Why the Berco snowblower is useless

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Ryan Fisher

Ryan Fisher

Жыл бұрын

Here is a description of the problems I’ve encountered using the Berco/Bercomac vantage 66 I Purchased from Varner Equipment in Delta, CO and why it is useless on a UTV under certain circumstances.

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@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Varner Equipment took it back after charging me a "restocking fee" and shipping, I lost about $1500 on this. Disappointed Berco's warranty didn't cover all the failures.
@vincebelmonte7710
@vincebelmonte7710 9 ай бұрын
thank you for the update
@jpdunamislodge
@jpdunamislodge 4 ай бұрын
All good to know. Not waisting my time or cash. Thanks for the info
@bradandjulierich8175
@bradandjulierich8175 7 ай бұрын
The castor wheels on my Bercomac are mounted on a plate instead of arms. Still, they are bent and ruined with regular use because the don’t have a suspension to compensate for bumps and hills.
@smittysbuilds
@smittysbuilds 6 ай бұрын
we have 1 with our unit in the Army for out use to clear around our building, and same issue the bars bend. but we have good tools to fix it but shouldn't have too. and only a few years old. we have a enclosed compact tractor as well as snowblowers and shovels but the berco is just in the shop with our 900cc diesel side by side always requiring tensioner adjustments because they bend like yours and drags.
@scubatraveler100
@scubatraveler100 7 ай бұрын
Was about to pull the trigger on a new one. Thank you for your info. I'm going to look elsewhere.
@AlexG-wl1bj
@AlexG-wl1bj Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I have the 54” premium berco attached to a can am 1000. With tracks I live In the Rockies with a mile long dirt road full of pot holes uphills down hills, and mine works great. I’m glad I have the premium package looks like it’s a lot stronger than the frame on yours. I did Learn to drive a bit slower when driving back after iv finished.
@AuSnuff
@AuSnuff Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of how you built and modified that 30yr old blower shown on your Honda UTV. Love the engine rear mounted! What did you use for the drive shaft? More details please?
@daltonboucher8162
@daltonboucher8162 9 ай бұрын
That's for this video I was looking on buying one but now looking else where thumbs up on this video
@VikingShipExplorer
@VikingShipExplorer Жыл бұрын
Like you said, the blower and the engine are great, but unfortunately Berco dropped the ball on the back end of that unit for sure. The only way to make that usable is to cut off those arms with the wheels and modify that frame to be attached to the blower so the frame and blower lift off the ground as one unit. It would take some fabricating on your end to improve on their weak setup. Good luck with this and I hope you can get it back up and going. My 1973 44" Berco is awesome and built like a tank and is hooked to a 16 HP Garden tractor, And man can it throw snow. Cheers.
@RodAires
@RodAires Жыл бұрын
Nice work on your new blower! Do a video showing how and what you did plus it in operation. Thanks
@jpdunamislodge
@jpdunamislodge 4 ай бұрын
If I can snag one of these cheap I might consider cutting it up and configuring it like your home made rig.
@user-jn8fq8gq6i
@user-jn8fq8gq6i Жыл бұрын
I had purchased one of these last year for my John Deere Gator. I had exactly the same experience. I returned it to the dealer for a loss. This is meant to be used on 1 private driveway, and should be advertised as such. This is more of a toy than a $7500 piece of equipment.
@thebirdac
@thebirdac Жыл бұрын
First off, your not suppose to go 15 to 20 mph with this snowblower ,they say top speed is 6 mph .that wound be one of the issues your having with the wheel bearings and assembly ,by bouncing at a high rate of speed. I have a 54" berco with a 690 Honda engine now for 5 years and it's hooked up to a 700 arctic cat atv ,I understand it takes a lot of room to maneuver but I wouldn't get rid of it .I have weights in the back ,no chains in the front but I have some in the back.Works perfect for me.Just my opinion ,I wouldn't put chains in the front ,it's hard on the front end components .
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
Nowhere did i read that 6mph was the top speed. What is your source on that? I believe it but had I known that, I would have never bought it in the first place. 6MPH is walking speed.... might as well have a walk behind snowblower for a fraction of the cost.
@thebirdac
@thebirdac Жыл бұрын
@@RyanFisher1111 -Do not drive faster than 3 km/hr (2 m/hr) with snowblower on the ground. -Do not drive faster than 10 km/hr (6 m/hr) with the snowblower in raised position .That is on page 19 in my owners manual
@Boyo1956
@Boyo1956 Жыл бұрын
@@thebirdac I read that on the website as well.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
@@Boyo1956 in the berco promo video there's a shot of a guy going down the road at 20mph or so.... so....I thought it was good to cruz around on
@Boyo1956
@Boyo1956 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanFisher1111 Interesting. I didn't see that.
@dilloncook5140
@dilloncook5140 11 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan. Do you have a video of the homemade blower unit? I’m thinking of doing the same thing and was curious if you had any tips.
@hovermn
@hovermn 10 ай бұрын
Please do a walk around with your homemade blower. Looking to build one myself for an outlander 850 max. Thanks for the info on this one. Disappointing to say the least.
@rundeks
@rundeks 4 ай бұрын
WOW! Clearly this is horrible designed and they didn't think. Thank you for posting this so others don't get scammed. I can't believe they charged restock nor shipping in what is clearly not your fault.
@BH-ps6is
@BH-ps6is Жыл бұрын
I own the same unit , I agree the caster wheel set up is junk . I made up a 8 inch wide ski and mounted it under frame of blower around the same area as the wheels . I works great now as it slides on the ski .I even removed the wheels .
@GettingItDoneNorthOf7
@GettingItDoneNorthOf7 7 ай бұрын
I see you have chains on your front tires. Im guessing that gives you the best bite and traction on inclines and because of the weight of the everything?
@gregadkisson4115
@gregadkisson4115 Жыл бұрын
To put more weight on the UTV front wheels when raising the blower, lower the winch attachment point on the snowblower. do not use the factory pulley. Then when lifting the blower even slightly, it pulls the UTV down applying more weight to the front wheels. I adjusted mine for no weight on my Polaris Ranger or Jeep Wrangler as it was not needed on level ground.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, level ground, it works ok. But going up a steep section, or going down a steep driveway, it didn't have enough traction. Like you suggested: I even got a secondary winch to lift up on the whole assembly to try and get more weight pushing down on the front wheels which helped but not enough to overcome the 700# dead weight.
@xtrickster6556
@xtrickster6556 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Rammy snowblower better? From what I heard it is
@konstantinaslanidi601
@konstantinaslanidi601 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I was about to buy one, and now I won't. I agree that this design is ridiculous, and also completely fixable at factory stage.
@kellyolivier5776
@kellyolivier5776 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how one of these would do in a Roxor? Would they perform better with the weight of the Roxor?
@alaskabarb8089
@alaskabarb8089 4 ай бұрын
I think you could have a nice side business building custom snowblower units for UTVs. Me first!
@mattdecook1391
@mattdecook1391 10 ай бұрын
Please make a video on your snowblower build! I am in the process right now and any help would be appreciated! Cheers!
@thelews4
@thelews4 Жыл бұрын
To stop the eyebolts or turnbuckles from "unwinding" put a bungee cord through the holes between the two of them, side to side and they will stay put.
@christiankristiansen
@christiankristiansen Жыл бұрын
I think you need to compare the berco to the smal walk behind blower you have. Those casters are designed for maximum 10km/h so i dont think they would work for driving long distances. I agree with it having poor turning radius. Have you looked at the ramy snowblower? I think it would work better for you. If you didn't already have the one you built yourself.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Rammy looks like a viable option. The blower is only 48" wide plus wings and it's a 13hp motor. It might be a little undersized for the big snow storms I get but I bet it functions like advertised. And NO sheer pins! Scandinavians know snow. I sure would like to try one.
@timmcgrath8742
@timmcgrath8742 Жыл бұрын
I'm no electrician, but that wiring loom looped round the back of the A-frame looks wrong- would in not be better in front of the post rather than behind? It looks as though there is not much slack in the cable and that's going to put pressure on the connections . You said that it was pulled out of the connectors and you needed to fit a new loom? How exactly was the loom pulled out? That's 'dead' space there behind the auger, nothing should be getting in behind there unless you are driving into bushes or you are going so fast that snow is building up in front of the auger and spilling over the top into the space between the auger and the bumper of the ATV. As to the bent radius arms on the blower, I've seen that happen when equipment has not been raised high enough and the front end of the ATV dips and the equipment comes into contact with the road surface at speed- like say a pothole when driving fast. Shock load is magnified by speed, leading to greater force, though you are correct in saying that this could be reduced by the addition of a cross brace that's also connected to the A-frame of the winch pulley. Like others have said, your video would have benefited from a walk-around of the device fitted to the ATV you used it on, with shots of it both lowered and in the fully raised position so viewers can see the ride height and its distance from the bottom of the auger housing and jockey wheels to the surface of the road. That would tell us all how much capacity the unit has for rough ground in the raised position. You also never mentioned if you were using ballast in the back of your ATV to counteract the weight of the blower. That looks to be a fairly heavy unit and is going to make the entire system of blower and ATV 'see-saw' on the ATV's front axle. This would also make the rear axle become light when driving fast on uneven surfaces, adding to the already existing issue of 'bouncing' blows already mentioned to the blower's jockey wheels. I would say that you would need almost the blowers weight in/on the back of the ATV, above or just beyond the ATV's rear axle to counter this.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the wiring routing isn't the best imo. I agree, it was probably shock load that bent the arms. I did use ballast in the back which helped but not enough to overcome the other issues.
@dukesilver2019
@dukesilver2019 Жыл бұрын
Im on my second Berco. !st went over 20 years with nothing but a bent auger. Built like a tank.
@wdrdiyman1674
@wdrdiyman1674 Жыл бұрын
Two questions: why did you buy one when you had already built one which worked fine ?? And did you not notice any issues with the Bercomac design compared to your design ?? Show us your snowblower in action. Thank you !!
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
The one I built is only 48" wide, the utv is 60", the chute is manually controlled on a cable that doesn't work well.... so there are issues on the one I built that need resolving. I was hoping this 66" bercomac would be an upgrade but it has even worse design flaws that make it unusable for my application.
@yamguy33
@yamguy33 Жыл бұрын
Got more info on the blower you build for the utv??
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
It was made by Erskine, for Polaris in the 90's. Super hard to find any info or pics online. Must have gone out of production before the internet. It was for a 4 wheeler hence the 48" width. I extended the sub frame, fabed some custom mounts to bolt it to the utv frame, exteded the driveline with 1" bar and tossed the old 13hp briggs and put in a 670cc predator. Now, it runs well but it eats belts and and the clutch gets overwhelmed but I have a new double belt clutch and pully I'm going to try.
@cumulusvapes7
@cumulusvapes7 3 ай бұрын
Looks strong enough to plow an indoor warehouse 🤔🤨 Should have bought the outdoor version instead
@kenfitzgerald716
@kenfitzgerald716 Жыл бұрын
You should make a video of the one you built…..
@hartstudebakerkid
@hartstudebakerkid Жыл бұрын
Those are low speed castors and the mounts need bracing, 7k is nuts. It might work well for a small four wheel drive tractor with a FEL but not enough hp to run a blower. Make a quick attach to replace the front bucket.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
I think the HP is fine for up to 20" of snow if it's freshly fallen. But yeah, the transporting system is junk and makes it unuseable. It would work better on a front end loader as you say, then I could pick it up as I transport it but if I am going to use a tractor, a PTO driven system like I have is much better and more robust.
@hartstudebakerkid
@hartstudebakerkid Жыл бұрын
@@RyanFisher1111 Tractors under 20 PTO hp can not run much of a snowblower which is why I use a blade. This would work fine for them in a mount.
@jdkrxw
@jdkrxw Жыл бұрын
Pretty easy to see why the Berco subframe and wheels failed. I'd like to see how you're powering the other blower.
@lb969
@lb969 Жыл бұрын
You do realize that's the stock engine that comes on that model, right?
@OleBentel
@OleBentel Жыл бұрын
Just a theory: If this was installed on the Honda UTV to the left of the Berco snow blower, the UTV frame and the snow blower sub frame came into contact, and this resulting in overloading the arms and the bearing in the wheel. And why the bearing on the left side? Because when you sit offset in the UTV, you are on the left side.
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
The blower floats up front, just connected by chains, the utv doesn't bare any weight up front... so I don't know. If I used it a couple more days, the other bearing would probably have gone too.
@crossover8634
@crossover8634 Жыл бұрын
I think what Ole is getting at is the berco frame floats up and down with the hitch at the back being the pivot point. You mentioned there being a lot of hills. Would it be possible that a steep enough up hill angle cause the berco frame to raise high enough to bottom out under the UTV causing the weight of the utv to rest on the berco frame/ casters.
@jamesanderson2176
@jamesanderson2176 Жыл бұрын
The manual states "Do not drive faster than 3kmh when in operation/10kmh in the raised position. If you were trying to get to somewhere 5 miles away in 15 minutes, that's >30kmh average.
@Dave-df1vu
@Dave-df1vu Жыл бұрын
i had a berco vantage 66 i paid over 6 grand for it was a piece of junk too heavy for my side by side and kept shearing pins and wheels bent was a smooth gravel drive way i ended up buying a rammy it has never failed to run and nothing has bent or broke. be very waryty of berco vantage 66 as far as i am concerned it is a piece of junk factory was of no help. i had it one season. well only worked for one day before it bent and wouldnt turn over priced junk for my hard earned money i lost money wheni sold it to a machine shop who fixed it they said it still isnt all that good
@chrism2611
@chrism2611 5 ай бұрын
What kind of sunglasses you wearing?
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 4 ай бұрын
%100 is the brand
@alittlebitofeverything5090
@alittlebitofeverything5090 Жыл бұрын
Just came across your video. This really sucks, I've seen how expensive they are. It's almost like they should have made them only for tractors or equipment with a bobcat quick attach.
@goofyfarms8475
@goofyfarms8475 Жыл бұрын
I need a pair of those sunglasses. What are they?
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
"100%" is the brand name
@cowboy6591
@cowboy6591 6 ай бұрын
A good welder can fabricate a fix for that easy.
@lyman135
@lyman135 7 ай бұрын
How many freaking snowblowers do you need/ how much money do you have tied up in them?
@468delray
@468delray Жыл бұрын
Berco unit itself are probably the best on the market, but that setup has to be the worst designs. thanks for posting.
@rogerwhiting9310
@rogerwhiting9310 7 ай бұрын
I wish I never bought one. It went back to the dealer TWICE and they say it's perfect. It can't remove 50% of the snow that my 8hp walk behind can! I try absolutely CREEPING down my driveway with 6 inches of snow...and it bogs down and stalls. I bought a 6 foot $9000 snowblower to IMPROVE my snow removal...not cut it in half! Factory is no help...it simply CANNOT process enough snow. I was lucky to get $4000 for it...and used it 3 times. They should be run out of business. Absolutely a product that doesn't work
@Themachinewon
@Themachinewon 5 ай бұрын
Money back or sue, hate to say it that way..
@danyoder3534
@danyoder3534 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a high priced boat anchor
@jwjco
@jwjco Жыл бұрын
Berco ,, Like pushing a chain
@joshbutterfass5251
@joshbutterfass5251 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason it failed is because of the motor between the wheels it’s heavy and vibrates as you are using it
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
I think small dips in the the road cause it to bounce up and down and the sheer weight (800lbs) cantalievered on those caster wheels easilly bends the wheel supports and blows out bearings. They would probably work fine moving it around a driveway carefully but don't drive down the road, it's not strong enough. It should be though for $7K.
@frotobaggins7169
@frotobaggins7169 Жыл бұрын
I think most of the problem is because the caster wheels are behind the motor rather than between the motor and the actual blower so the weight is cantilevered out over the castors. Add in some bumps at speed and that is a good amount of pounding force. Moving the castors forward would help. Also as Ryan mentioned, the total lack of any kind of gusset or brace is definitely a weak design. Some simple gussets and a brace would alleviate some of the load on the curved support arms and more evenly distribute it.
@matthewkirichkow5279
@matthewkirichkow5279 7 ай бұрын
But it has a good motor on it.
@unit1393
@unit1393 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like you didn’t buy the right equipment. You need commercial grade stuff
@JeffWilson-zy5kp
@JeffWilson-zy5kp 6 ай бұрын
What are you using now on your side by side?
@doomman700
@doomman700 7 ай бұрын
Yea those bearings are not made to run the road. You bought the wrong machine for the application.
@csaa1980
@csaa1980 5 ай бұрын
Come on Berco, this is a $7-8000 unit. I can buy a tractor blower or skid blower for way less with a bulletproof design. Will not waste my money. Total BS on the restocking fee.
@johnhenryholiday4964
@johnhenryholiday4964 8 ай бұрын
Massively under engineered.... simple really...
@flashbazbo3932
@flashbazbo3932 3 ай бұрын
Poor design. Even worse customer support. Berco needs to step up or suffer the avoidance the buyer will seek after seeing this video. More engineering went into the home made unit that into the Berco unit. This Berco design is clearly a disaster.
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203 Жыл бұрын
It’s not meant or designed to go down a road at 20mph!! You bought the wrong system for your application ; simple
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 Жыл бұрын
It’s a horrible cheap design 👎👎👎👎💩
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203 Жыл бұрын
@@daleolson3506 maybe so I believe using it as marketed you would have no issues!
@frotobaggins7169
@frotobaggins7169 Жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying and maybe you are right but on the other hand, you don't buy a utv to clear your driveway any more than you would by a plow truck to clear your driveway. The utv is designed for longer distances and larger properties, what good is the blower if you can't use the vehicle to go anywhere faster than 6mph? just get a tractor at that point. Designing this blower to only travel at 6mph is like designing a snow plow to only travel at 20, what good would it be.
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203
@droneservicesoftheamericas4203 Жыл бұрын
Well many people DO buy UTV’s for other purposes but then decide to add a plow or a blower. Same with plow truck; have the truck buy a plow instead of a whole other machine.
@doomman700
@doomman700 7 ай бұрын
@@frotobaggins7169 sure people buy plows to do their drives.
@cmason5203
@cmason5203 6 ай бұрын
poor engineering
@dunderland241
@dunderland241 Жыл бұрын
I never heard someone talk themselves up so much. Sounds like you haven't done your research. And sounds like user error and abuse
@RyanFisher1111
@RyanFisher1111 Жыл бұрын
super helpful comment..... so insightful
@user-ng3qv7rx9f
@user-ng3qv7rx9f 6 ай бұрын
You should listen to yourself...uhm...uhm...uhm...uhm...uhm
@jamessantiago9724
@jamessantiago9724 5 ай бұрын
I'm mounting 3 push behind snowblowers on my atv plow soon😁
@johnserrano9689
@johnserrano9689 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's utter trash, what an insult to American Made...I'm looking at these units and I was extremely impressed untill I just found this video. Good on you doing the right thing for us Man, where ever you got that unit from I understand he's just a messenger per-say but he made money off you so he better be a dam warrior to make it right for you
@barryk8969
@barryk8969 6 ай бұрын
For a guy who owns umpteen snowblowers and apparently was born operating one, he doesn’t seen to have any idea about using the proper tool for the job.
@raymondj8768
@raymondj8768 Жыл бұрын
they need thicker freekin steel that looks cheesy af !!! thats just a bad design
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