That sub full of troglodytes bro

As a longstanding member of r/eldenring discord I completely agree with the homie here like honestly everyone should just git gud cause it’s not a big deal if you die if you learn from it.

I got downvoted into oblivion for defending the first boss 😭

@@ZombiesFried0304 as a Reddit surfer (specifically on soulsborne communities) I approve this message

It really shows how many people are new to the souls series. There is not one fromsoft dlc where the game doesn't get harder, and bosses don't have new mechanics. The father of the abyss is the fastest boss in ds1, flume knight forces you to explore or else he heals in ds2, kos in bloodborne, and midir in ds3, all are very different from anything in the base game and all are significantly harder

Bushy is live doing the dlc with +0 weapons

There's already a guy who beat final boss, no hit, naked with a dagger

@@themadartist1980 shhhhh no spoilers

@@indradracolich ah my bad sry :P

@themadartist1980 all good idk how yall beat the entire dlc in 3 days

the complaints are fkn ridiculous. Use the tools that the game provides you to fight back guys!

so they are masochists

I had to be reminded that I'm a souls players. I was falling into the pit of self pitty and "it used to be good but this is just absurd." I don't remember what exactly happened, but durring the divine beast fight I had to drag victory out of a doomed run because I realized I used consumables I didn't want to, or couldn't, replace. It felt really good. Then during Rellana, I got a parry off that I didn't think was possible, and I realized "No, its not absurd, it's just been a while since I was properly challenged. Lets do this shit."

@@darkeather2 this is exactly the feeling we are supposed to get from the game. Thank you for sharing.

Aye, pain is an old friend.

people dont use what's infront of them and then call people losers and not real players because they used the fucking mechanics in the game, i hate the way the souls community thinks like that, "if ya didn't do it eyes closed and with your feet it wasn't actually a challange lolololo" like god it is annoying, i willl always partake in jolly cooperation and i will use buffs because that is what solaire and miyazaki wanted me to do

You know that this isn't true. I know yall narcissists love to ego ride whatever feeds your bubble, but hear me out when I say...... That this weird arse community is TOO PROUD and narcissistic to use any sort of tool, Scadutree fragments included....Because yall weirdos think it makes the game "too easy" and is considered cheese. Oh, using Rot against a dragon? Cheese. Using a weapon that specifically deals more dmg against Dragons? Cheese. Using ashes? Cheese. Using jump attacks? Cheese. DODGING???????11?1?1 CHEESE!!!1!11!1!!!!1! Using the holy cookbook you get before a deathblight/Undead enemy, obviously telling you their weakness????? CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE

Tbh, I would rather spend an hour or 2 learning the attack patterns more in depth than farming mats & runes for 2 hours so I can have 5 attempts with buffs. It’s easy to say but literally, what’s the point, when eventually most players get the “whatever it takes” feeling & re-specs into a bleed build, tank or perfume build

@@archieliam717 guts build is best

Being forced to use consumables is like gamer therapy for me because all my life I store them for "later" and by the time I beat the game I haven't used a single consumable.

Chicken Alfredo with a side of breadsticks

Sir, that's a war crime​@@PleePlo

Hesitation is defeat

Preach, though it wasn’t Sekiro for me. It was fighting games mostly, then it became Elden Ring that showed me “git gud” spans more than just in online multiplayer games

my favorite kind of git gud is the sekiro kind in elden ring it comes down to your playstyle and grinding levels for uogrades and at some point you can make it without skill, it isnt asking casuals to get gud its asking them to grind away, it makes sense for an open world but i personally hate that style of game sekiro says fuck you to casuals and forces you to learn the game, even though technically there are cheap tricks they wont get you far, you have to git gud you have to parry and manage the environment or youre getting dogpiled by homing attacks

this lmfao

I’ve been pretty much playing blindfolded if you take into account all the visual clutter that half the bosses produce

@@mini8964😅😅😂😂😂😂 me too lol

trueee

I already saw videos of Ongbal no-hitting Rellana and Messmer.

you fucking what

He was destroying me until I beat his ass unmounted.

No fucking fr, he gave me.more trouble than any of the main bosses 😭 mf never stops

He’s been doing messmer

What if I told you there's an even larger pot you can wear now?

@@rob98000 his power... it grows

@@ryanbennett4817 how'd he do against Rellana anyway... didn't even realize he was doing streams until he was at Messmer and I haven't gone back.

@@kennethmorgan8795 I didn’t watch the rellana streams if there was any

Imagine you're building a shed. Now you're painting it and as soon as ur about to finish painting, all the screws and bolts just magically pop out. That's what fighting bosses that can heal feels like.

Player: hitting the boss for 90% of their health pool. Fromsoft: now listen here you little...

Me with that first Blackgaol knight

​@anakomaru mf vibe checks anybody going in with a "GG EZ" mindset.

Also love the unironic Player: "Chugs estus right in front of the boss's face" "Gets bitch slapped" Player: "BAD GAME DESIGN!!"

And I'm thankful for it

Learning it the hard way. Actually that’s not really true in still working my way up to Mohg!! 😂😂

Nah, I used bleed and it legitimately shredded her to pieces, bleed builds prevail again!! 😋😋😋

You’re gonna laugh when I say I stood in one exact spot without healing and killed rellana within a 30 second period

@@jacksonparker39yooo😭😭😭 how

@@jacksonparker39black flame tornado?

@@2win3go11 he obviously didnt you cant face tank bosses and kill them in 30 seconds

I solo’d all the way to radahn, and I’ll be damned if i summon for him now, will never

@@HolyHunterOfGoldI’m on NG+5 so after 66 attempts on Rellana I just decided to give up and use summons because it just wasn’t fun anymore. I don’t care about “beating the game the way it was intended”, I just want to have fun. That being said I did beat Messmer solo after 109 attempts because he was just such a fun boss. I also summoned on Leta and friends cuz that was bs but I’ve promised myself not to use summons on Radahn

@@snek_47 i always say “play the game the way you want, how others do is irrelevant minus for conversation” radahn is one hell of a boss, good luck

​@@HolyHunterOfGoldhow dare you not use igon against bayle ?

​@snek_47 if summons weren't the intended way to play why are they in the game

this guy just spoke some facts

More of us should keep Yamis words in the back of our minds.

Some? God, you're so wrong......Git gud GG is an insult. Good game GG is an actual compliment. Please don't feed their already overinflated egos. They're going to explode!

@@McNugge.says who?

@@daltonbaecht6778There’s no way you’re a part of the souls community & under the impression Git Gud was something other than an backhanded insult from us elitist, jaded souls players 😬

Same, Carian greatness once again

Took me two days to actually beat her, and I love better version of night and flame so much, PvP going crazy

After I beat her I immediately upgraded them and started using them

I thought of a DS3 boss when I saw her, there may be an inspiration or something.

​@mitchellmccormick8942 Did the exact same thing. It's so fun to stance somebody down when they invade. The crowd control and ability to defend from multitarget mobs is awesome, the combos are fluid and fun. I'm literally making an NPC for 5e based around the sword combos for it.

Dogs jumping out of bushes, Rennala humbling me over and over, those damn creepy jars, the fire giants kicking boulders at me, and realizing that I still have half of the map to explore is causing me to have joy/anxiety. I love this dlc!

Quit true I have got my ass handed to me by almost every boss and I love all the bosses so far more than the base game ones

This game been shoving my ish IN! My only complaint is the red summon bosses in those crypts are difficult because of some BS like randomly gaining super armor in the middle of your combo and one tapping you. Still LOVE it tho. Messmer almost made me summon like biotch. Gotta do the first run solo. Ti's written in the ancient texts

@@MyFallen17 I haven't gone far enough to reach Messmer I'm busy trying to discover every corner of the world before doing the main bosses as much as possible

Same the fucking Hippo Beat my ass for 10 Times then i saw the next Boss 😂

Exploration MADE the base game. So I'm really surprised people are complaining about having to explore in the DLC too 😭

@@OnMyLunchBreak07Yea it did but you weren’t forced to explore, unlike with the dlc its explore,keep getting 2 shotted or gitgud

but what if youre stuck at a progression boss and already explored?

​@Roxasdakings you will also get two shotted by the tree sentinel in the base game of you don't explore, what's the point you're making here exactly?

@@Spectrum0122 Then you have to learn the boss patterns and the windows for punishing and stay cool when you get hit so you are not punished for backpedaling. Using openings for healing is the best choice here.

Which is the fun part Try to do a no hit run for elden ring and believe me next time you play normally you will considered a god

This one is different though. Like actually.

This is genuinely the most unfun dlc ive played i deleted elden ring today, the game itself is good, i beat the main game, but the dlc is just so hard. It doesnt even feel good after finally killing 2 bosses in 3 days. Before i beat the main game i felt achieved after killing a boss. I dont feel that with this, it feels more like a chore, go in the portal, mess up one dodge, die, then its rinse and repeat, and thats happened for idk how many hours, even after i went around the map for 4 hours for fragments. You die in 2 hits, but it feels like some of these bosses moves just have no way to avoid them. Its a bit too punishing.

Nah, this one is different. Scadutree shards fundamentally change the perception of the DLC.

@@spookzer16 and they don’t even help that much

They don't know about him yet.

Hes an amazing npc, totally worth bringing to da boss

My god, that fight was epic af

My favorite is trying to summon him while 6 messages are on top of his sign and Bayle pouncing on my .005 seconds after I enter the arena. Every time it was “CURSE YOU BAYLEEEE” followed by 15 seconds of dragon testicles and being pinned to the wall while I yell for him to shut up and help me 😂

@@daniels.8917 lol nice, for me I got lucky and after my third attempt got good message skewing so I can do an actual run on bayle, not saying I couldnt do it alone but the guys to peak not to bring along

My twin and me the first 3 bosses and now after finding 16 scadutree frags. Twin I think I got these now I'll call you when a boss like RELLANA makes me question my stats and build again.

Yeah I don't feel bad using mimic tear anymore lol

spirits and phantom summons are exactly what they've always been, just a difficulty slider, which is fine. what i will say is this, using summons does drastically change most of the boss battles, negating or removing entirely, various boss mechanics. so yeah, they are there to be used but they change a fight so much that it effectively means you arent fighting the same boss as some one that doesnt use the summons. just something to keep in mind when deciding if you're gunna use a summon just to get past the frustration of being stuck on a boss or if you'd rather practice the fight and defeat the boss as it was designed.

@@officialdabaws5228if I’m being honest most the boss fights feel almost the exact same without the summons as it does with you get more breathing room though. But the mechanics of the boss are the same it doesn’t change their moveset. The spirits die usually before the boss is a little past half anyway I’ve noticed

Yeah all correct and shit until a fucking lizard one shot you for the 5TH TIME IN A ROW WITH HIS GRAB. I LOVE SOULS BUT BRUH

Fr lol I just used mimic tear on Rellana and it still took another 25 attempts on top of the 40 I already had cuz I’m on NG+5 and I only had shadow realm blessing level 4. I beat Messmer without summons tho cuz his fight was really fun and I didn’t wanna make it so easy

Midra was by far my favourite fight. Buy Messmer was quite fun. I just found that getting hits in between his combos was a bit frustrating.

​@@draconiandracoMidra is the only one I mimic tear'd for so far. I really hate bosses that apply a status condition, its a pet peeve of mine so I don't really care about using mimic tear.

They are legal but they feel like cheating on my part, 1st tried almost all bosses base game due to summons and a broken weapon. I’d probably 1st or 2nd try dlc bosses if I minmaxed and used summons.

People that say you shouldn't summon are the same people saying it's too hard. I really don't understand some people's minds

You, too, have dwarves in your mind? *tips hat*

While fighting Mesmer THIS FIGHT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT ITS WAY TOO FAST REEEEEEE after beating Mesmer THIS GAME IS A MASTERPIECE 10/10 BEST FIGHT IN THE SERIES

They need to fix renalla either make it possible to stagger them out of an attack or make them ignore stagger damage so that their claymore spell land consistently and not random off axis waves

Fr. The only DLC boss I haven’t felt this for is the golden hippo, idk why that dude just made me so angry with the massive model blocking the screen and the hit boxes of the attacks(specifically the grab attack). Everything else has been 10/10 tho

Thats super obsessive. if youre praying to a normal ass dude like God you have problems.

​@@PsychoMoFoGamingLord gaben

There's plenty, PLENTY ways to take damage and not get one shot. They literally give you the tools in the game. If the game is difficult, then you are too stupid to make use of what you are given. Talisman for magic resist, incantation for spell resist. Leveling vigor. Certain shields/armor. Use what you're given and it becomes easy. I was disappointed Rellana took me 2 tries(1st try was me learning/seeing the moveset).

Hey! Saw your comment and thought you might be talking about the Ascended mod, im a head beta tester/side developer for it so thought I’d give my input as the only person who beat the current… or rather pre SoTE release version… this is actually on par with some of the Ascended early game bosses such as Godrick or even god forbid Renalla. Im good friends with Vanbuinen the creator of the Ascended mod and if you have any questions most of them can be solved by going to the Ascended mod page and or checking out some content on my channel where i beat it at Rune level 1. Hope this helps!

@@JoshuaGraves113 you probably don't realize this but what you're saying only works if the things you're "supposed to be using" are set inside of your preferred playstyle. Sure if you play with a shield anyways then you don't give a damn which one you use and you can just switch to one that blocks more magic or whatever it is you keep dying to, but if you're like me and haven't touched a shield since DS1, then you don't want to do that. And tbh even when you beat the boss with those "cheese strats", it doesn't feel good. I don't want to be forced to choose between dying to stupid shit or using something i don't want to use, just because some people created "easy mode builds" in the base game. it's not a fair challenge, and being a fair challenge is the whole point of souls games. "Hard to learn, even harder to master." not "Do strategy XYZ or get fucked."

​@@RyderX90 I haven't switched my pure str build for the entire game. The only thing I added was a pearldrake talisman, dragoncest shield and occasionally depending on the boss a health talisman combined with claw talisman. If not health, Jar of alexander to make (spoiler) savage lions claw deal alotta damage. With scadutree fragments you can really make the game easier, witouth them I 4-hit Omens, with them it's 2 at most. And you don't get one shot, idk about ng+ and others, but you get one shot there by soldier of godrick soooo

Well then you're proving my point. All the tweaks you made were inside your comfort zone, so you didn't care as much about them. But for a lot of people they aren't. And on the topic of scadutree fragments.. I had a discussion about exploration with someone a while ago, in which i praised Elden Ring for it's "optional" exploration system that often rewards you with things you will never touch in your playthrough, but then sometimes sprinkles an interesting weapon or spell in. On the other hand we had games like genshin impact or BotW where exploration felt more like a chore, because you already know what you're gonna get from every single thing you find on the map. (primogems for character pulls in genshin / heartcontainers/stamina upgrade in BotW) Now with the addition of scadutree fragments, the exploration in the dlc has been downgraded partially to that exact same level of "feels like a chore". Even Jacob is proving this by saying "just whip out an interactive map". Like bro.. if i have a map and already know where i'm going and what i'm getting then i'm not exploring, i'm running errands.

The Hippo is after Rellana tho

@@emo4eternity.you can skip her by going to scadu Altus through another route

@@rajveerdhingra8142 yeah but still the hippo is after her so i dont get it

Like, dodge.

​@@emo4eternity. You dont have to beat rellana to fight the hippo

I am fr skilled bared from “one of the best games all made” wish I could play it 💀

@@katush8810 I would argue against that. This as someone who entered the game on release with no prior experience, and who failed a lot at first. Eventually, you learn to make the game work for you, and summons are always an option.

​@@kenyamorgan490absolutely agreed. I wouldnt say im the best at games. But i managed to make it to the Elden Beast, even if i never beat it. It was mostly theough a combination of that one undead summon that can revive itself and spamming meteors at the boss.

Real

Broo fr I missed dying to everything cause I suck

Yeah Rellana was my favorite boss. Won’t spoil it, but the final boss is just pure torture 😅😂

That halfway point transformation took me back to DS3 and Pontiff Sulyvahn. I love when FromSoft does homages like that.

We've had exceptionally challenging DLC bosses before that feel like they scale above the base game. Orphan of KoS is a prime example. I'm blown away anyone who isn't new to souls games is surprised.

​@@ghostlord8375Orphan of Kos is one of my favorite boss fights ever, but it's a fairly different situation. BB bosses are fast and aggressive because the player is fast and aggressive.

​@@ChaosDragussYeah thats the problem. They feel like sekiro bosses in a dark souls game.

@@niklasmilonas Wouldn't go quite so far as to say they're like Sekiro bosses. Malenia's dance attack is still the only thing that's felt like that to me. But they definitely feel like something out of BB, which is still a lot to deal with using ER characters. Honestly, fighting them gives me a massive urge to go replay BB for the five hundredth time.

expect a non shit game how about that

Panic rolling is the mind killer. Panic healing is wasted healing.

I remember fighting Rellana right off rip and her little glint stone sword slash where she sweeps the arena is actually crazy lol, it one shot me every time until took a break, leveled up a bit and got more scadutree fragments

If you try to roll dodge her moons, you are dead.... "Don't"

@@ItzKryptek64 The sweep is tricky because it is so quick. You want to wait for it to be closer, but a mid-roll's I-frames are shorter than the sweep. Dodge the slash, wait, then dodge the sweep. I think you can also just hop over the three AOE waves.

I heard a great line from a friend who a souls vet he said "something can be so hard it's unfair when it's unfair you lose the fun aspect and you lose the fun you lose players" and playing ER for 300 hours yes totally some enemies are are unfun but there's also a mindset that if your not good your just a casual

@@AneirinRPG Except people call everything unfair when they struggle... Give your bloody mother a controller and she'd find 'Soldier of Godrick' unfair. Personally, I really don't think any of it is unfair. People do hitless runs all the time and there's a multitude of solutions to problems you face in game. It's only unfair if you expect to win first time, whilst under leveled and not adapting to the enemy which is the main problem here. People went in expecting their OP bleed builds from the base game to breeze through the DLC.

​@@pagatryx5451 Just because some people misuse the word doesn't make the arguments invalid.

@pagatryx5451 the unfun type I was talking about are the pack of scarlet rot dogs that are just unfun to fight against

@@applel2.043 Maybe if they were making arguments, but they're not. So, yes, what they're saying is invalid. Not talking about Aneirin here but people who criticize the DLC's difficulty without saying because it's 'unfair' in general.

It WAS advice

how is it advice? If someone is struggling with painting you explain color theory to them, you don't say "git gud". If someone doesn't know how to fix their computer you don't say "git gud", you explain to them how their computer works. If someone is struggling in a video game, actual advice would be to explain the mechanics of the game, what boss moves are like and how to react to them, what strategies you used which were effective, or if nothing else you tell them that they need to practice the boss a couple of times while just focusing on dodging and looking for windows to attack... just saying 'git gud" does nothing but infuriate those being given this "advice" while allowing the one parroting an abused phrase to feel superior. I know most people genuinely think "git gud" is supposed to be advice, and most people genuinely want others to enjoy the souls game as much as they do. But please understand, saying "Git gud" and thinking you're a saint for doing so accomplishes neither of those and just makes outsiders and newcomers think souls fans are snobbish braindead masochists. You're not, so please stop reinforcing that impression.

@@human6613 bros fluent in yappanese

And he is just the man known for it. There are many of us who replicated the feat and didn't put it on KZfaq 😏

@@hunterxfinity1791sure you did bud . You know what of course u did many like you . Shit probably 50% of players are like not hit once all the games they just didn’t record it.

​@@chimpzu2507 tell us you suck without telling us you suck. Git gud scrub

Yes. The 0.1% Comparing the masses and the casual player to them is like telling people everyone can become Hollywood famous😂

@chimpzu2507 it's pretty sad if you have nothing better to do than discredit me for something I didn't directly say I did. I did a linear no death campaign from da 1 to bloodborne in order. But I know 4 other people who have done no hit campaigns, and I watched two of the do it myself on a discord live stream. If you don't believe me, that's not my problem nor does it bother me. Go take your pointless hate elsewhere 🤣🤣

Rellana was so dumb that it is advised that you just solo her with mimic tear. i tried nearly 7 times with a summon and my friend and she has just so much bullshit in her kit that just having lower hp is how you beat her. and her weapons are just insane. idk but sword of night and Flame meets akimbo and Dancer from DS3 is dope as hell

@@brandoncrum5843 Advised to use mimic tear? Like every single boss that people struggle with lol?

​@@brandoncrum5843shes one of the only actually decent bosses so far. Shes just someone you straight up fight, like midir. Aside from her flame attack, and blue weapon throwing attack. Just be very aggressive because theres actual timings for you to do so. Unlike the stupid hippo after her, and somewhat divine beast.

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@brandoncrum5843fym her kit is easy as shit. And for the record, I’m trash at this game. It’s just super easy to read her. She has like 3 or 4 combos in phase 1, and most of them are an easy but consistent punish. The other one, while less consistent to punish (it’s hard to tell if she’s gonna follow up). Other than that, she has the phalanx attacks which are easy af to dodge. Honestly, the only attack I mildly dislike is her blue sword attack in phase 2, which is annoying af to dodge, cuz if I sprint, I get hit by the second two low slashes, but I can’t dodge fast enough either.

​@@WorldKeepsSpinninme personally i beat the hippo 3rd try but i understand that its hard but its not the hippo thats hard to me its the tiny ass boss arena bro like damm i was trying to fight te camera the whole Fight

I've seen people also beat elden Ring, with voice commands, and other stuff it's gonna be insane when people start doing it to the dlc

The first boss in the dlc got beat by a girl that had a headset that used brain signals, she didn’t even have to move to beat the boss she just used her brain

When "Git Gud" means I wasted my money on something I simply don't got the time or skill to love

Lokey tho the bosses could use a slight nerf

​@jacobinator4981 be careful you'll get hate from the community for saying that any criticism and they'll attack you

​@jacobinator4981 have ppl beat it? It's beatable, but hard. Asking for a nerf is just a self report on skill...

@@mrfancyshmancy there we go lol they come a calling

Unlike those madness mages in the woods….. they’re scary

*Laughs in giant flame golem*

​@@streetskyglider716parry the grab attack to make them susceptible to damage, you get a talisman from one of them

@@NinjaWormy you’re kidding right?

@streetskyglider716 nope. Golden parry works the best, they don't respawn either

FYI your fighting her auntie so have fun

Hippoboi was harder than rellanna, and still not that as difficult as people are crying about

​@@Firehazard159i had a bit of a hard time against her, but i absolutely stomped Hippoboy like it was a fly on my wall, so much that i thought it was going to be a normal enemy later in the game like they do sometimes. I'm surprised to see everyone having nightmares about that boss, i feel like i'm playing something else lmao

Wait for the final boss and you'll be shitting blood I mean my god man

So far I've only struggled against Messmer and Radahn. I've soloed everything without summons and honestly it's the most fun I've ever had with elden ring.

What happened?

ALL HAIL LORD DOUBLE BONK

Love how the jackaboi fandom is essentially a cult

​@@ameerzuher5347we're not a cult

@@T3chn0Fr3nzythat’s exactly what a cult member would say…

Finger print shield supremacy jajajaja

Amen

Fingerprint shield + Mesmers Spear + Bullgoat armor set was what I used to beat the final boss, up until that point my base build was doing fine 😂

@@SamTheLord-26I also used fingerprint shield and mohgs spear because the final boss deserved it

@@octavio1689 Yeah I was gonna use that one but I really wanted to try Mesmers spear

My brother I battled her and was at full HP and got railed multiple times

Try to play DMC5 on hell and hell mode

He's arguing AGAINST the people saying its to hard

Her weakness is lightning.

​@@therpggamer7867vigor check, is it above 40? Are you wearing armor resistant to slashing and magic? Bonus if your the respective great shield talismans. The magic great shield talismans is under the castle. It's easy to reach without dying as there is a path under the bridge. Then it should take 3 hits without wonderous psychi

There’s only time for a half second get better ❤️‍🩹 😂

Use summons to distract them

Git gud

​@@muk280Bayle still beat me so many times 😂 then I got gud

@@muk280 I feel like with summons the fights are too easy, but without them they’re near impossible. I try to fight without them but after dozens of deaths I just cant take it anymore.

Yea I followed his sekiro walkthrough

That legend carried me in DS2 and ds3

bayle is better

Personally I find her a pain to fight, not that she is too difficult, but just annoying. It feels like a chore to fight her and the final boss to a lesser extent. Rolling 95% of a fight isn't really fun or engaging. Every other boss is pretty awesome though

I got hit by it the first time, and i wasnt even mad 😂 but yea some of her movesets love to frame trap you

Not gonna lie I was soo hype when she did that I didn’t even dodge it properly and chocked the first try , the proceed to take 10 attempts to beat her 😂

And the third follow up sword strike actually combos you if you dodge the first but not the second moon . Just a warning cause that tilted me when it happened to me 😂

I agree.

Its forced exploration which wonders me since most places in the dlc are already worth visiting by their design.

Like how if you don’t lock on the enemies don’t parry you in Sekiro super hard content. Locking on in Elden ring is a trap to every single enemy is to fast or big to want to lock on it keeps you in a circle pattern around the boss which is how they’re attack patterns are made to hit you while locked on. Rolling is also a trap over half of the enemies attacks can be jumped it’s wild.

@@Lv1Jolteonsomeone watched a leviathan video 😉. I agree with you but the point OP tried to make is that bosses just move too fast, and that the players mouvement should be augmented, like in sekiro or bloodborne. I get that, I think it’s very understandable and the dlc does make me feel this way sometimes, buts it’s important to remember that fromsoft simply wants to make the game harder ( not netgative ) and so it makes bosses very fast and have complex attack patterns, but that’s only another way to make the game harder. It’s doesn’t make it unfair or unfunny ( for me at least ), it just adds to the pile of reasons why Elden ring bosses are better than you, and why it’s so satisfying to beat them.

Use a summon if you don't like them being and focusing on you. Summons make the game kinda easy at times but still at least you beat it

Eh, I dunno, I don’t really know how much we’d get out of Bloodborne’s strafe dodging.

Good point Elden Ring is overall almost same game after 13-15 years biggest change they did they made world bigger more open wolrd and having more bosses.

It is a little over the top though. I had one character severely over leveled and he was still getting two shotted by basic minions with level 7 seductree stuff

The bosses I revel in how hard they are. They’re demigods. They should be nearly impossible. However. Those pesky hyper armor soldiers of messmer should not be two tapping a character with 60 vigor

I’m all for getting gud, but the last boss of the dlc is way beyond just getting gud, that’s extreme!

Wait until you get to the last boss 😂 they got nerfed from the pre-release and still are incredibly overtuned. Took me an hour and a half to beat it. Definitely the hardest boss I’ve gone against in a fromsoft game.

@@ohitzrattly7378the enemies scale with level, so the dlc is much harder for over leveled players.

Left hand only is a challenge only in bloodborne and Sekiro (unless you mean controlling with one hand irl)

Miyazaki already stated that the game is supposed to be difficult and he wants you to feel something when you accomplish it

Because that is legitimately good advice. Sure maybe we don’t elaborate on HOW to “git gud”, but it is the most valid advice we can give you.

Yes. Because when people actually “git gud” you’ll see challenge runs where people will do this with the worst build in the game

@@Lv1JolteonThe ironic part is that when a boss is too difficult, you don’t feel like you’ve achieved anything when you’ve beaten it, just that you got lucky. Basically no boss in ER gave me that feeling of mastery after beating it I felt in previous games.

@@cosmic2750The issue is that it’s an uncalled for response. No advice is being asked for with a critique of the game. If I say that Rellana feels like rng whether or not I dodge her long combos, you’d be technically right in pointing out that if I spent the time to learn how to fight her, I’d probably be able to beat the fight hitless. The issue is that 1, that’s true of basically any boss that isn’t the bed of chaos, and so you’ve basically invalidated criticism made towards these games and 2, so what? So what I can beat it? It was still and incredibly emotionally underwhelming fight that felt tedious to learn, rather than fun. I play games to have fun and I haven’t been having fun with Shadow of the Erdtre. And when people point this out, even with reasoning given, people overlook it because it’s assumed to be a skill issue and not just an example of poor design on the games side.

Not the last boss. Needed to change completely my regular strength build to using dagger instead because he is so fast.

@@dennisfrojd1819 Git gud

@@dennisfrojd1819 Jk, It's a hard boss, but it's definitely possible with a pure strength build

Using a strength build rn and I feel like I’m not doing any damage(mostly because the absurd hp pools Elden ring has which makes fights drag on forever) or have any real windows to open without trading or getting lucky

Why do people act like pure strength is the pinnacle of skill? Like genuine question. I was breezing through every boss while using greatsword and hammer, on the other hand I was getting cooked using an arcane build and a faith build 😭