Why Students Should Call You by Your First Name

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Thom Gibson

Thom Gibson

Күн бұрын

Calling a teacher by their title has always been a sign of respect. But there's a case to be made on why you may want to consider being on a first name basis with your students.
0:00 TikTok trend
0:57 Being Mr. Gibson
2:18 Transition to first name basis
2:50 Is it disrespectful?
3:41 Teacher-student boundaries
4:55 Student choice
5:18 Doing this in your school
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@jerrydorrejo7039
@jerrydorrejo7039 2 жыл бұрын
I teach English to elementary and middle school students in Spain. Here, it is basically the norm for students to call teachers by their first name. I noticed, years ago when I arrived in Spain, that it definitely builds a positive culture and relationship with students in the classroom.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 2 жыл бұрын
For sure Jerry!
@donnybonham1398
@donnybonham1398 3 жыл бұрын
I'm totally going to experiment with this in my student teaching placements. Thank you for posting this, Thom!!
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck Donny. Be sure to maintain that healthy boundary that you're the teacher and they're the student; if students can sense you're doing it because you want them to like you, they can smell that from a mile away and they end up losing respect for you. But if they can tell that you're not interested in being their 'friend' but you do want to connect with them in a meaningful way as their guide and mentor, they'll respect that.
@VirtualTeachingPro
@VirtualTeachingPro 3 жыл бұрын
I love giving them the option then they can decide what feels best for them.
@themasterrogerdelgado
@themasterrogerdelgado Жыл бұрын
I'm a second year teacher and love your content. This video caught my attention because I wanted to do it when I started teaching but was reprimanded almost immediately by the principal's assistant of all people. She insisted I call her "Ms. Smith" (not her real name) instead of Sharon. It took me weeks to get used to adults addressing each other by title. It's stilted and unnecessary IMHO. So this is not allowed at my school but I love the fact it is at some others.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Yeah sometimes you just have to go with the flow of the school culture you find yourself in. It is odd that admin isn't on a first name basis.
@sagamanic3083
@sagamanic3083 5 ай бұрын
If you are able to still be a mentor to your students then this will be beneficial, however in most the cases I seen teachers implement this approach it always ends on the students confusing the relationship and disrespecting the teacher.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's on the teacher to still set those boundaries. It's also easier to do if you're not the only teacher doing it.
@josuaroffler196
@josuaroffler196 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an interesting idea. Here in Switzerland, when talking in German, I guess it would be very hard to implement though. In English lessons, however, when everybody talks in English, all of a sudden it's no problem when students call their teacher by the first name. In German, we have the polite form of address and the casual form. So, every sentence sounds a little bit different depending on what form you use. Also, there are different words for greeting people. Some greetings are considered formal and others casual. And since the polite form is the usual way how you talk to other people except for family, friends and peers, I think it makes sense that the pupils learn to address their teacher this way. Each language is different. I like your videos a lot btw.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn't get into cultural nuances in the video too much but I saw a lot of that when I was doing research for the video. I didn't think about how different language is structured though! Great point Josua. Also, I got to visit Switzerland a few summers ago. It was awesome. There's some old vlogs that I filmed while I was there that you can see here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9-haJCo1bS5ZqM.html&ab_channel=ThomGibson
@josuaroffler196
@josuaroffler196 3 жыл бұрын
@@gibsonedu Wow, cool videos about Switzerland. Once you are back, let's meet up and eat some Rösti or Fondue together haha.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
@@josuaroffler196 Ha, for sure!
@VirtualTeachingPro
@VirtualTeachingPro 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great viewpoint since it might differ based on language and culture. Thanks for sharing.
@annibjrkmann8464
@annibjrkmann8464 2 күн бұрын
All research shows that the more a child sees the teacher as close relative the better their academic achievement will be. So calling a teacher by their last name creates a barrier for learning, this is just bad pedagogy.
@quati_nasua
@quati_nasua 4 ай бұрын
I find it funny that here in brazil we call our teachers their first name or nickname but the most common is "teach" (sorter version of teacher lol). Like from kindergarden to uni we always call teachers "teach". I am in math uni to become a teacher. I am waiting for the day to be called "teach". I find it cute and nice.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 4 ай бұрын
Good luck in your studies teach :)
@pault9544
@pault9544 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a bit hard when you're a language teacher. In Chinese culture, filial piety which stems from confucianism still reflects strongly in modern society. In the Chinese language there are different word forms that show respect, they don't often use Mr. Or Mrs. but they will say the last name followed by a word that just means teacher. So it ends up being something like "Smith Teacher" only in Chinese. Also because of the overall rhythm in the language, in most cases it just rolls off the tongue easier when you say the last name (which is always only one syllable in chinese) and then teacher.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I probably should have added that caveat to the video that cultural contexts do matter in something like this.
@joshuajim65
@joshuajim65 2 жыл бұрын
Respect is not given, it's earned that's why.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 2 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@MarcusSt0ne
@MarcusSt0ne 3 жыл бұрын
I had some students call me just by my last name and leaving out the “Mr.” which I thought was interesting. I didn’t comment on it because I think it’s a nice middle ground.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a perfect middle ground and I wish I had mentioned it in the video! One of my teacher-KZfaqr friends CJ Reynolds does that w/ his kids; they call him 'Reynolds' and not 'Mr. Reynolds.' It's a way of making things a little less formal without going with your first name, and it's easier to do if the rest of the school is still going by traditional titles.
@VirtualTeachingPro
@VirtualTeachingPro 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great point of finding a middle ground
@Rick-Guitar-Bass-Science-Math
@Rick-Guitar-Bass-Science-Math 14 күн бұрын
17 years ago I started driving a school bus. I started going by Mr Rick because my last name is complicated and just to make it easier on everyone that’s what I chose. As I got into subbing and then as a para everyone already knew me as Mr Rick, even the Administration. This year I will begin teaching grade six science at a different district and I will follow the norm of the school. If it’s mixed, I will go by Mr Rick.
@harithaonline1220
@harithaonline1220 2 жыл бұрын
I go by a first name basis, you guess right! It's just me on that in the whole school. In the beginning, the Vice principal told the students to stop it but was told I told them they could call me so. Honestly though, I am just in love with my first name, I don't think I have any other reason for doing so😊
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 2 жыл бұрын
Haritha is a nice name :)
@YumYumScrappers
@YumYumScrappers Жыл бұрын
so you taught your students to be disrespectful toward the vice principal and not listen to him who by the way is also ur boss who you don’t respect bc you love your own name. wow! way to show keeps how to be respectful. thanks for teaching oye students that they done have to listen and be respectful to their vice principal.
@marus8388
@marus8388 Жыл бұрын
@@YumYumScrappers Have you even watched the video?
@user-dw7bz9qp9k
@user-dw7bz9qp9k 6 ай бұрын
@@YumYumScrappersit’s not disrespect,she told the principal that she preferred to be called by her first name
@user-dw7bz9qp9k
@user-dw7bz9qp9k 6 ай бұрын
Same with me.Mrs Cynthia
@almostideal1306
@almostideal1306 Жыл бұрын
It's weird, I call people I like by their last name, although without the Mr, Mrs, etc.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
That can actually be a way of connecting w/ others as well :)
@almostideal1306
@almostideal1306 Жыл бұрын
@@gibsonedu Only my best friends, If i like you then you're a Smith, Jones etc..
@royalandonyx
@royalandonyx 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be my first year teaching and I'm nervous to do this, even though I want to. My primary experience with kids is as a big brother and that's the sort of role I always imagined myself taking toward kids. But I'd be the only teacher doing this in my small middle school and if I don't otherwise have the respect of the kids (hard to do from the start) this is going to seem like a big contributing factor, or at least a symptom.
@royalandonyx
@royalandonyx 3 жыл бұрын
By "hard to do from the start" I mean it'll be difficult to ensure that I do things correctly given that this is my first year. I expect that I'll learn a lot this year and I'd hate to compound that by making such a bold move. So I'm not sure whether to go for it or not.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Blizz, thanks for bringing that up. I wouldn't recommend this for a first year teaching trying to do it in a school where it isn't the norm. You will want to build up your confidence in classroom management as well as your reputation with the school among fellow staff and I could see how this could present problems in both regards. I know what you mean about being a big brother but I'd be wary of framing it that way; a big brother DOES provide mentorship but often is seen more as a peer than an authority. While you don't want to wield your authority over your students (as I mentioned in the video), you do want to maintain healthy boundaries with your students.
@royalandonyx
@royalandonyx 3 жыл бұрын
@@gibsonedu Good points Thom, thanks for the guidance. To be more clear about the big brother thing, I'm substantially older than most of my siblings, so our relationships aren't really those of peers. But yeah, I still full agree with you. Thanks again.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
@@royalandonyx Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Let me know what you decide Blizz!
@VirtualTeachingPro
@VirtualTeachingPro 3 жыл бұрын
@@royalandonyx I think it's a personal decision based on your perspective as a teacher especially when starting out. How you want to be addressed is solely your decision. When I started using pronouns in my classes, no one else was doing it but bc I started it picked up fire and now many other faculty do it as well after I explained why it creates inclusive practices in the classroom.
@raeze8401
@raeze8401 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me why American call someone with their last name how if that’s your do still call them with their last name because in my country it’s disrespectful if you call someone with their last name we only call them using their first name
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Just sort of the way it's always been I guess.
@raeze8401
@raeze8401 3 жыл бұрын
@@gibsonedu so if you talk with your friend you call them their first name or last name
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
@@raeze8401 Friends and family are first name and people in authority are typically last names.
@raeze8401
@raeze8401 3 жыл бұрын
@@gibsonedu so it’s like you use last name for formal talk
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@estellewackman587
@estellewackman587 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Thom it's your old student Estelle. I miss you!
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Estelle!
@yamansonmez782
@yamansonmez782 Жыл бұрын
I just realized how strange it is because we either say teacher in first-person singular or with their names + teacher again and before secondary school we also use a kinder word for that
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Yeah lots of ways to do it
@hommy1614
@hommy1614 7 ай бұрын
I can remember the first time my children told me that the hip parents wanted to be called by their first names. 🙄I told them we would never be hip, their friends could call us "Mr." and "Mrs.", and I hoped they would show other parents and teachers the same respect.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 6 ай бұрын
Yeah the first name basis isn't for everyone.
@VirtualTeachingPro
@VirtualTeachingPro 3 жыл бұрын
I teach a the college level and always let me students call me by my first name if they feel comfortable doing that but give them the option of Professor Espinosa. I have found it extremely rewarding in building relationships and respect with my students.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah given them the option is always a great idea. Thanks Ashlee! I saw you over on the New EdTech Classroom channel as well!
@YumYumScrappers
@YumYumScrappers Жыл бұрын
They are college students. Many are considered adults by American standards not elementary student , middle school, and secondary educational students. This professor also shows respect by allowing them to call him with his title if they felt uncomfortable. Respect is earned not given.
@Luna18Cat05
@Luna18Cat05 5 ай бұрын
I literally was just told by my team at my first middle school job to stop letting kids call me Miss First Name. I told the students either first or last is fine based on their comfort. To have my coteachers tell me to stop it made me frustrated since I did it for exactly as you said it. I’ve only been here about a month so to accuse my name choice as one of the reasons for students testing me is ridiculous.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it can be a hard dynamic if you're the only teacher going by your first name. Sorry to hear that happened.
@Luna18Cat05
@Luna18Cat05 3 ай бұрын
@@gibsonedu thanks. I’m making it work though. I’m already seeing kids being comfortable with it and being around me. My mornings are spent with students from every class period coming in to say hi/hang out 😂 I call that progress!
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 ай бұрын
@@Luna18Cat05 Progress for sure 👍
@Sdm410
@Sdm410 3 жыл бұрын
I agree whole heartedly 💙
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 3 жыл бұрын
Right on Shayla :)
@garthhunt7238
@garthhunt7238 7 ай бұрын
What happened to you on KZfaq, Thom? I can’t find videos from you that are less than 2 years old.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking in Garth! At the end of 2021, I joined the team at New EdTech Classroom (kzfaq.info) and worked with them to support teachers integrating tech in the classroom. I've since shifted to become an advisor to them and now do marketing with a non-education company called ConvertKit. While I don't post KZfaq videos here anymore, I do still have an active newsletter for educators that you can sign up for at thomgibson.com/newsletter
@garthhunt7238
@garthhunt7238 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply😊 Wishing you every success!
@mavrickhentsibayan395
@mavrickhentsibayan395 2 ай бұрын
Never here in the Philippines. We revere our teachers so much that it gives us ick and are very uncomfortable calling them by their first name. I mean we do not call our elders by their first name, we call them ate, kuya, uncle, auntie, lolo, lola. So it won’t make sense to our culture.
@Cultivatedbee23
@Cultivatedbee23 9 ай бұрын
My last name is Adams but I actually go by Miss Bee. Children in general are not allowed to call me by my full first name. Miss Bee is literally an entire personality😂.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 8 ай бұрын
Love that Miss Bee!
@supergirl200005652
@supergirl200005652 4 ай бұрын
See my first name is Camile, which I like a lot, but it doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue like “Tom.” I also hate the nickname Cam or Cami, and don’t want them to call me that. I’d rather go by my last name honestly.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 4 ай бұрын
Last name works too Camile :)
@NortelGeek
@NortelGeek Жыл бұрын
Teachers used to refer to students by Mr. and Ms., but that changed, however, students are still expected to show that respect to teachers. It's a bit of a double standard. Also, using last names used to be a part of polite society. At my job at the phone company, we were required to use Mr. or Ms./Mrs. when a caller inquired as to our names.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can actually see that being a good system too; everyone being Mr. ___ or Ms. ___.
@xanider5098
@xanider5098 7 ай бұрын
Lmao who decided this is disrespectful? The past was weird. Lol
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu 6 ай бұрын
Generational and cultural things.
@mavrickhentsibayan395
@mavrickhentsibayan395 2 ай бұрын
It is if you’re asian. You’re not the only culture in the world lol.
@dtthept9275
@dtthept9275 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with using a formal title? I feel that our society no longer holds respect for elders, and this is such a sad commentary. Children should respect (not fear, nor blindly obey) adults. I still call my administrators by Mr. and Mrs., whether it be through email or verbal communications. Teachers are not students' masters, but they should certainly not be treated as equals.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not for everyone, but just something to consider :)
@joshuarowsom2160
@joshuarowsom2160 11 ай бұрын
Thom did not say using a formal title was wrong. Why should children blindly respect adults? Thom also stated that being called by your first name makes you equal. If you choose to use a title, then by all means use a title, but do not look down on teachers who choose to use their first name.
@PrinceMarcusWilliam
@PrinceMarcusWilliam 5 ай бұрын
@@joshuarowsom2160 You didn't read her response correctly. "Children should respect (not fear, nor blindly obey) adults." She also didn't imply that she looks down on teachers that let their students address them by their first name.
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 Жыл бұрын
When our society was intact, children and young adults called their elders Mr., Mrs., etc. Now that society has crumbled and more than half the students don't have both parents in their house, drug use is rampant, depression and anxiety are through the roof, children and adults dress like crap, people don't know what sex they are, and academic achievement is in the toilet... sure why not just get rid of the last bit of normalcy and formality left in society. Why not just have the students call you schmuck?
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective Kenny Gee 🎷
@EMVelez
@EMVelez 8 ай бұрын
Lmao . Perfect response complete with saxophone
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 8 ай бұрын
Yes, smart-ass teachers are another reason more and more parents are removing their children from failing government schools.@@EMVelez
@DarthFurie
@DarthFurie 8 ай бұрын
Respect for a person doesn't come from a title, somebody can cuss you out while calling you by your last name. Respect comes from understanding, empathy, people skills, tone, demeanor, etc. I am an adult and I call my adult friends' parents by their first names (as requested), but I address them with a respectful tone and demeanor because they are still my elders even though I'm grown
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 8 ай бұрын
@@DarthFurie perhaps it's just a coincidence that as our society gets more and more informal, the respect for elders and authority goes down, and and the tone and demeaner has less and less respect. My whole point is the world is going down the toilet and these hip teachers keep trying newfangled things. It's not working. Perhaps we should look to the past to see what worked and what didn't and try to implement some structure. The parents in my circles have pulled their children from public schools years ago, and people who love their children will continue to do so as they don't want their children instructed by Teacher Bob with a man bun and tattoo and has unique pronouns.
@YumYumScrappers
@YumYumScrappers Жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with this. This is the most ridiculous video. It would take way to long to break down and dissect many things you said that is so incorrect. One if you are stating that calling someone Mr. & Mrs. is a sign of dominance over students then you should stop teaching. I would not want you to teach my child thing. These people worked years and very hard to earn their title and to imply that by students calling their teacher mr., miss, mrs. means that they do not have a brilliant relationship is asinine and that it only shows dominance is crazy. I as a student would withdraw from your class personally bc you are showing and teaching disrespect to people like my parents who spent years going to school and earring their degrees and titles . Respect is earned as well, this can be done with a title. You can have a title and still have great respect and a great relationship with your students, parents and coworkers.If the American school system in general taught students the importance of earning and showing basic respect for human beings then I would say yes go for it but look at how horrifying schools are now and how we rank at the very bottom of the list when it comes to education. Let’s teach our kids first WHAT RESPECT is first and what it looks like. I remember my professors throughout school always addresses the students Miss Parks or Mr. Apple. I remember that this was brilliant and loved it. Respect was shown both ways. One other thing, just because you gave ur students permission to do this does not mean they still respected you more, they still knew you had power over them. Complying does not mean respect. Next, did you inform parents before this? I know for a fact that many of us would not be able to do this because it would go against how we were raised by our parent. You are pretty much saying I should drop calling my mother “mom” and start calling her Kelley because that will show her how respectful I see her? Let me show my grandmother respect and call her Paulina instead of grandmother. A title she has earned as my parents’ parent and as my elder. Yea, NOPE. Not the fact that these people has also earned their titles by raising and sacrificing to give me every opportunity in life. Stop the bull. We as a society in America has become way to relax. This is why we are struggling as a whole. Sorry, I heartily disagree. If our society was different I would say yes but no, nope, nada.
@gibsonedu
@gibsonedu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective Yum Yum 👍
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 Жыл бұрын
Finally, an adult in the comments section. We need more adult teachers who understand how societies used to work. There was a hierarchy, and children respected their elders. I think a lot of the hip new teachers like the young man making these videos haven't been around to see in real time the correlation between the decline of formality and respect and the decline of standards and achievement. And of course the decline of decency and morality.
@YumYumScrappers
@YumYumScrappers Жыл бұрын
@@kennygee2715 he is a new teacher. If u have not taught for more than a decade and worked in many different types of schools and environments. I show no respect for teacher who want to get on a soap box and try to teach others but have no diverse teaching background.
@kennygee2715
@kennygee2715 Жыл бұрын
@@YumYumScrappers I just realized, he quit teaching! Another expert young teacher I was watching quit teaching too. I got them mixed up and didn't realize Thom quit. I need to watch his video on why he quit.
@kendrick3669
@kendrick3669 Жыл бұрын
So your entire argument is basically hard work deserves respect💀if that’s the case why not use this in everyday situations we should all be calling bill gates and Jeff Bezos Mrs lol. Your argument seems egotistical no one “deserves” respect no one can command respect logically. Yes I understand humility but forcing someone to call you something because of your own life decisions isn’t very humaine🤦🏽‍♂️
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