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@CozyGlow625
@CozyGlow625 2 күн бұрын
Sunny barely engages in any action. She brings back magic, which is a nice feat, and defeats Opaline, someone who could have been defeated by an infant due to her sheer incompetentness. This is it. Sunny is.... present in the episodes for no principal reason. We also scarcely know anything about her or her interests. Not to mention that she is a watered down, copy paste version of Twilight Sparkle. Unengaging character. Though, she certainly is not alone in this. G5 is garbage.
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe 8 күн бұрын
Hitch used to be such a Chad the series ruined him 😮‍💨 (Also idc what the creator said it is the mane *6* not the mane 7)
@josegonzalez-ii3vt
@josegonzalez-ii3vt 21 күн бұрын
Well I disagree. I hate g5 but one of it's very few saving graces is that I really liked the cast. Then again, that's like, my opinion. Great video bro
@turtletum
@turtletum 21 күн бұрын
@@josegonzalez-ii3vt Tis okay, opinions are opinions, y'know? Also, thank you. :3
@PatriotMapper
@PatriotMapper Ай бұрын
Here’s the thing: I liked Sunny in ANG. Even if flawed, she was a charming character who made me feel nostalgic for G4’s energy. But then MYM had to f*ck it up and make her so bland, generic, and stupid for no reason.
@turtletum
@turtletum Ай бұрын
Even though her character still got me a bit annoyed, I won't deny that Sunny in ANG is much better. It probably could've helped if her ANG personality stayed within the show, but NOPE.
@sky-trevishere9638
@sky-trevishere9638 Ай бұрын
Here’s another gripe I have about Sunny and her “Alicorn” form. Alicorns, by the canon of the show (which is all established now that we have the entire series thus the canon.) There hasn’t been an alicorn for SEVERAL GENERATIONS. Meaning, the royal authority of an alicorn, the importance of an alicorn has been forgotten in this new society centuries after Twilight’s rule. Sunny going off on her own friend about being an “alicorn”, and “needing to have a good look to others” and acting like she has authority and important duties now as an alicorn doesn’t make sense. Even with the only other alicorn in existence, which is the evil character (I don’t even care to remember out her name), isn’t even a princess or anything, or even recognized at all by anyone. Which onto further proves that alicorns have otherwise been completely forgotten about. There is no alicorn to remember or care for in this newer equestria. An alicorn literally means nothing to the people, and like it was said in the video: NO ONE CARES. This is a gripe I have with this show. They should have just made new canon, lore and world instead of making it a continuation, and even so, Sunny needs a rewrite big time, she’s undeniably frustrating and her implying (or stating I don’t remember and I don’t care to go through the whole series again just to check) that she’s “picking up Twilight Sparkle’s legacy” is just… no. I swear twilight would have absolutely whooped her but and given her the hardest reality check. Because even twilight becoming an alicorn, she didn’t act any snobbier and empathized with her friends whenever they struggled with something. I don’t know, this show and the main character anger me. Because you can see the absolutely, simplest, and EASIEST way they could have written her that was likeable, but still heavily flawed character, and not have her be a total snob to people.
@turtletum
@turtletum Ай бұрын
I love this! Thank you for you thoughts. :3 Being an Alicorn is literally useless now, so it's really weird that the show (specifically Tell Your Tale) is trying hard to make sure that's Sunny's arc. That arc being Sunny is scared to be the LAST ALICORN. Not only was there no indication of her having this difficulty at all and that's one of the main things I hate about it: SHOW, don't tell. Like, if Skyros does exist and there's evidence about Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and/or Flurry Heart, I will flip a table. They could use it as a way to show how "truly important" Sunny is as an Alicorn, which in turn... wouldn't make sense based on what you explained. Twilight struggled so much after turning into an Alicorn from the first Equestria Girls movie all the way to the Season 4 finale; her finding the key to her self worth and being the Princess of Friendship just made me love her more. Sunny...has nothing of the sort. Yes, she wants to help others and make sure that others come to her for support, but...then what's the point of "friendship is magic" if she does everything on her own?? This happens when Sunny fights Opaline (the villain) -- TWICE. My gosh... I need to definitely make a video about this in the future or add it to my G5 retrospect video.
@sky-trevishere9638
@sky-trevishere9638 29 күн бұрын
@@turtletum Oh goodness that tell your tale episode… I just… that…. That’s not how it works, at all, or fucking ever 💀. Alicorns are not necessarily a breed/species that can go extinct. They are EARNED the title through some form or way. Thats why it’s called “earn your wings/horn”. Sunny being worried about being the last alicorn is so dumb, and changing the entire lore and canon of alicorns being a whole different species makes my brain hurt. Especially the fact that sunny completely and utterly destroys this lore. Sunny is a born earth pony, a pure blood earth pony, she also never actually gains her wings or horn… because they’re transparent, made of pure magic. Which is all the more confusing. Does she just, harbor alicorn magic?? If so, that means she isn’t an Alicorn, she just holds the power. Like Cozy Glow, she’s a Pegasus, but when she gains the magic in the final arc, she becomes an alicorn, but when she’s defeated and the magic is stripped, she’s not an alicorn. Compared to Twilight and Cadence and the other alicorns when they lose their magic… THEY LITERALLY KEEP THEIR WINGS AND HORN! Which all in all, concludes that Sunny isn’t a true alicorn, she just has the magic, which she gained at the end of the movie when she released the magic of the ponies… the alicorn villain saying shit about her being just like her and that she’s all alone or whatever at the end is so so dumb by then because by all intents and purposes, sunny isn’t an alicorn. I just… I don’t understand this lore. I don’t get it. I would get it if it’s OWN canon and ITS OWN WORLD but it’s not. They literally change preestablished lore because the writers couldn’t think of something fun do with it. Well writers here’s something! Maybe make it so that Sunny has to learn how to actually earn her wings, as in, become an actual alicorn, not have the glowy crap, and then, write it so that Sunny has to retrieve and revive Equestrian history to bring it back to what Equestria was or something, and how she feels pressure now having to be an alicorn and represent the importance of that title and how it’s important. I don’t know, something that can have Sunny learn the importance of an alicorn, and thus, have it so we actually can sympathize with her when she realizes the pressure that comes to her title and how she needs to revitalize the culture that was once destroyed. I don’t know, just make the viewers give us any reason to sympathize with your MAIN CHARACTER instead of making her someone so arrogant and completely unbearable. Now… about Cadence existing… well, there is her in a painting in one of the episodes at a wall, I don’t remember which one but you can google it. So feel free to start gripping the table lol.
@turtletum
@turtletum 29 күн бұрын
@@sky-trevishere9638 Because of this show making my brain cells pop, I literally forgot that Alicorns aren't breed and/or species that could go extinct. The fandom has been trying to still figure out if Celestia and Luna were naturally born Alicorns and by whom. Maybe that's how G5 kinda got away with destroying G4 lore based on unanswered questions, however, then Flurry Heart comes in, so I really don't know anymore... But yeah, that's why I just call Sunny a psuedo-Alicorn! I mean...I am not sure if you NEED a horn or wings for the anatomy to transform. I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any details, but if I am, please correct me! TT If anything Skyros could of being something like the United Nations to where all the current Alicorns have deep discussions pertaining to the future of Equestria, especially with whom "was" the ruler (Twilight). Opaline is so irrelevant and also breaks the lore, so my head keeps spinning.
@randomboy9059
@randomboy9059 Ай бұрын
I just realized that something very disappointing and jarring about the series is its flipping of the central theme of mlpfim: friendship being the strongest type of magic and how that would apply in an already magical society. It does this by making the main character live in a very disjointed/prejudice nonmagic world, making her feel like the only way to fix it is by bringing back magic, thus bringing back friendship and community that otherwise isn’t there. Friendship is magic being the theme of g4 to magic is friendship in g5 and them acting like it’s the same thing is so off putting to me idk
@turtletum
@turtletum Ай бұрын
Exactly! It definitely has its problems in regards to themes and morals within G5. They do not know if friendship is magic or if magic is friendship, so they keep pushing both of these ideas together. Unfortunately, G4 lore is pretty much "irrelevant" based off of what is implemented in the G5 lore and world building, not to mention the passing down unique Elements of Harmony; they were destined to be every single generation of 6 friends. In order to not repeat the same thing, EVERYTHING is flip flopped. I need to make a video about this, thank you. 🎉
@salted__ketchup_
@salted__ketchup_ 2 ай бұрын
Sunny is like: "maybe im bad character but im the special one so fuck u"
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe 22 күн бұрын
It's bassiclly called "main character syndrome" 😂
@nebula288
@nebula288 2 ай бұрын
eone used all their budget to make this goofy ass character 💀💀💀
@kwangyabot
@kwangyabot 2 ай бұрын
hitch deserves to be the alicorn of the series
@drewmorris7686
@drewmorris7686 2 ай бұрын
She is just too sad (sad as in totally pathetic) to watch. I despise everything about generation 5, so very much.
@turtletum
@turtletum 2 ай бұрын
You're definitely not the only one. I wish G5 tried making likeable characters, but no. Now I've dedicated my time talking about how bad it is. 😂
@drewmorris7686
@drewmorris7686 2 ай бұрын
@@turtletum the only reason why I had foolish paid any attention to it was because I was hoping to see if Spike and Ember became beloved life mates as adults. These writers are not even trying.
@yamdepiscis1214
@yamdepiscis1214 3 ай бұрын
Tomando nota de la opinión de los fans sobre los defectos, incongruencias y demás cosas de ma G5 para mejorarlo en mi AU. Me gusta Sunny, no sé porque pero me gustan los personajes trágicos o también puede ser porque me gusta ver el lado positivo y el potencial que tiene un personaje y personalmente, Sunny tiene mucho que los escritores no aprovecharon. Asi que me encargare de mejorarla y darle desarrollo que se merece.
@pastelskies99
@pastelskies99 4 ай бұрын
Sunny is basically "It's all about me!"
@PinkiePies_Pie
@PinkiePies_Pie 4 ай бұрын
Wow your really underrated for the videos you put out
@turtletum
@turtletum 4 ай бұрын
I try. Haha, but thank you. ^^
@PinkiePies_Pie
@PinkiePies_Pie 3 ай бұрын
@@turtletum yw :)
@floralfancy7814
@floralfancy7814 4 ай бұрын
Wow Sunny is selfish, controlling and manipulative.
@bonxvii
@bonxvii 4 ай бұрын
Ngl I felt like sunny was a bad replacement of twilight she didn’t have to do any work taking nothing serious not wanting to learn more about magic and just brushed off the danger that was happening around her nor did she care about her friends feelings while twilight did and studied for years to where she is now
@hackidreemurr
@hackidreemurr 5 ай бұрын
What upsetted me most about the Christmas special was that despite all the unplanned occurences, Sunny's plan still worked out perfectly, which 1) didn't make any sense since Pipp and Zipp's performance took 3 hours longer than planned AND they headed to Bridlewood to save Equestria from suffocating into snow. It wouldn't make sense timebased, if they really had SUCH a tight plan. And it's not a tight plan, if you have 3+ hours spare time. 2) Sunny didn't learn anything whatsoever and didn't grow as a character and the episode ended just like this, which is a questionable message for kids. Having disappointments and experiencing that not everything goes by plan is a huge part in character development, both in us as it is in fictional characters. The G4 episode "Once Upon a Zeppelin" (Season7) intrugued me so much because when Twilight missed the Northern Stars, it actually made me feel sorry for Twilight. Also, it made Twilight learn the lesson that it's important to stand to your own needs and not being such as peoplepleaser in the fear of disappointing people. And this character development didn't happen to Sunny. I'm actually starting to get concerned about Gen Alpha if I look at modern kids shows
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with this. I wish I didn't have to keep saying "this reminds me of a better G4 episode"; I'm really trying to give this show the benefit of a doubt because it's only fair. However, when there are characters that just don't learn anything and the writers are trying so hard to make it seem that they did, I feel really frustrated with that.
@hackidreemurr
@hackidreemurr 5 ай бұрын
2:08 Sunny in Omori be like: Am I a joke to you?
@sweetdreams1028
@sweetdreams1028 5 ай бұрын
I honestly loved Sunny in ANG. With her smugness, songs, and relationships with the other characters. But MYM just made her boring. She’s not even the main character anymore. It’s like the writers of TYT and MYM don’t even care about Sunny. Then again, it doesn’t seem like they care about MLP at all with the damage they’ve done to not just G5 but G4.
@dmclegg66
@dmclegg66 5 ай бұрын
The more I see of gen 5 the more I see what an anomaly gen 4 was it was never meant to be that good Lauren Faust made gen 4 like she did because she was tired of girl shows being crap. I loved Twilight Sparkle Because she was flawed but could admit when she was wrong.
@sharaheartsixx
@sharaheartsixx 5 ай бұрын
Oh my god I painfully agree with this. Movie Sunny was fine but just like Hitch and Izzy, the show completely assassinated any hope for her.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
Edit: why was I so aggressive💀💀 (Og) 12:38 - 13:33 …what💀 This whole section is probably the worst* (*really not that bad) take I’ve heard on G5 MLP I’ll edit this comment later maybe but seriously how did you make think these were good points*(*I retrospect the points weren’t completely horrible like I thought💀💀💀💀)
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
I don't really understand why but okay; yiu can explain your thoughts whenever.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum damn I wrote this late at night lmao idk why I was so aggressive 💀 sorry But I think it’s kinda weird to mention the laws sunny broke, besides breaking & entering & destroying private property, those seem like rather minor laws to break? Idk why it was important to mention prison break other than just to add to the “crime count” Also, you mention how “why does she want to bring back magic when people are doing fine” when…like they hate each other? Yeah they’re surviving, but shouldn’t they want to thrive as well? The earth pony’s were paranoid & scared of any other race (they all freaked out just by a unicorn walking into their town) & the unicorns are all sad & gloomy, the only one that is really thriving is the Pegasus town, but even then the royals were lying to everyone Yeah I was probably being little dramatic in my og comment
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@Furiitha_096 I understand your points and yes, I mentioned that Unicorns would most likely need to thrive to survive. However, what does hating each other have to do with magic returning? Passive racism still seemed to have existed even after magic was restored, so I think that with or without magic, they would thrive.
@Furiitha_096
@Furiitha_096 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Yeah, that makes sense. Are you talking about the series when saying “passive racism still exists?” I only really watched the movie (there may have been examples of that in the movie but I may have forgot)
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@Furiitha_096 No, about the movie and the show. It’s not brought up as much in the show, but yeah.
@zuzoscorner
@zuzoscorner 5 ай бұрын
and here i thought Zipp was the main character this entire time lol
@Meshamu
@Meshamu 5 ай бұрын
26:34 Well, hey, good for them!
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sweetdreams1028
@sweetdreams1028 6 ай бұрын
I was so happy when I watched ANG and was relieved that they didn’t make him into an idiot, like what me and others feared. But then, TYT and MYM came and took away everything I loved about his character. As Silver quill mentioned: “You know, he was more of a pillar of strength for the community when he was racist, I don’t like that.”
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 6 ай бұрын
15:16 Oh sure, lasers beams are not dangerous at all. Really, Sunny is delusional and blind to everything that might contradict her pov. 19:23 Yeah, i hate so much that episode for making it seems like Hitch is overreacting (which he wasn't, Sunny was really disregarding everyone safety to have fun with magic) or like his restrictions were unreasonnables or would stop ponies from learning to use their powers safely. 29:09 To be honest, Pinkie pie was really toxic too sometimes. 32:09 Honestly, without Hitch, i wouldn't guess there is any laws in Maretime Bay because he seems to be the ONLY ONE to care about it.
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
Pinkie was definitely toxic in the show at times, especially emotionally manipulative or really pressuring towards someone's actions while not giving them a chance to freaking breathe. So yeah, I won't deny that at all. Also, I don't understand why Hitch is the only law enforcement around in Maretime Bay; Sprout is doing long-term community service, so he's not doing anything. It's really annoying that Hitch has to do all this work and yet Sunny is a literal (pseudo) ALICORN.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Yeah, i remember the quizz contest that Twilight and Pinkie participated at and Pinkie was completely disregarding Twilight desire to win the contest and throw random answers to questions she actually know she doesn't know the answer. And yet Twilight was portrayed as the villain for getting rid of her. Just because Pinkie just wanted to have "fun". But that doesn't give her the right to undermine other peoples goals. Or the episode with the donkey. Lol, there is not even a mayor in Maretime Bay, Hitch is literally the only representation of law and governement there.
@turtletum
@turtletum 5 ай бұрын
@@efaristi9737 So, by that logic, Hitch is the second most powerful pony in Equestria. Also, yes, that episode annoyed me because of Twilight's character regression.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 5 ай бұрын
@@turtletum Well, that depends if you speak in term of raw powers or political power. raw power, Sunny win, even if that's debatable since i have never seen her do anything else beside bubles. She never cast once a offensive spell. And Hitch was quite efficient against Opaline. Political, Hitch is 1st one because there is no one else above him and Sunny isn't seen as the de facto leader of ponies, role that she actually refused. It's not G4 Equestria, in this timeline, being a Alicorne, especially a pseudo one, doesn't make you automatically a princess.