Having a button for the clutch can also help with standing starts. Using a double clutch, you can release the clutch with the button, and the clutch depressed to the desired level with the pedal, it will immediately jump to the perfect clutch level every time.

I’ll use my pedal even though it’s slower it’s way more fun and realistic imo, but great tip.

I think I’m gonna make my clutch pedal super sensitive now 😂

Honestly kinda weird, going through and making it as realistic as possible and then still doing stuff like this

Sim racers: your game isn't realistic! (Uses bumper cam and a button for clutch)

I've always done it, not for competitive advantage, but because I'm a pleb that can't afford a 3-pedal rig. Thanks for the validation, though! 😄

Just a small gripe, but when the pedal is up, the clutch is "engaged." When you press the pedal, you're allowing the clutch to disengage the engine from the driveline.

I'll keep using my clutch. If I wanted to use a button for the clutch I would've stuck with a controller 😂

this will only work in sims that dont calculate shift times. Try this in AMS and your gonna fight it the entire time. And blipless downshifting where you want the extra engine braking would be a nightmare with a button and lead to a ton of compression locking. Would much rather have control over speed of the clutch.

iRacing: "You can use a button for the clutch pedal." Also iRacing: "You must use paddle shifters for cars that use paddle shifters."

I remember back in the day when we did this as a limitation and then we went away from this because we wanted the realism and then we went back to it because everyone wanted to be esports. Which goes back to a video you did a few months ago where I commented saying eSports was the death of things lol

Me kicking an old flight stick for the clutch cause my Driving Force GT only has two pedals...

You should have to bind your clutch input to an axis.

I'm just commenting to appreciate the looping video! Very well done, Sir!🤜💥🤛

Great channel. Great videos and shorts. Good stuff for people to post comments supposed to go on other videos. You should try doing an iRacing podcast. It could be fun.

its funny how iracing dudes take the game so seriously yet they bind clutch to a button thats impossible to do in real life, honestly iracing should patch that

Former world record holder on Test Drive Unlimited 2 here. Button clutch mapping in H-pattern shift cars in TDU2 gave you instant shifts, in the Koenigsegg this allowed you to hit extreme speeds. I used it to hold the record on the airfield track until the servers went offline.

I've done this since day one. Not to save fuel, not to go faster, nothing like that. Ive always just done it to minimize back pain, which, due to my disability(OI aka "brittle bone disease"), is a daily factor for me. Anything I can do in simracing to save my back, I'll do it. Don't really care whether it's less realistic at this point.

I drive with a logitech flight yoke and having only 2 pedals use a button clutch as well as button shifters. It’s incredibly fast.

Double clutch paddle go brr

AWESOME VIDEO

I still use a DFGT wheel so I have my clutch binded to a button close to the rim, I've never had a problem in any sim

Thank you. Trying to get through rookie with this tip helps

Audi did that in their Group B rally cars i believe. Not on the wheel but on the shift knob.

This is the difference between sim racers and just your good ol fashion core gamers.

Once I went from controller racer to sim racer I found myself torn between better lap times and enjoying the realism I paid for. 😅

Use your foot like god intended

I think it was AUDI at IMSA that had a button for the clutch on the shifter as well as the pedal when they needed the feet for braking and keeping the turbo spooling in certain corners. Not as unrealistic as you might think.

Gaming Wheel Manufacturers: Our new pedals register 10,000 different positions. Pro sim racers: the clutch is a button

Going from Auto, to Manual, then Manual w/clutch is life changing and well worth sticking it out, you will improve your lap times greatly

yup. I discovered this when I was a kid back in the late 90s early 00s

People will do literally anything in games nowadays other than having fun.

I simply wouldn't do that. Sometimes the excitement of replicating the real stuff is better than being competitive.

It actually is kind of realistic. The Pikes Peak Audi S1 had a button activated clutch.

Guess I gotta change my binds

That's really cool!

If a simulation is being used to develop a real race car or scenario then this falls short of accurately recreating a result that is achievable whether it is fuel consumption or lap time.

I actually used the cheap 458 wheel for awhile on FM7 and had my clutch/ebrake mapped to the two right thumb buttons and then I just used the paddles to shift. The wheel wasn't the greatest for racing, but what it was fun for was drifting. That setup actually worked better than you think lol

Never thought of that. I am just racing for fun. But I got some game challenges where you really need to do the fastest laps. Might try that.

I just didn’t want to buy a handbrake so I applied it to the clutch lol

Oooooo he did that on the end

Also, I imagine it's help on the road side of things with those heel toes, and allows them to maintain left foot brake right foot throttle and thumb on the clutch. Also, it's not entirely unrealistic. It's possible IRL. A lot of heavy machinery have a push button clutch on the shifter, a Fett wheel, and right wheel brake pedal, and a throttle, and a throttle on the wheel too, so you can basically set an RPM (say you're running something needing a specific RPM to hit the specific PTO speed for whatever they're using needs) but you can use the floor throttle still but now you basically just moved idle up to whatever you want. So, it's not entirely unrealistic to imagine a push button clutch in a racecar.

I do it too. It also eliminates miss shifts.

We had button clutch and launch control in our formula student car with 9 level to adjust for different slip. Gave us easy 4th place in acceleration since drive just went full throttle.

Electric Clutch Disconnect is what some people call the clutch button on construction equipment. Hold the button, shift the gears…

This is like a virtual "quick shifter" (which some motorcycles use).

you can also use the brake and accelerator at the same time and just magically get through any corner. Works with every racing game/sim I ever played.

Dogboxs have entered the chat.

I use the clutch pedal on my wheel and in games, like codies F1 games, where a pedal is not really supported, i pull just enough so that it engages (2 mm or so) and just release at the start. In my opinion easier than a button, where you always have a wall before engaging/ releasing the clutch

I did this on my wheel a while ago and it was fun

Fascinating.

You can change the sensitivity of the clutch on most games I’ve played so just lightly pressing the clutch peddle will engage it 👌. I actually have my clutch peddle set as my E break because I don’t have a shifter or E break so drifting is difficult. Trying to find the paddle shifters or E break when the wheel is spinning around constantly isn’t fun 😅

binding the clutch to a button instead of a foot pedal works in real life too. F1 cars has the clutch bound to a pedal underneath the shifter to help with launching from a standing start.

I’m no pro and I used the 12 button on my Fanatec as the clutch and I also use the launch feature in iRacing.

Wheel I use a clutch for fun then got used to it and drove my first car that was actual stick

To disengage* when non-stick shift drivers talk about stick shifts

So.... I worked in the Coke Series and prior eNASCAR WC incarnations (PEAK Series) for ten years with the drivers pictured in this video (Conti and Ottinger) and I don't know of a time when Ottinger had a button mapped as a clutch (MAYBE early on, 2009-2010 but not in the championship run a few years ago). At that level you cannot lose time on pit road, and the easiest way to lose time was to bust the rear tires loose leaving a pit stop which happens nearly 100% of the time when the clutch is mapped to a button. Further, when I was racing in Class B and I was building the cars that won the championship, none of us used a button for a clutch. To leave the pit stall we basically just dragged it out of the box to prevent wheelspin. Even more than that, nobody worth their salt uses a clutch to shift at that level. If anything, you'd move the shifter to up-shift and hold it, then blip out of the throttle (no less than 50-60%) and then back to full throttle. It'll shift instantly with no chance of the wheelspin that happens from a button-clutch like pictured. Not sure where he got this info, but it's not true.

I was fully expecting him to say bumpdrafting in formula cars😂

the thought behind that is hilarious... yeah i wanna sim race cuz other games arent realistic now i cheat cuz i cant handle my lack of talent

In a RACING game, the way you clutch is basically on/off anyway. So this whole thing is essentially about preferring your foot or your finger to engage the clutch.

I am a stickler. So I always use pedal clutch. Its called simulation in the first place. Cause yoh wanna similate irl scenario. Although I can understand the button or wheel paddle clutch. Like the GT3 mclaren wheel for fanatec. Some people might have leg complications not allowing them to use pedals for clutch. Hence theh exist as buttons or paddles just below the gear paddle.

To save fuel you can: 1. Stay in higher gears in slower zones 2. Coast in neutral when you have momentum

Tractors have buttons as clutch IRL. So, this is not that unrealistic.

Been doing this with Forza since motorsport 3. Switch the left bumper and A button , and slow cars got a lot faster.

used that when i used dfgt its pedals didnt have clutch and this was so much better than auto clutch

Clutch also helps to come back in straight if you oversteer in a corner

...... Hmmm now thats a thought, have a box that connects to a button and depresses a servo to disengage the clutch on press then wire it to the stick .......

I cant remember the game but I swear there used to be a sim that let you multi bind buttons. So you could just bind shift up and clutch to the same button making it instantly shift

I used to do this on nr2003

Some le mans cars have a coast button, the Porsche 919 had a button labelled "sail" that was for coasting as an example

how the heck did i not think of this

That 0.5 millisecond saves sooo much fuel, lol

Hand operated clutches are in every level formula car nowadays. Some TCRs and GTs even have them. The BAC mono, a road car has it.

One could in theory use a button to engage or disaengage a clutch IRL by using a large solenoid or pneumatic cylinder to operate the clutch.

Many straight cut gearboxes don't require a full clutch depression and a full lift, that's why you can see in late 80s f1 onboards drivers tapping the clutch and lifting the whole right leg for instant shifts

I wonder if anybody's ever created a sort of two-step floppy paddle shifter for sim racing. The first step in gauges the clutch, and the second step changes gears. It would be weird to button map though.

Irl engineers: should we make a rocket popelled clutch mechanism 😮

They should make button clutch have some built in travel time

The only thing i use clutch for is whipping the car around after a spin and getting out of the pits. There’s no reason to use it in stock cars at all when you’re moving but whatevs. Sometimes people will do something just because they think it’s worth it when it really isn’t.

that is a thing that is done in real life. stick shift drag racers have a sensor on the shifter that engages the clutch and cuts throttle to make quicker shifts

nice video

If you want the high RPM's around turns, don't forget to upgrade to the Racing Clutch & Flywheel. If your teaching a newbie Manual transmission, you can just use the stick without the clutch until they get the idea. Not like the virtual transmission cares😂

Y’all use a wheel? *keyboard player noises*

Just to be clear, many IRL track cars use button clutches, including most F series (I know F1 and F3 have clutch paddles at the very least)

in nascar the only time they use the clutch now is letting it out in first gear. most drivers just match the next gear to the engine RPM and shift without a clutch.

There goes the word simulation straight out the window

I’m gonna continue using the pedals. If I ever get behind the wheel of a real racecar (which seems to be a trend with sim racers nowadays) like said in the video it won’t be possible to have a button clutch. Great idea though.

I do powershifting and literally kick my clutch and PUNCH into the next gear withing at least 0.50 sec 😂

And also. Using button handbrake will help with your braking too.

You can save some time but you need to save time while using the shifter. It's no use to press the clutch quickly if you cannot use the shifter efficiently

I used to beat wheel users in Forza 7 with a controller, no assists, because you can shift so fucking fast with it.

This is a real thing in real racing both in F1 and GT2 and GT3 class racing the clutch is behind the steering yolk like a paddle shifter but index finger size.

It also helps on standing starts in low HP cars. I’ve seen people pass multiple cars doing it. It would be nice if they got rid of it on the road side cause of that. It’s a very annoying exploit in my opinion.

You can also left foot brake

F1: i am 4 parralel universes ahead of you

I use a clutch pedal, but I totally get the button thing, and I've probably been beaten by it

Dunno why they don't just artificially limit the speed of the clutch. Like if you press the button, the clutch takes 100ms or so - just measure a fast clutch press - to disengage and engage. That makes it more realistic and evens the playing field. Someone could fake an axis with an arduino but then you could still limit the speed of the clutch with axis players too. As long as it's fast enough they shouldn't notice a difference.

The clutch in real life F1 cars is a button on the steering wheel, it’s not something only possible on a sim

Heh... I got a left button to steer full lock left and a right button full lock right... and now I can take 90 degree corners like the car is on rails...

I was under the impression that the clutch was only used in nascar for standing starts