Why Sunny Starscout is a Poor Character

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Күн бұрын

Let’s just say that what I initially thought about Sunny was half-right because she gets worse over time. Now, this is just my opinion, so don’t take this seriously - only I will do that. Anyway, I will exclude the ongoing G5 comic series to focus on the animated media we’ve seen of Sunny’s overall character development. This video took a while to make, so please give it a like and subscribe for more content in the near future! (Also, apologies for awkwardness due to anxiety and volume peaking!)
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- TIMESTAMPS -
0:00 - intro
1:47 - a new sunny (+ hitch's relationship)
5:44 - sunny + izzy (movie version)
10:44 - sunny & zipp + pipp (movie version)
14:13 - MYM special 1
17:26 - MYM series (2,4,5)
26:02 - winter wishday (MYM special 2)
28:48 - TYT (loud volume warning)
32:38 - conclusion

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@icecreamcake5329
@icecreamcake5329 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I do wish Sunny(and perhaps this whole new generation of mlp) was handled better. But, I guess they can’t have amazing writers like Lauren Faust for EVERY generation of mlp. Sadly.
@Aelvir114
@Aelvir114 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes Lauren Faust, such an amazing writer…who only wrote the first 3 episodes… G4 was successful because most if not all the writers were good. G5 does have some good writers, like how Misty’s character arc is done splendidly well especially on Chapter 5. Easily the weakest character is Hitch, whose entire character got erased after the movie.
@icecreamcake5329
@icecreamcake5329 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t mean that the other writers weren’t skilled in their own ways. Lauren just laid the foundation for the show, yknow?@@Aelvir114
@BadHorse43
@BadHorse43 6 ай бұрын
They could, easily. There's more writing talent on fimfiction than in any show's writing room.
@IzzyMoonbow648
@IzzyMoonbow648 8 ай бұрын
I just wish that instead of spending all their time on Misty the writers would pay attention to the actual main character, Sunny. I feel like they didn’t know what to do with Sunny’s character after the movie so they made a completely new character to focus on instead
@turtletum
@turtletum 7 ай бұрын
Oh, I definitely agree with that. As much I don't like her overall character, at least in the movie.. she had a personality that you can follow, flaws and all. Now she's a stupid Neo-Confederate. 😅
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
This is true because there was no collaboration between the movie staff and the two shows, IDW comics, video games or even the toys. Still waiting for Sunny to defeat Sombra for the 4th or 5th time according to one toy card. The director and writers of the movie admitted there was no plan going forward. They JJ Abrams and Ryan Johnson'd us.
@zuzoscorner
@zuzoscorner 5 ай бұрын
and here i thought Zipp was the main character this entire time lol
@wadeyhyena1657
@wadeyhyena1657 6 ай бұрын
What bothers me the most is that after the movie, Hitch's role as a sheriff feels significantly reduced and it's apparent that Sunny has never respected his opinions, even when his worries are validated throughout the series, like with the giant fruits almost crushing everyone. I understand that the showrunners are trying to make Sunny similar to Twilight, but compared to the latter, she sucks. She barely apologised to Zipp after disrespecting her anxieties surrounding the Unity Crystals and Twilight's Warning, and telling Izzy that she "has magic" is a lousy way to make your friend feel better. She feels less like a supportive peacemaker who tries to advocate for equal rights and more like a naive self-entitled bitch who derives pleasure from being given praise and doesn't like to follow pre-established laws, even when it's things like trespassing or stealing. Opaline was right to insult her intelligence. She makes Minty look like a saint in comparison.
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
YES. I agree with this. And yeah, Minty should be the main character at this rate! XD
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
I just want to say that for all her faults and misplaced optimism I would gladly take that character from the movie back. At least she had POTENTIAL to be a character that learns and grows. MYM Sunny doesn't even have that. She is whatever the current writer needs her to be. Not what they want, what they need to move the story along or cap the ending with a super-powered self insert oc. She's just Pony Rey Palpatine. 😔 Only Misty matters now. Until they buck her up.
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
I definitely agree about wanting Movie Sunny back than the doppleganger in MYM. Also, I will be making a deeper character analysis about Misty now that MYM is "over".
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
@@turtletum I look forward to it!
@DragonianSheep
@DragonianSheep 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Nice
@austinchris19
@austinchris19 4 ай бұрын
He deserved to be in hell
@devonwhite4706
@devonwhite4706 11 ай бұрын
What a waste of a potentially good character. Thanks for nothing Hasbro, again.😒
@hackidreemurr
@hackidreemurr 5 ай бұрын
What upsetted me most about the Christmas special was that despite all the unplanned occurences, Sunny's plan still worked out perfectly, which 1) didn't make any sense since Pipp and Zipp's performance took 3 hours longer than planned AND they headed to Bridlewood to save Equestria from suffocating into snow. It wouldn't make sense timebased, if they really had SUCH a tight plan. And it's not a tight plan, if you have 3+ hours spare time. 2) Sunny didn't learn anything whatsoever and didn't grow as a character and the episode ended just like this, which is a questionable message for kids. Having disappointments and experiencing that not everything goes by plan is a huge part in character development, both in us as it is in fictional characters. The G4 episode "Once Upon a Zeppelin" (Season7) intrugued me so much because when Twilight missed the Northern Stars, it actually made me feel sorry for Twilight. Also, it made Twilight learn the lesson that it's important to stand to your own needs and not being such as peoplepleaser in the fear of disappointing people. And this character development didn't happen to Sunny. I'm actually starting to get concerned about Gen Alpha if I look at modern kids shows
@turtletum
@turtletum 4 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with this. I wish I didn't have to keep saying "this reminds me of a better G4 episode"; I'm really trying to give this show the benefit of a doubt because it's only fair. However, when there are characters that just don't learn anything and the writers are trying so hard to make it seem that they did, I feel really frustrated with that.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
You know, Sunny could have just been afraid of a pointy bone poking her in the eye. But no she chose to display the same irrational fears she had been fighting to dispel in other ponies 🤔 galaxy brained moment there, writers.
@salted__ketchup_
@salted__ketchup_ 2 ай бұрын
Sunny is like: "maybe im bad character but im the special one so fuck u"
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe 13 күн бұрын
It's bassiclly called "main character syndrome" 😂
@pastelskies99
@pastelskies99 3 ай бұрын
Sunny is basically "It's all about me!"
@sharaheartsixx
@sharaheartsixx 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god I painfully agree with this. Movie Sunny was fine but just like Hitch and Izzy, the show completely assassinated any hope for her.
@SMT-ks8yp
@SMT-ks8yp 6 ай бұрын
I see the failure of Sunny's character in the fact she is the embodiment of the G5's ideology. Listen to the MYM opening, watch how in Chapter 3 Izzy literally saved everypony with wishful thinking. Twice! G5 says that inside you there is a magical spark which you unly need to find to magically succeed at everything, and also everything that you when guided by that spark is good. Sunny already found her spark, which means that she cannot fail. That anything she deeply believes in must be right, and if anyone disagrees, they must be wrong because she feels like it. That restrictions are bad because they don't let you just glow and shine. That magical powers do not require any training and precautions, because they also come from sparks, and this is also why they manifest spontaneously when you try to suppress them: this is a metaphor for suppressing your magical youselfness. And Sunny turning into alicorn when she is all inspired and preachy is a blatant metaphor for "being yourself" too.
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
That is truly the main reason as to why I really dislike Sunny; I don't want to say 'hate' because using that word now is considered a death sentence (lol). Anyway, I just don't like how Sunny's perspective is just constantly pushed on others and everyone has to automatically agree without them being subconsciously aware about it; they aren't allowed to make individual, personal decisions and Sunny is usually in charge. I just wish there was a time that the G5 Mane 6 worked together in a way where it looks like real teamwork and not just a one-pony job with the power of magic combining in her pseudo-Alicorn abilities.
@SMT-ks8yp
@SMT-ks8yp 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum yes! ANG also teaches that other people don't have their own opinion, or they subconsciously agree with you but are brainwashed by evil demagogues who don't beileve in their own cause either. I mean, if the earth ponies' fear was so deep they listened to Sprout, of all people, why did they convert immediately after Sunny told them about restoring magic? The same Sunny who was supposed to be a freak and outcast.
@sweetdreams1028
@sweetdreams1028 5 ай бұрын
I honestly loved Sunny in ANG. With her smugness, songs, and relationships with the other characters. But MYM just made her boring. She’s not even the main character anymore. It’s like the writers of TYT and MYM don’t even care about Sunny. Then again, it doesn’t seem like they care about MLP at all with the damage they’ve done to not just G5 but G4.
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
True harmony begins like this we get a nice over head shot of Equestria playing the iconic my little pony theme before stopping at a sine that says something like school of magic for brilliant unicorns. Inside Luna is trying to make a ball flote in the air with no success Luna sits down at her desk dejected as the teacher tells her she's sorry. Somebody throws a wadded up piece of paper at Luna's head it asks what do you call a unicorn who can't do magic, useless. Luna groans as she opens her books and starts writing. When Luna gets home she is asked by her mom how her day was she tells us that Luna is adopted and that she and her father have watched Luna grow into a beautiful carrying pony and that no matter what they will always be proud of her. Luna says that no pony ever wants to be her friend because she doesn't have magic or a cutie mark after dinner she goes to her room and greets her pet crow swoop before she pulls out a book to read once upon a time in the magical land of Equestria there were two regal sisters who ruled together the elder raised the sun at dawn the younger brought out the moon at night thus the two brought harmony to the ponies but such happiness was not to last for the younger sister began to grow envious of her older sister ponies and creatures would come from far and wide to pay respect to her but everyone ignored her consumed by rage the younger sister took up her power of the night and vowed she would take the kingdom for herself. Having no other option the elder sister cast the younger one out there by eliminating the threat but at a terrible price harmony was broken and the land became dangerous however it is said that one day the young princess will return to her sister and harmony will once more be restored to the land. Luna puts the book down and goes over to her balcony window before going out and looking up at the moon and stars wishing she was special like the rulers next day she meets a cleaver pegasus named Starlight and a daring earth pony named Ember the village is attacked by Tirek who steels everyone's magic. Luna being the only unicorn without it isn't affected so she and her two friends go to get the magic back after they win Luna gains her magic for the first time and that is her we begin our new adventures restoring harmony to the shattered land and restoring Luna to the princess she is.
@dmclegg66
@dmclegg66 5 ай бұрын
The more I see of gen 5 the more I see what an anomaly gen 4 was it was never meant to be that good Lauren Faust made gen 4 like she did because she was tired of girl shows being crap. I loved Twilight Sparkle Because she was flawed but could admit when she was wrong.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
Did Unicorns d!e off from lack of magic and depression? Have you noticed that Bridalwood is only enhabited by maybe a dozen Unicorns? Pony kind as a whole is on the ropes but Unicorns face imminent extinction. 🤔 Misty maybe the 13th Unicorn left on the planet.
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
That's a possibility. I don't want to spoil about what happened in MYM if you want to decide to watch it, but it makes sense.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
@@turtletum and what cataclysm left 5 dragons and a single hatchling on the planet 🤔 the Griffons, the Yacks, the changelings, etc etc all gone. Even Fallout Equestria was more diverse and filled with hope than g5.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
I legit thought Izzy was going to be my fav for g5. I named my cat after her (then found out at vet he was a male) but then TYT happened. I thought it was a fluke. That the MYM Izzy would be better. No, 100% agree. She is far worse than Pinkie. Izzy is a psychopath that attacks a pony in the street to steal her earring and destroys public property. And I don't mean she spray paints or damages property, I mean bending a street lamp into a pretzel like sculpture. I kinda hate her sometimes. 🤔
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
I liked movie Izzy, a lot. Thought she was going to be my fav. Named my cat after her, later found out from vet it was an IzzHe 😂 but that matters not. TYT destroyed that character and MYM I don't even know. I only watched the first special and Izzy Does It. The special was embarrassing. The first episode was.. fine. She only got worse. Even Pinkie would not do the things TYT Izzy did. What a disappointment 😔
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, this is just me, but Izzy has gotten worse to a degree. In TYT, she has a song called the "Trash Song" as to how creative objects can be found in the dumpster; the only reason why she does this is because she was trying to fix Sunny's lantern (another continuity gap from the MYM special and this, btw).
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
@@turtletum and in same episode she ran Posey down in the street GTA style and stole a plastic earring for that stupid lamp. I hate that episode passionately. But it made me 100% sympathetic toward Posey.
@bonxvii
@bonxvii 4 ай бұрын
Ngl I felt like sunny was a bad replacement of twilight she didn’t have to do any work taking nothing serious not wanting to learn more about magic and just brushed off the danger that was happening around her nor did she care about her friends feelings while twilight did and studied for years to where she is now
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't think the staff know or care what being a sheriff entails. All Hitch does is fail, act stupid, and lose his son/pet constantly. This is actually a consistent character trait. The movie happened because Hitch failed at everything. If he was a competent sheriff Sunny would have spent time in jail for trespass and destruction of property. A competent sheriff would have either captured Izzy and Sunny or should they escape he would not have abandoned the town to his idiot deputy during the height of panic. Most incompetent law enforcement officer since Rosco P. Coltraine. And even Rosco wouldn't leave Deputy Enos Strait in charge. Sorry, DOH is super controversial now. I would use Smokey and The Bandit but Bufford T. Justice had a history of competent law inforcement before he started chasing Bandit. He also came back for 2 more movies. I'd even say SATB 3 was his movie. So yeah, just spell Hitch with a B at the beginning.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 5 ай бұрын
15:16 Oh sure, lasers beams are not dangerous at all. Really, Sunny is delusional and blind to everything that might contradict her pov. 19:23 Yeah, i hate so much that episode for making it seems like Hitch is overreacting (which he wasn't, Sunny was really disregarding everyone safety to have fun with magic) or like his restrictions were unreasonnables or would stop ponies from learning to use their powers safely. 29:09 To be honest, Pinkie pie was really toxic too sometimes. 32:09 Honestly, without Hitch, i wouldn't guess there is any laws in Maretime Bay because he seems to be the ONLY ONE to care about it.
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
Pinkie was definitely toxic in the show at times, especially emotionally manipulative or really pressuring towards someone's actions while not giving them a chance to freaking breathe. So yeah, I won't deny that at all. Also, I don't understand why Hitch is the only law enforcement around in Maretime Bay; Sprout is doing long-term community service, so he's not doing anything. It's really annoying that Hitch has to do all this work and yet Sunny is a literal (pseudo) ALICORN.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Yeah, i remember the quizz contest that Twilight and Pinkie participated at and Pinkie was completely disregarding Twilight desire to win the contest and throw random answers to questions she actually know she doesn't know the answer. And yet Twilight was portrayed as the villain for getting rid of her. Just because Pinkie just wanted to have "fun". But that doesn't give her the right to undermine other peoples goals. Or the episode with the donkey. Lol, there is not even a mayor in Maretime Bay, Hitch is literally the only representation of law and governement there.
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@efaristi9737 So, by that logic, Hitch is the second most powerful pony in Equestria. Also, yes, that episode annoyed me because of Twilight's character regression.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Well, that depends if you speak in term of raw powers or political power. raw power, Sunny win, even if that's debatable since i have never seen her do anything else beside bubles. She never cast once a offensive spell. And Hitch was quite efficient against Opaline. Political, Hitch is 1st one because there is no one else above him and Sunny isn't seen as the de facto leader of ponies, role that she actually refused. It's not G4 Equestria, in this timeline, being a Alicorne, especially a pseudo one, doesn't make you automatically a princess.
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
You wanna know my opinion instead of making a follow up series to gen4 they should have started all over again from scratch like with my little pony true harmony instead of a large group of characters they focus on one or two main characters the main character is a unicorn who has to overcome obstacles inorder to be redeemed in the end and regain her title as princess of the night.
@turtletum
@turtletum Жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued to know about the 'Princess of the Night'. Was it inspired by fan work?
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
@@turtletum no it came from my head
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
@@turtletum so basically since it's a reboot Luna would be the main character though she has no idea she's the long lost Alicorn she knows that the queen of the sun rules the world but she knows not that it's her sister so maybe via some anonymous tip or a forced quest Luna has to go on many adventures and defend many all in order to gain her once great power along the way she makes friends and enemies while not always a willing hero she succeeded due to her drive to do the right thing in the end.
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
@@turtletum of course since it's a reboot maybe they don't call her Luna at all instead they give her a different name, and she might be a unicorn who can't do magic then the premiere is her stopping some villain and then gaining her magic back
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
@@turtletum so what do you think of my idea for a gen six?
@risaswonderland1751
@risaswonderland1751 7 ай бұрын
I didn't mind any character in the movie. But in the series I didn't like Sunny anymore and eventually stoped watching because I felt like she wasn't getting a development. I mainly loved Zipp and Pipp but I couldn't keep watching because of Sunny.
@turtletum
@turtletum 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@hackidreemurr
@hackidreemurr 5 ай бұрын
2:08 Sunny in Omori be like: Am I a joke to you?
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot 2 ай бұрын
hitch deserves to be the alicorn of the series
@Heavilune
@Heavilune 7 ай бұрын
31:38 This is why I hate Izzy as a character in the movie. I really liked her, she was one of my favorite characters until mym and tyt. She literally commits a freaking crime and is let off the leash for it. I swear when I saw that episode my blood was boiling, in episodes I swear it seems she’s given the bigger end of the stick when it’s clear she’s screwed.
@turtletum
@turtletum 7 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with that
@Heavilune
@Heavilune 7 ай бұрын
@@turtletum I’m glad ya understand cause I swear I hear zero people talk about it!
@lovelyblossom_bee
@lovelyblossom_bee Жыл бұрын
Just earned a new subscriber :)
@drewmorris7686
@drewmorris7686 2 ай бұрын
She is just too sad (sad as in totally pathetic) to watch. I despise everything about generation 5, so very much.
@turtletum
@turtletum 2 ай бұрын
You're definitely not the only one. I wish G5 tried making likeable characters, but no. Now I've dedicated my time talking about how bad it is. 😂
@drewmorris7686
@drewmorris7686 2 ай бұрын
@@turtletum the only reason why I had foolish paid any attention to it was because I was hoping to see if Spike and Ember became beloved life mates as adults. These writers are not even trying.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
Of course Hearth's Warming is de@d. It was their celebration of founding Equestria and Equestria is de@d. If the US was wiped out in a nuclear war do you think we would still celebrate 4th of July? But yeah Winter Wishywashy Day is another special I'm glad I did not waste my time on.
@Aelvir114
@Aelvir114 9 ай бұрын
Personally I find she’s done decently well. Not the best but it could’ve been way worse. But I do wish her relationship with her father was explored more. It felt really substantial in the movie but the most you get of him is the new flashback of him with how Sunny got her cutie mark, ….and is voiced by Sunny for some reason. I know they can explore it well, as Misty in the same chapter is shown going through a very realistic portrayal of what happens when someone who was kidnapped as a child reunites with their real family. Easily the weakest character is Hitch, whose entire character got erased after the movie just so he can boil down to dragon dad.
@turtletum
@turtletum 9 ай бұрын
I agree with Argy and Sunny needed more time between the two because it’s something that makes it clear that she’s been heavily affected by her father’s passing. I also do like that Misty’s realism within her character development is crucial, especially in Chapter 5. However, while Misty has actually changed, Sunny hasn’t done much to actually change. The points in my video just represents how Sunny acts with others. Hitch is a great character in the film, but the only that changed about him was his personality and some principles that he has. Regardless of that, Hitch is still loyal, kind and reasonable in my opinion. He hasn’t done so much that Sunny did wrong.
@Aelvir114
@Aelvir114 9 ай бұрын
@@turtletum While Hitch is still loyal him being still reasonable is doubtful. He has done a lot of rash, and frankly idiotic decisions.
@PatriotMapper
@PatriotMapper 23 күн бұрын
Here’s the thing: I liked Sunny in ANG. Even if flawed, she was a charming character who made me feel nostalgic for G4’s energy. But then MYM had to f*ck it up and make her so bland, generic, and stupid for no reason.
@turtletum
@turtletum 20 күн бұрын
Even though her character still got me a bit annoyed, I won't deny that Sunny in ANG is much better. It probably could've helped if her ANG personality stayed within the show, but NOPE.
@floralfancy7814
@floralfancy7814 4 ай бұрын
Wow Sunny is selfish, controlling and manipulative.
@emmaelson6770
@emmaelson6770 11 ай бұрын
That song is banger
@sky-trevishere9638
@sky-trevishere9638 Ай бұрын
Here’s another gripe I have about Sunny and her “Alicorn” form. Alicorns, by the canon of the show (which is all established now that we have the entire series thus the canon.) There hasn’t been an alicorn for SEVERAL GENERATIONS. Meaning, the royal authority of an alicorn, the importance of an alicorn has been forgotten in this new society centuries after Twilight’s rule. Sunny going off on her own friend about being an “alicorn”, and “needing to have a good look to others” and acting like she has authority and important duties now as an alicorn doesn’t make sense. Even with the only other alicorn in existence, which is the evil character (I don’t even care to remember out her name), isn’t even a princess or anything, or even recognized at all by anyone. Which onto further proves that alicorns have otherwise been completely forgotten about. There is no alicorn to remember or care for in this newer equestria. An alicorn literally means nothing to the people, and like it was said in the video: NO ONE CARES. This is a gripe I have with this show. They should have just made new canon, lore and world instead of making it a continuation, and even so, Sunny needs a rewrite big time, she’s undeniably frustrating and her implying (or stating I don’t remember and I don’t care to go through the whole series again just to check) that she’s “picking up Twilight Sparkle’s legacy” is just… no. I swear twilight would have absolutely whooped her but and given her the hardest reality check. Because even twilight becoming an alicorn, she didn’t act any snobbier and empathized with her friends whenever they struggled with something. I don’t know, this show and the main character anger me. Because you can see the absolutely, simplest, and EASIEST way they could have written her that was likeable, but still heavily flawed character, and not have her be a total snob to people.
@turtletum
@turtletum 20 күн бұрын
I love this! Thank you for you thoughts. :3 Being an Alicorn is literally useless now, so it's really weird that the show (specifically Tell Your Tale) is trying hard to make sure that's Sunny's arc. That arc being Sunny is scared to be the LAST ALICORN. Not only was there no indication of her having this difficulty at all and that's one of the main things I hate about it: SHOW, don't tell. Like, if Skyros does exist and there's evidence about Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and/or Flurry Heart, I will flip a table. They could use it as a way to show how "truly important" Sunny is as an Alicorn, which in turn... wouldn't make sense based on what you explained. Twilight struggled so much after turning into an Alicorn from the first Equestria Girls movie all the way to the Season 4 finale; her finding the key to her self worth and being the Princess of Friendship just made me love her more. Sunny...has nothing of the sort. Yes, she wants to help others and make sure that others come to her for support, but...then what's the point of "friendship is magic" if she does everything on her own?? This happens when Sunny fights Opaline (the villain) -- TWICE. My gosh... I need to definitely make a video about this in the future or add it to my G5 retrospect video.
@sky-trevishere9638
@sky-trevishere9638 20 күн бұрын
@@turtletum Oh goodness that tell your tale episode… I just… that…. That’s not how it works, at all, or fucking ever 💀. Alicorns are not necessarily a breed/species that can go extinct. They are EARNED the title through some form or way. Thats why it’s called “earn your wings/horn”. Sunny being worried about being the last alicorn is so dumb, and changing the entire lore and canon of alicorns being a whole different species makes my brain hurt. Especially the fact that sunny completely and utterly destroys this lore. Sunny is a born earth pony, a pure blood earth pony, she also never actually gains her wings or horn… because they’re transparent, made of pure magic. Which is all the more confusing. Does she just, harbor alicorn magic?? If so, that means she isn’t an Alicorn, she just holds the power. Like Cozy Glow, she’s a Pegasus, but when she gains the magic in the final arc, she becomes an alicorn, but when she’s defeated and the magic is stripped, she’s not an alicorn. Compared to Twilight and Cadence and the other alicorns when they lose their magic… THEY LITERALLY KEEP THEIR WINGS AND HORN! Which all in all, concludes that Sunny isn’t a true alicorn, she just has the magic, which she gained at the end of the movie when she released the magic of the ponies… the alicorn villain saying shit about her being just like her and that she’s all alone or whatever at the end is so so dumb by then because by all intents and purposes, sunny isn’t an alicorn. I just… I don’t understand this lore. I don’t get it. I would get it if it’s OWN canon and ITS OWN WORLD but it’s not. They literally change preestablished lore because the writers couldn’t think of something fun do with it. Well writers here’s something! Maybe make it so that Sunny has to learn how to actually earn her wings, as in, become an actual alicorn, not have the glowy crap, and then, write it so that Sunny has to retrieve and revive Equestrian history to bring it back to what Equestria was or something, and how she feels pressure now having to be an alicorn and represent the importance of that title and how it’s important. I don’t know, something that can have Sunny learn the importance of an alicorn, and thus, have it so we actually can sympathize with her when she realizes the pressure that comes to her title and how she needs to revitalize the culture that was once destroyed. I don’t know, just make the viewers give us any reason to sympathize with your MAIN CHARACTER instead of making her someone so arrogant and completely unbearable. Now… about Cadence existing… well, there is her in a painting in one of the episodes at a wall, I don’t remember which one but you can google it. So feel free to start gripping the table lol.
@turtletum
@turtletum 20 күн бұрын
@@sky-trevishere9638 Because of this show making my brain cells pop, I literally forgot that Alicorns aren't breed and/or species that could go extinct. The fandom has been trying to still figure out if Celestia and Luna were naturally born Alicorns and by whom. Maybe that's how G5 kinda got away with destroying G4 lore based on unanswered questions, however, then Flurry Heart comes in, so I really don't know anymore... But yeah, that's why I just call Sunny a psuedo-Alicorn! I mean...I am not sure if you NEED a horn or wings for the anatomy to transform. I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any details, but if I am, please correct me! TT If anything Skyros could of being something like the United Nations to where all the current Alicorns have deep discussions pertaining to the future of Equestria, especially with whom "was" the ruler (Twilight). Opaline is so irrelevant and also breaks the lore, so my head keeps spinning.
@natehalter6256
@natehalter6256 9 ай бұрын
it's for kids of course i know that gaining hope is very challenging feat to even up hold something hard to lose something can lead to hopelessness and she was trying her hardest as the only alicorn in all the things that sunny has gone through and in her heart she still feel lost without her father so she always has her friends as a family and it can be hard while friends can be buzy too that can make sunny's heart break in two places she does have the element of harmony as hope and magic and somestimes she can feel hopeless and lost of magic if she just believe in her friends more like twilight did sunny would of been far more powerful than opaline not only that opaline would of went to the dragon lands to gain fire magic for opaline's own will than the battle would of been too intense and more amazing than twilight facing lord tierk as for lord tierk he also stoled magic for his own for him to get stronger just like opaline but no misty has failed many ways that only makes opaline very ferious too that's all i know i'm sorry if i broken the 4th wall with sunny friends by her side she would be twice as powerful if she study how magic of friendships works she would of been the new ruler that is how magic and hope works through sunny and sunny would be the most powerful deulsional alicorn ever lived to tell the amazing feats how sunny and her friends can make everything brighter for sunny to believe that friendship is magic with guidence of hope can make everything possible the funny thing is i'm doing the samething like sunny is doing i know nothing is easy if you believe in the positive outcomes everything will be brighter in the world that is the power of hope don't get me wrong i do enjoy sunny hopefulness i know sunny is not really a fighter when she has a kind heart for her to leave the battle seen with opaline i would of done the samething i don't like to end people on pc games on mutiplayer i would leave them be if they have enough because i don't like gamers getting sad or angry with my attacks so i just lose for them to be and to feel happy so i understand why sunny left the battle with opaline because sunny needed to save the dragon from all of sparky's fire magic was sucked out of him for opaline to regain her fire magic sunny made a alicorn shield for them to excape from opaline when opaline can easily excape can destory sunny without mercy if she wanted too but no when opaline just waited till they all left for her to gain more fire magic for her own because opaline knows how friendships can be powerful as ever.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 6 ай бұрын
OMG I'm only 12min in and I hate myself for watching this movie. I was supposed to be done with ponies after FIM 😡 but they scammed me into thinking g5 was worth 10 more years of my life!
@Queen_of_chaos
@Queen_of_chaos 7 ай бұрын
In the movie she was perfect but in MYM… ye-No 😂
@yamdepiscis1214
@yamdepiscis1214 3 ай бұрын
Tomando nota de la opinión de los fans sobre los defectos, incongruencias y demás cosas de ma G5 para mejorarlo en mi AU. Me gusta Sunny, no sé porque pero me gustan los personajes trágicos o también puede ser porque me gusta ver el lado positivo y el potencial que tiene un personaje y personalmente, Sunny tiene mucho que los escritores no aprovecharon. Asi que me encargare de mejorarla y darle desarrollo que se merece.
@shockkcloudd1852
@shockkcloudd1852 Жыл бұрын
I think grown adults are taking a cartoon way to seriously but it's not my life so have fun.
@turtletum
@turtletum Жыл бұрын
Life isn’t take seriously most of the time, so yes, I will continue to have fun ♪
@SpiritDetective06
@SpiritDetective06 6 ай бұрын
It's just me,or she's a rehash of Twilight Sparkle,since she was transformed into a alicorn due of a "special moment" that she made in the movie?
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, yes. Twilight Sparkle turned into an Alicorn because she knew about true friendship and not Starswirl. Sunny turned into an psuedo Alicorn because she brought everyone together in unification. Now, I think Twilight earned it more because friendship is what literally and figuratively defeats evil in their nation.
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792 9 ай бұрын
She was instantly my favourite character in the movie, because she is practical, kinda smart (not like twilight sparkle), sunny is mentally healthy (I like twilight sparkle but she has OCD and that makes it a bit um idk), sunny is a great leader in a way and reminds me of twilight sparkle in a way, sunny doesn’t give up on her dreams. The movie is supposed to be how sunny brings back magic :D
@turtletum
@turtletum 9 ай бұрын
I’m happy for you and I’m glad that Sunny is relatable to you. I don’t want to change anyone’s opinion about her character, but I do believe that Sunny’s flaws need to be taken into consideration. Either way, if you like Sunny, I respect that 🎉
@princesspinkiecloudy4971
@princesspinkiecloudy4971 Жыл бұрын
Sunny is actually my least favorite character
@turtletum
@turtletum Жыл бұрын
Same here; so much so that I made this video!
@maxstroberger5404
@maxstroberger5404 Жыл бұрын
Would you want to watch a show like what I described.
@Meshamu
@Meshamu 5 ай бұрын
26:34 Well, hey, good for them!
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@randomboy9059
@randomboy9059 Ай бұрын
I just realized that something very disappointing and jarring about the series is its flipping of the central theme of mlpfim: friendship being the strongest type of magic and how that would apply in an already magical society. It does this by making the main character live in a very disjointed/prejudice nonmagic world, making her feel like the only way to fix it is by bringing back magic, thus bringing back friendship and community that otherwise isn’t there. Friendship is magic being the theme of g4 to magic is friendship in g5 and them acting like it’s the same thing is so off putting to me idk
@turtletum
@turtletum 22 күн бұрын
Exactly! It definitely has its problems in regards to themes and morals within G5. They do not know if friendship is magic or if magic is friendship, so they keep pushing both of these ideas together. Unfortunately, G4 lore is pretty much "irrelevant" based off of what is implemented in the G5 lore and world building, not to mention the passing down unique Elements of Harmony; they were destined to be every single generation of 6 friends. In order to not repeat the same thing, EVERYTHING is flip flopped. I need to make a video about this, thank you. 🎉
@moviesmemesandstuff2759
@moviesmemesandstuff2759 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on G5 as a whole so far? Personally, I think it's absolutely terrible.
@turtletum
@turtletum Жыл бұрын
I don't *hate* G5 because that's a strong word; I've disliked it since the beginning and it's not just because "oh noooo it's ruining the legacy of G4". There are multiple reasons from the execution to the mediocrity that this entire generation pushes down our throats. Personally, I believe that majority of the fandom is just excited because they don't want to be detached from Friendship Is Magic. To be fair, some think that the show is great or even better than G4 itself. Anyway, I just do not see the potential anymore besides the character development in comic issues, but even that isn't going to be enough for me at this point. Even now, I only like half of the film; the only character I prefer is Hitch because despite his changes, I was able to adjust to his new personality. Sunny is my least favorite and she's basically the definition of G5 - obnoxious, impatient and not willing to change for the better.
@itsevatrendz6182
@itsevatrendz6182 7 ай бұрын
i dont see why people hates sunny..hasbro is just trying to inspire everybody although sunny wasnt the personality we were looking for i still like her and the mane 5..and also people hating g5 is incredibly offensive to me. im not saying you must like but in MY opinion hasbro is just trying to make sunny a character to inspire all of you.. and im not the only one who loves g5 other people do.
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
This video was never intended to hate Sunny. I know that Hasbro is trying to inspire others, but they already did that very well in Friendship is Magic. The writing of her character is just not something I agree with; I like to analyze characters whether or not I like them, but I don't *hate* her. That's a strong word.
@itsevatrendz6182
@itsevatrendz6182 6 ай бұрын
@@turtletum I understand though your not hating on sunny but other people hated sunny so much like just because She turned into an alicorn in 1 hour it isnt something to hate about like they just have to deal with it Not hate
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
@@itsevatrendz6182 well, I believe that I am the exception and would like to not be pushed into that category of people who deliberately hate on G5. I point out the flaws in her character, as much as I do with the show itself. If it seems like I am contributing to the problem, then please don’t watch my channel because I’m just trying to talk about my own perspective. Also, Sunny turning into an Alicorn was an issue that I needed to address because that’s not how a character grows; it takes time and to me, Sunny wasn’t ready.
@itsevatrendz6182
@itsevatrendz6182 6 ай бұрын
@@turtletum thank you but sorry for saying that i think your hating sunny i just sometimes get annoyed when people is hating on stuff like this
@turtletum
@turtletum 6 ай бұрын
@@itsevatrendz6182 I understand your concerns. But know that even though I dislike G5 and Sunny, the last thing I'd do is want to harass others with hate.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
Edit: why was I so aggressive💀💀 (Og) 12:38 - 13:33 …what💀 This whole section is probably the worst* (*really not that bad) take I’ve heard on G5 MLP I’ll edit this comment later maybe but seriously how did you make think these were good points*(*I retrospect the points weren’t completely horrible like I thought💀💀💀💀)
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
I don't really understand why but okay; yiu can explain your thoughts whenever.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum damn I wrote this late at night lmao idk why I was so aggressive 💀 sorry But I think it’s kinda weird to mention the laws sunny broke, besides breaking & entering & destroying private property, those seem like rather minor laws to break? Idk why it was important to mention prison break other than just to add to the “crime count” Also, you mention how “why does she want to bring back magic when people are doing fine” when…like they hate each other? Yeah they’re surviving, but shouldn’t they want to thrive as well? The earth pony’s were paranoid & scared of any other race (they all freaked out just by a unicorn walking into their town) & the unicorns are all sad & gloomy, the only one that is really thriving is the Pegasus town, but even then the royals were lying to everyone Yeah I was probably being little dramatic in my og comment
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@Furiitha_096 I understand your points and yes, I mentioned that Unicorns would most likely need to thrive to survive. However, what does hating each other have to do with magic returning? Passive racism still seemed to have existed even after magic was restored, so I think that with or without magic, they would thrive.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Yeah, that makes sense. Are you talking about the series when saying “passive racism still exists?” I only really watched the movie (there may have been examples of that in the movie but I may have forgot)
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@Furiitha_096 No, about the movie and the show. It’s not brought up as much in the show, but yeah.
@nebula288
@nebula288 2 ай бұрын
eone used all their budget to make this goofy ass character 💀💀💀
@josegonzalez-ii3vt
@josegonzalez-ii3vt 12 күн бұрын
Well I disagree. I hate g5 but one of it's very few saving graces is that I really liked the cast. Then again, that's like, my opinion. Great video bro
@turtletum
@turtletum 12 күн бұрын
@@josegonzalez-ii3vt Tis okay, opinions are opinions, y'know? Also, thank you. :3
@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp
@AlejandroGonzalez-ej4lp 7 ай бұрын
At least she's not annoying and doesn't waste unnecessary screen time.
@turtletum
@turtletum 7 ай бұрын
Touche 😂😊
@trentonallen6965
@trentonallen6965 Жыл бұрын
Come on people give sunny a break ! I think she’s beautiful and I love her 😊
@turtletum
@turtletum Жыл бұрын
And that’s completely fine! Lol
@itsevatrendz6182
@itsevatrendz6182 7 ай бұрын
yeah please shes trying to inspire all of you yet ya’ll just hate her instead..
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