyone be interested in a Rouge The Bat Game, where we learn more about her?

Sa2-I’m gonna stop treasure hunting. Sonic Heroes-IVE FOUND EGGMANS SECRET TREASURE LAYER!!!

i always love your sonic analyses, especially team dark's & it's members. hearing rouge's theme in 2023 also gives huge nostalgia. thank you for feeding us 🙏 ROUGE BEST CHARACTER !!!!!!!!

Shes awesome. Underrated character.

She is my favorite female character of the franchise! I love her!

we got sonic the cool kid shadow the edgelord and rouge the awakening they all were important and then deviant art came...

I think you put more thought into the story than Sonic Team ever did.

I think that Rouge was at her best in Sonic Adventure 2, just like I think Shadow was at his best in Sonic Adventure 2. Also, I love how Rouge as a character was the first truly 'mature' female character in the Sonic games. I think Sega chose to create Rouge as a way of representing the fact that the original fans of Sonic who grew up with the Sonic franchise back in the 90s (like me) had grown up (or at least grown older) and decided to make the Sonic franchise somewhat more mature for that reason starting with Sonic Adventure 2. I'm also old enough to remember reading on the internet rumours about a new character who would be introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 called 'Nails'. I think Nails is a pretty cool name and it even rhymes with the name 'Tails'. But I prefer the name 'Rouge' to the name 'Nails' though, because we don't need yet ANOTHER Sonic character named after a body part (like Knuckles and Tails - and yes, I know Tails is just his nickname and that his real name is Miles Prower, but he's still almost always called 'Tails'). Also, I prefer shipping Rouge with Knuckles instead of Shadow because I think of Shadow and Rouge as being more like siblings than romantic partners, with Rouge always having Shadow's back. Also, Sonic himself actually has one major thing in common with Rouge and that is their love of freedom. Both Sonic and Rouge have a strong love for freedom. In fact, Rouge's theme song in Sonic Adventure 2 is even called 'Fly In The Freedom'. Also, I hope that Rouge appears in the third Sonic movie.

Rouge, understandably, reminds me of Catwoman and Fujiko Mine-- two other characters in the sexy, flirty female thief archetype. All three are intelligent, independent women with their own agendas who nevertheless have strong standards and ethics... even if their ethical codes aren't always hugely standard.

Rouge, your Satam Sonic is showing! 13:17

mama rouge stucked with me lot more

Great video, as always.

I don't think I see a lot of Rouge analysis videos (which probably has to do with her reputation as furry fanservice). Anyway, good job. I'd like to a Team Dark spinoff game if Sega ever decides to do spinoffs again. Also, I think you could do something with exploring Rouge and Amy's dynamic given their similarities and differences.

Rouge and Knuckles as characters bounce off eachother very well. Basically what im saying is that I love their dynamics.

I have read your description, nothing short of truth about the characters. ✊🏾👌🏾💯😆

Great example of a character made as a counterpart to someone else but not getting lost in their shadow. Knuckles is reclusive and doesn't understand the broader world around him. Rouge is so outgoing she's playing different teams, and is a spy - the epitome of the "high tech" world that Knuckles was overwhelmed by in 3K. She's as cartoonishly self-interested as Knuckles is cartoonishly deferential to a tribe he has never met. Also the surface level espionage vs smashy smashy I guess. If she comes back in a big way she needs to be paired up with knuckles again somehow.

Luv this video. And plz oh lord we need a team dark show or game. And have more knuxouge moments (no offence to the other ships).

My personal head canon leans more towards shadow and rouge having a romantic relationship down the line. Pushed mainly by the fact that shadow always breaks down her emotional walls and challenges her to change. (No hate to knux and rouge fans that ship is equally valid)

I love rouge the bat and she's incredible with her skills and love of gems so this is the best video about rouge acecardgaming!

This video is a beauty, man.

Unlike Team Sonic, Team Dark Helps Each Other From Disaster Lol

Breaking news: Sonic's comrade Knuckles has come to Rouge the Bat's home with flowers in hand, greeting her and claiming her to be the most beautiful bat he's ever seen. Rouge seems to have blushed at the statement. This comes as a surprise to many Sonic fans, who are now curious as to what will happen next. More on this heartwarming story soon...

Love her so much! Espically her character in prime, I've always shipped her and shadow lol great video 🤙

The faster Bat Girl knows her role and keeps her hands off of my emerald the better my opinion of her gets. 🤨

I NEED a SA2 Remake so damn bad

and I'm also going to touch on the topic of ian and bublee, I mean, he gets information about all the sonic events and we have to talk about the relationship of team dark or the supposed relationship of shadow or rouge, the guy says that shadow doesn't like getting together with omega and rouge aha yes in the hero game itself and the recent games the relationship is explained seriously I have to swallow all this or also on the subject of shadow and rouge's relationship and apparently people got angry because rouge has eyes towards knuckles but they are rivals, another thing is that she is 18 and knuckles is 16, it is unfortunate to include references to ships in an editorial such as idw

The modless pc version of SA2 is pissing me off

With there was more normal videos about rouge, whenever i search rouge the bat on yt i see content farm and fake evolution videos

I don't get what's wrong with Rouge saying, "Let's do it to it!" in Forces. If anything, it's just a cool little reference to Sonic SatAM and the Archie Sonic Comics. Nothing more nothing less.

Hmmmm i womder if rouge has any backstory in like archie or something.

Yeah Man I Was Talking About But Princess Daisy Is Not An Anti-Heroine, But Rouge The Bat Was An Anti-Heroine And There Are No Anti-Heroine Characters In Mario Franchise Such As Birdo And Captain Syrup, Even Luigi Was Counterpart To Tails, Not Shadow. And Wario Was Counterpart To Shadow But Both They Are Anti-Heroic Counterparts And Rivals Of Mario And Sonic.

Cute!! 0:06

I think Team Dark's relationship is a lot tighter than Sonic/Tails/Knuckles/Amy etc ever was, Sonic a lot of the time doesn't stay with his friends because he hates remaining in one place, Knuckles has his duty as a guardian, and Tails, well, Tails is probably the only one who values their friendship (wow, I wonder how it would be if Tails was ever in Team Dark?), I guess Amy too, but most of the time she's just enjoying the ride.

If you would do Rouge, I can already feel you would have more character analysis videos you will do and I'm all up for it 💪🏽🫡

because she’s the only one that cares about Shadow

13:18 Of _all_ the characters to use for a Sonic SatAM reference, _why Rouge?!_

Damn i love her one polygon

i love you rouge the bat

the ada wong of sonic

throw it all awaaaaaaay

...I'm going to choose NOT to get context for that "Eggman pissed on the moon" line. Any comments left explaining it will be left unread.

hoping movie 3 wont exclude her

Because of Freedom Fighters. Besides I’m still having mixed thoughts about her.

I hate the GameCube cutscene why haven’t people fixed them and added the Dreamcast lighting system to them? The modders did it for SA1

Rouge is a awesome female character and vary cute and sweet 🥹

Second! I hate these type of comments.