Why the Eldar are the Biggest Weebs in Warhammer 40,000! (feat. Pancreasnowork)

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29 күн бұрын

Check out Warhammer 40,000 Tacticus here! play.tacticusgame.com/gaijin-... I've done a lot of cultural analysis of how factions in 40k do or don't mirror Japan as a culture, because that's the brainrot that I suffer from. However, with the help of Pancreasnowork, I think I've found THE biggest weeb faction in the entirety of the Warhammer 40,000 universe!
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@GaijinGoombah 27 күн бұрын

Yeah I had NO idea that Eldar could be connected to shintai but here we are! Be sure to check out Warhammer 40,000 Tacticus too! I unironically love the goofy ork squad that I've been building up! play.google.com/store/apps/details?hl=&id=com.snowprintstudios.tacticus

@alexandrudorries3307 27 күн бұрын

Kinda surprised you didn’t at least touch on Aeldari Exodite world spirits when talking about parallels to mitama. Might not be enough for a full video, but the way that world spirits can switch between at least two aspects of nature (beneficence and ferocity) to meet the needs of the planet’s pointy-eared inhabitants is another delightful little coincidence. Plus, Mr. Pancreas just did an extended video on why power rangers riding dinosaurs are neat for a fun little crossover tie-in. Personally though, as a fan of the Yakuza-like denizens of the Dark City of Commoragh, I think that the Drukhari can also be looked to as a wonderful showcase of some of the less savory aspects of Japanese culture. Specifically the stereotypes relating to seeking distraction as an escape from toxic work culture, a rich history of crime bosses with connections to industrial production, and far too many tentacles…

@Maxislithium 27 күн бұрын

WHAAAGH!! That's all I got to say.

@Dracobyte 27 күн бұрын

Thank you for another great video!

@pancreasnowork9939 27 күн бұрын

RAAAAHHHHH ELDAR RAAHHHHH IYANDEN RAHHHHHHH IM IN THIS ONE Eldar are nice because I like them though

@GaijinGoombah 27 күн бұрын

And that's the only reason?

@pancreasnowork9939 27 күн бұрын

@@GaijinGoombah The factions I like are cool and nice and lovely and everyone else is mean and rude and dumb

@DetectiveLance 27 күн бұрын

As we have seen on your channel, and when you argue on LoreCrimes, y'all are just a major simp for elves! Except Sun Elves in Elder Scrolls.

@cobbil 27 күн бұрын

@@pancreasnowork9939 I agree. Morathi-Mommy, err, Mommy-Khaine, uuum, Morathi-Khaine is one of my favorites.

@BeaglzRok1 27 күн бұрын

Average Eldar enjoyer.

@joo-hwanjun1684 27 күн бұрын

“A dying race” … I have no idea why Japan’s declining birthrate was the first thing that came to mind 😅

@powerist209 27 күн бұрын

Well, not in 80's when Eldar appeared in 40k. Like it was "Japan will take over the world" (with tinge of yellow-peril that either appropriated as good thing or unaware of it in second-hand transfer).

@vustvaleo8068 27 күн бұрын

"my brother is a giant robot and I have to pilot him"

@TheXell 27 күн бұрын

"Get in the Wraithguard, Shinjael!"

@carlzerris6566 27 күн бұрын

Isnt that literally Gundam Aerial in a nutshell?

@Bob-bs9ok 26 күн бұрын

@@carlzerris6566yes

@sharzinlalebazri5673 27 күн бұрын

If we were gonna make the most accurately Japanese faction in a fantasy setting, it'd just be a bunch of overworked salarymen and office ladies who spend 90% of their lives in office cubicles.

@manticore6963 27 күн бұрын

So the imperial Administratum.

@seand.g423 27 күн бұрын

@@manticore6963 I mean... 🤷‍♂️

@DetectiveLance 27 күн бұрын

@@manticore6963 Fuuuuuuuxk, that hits hard. Overly emphasis on cowtowing to seniority, a thousand tin pot dictators that run their divisions with every intention of sticking to tradition.

@patrickmcginty3234 27 күн бұрын

In Fantasy terms, probably Bretonnia ironically enough.

@dretchlord873 18 күн бұрын

@@DetectiveLance A tradition that has proven to work. Unless you would rather the diversity hires that have no record, waste company money, and can get you fired with bogus allegations. The Japanese work themselves to death but at least they work

@Masamune84 27 күн бұрын

I personally never thought seeing the Eldar from a Shinto side of things. Good video Gajin, great food for thought

@willkuehler8918 27 күн бұрын

I painted up the Avatar of Khaine as Fierce Deity Link so either I was halfway to thinking of this video or I’m just a massive nerd.

@everettcolby8976 8 күн бұрын

I need a picture of this asap

@willkuehler8918 4 күн бұрын

@@everettcolby8976 Well I say I painted the Avatar. What I meant is I started painting it and then got distracted like with most of my models (Guilliman took me almost eight months to finish). I have it about half way done and have painted the face with the Fierce Deity markings already.

@arquentur6226 27 күн бұрын

I'm not into Warhammer, but I am a Tolkien nerd, and I love pointing out to my Warhammer player friends that the name "Eldar" comes from the Tolkien Legendarium. It was the elves name for their own race and means "People of the Stars". Fitting for literal space-elves. 😂

@Astronometric 20 күн бұрын

Oh, old school warhammer fans know this very well. GW tried to copyright eldar and another bunch of Tolkien vocabularies and obviously failed in doing so. That is why a few year ago GW changed them into Aeldari and renamed all Age of Sigmar races to avoid using words like elves, dwarfs and orcs.

@arquentur6226 19 күн бұрын

@@Astronometric I had no idea! Thanks for the cool info. 🙏 I'm definitely gonna look more into that. Sounds interesting!

@mushputato 17 күн бұрын

Despite it officially now being the legally-distinct 'Aeldari', most of the community I've encountered still uses Eldar as the go-to term. Which is a credit to Tolkien and his awesome works, which pretty much founded... All of fantasy as a genre. You really can't oversell the weight of that kind of influence, I can't think of any writer that comes close.

@arquentur6226 16 күн бұрын

@@mushputato facts

@mosesborras3221 27 күн бұрын

13:30 the kami is having little too much fun

@leoechoirl9412 27 күн бұрын

I'd love to see one of these videos covering my favourite robot skeletons, the necrons. They obviously wear their egyptian influences on their sleeve but I feel like their empire trying to regain its footing in a totally new galaxy after a long period of sleep is very reminiscent of Japan adjusting to the open world after ending their isolation. Plus, the ongoing feud between the Silent King and Imotekh feels very much like an inversion of the Boshin War, with a respected military leader rebelling against the leader by birthright as opposed to the other way around in Bakumatsu period Japan. It'd be nice to see someone with more knowledge give their thoughts

@TheFatalcrest 27 күн бұрын

10:35 😂 "im sorry Inya we need this mech *clicks pistol*"

@parkermaisterra8532 27 күн бұрын

Does anyone else think that the concept of Shintai can also apply to the Adeptus Mechanicus? Cause when Gaijin was explaining the concept I could help but think about Machine spirits. Meanwhile the tech-priest is someone who is suppose to appease the machine spirits housed in the machines then it’s possible after they die they achieve a limited form of immortality via becoming a machine after their deaths as shown in the game Mechanicus

@milanmarkovic2721 26 күн бұрын

Wonder if Gaijin Goombah will see this comment because it is a great idea.

@cegesh1459 25 күн бұрын

Less so, shintai aren ai (machine spirits are ai).

@Loron20 27 күн бұрын

Excellent video. And a connection I would never have seen myself. But Spirit Seer = Shinto Priest fits so well.

@ElGordoBandito 23 күн бұрын

There’s also a lot of neopagan influence in Aeldari culture, the most on-the-nose example being their depiction of triple goddess. The life cycle of the maiden, mother, and crone is very important to their culture and even the basis of naming the planets from their fallen empire.

@drow_Lilith9940 27 күн бұрын

always fun to see Pancreasnowork around

@digunder14 27 күн бұрын

is kind of funny cuz orks and eldar from my understanding were created as part of the same army in that event called the world in heaven, the orks ancestors being the rank and file soldiers, and the eldar being the elite

@milanmarkovic2721 26 күн бұрын

Yeap, both created to fight Necrons and C'tan.

@hauntorthegiraffebiscuit 25 күн бұрын

As a Pancreas fan who was a casual Aeldar enjoyer that had their Iyanden Apreciation Gene activated, the Tori gate they have as their symbol was about as subtle an influence as I’d expect from GW, especially for Aeldar. Also, always love the obligatory FTL ost usage when establishing what your Warhammer lore video essay is going to be about lol.

@IridiumSnake 25 күн бұрын

"Some Eldar units are inanimate objects possessed by the spirits of dead Eldar." Necrons: "Are we a joke to you?"

@Astronometric 20 күн бұрын

Necrons don’t have souls. Their souls all got devoured by the C’tan when they became robots. They are just digital copies of the original personalities and memories.

@2Potates 27 күн бұрын

I misread the title as "The BIGGEST dweebs in Warhammer 40,000!"

@JMObyx 27 күн бұрын

Heh

@TheXell 27 күн бұрын

Nah that's the Thousand Sons.

@TheLordofMetroids 27 күн бұрын

Also accurate for Eldar.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle 26 күн бұрын

@@TheLordofMetroids no that would be the readers and players

@TheLordofMetroids 25 күн бұрын

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Also accurate, I am a massive dweeb.

@zeroakira584 26 күн бұрын

I think the fact that most Eldars spend their time meditating to calm their emotions also relates to real life bhuddism where monks will also do the same to abbandon all mortal 's sinful needs. Eldars need to do this in order to not to fall to Chaos and prevent themselves from a being noticed by Warp's creatures.

@Dracobyte 27 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot for this amazing video collaboration! You two are awesome.

@billybobjoe1335 27 күн бұрын

Not at all surprised you did a “did somebody say elves” like joke for PancreasNoWork

@draco84oz 25 күн бұрын

“When was the last time you saw an elf with a big-a** sniper rifle?” Ghost Sniper of the Retribution of Scyrah …and now I’ve just introduced him to the Iron Kingdom and Warmahordes. (Who would be the Japanese in that setting?)

@carloss3499 27 күн бұрын

12:00 That music in the background thats insaneintherainmusic neon dynasty.

@dejaypage1575 27 күн бұрын

Cool and educational about the part of this series that really showed the “Nippon” aspects. Honestly I don’t think I can *afford* the Warhammer sets and I don’t got a place to put all of the bought pieces but glad this series is making you happy, Gaijin ^^

@chrisdiokno5600 27 күн бұрын

Speaking of, the Scythes of the Emperor are ninja as hell Space Marines

@wolfdeltanine 27 күн бұрын

Kind of saw the Japanese inspiration back when I started playing them in 3rd Ed and use Japanese naming conventions for mine. Love seeing it confirmed and glad you both had fun doing this. Can't wait for part 2.

@driftingswordsmanzer 27 күн бұрын

Eshin clan mentioned wooooo!!!! Man 40k lore is so metal.

@KhoaTran-md5ou 26 күн бұрын

One funny thing about the tao... that is litterally what we call Chinese in Vietnamese the "tàu" aka ship since they came to VietNam in a big migration using 3 ships, we call them 3 ship ("ba tàu") or just ship ("tàu").

@KamikazeMedias 23 күн бұрын

5:38 - he finished the ad. you are welcome

@MattCaliber 27 күн бұрын

While watching the video, I couldn't help but look back at the Yu Yu Hakusho anime. More specifically, the two main sources of power Yusuke uses. Both his spirit power and later on demon power. Maybe there is a connection to Nigimitama and Aramitma.

@nickpanther8833 27 күн бұрын

No joke I just re-watched the year old cross over episode of yall on pancreas channel

@daltonloges99 18 күн бұрын

The Shintai transport that had what looked like the result of Lorena Bobbitt's wrath honestly caught me off guard.😂

@MythrilZenith 27 күн бұрын

Thought this was a Glitzdakka video for so long, but this still works out. Love ya GG!

@blackvial 26 күн бұрын

That shrine where all those soldiers are enshrined just gave me an idea for an anime with a necromancer MC

@squeethemog213 18 күн бұрын

This was a fantastic video guys. Thanks for making it and in turn making me like Eldar a bit more. On a different note you've triggered my curiosity on sumo. Would love to see a vid on them some day 🤩

@ChaseDaOrk3767 27 күн бұрын

A cultural/irl historical analysis of the Forces of Chaos (both 40k and AoS/Fantasy) would be cool to see in the next video

@mathieuleader8601 27 күн бұрын

that bony elf from Warhammer could be a ghost of one of the Patch Tribe in Shaman King

@kevinschaude6592 23 күн бұрын

The Lumineth Realm Lords from Age of Sigmar, the fantasy elf equivalent of the eldar, might have an even stronger cultural connection to Japan than the space elf version. Might be worth looking at.

@NoahFan114 27 күн бұрын

10:40 - Anyone else think that shield-like thing the mech has looks like a Duel Disk?

@Moderhead 27 күн бұрын

what I love the most about warhammer and also 40 k is that you can see more than one direct cultural influence, and I believe craftworld are the most interesting. I mean, we have the shinto stuff shown here, but also ancient egypt (the Symbol of Ulthwe is literally the eye of horus) and most subtly Ireland of the early middle ages (the craftworld name of Samm-hainn and, well, where in shinto and egypt do you see elves). It's just literally three cultural ends of the planet together and it just works beautifully.

@richitunder7997 26 күн бұрын

Entirely unrelated to the video. Got inspired by your kenku arcane trickster. Made my own arcane trickster ninja. A kitsune ontop of that

@firstofalllosers3615 25 күн бұрын

i remember the eldar fluff from 2nd ed being a mix of egyptian and japanese myths so ive youve got a 2nd ed codex on your shelf check out the bits in the grey boxes. note this was about 30 years ago so i may be wrong

@qwefg3 24 күн бұрын

Nice to see the Shinto Eldar brought up more as a bigger concept than a coincidence.

@starlightfree 27 күн бұрын

That was fun and informative. More collabs like this would be awesome!!

@dmsnotesadventuresofthethi779 27 күн бұрын

The craftworld Eldar kinda remind me of the soul society from Bleach.

@Animogx 27 күн бұрын

Man, I am adoring all the Warhammer videos. This is really making me wanna get into it, with the best Boyz of course

@jackevans6829 23 күн бұрын

Love the video as always but when’s the imperium of man come on the Raven guard, or the Alpha legion? I’d love to see a video you’d do on them

@charliecole4430 27 күн бұрын

Huh a video giving and enhancing a thought that I had. Great video gim gam.

@topcat59 27 күн бұрын

Cool vid bro.😺

@MyTomServo 27 күн бұрын

They have weapons that fire shiruken instead of bullets and they have those back banner things. I think GW referencing Japan is on purpose lol There's probably something there with the aspect warriors also and like... Japanese theater with their masks and stuff

@walther_brock7214 26 күн бұрын

Hot take, but I think you were stretching a bit on the Wraithblade - Wraithguard duality approximating the 2 aspects of a kami. As far as I understand how the Eldar spirit stones work, it's one soul per stone. If you need 1 Wraithguard and 1 Wraithblade, you'll need 2 spirit stones - no filtering and splitting of the soul happens. I mean, that would be peak economy for Iyanden if they could do just that, allowing them to field an army of constructs twice the size of their dead population, at the cost of losing all their ancient, wise dead should a battle go badly for them.

@mushputato 17 күн бұрын

From what I've read in places, inspiration for the Craftworld Eldar stemmed originally from Celtic, Japanese, and (I think?) Egyptian culture and myths, in terms of aesthetic and lore. My memory is pretty terrible, so don't quote me on that, but if I'm correct the similarities likely aren't entirely coincidence. Also yes please do more, us Eldar players need something, GW's barely giving us anything and we're living off table scraps please help someone anyone.

@davidblaising-wimmer9972 27 күн бұрын

Vulcans in Star Trek are very similar to Eldar. Vulcans DO feel emotions stronger than humans do but they are disciplined by Logic to not usually express them.

@ducdantalion2317 27 күн бұрын

I find the Mourners to be the sadest part of the Paths of the Eldar. "Oh you can cry without being devoured your slanneshi tedency! Now, you will cry for our entier craftworld."

@Ryu_D 27 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@Hero_of_Comedy 12 күн бұрын

A suggestion for a future Which Ninja video. Chiyome and Goemon, the Ninja Beastmen from Skeleton Knight in Another World.

@adhambarbour 27 күн бұрын

I wasn't expecting this to go so hard but I should've known.😄

@bobalinx8762 27 күн бұрын

Would you say that the Oversoul object in Shaman King is similar to a shintai?

@zanielgaming4296 27 күн бұрын

Not sure if it matters or not, but I wonder if the Wraith Bone has any sort of cultural equivalent. Along with the Webway and the different paths the eldar take for things like Warpspiders (my personal favorite) Phoenix soldiers (which I'm guessing you've probably already taken a look at)

@MicaiahBaron 25 күн бұрын

Am I missing something? I don't see the follow up video on Pacreas channel, and its not on their list of upcoming videos either.

@gregbiory3909 24 күн бұрын

Hey Gaijin, I am wondering if you could do any lore on Shin Megami Tensei 5 with SMT V: Vengeance that's being released or has recently released.

@BrunoMaricFromZagreb 24 күн бұрын

I've been watching you for a decade.Even with Culture Shock no longer a thing,I like that you still have a niche that catches the internet's attention.

@theeditor4054 22 күн бұрын

If changing this up for 40k, you wanna talk about the space Mongol Empire, look to the White Scar's Space Marines

@kingpin201 27 күн бұрын

This video just made me think of the dual sides of the force in Star Wars from the Clone Wars series. The Kami needs balance to make sure one doesn’t overcome the other, but to keep them in unity. I liked this video. To think that ideal was taken from the Shinto.

@curiouswind9196 27 күн бұрын

So Pankreasnowork is going to make a which ninja episode?

@heartheater8315 8 күн бұрын

10:53 wait so the than elder CAN make new spirit stones?! I genuinely thought that they all had a finite amount.

@theaychgee 3 күн бұрын

Looking forward to your take on the new assains creed game!!!!!!!

@ducdantalion2317 27 күн бұрын

I really really hope there is a link between the Way of the Aeldari and the strict social order of the sengoku era japan.

@jefrosiers8880 26 күн бұрын

love to see more people talk about the Eldar

@enovos3138 23 күн бұрын

Haven't watch it yet, but im better their will be zero mention of the Eldar's celtic influence, which is werid that no one gets considering their entire theme is being the fye in space.

@rashidabdul3215 26 күн бұрын

I would like to start an Aeldari army of my own because I like playing Final Fantasy. Seriously, have you seen the parallels between Materia and Sprit Stones? Sin from FFX to Slaanesh? More so, The Infinity Circuit and The Lifestream in FFVII?

@theskullboy8700 25 күн бұрын

"this is 40k there are no nice guys" me a salamander: and I took that personally

@GaijinGoombah 25 күн бұрын

How's that Eldar child that Vulcan burnt to death?

@theskullboy8700 25 күн бұрын

@@GaijinGoombah it was a drukari he had it coming

@jonathanathor117 27 күн бұрын

11:35 so is a shintai like an avatar in hinduism? Or at the very least similar to one?

@TheLordofMetroids 27 күн бұрын

God I love your Orks so much. This is how proxy 3d prints should be. You have the power to create anything, don't just make a spoof of GW's minis, get cool and unique with it. Make Samurai orks or Space Pirate Tao, or Rat Admech or something cool like that. Have fun with it, revel in the insanity.

@JayJet53 27 күн бұрын

I wonder how shadow spectors and their relationship with wraith guard factors into this

@tavernburner3066 23 күн бұрын

I'm disappointed you didn't talk about Elder culture in this.

@dolando5837 27 күн бұрын

Those samurai Ork models look sick

@qualthos1 26 күн бұрын

日本人はエルフ娘が好きなのを納得できた。勉強になりました。

@ringoutko9463 22 күн бұрын

Eldar are as stated by GeeDubz themselves based on no one specific culture or real world counterpart but are instead a pastiche of many ancient civilisations from China to the Greek City States to Rome to even the Celtic factions of ancient Briton. Eldar are weebs is a meme perpetuated by people who see such cursory similarities to Japan as “Uses sword and wears robe, lol! Must be a kimono” That said you may want to look closer at Aspect Warriors who are inspired by the Shaolin Monks and Incubi who are basically Samurai

@Ukitsu2 24 күн бұрын

To add to the theory: Am I the only one that finds the battlesuits of the anime "Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross" (1984) VERY SIMILAR to the Eldar battlesuits from 1987? Could this be a little less of a concidence?

@Masonicon 20 күн бұрын

Anyone ever consider drawing any Aeldari in 2000s animated Teen Titans style?

@ambershangout7226 26 күн бұрын

Craft world eldar are nice in the sense they won’t turn you into soup without killing you.

@_NIKOS9_NIKOS 26 күн бұрын

Also, they wont kill you just by principle

@avon_the_trash_king6966 19 күн бұрын

"There are no nice guys." Laughs in Salamander

@darkwolfoflight6753 27 күн бұрын

My first thought regarding how the Wraith Blades, Seers, and Lords are seemingly defined by a single emotion or another, despite once being living beings with a complex myriad of emotion, might be caused by what their emotional state was when they died or how they viewed their deaths. The Wraith Blades might have been those who died while in a fury, or were enraged that they had died in the place or manner that they did. On the other hand, the Wraith Seers and Lords might have been been more calm because they were the ones who felt acceptance of their fate on the battlefield or felt regret for not being able to continue fighting for those they cared for, so being implanted into a mechanical body would give them another chance to defend their people. At least, that's my initial viewpoint. I also like the position you explained.

@Scarletraven87 23 күн бұрын

Imagine working for a 24 minute video and making a typo in the thumbnail

@robertnovich4137 24 күн бұрын

Also, kind of a weird theory that's out there, but one interpretation for the Eldar gods and Eldar souls, is that the Eldar souls are Tesseract fractals of the whole of all Eldar, that each Eldar soul reflects a specific point of all of the Eldar, including their gods. ...and, what happens when keys parts of that Fractal, their Gods, are eaten by Slaanesh?

@SeanCrosser 24 күн бұрын

Crazy to me that Eldar: a) came first b) use shurikens c) have back banners d) have their warriors follow a Warrior's Path, i.e. Bushido and everyone says that Tau are more Japanese because they have mechs.

@toastertech1181 25 күн бұрын

ironically enough before i knew this i actually took some advice from japanese stuff when roleplaying/GMing as eldar.. granted i didn't get to use the info that much but still

@MySuperPowerIsITouchGrass 26 күн бұрын

Lumineth in AoS also have a lot of shito influence attached to them.

@benjaminbrockway5998 27 күн бұрын

So I guess we now know what Gaijin's next army is gonna be.

@soccerandtrack10 9 күн бұрын

24:12 advice=spin around,it can help.

@boyanpenev9822 26 күн бұрын

Tau are influenced more by imperial China than by Japan, I'd say. Of course, Japan took more than a few ideas from China during its time.

@fumarc4501 20 күн бұрын

I’ve been saying that the Craftworld Eldar have more in common with ancient Japan culture than the Tau Empire.

@girl1213 27 күн бұрын

I learn more about Warhammer here then I do anywhere else

@tipulsar85 27 күн бұрын

Ah, It's been a hot minute since I encountered 40K's Space Elves. And yes, that was what the Eldar were called when I first looked found out about 40K, Space Elves. This was 25 years ago... The sad part is GW has let go of many of their Minis lines over the decades. When was the last time you heard of Mordheim, Battlefleet Gothic, or Inquisitor? And that's just a hand full.

@Necrodermis 26 күн бұрын

I'm kind of surprised how few people know about the Japanese influence on Craftworld Eldar. When i first started which was some 22 years back they were seen as the Japanese faction.

@turtleofpride4572 26 күн бұрын

The none function pancreas man is an exquisite elf lover. There is nothing sweeter than elf bussy.

@tyrant-den884 25 күн бұрын

If the Lovectaft gods can be in Doctor Who; Vulkans can have Slaanesh.

@sornpurcell3895 27 күн бұрын

Honestly I am probably going to be making a homemade craft world

@tackwardsfongjump1800 26 күн бұрын

My favorite Eldar East Asian connection is the fact that Asurman literally has the Yin Yang symbol on his chest. Does that mean that humanity still created the symbol, or did we steal it from the eldar, or the other way around?

@cesarsuarezrodriguez412 23 күн бұрын

Like cotangencial evolution both arrived to the same conclusion because it's obvious