Why the Lord of the Rings movies STILL looks so good! (The INSANE detail of Isengard)

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Middle-Earth Updates

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3 ай бұрын

The Lord of the Rings trilogy remains a testament to seamless integration of physical models and VFX, notably seen in Isengard/Orthanc's meticulous construction. Despite being over two decades old, the trilogy's VFX still holds up, maintaining realism and immersion. From the intricate details of Isengard to hybrid shots blending models and VFX, the films demonstrate a timeless quality in their visual effects!

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@ACOGLMT556
@ACOGLMT556 2 ай бұрын
Lord of the rings was movie making at its peak, everything has gone downhill since.
@muellmanni1678
@muellmanni1678 2 ай бұрын
Why? Because they are newer 😂😛?
@ACOGLMT556
@ACOGLMT556 2 ай бұрын
@@muellmanni1678 because they heavily rely on cheaper CGI and take to many shortcuts so modern movies look like shit more then half the time. When everything is green screen the actors then also have a harder time selling the authenticity of the scene. The best movies will always be a combination of practical effects enhanced with good cgi
@Mntguy-nr9vl
@Mntguy-nr9vl 2 ай бұрын
Agreed I think Lord of the rings looks better than any marvel movie from the last 5 years
@MultiGoban
@MultiGoban 2 ай бұрын
Hard to go uphill when you finish shooting the best movie of all time bro 😅
@VictusG
@VictusG 2 ай бұрын
@@muellmanni1678Because it became about making money and not about making movies with passion.
@corbeanuandrei6989
@corbeanuandrei6989 2 ай бұрын
It's simple, they cared about the project and didn't rush to release it in a month-half a year. Patience and devotion always make beautiful things happen.
@muhammadbilalkhan9870
@muhammadbilalkhan9870 3 ай бұрын
It's amazing how good Lord of the rings is
@iainballas
@iainballas 2 ай бұрын
Keep in mind: James Cameron had the idea for his "Avatar" movies for years before 2009. However, he didn't think it could be brought to life until he saw The Two Towers, and how good Golum's CGI was. Until then, he didn't think that VFX could handle creating a fully-immersive alien world. Peter Jackson's trilogy revolutionized cinematography as much as ILM did with star wars, at least if not more.
@meerkat1954
@meerkat1954 2 ай бұрын
Neither holds a candle to the impact Jurassic Park had on VFX. That was the beginning of the CGI revolution.
@jasse85
@jasse85 2 ай бұрын
@@meerkat1954 And to think they started working on LOTR only a few years after JP was released.
@jonathanbirch2022
@jonathanbirch2022 Ай бұрын
Honestly, Titanic looked better than Avatar because Cameron didn't make a 100% CGI movie with Titanic.
@dv4975
@dv4975 2 ай бұрын
Greatest movies ever made
@halucca22
@halucca22 3 ай бұрын
I saw an exhibit of props from TTT in Toronto, and everything, EVERYTHING, was superbly detailed, whether it was featured or in the background. There was a hanging that was embroidered with the Two Trees, silver and gold, on silk chiffon. It was exquisite, and you can just barely glimpse it in the background in the scene where Elrond tells Arwen her fate if she stays with Aragorn. There was a swan in the hilt of the sword for Prince Imrahil, who wasn’t even shown in the films. Theoden’s sword Herugrim, with the horse heads on the hilt, just spectacular! ❤‼
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates 3 ай бұрын
Sounds amazing!
@Matt-dk3wl
@Matt-dk3wl 2 ай бұрын
The Museum of Science in Boston back in 2004 had Orthanc there and I got to stand right under it. It was amazing. They had a lot of the other 'bigeatures' there too. What a great time the early 2000's were.
@adamalucard4655
@adamalucard4655 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of the carvings on the minature of Grond the battering ram,which says in Mordor language something like "no walls between.Grond is the fist of Sauron"(not exact words) and you barely see the carvings on it in the movie.Yet another example of the crazy attention to the detail.
@justinhowe3878
@justinhowe3878 2 ай бұрын
I have no end of respect for the artists and craftspeople who make props, sets, and costumes for films, and those who do makeup and hair. I always notice this stuff and think what a wonderful job it is, how fun it sounds to get to do that kind of creative work. They're so imaginative and talented and without them, films wouldn't work. The best of what they do "disappears" into the background because the world feels so real and alive. Thanks all you wonderful unsung heroes of cinema!
@azzurriblue65
@azzurriblue65 2 ай бұрын
The entire production team did an absolutely tremendous job. A testament to true craftsmanship and artistry. What a fantastic trilogy.
@yammt3148
@yammt3148 2 ай бұрын
Those sweeping shots over the Minas Tirith model are still peak cinema.
@davidmcaninch4714
@davidmcaninch4714 2 ай бұрын
Lord of the Rings is just perfect. *THE* best trilogy of all time!!!!! Too many awesome moments to count!!!!!!!! Harry Potter can’t be compared to this. Pirates of the Caribbean can’t be compared to this. Star Wars can’t even be compared to the awesomeness that is the Lord of the Rings!!!!!! I can’t say which one’s my favorite: Fellowship of the Ring, Two Towers, or even Return of the King. All 3 of these movies are amazing!!!!!! To watch the Extended Editions in theaters…that would be just a dream come true!!!!!!!! I don’t deny that they’re really long, we’re talking 12 hours in total, but it’d be worth it!!!!!!!!!!!
@techkilledme
@techkilledme Ай бұрын
They do re-releases fairly often! Usually not the extended cuts but the theatricals are just as good, if not better. You can tell why a lot of the extended scenes were cut, they don’t really add anything to the plot or are mainly just filler / more world building. So keep an eye on your local theaters, a lot of ones around me have shown the trilogy within the last few years. The 25th anniversary’s are coming up super soon too! I would almost guarantee they will do a release for that.
@TheSolarium18
@TheSolarium18 Ай бұрын
for me it used to be return of the king but after a lot of rewatches and growing older it’s fellowship of the ring without question. (also the ghost army is probably the only thing i don’t like so much about the story and visuals hell of a deus ex machina moment) The character moments, the dialogues, the journey, the balrog etc just outstanding i think gandalf the grey only present in this movie is the biggest reason why. He is much more interesting than gandalf the white and his guidance to Frodo with his less poweful and less perfect self but more heart is amazing especially the dialogues and also his verbal confrontation (not the actual fight) with Saruman just breathtaking. Also Aragorn has the best character introduction i can imagine.
@kingslaphappy1533
@kingslaphappy1533 3 ай бұрын
I agree and i did not realise how much they incorporated physical models into the visusl blend along with the cgi.
@DarthHater100
@DarthHater100 2 ай бұрын
1:25 you can see Orthanc surrounded by trees, before the Orcs were ordered to deforest Isengard, at a later point in the movie. For these shots, they surrounded the miniature with essentially a giant photograph of Fall foliage, called a Translight. They use a similar technique for movies like Die Hard, where their entire set is surrounded by a wrap-around photograph of the city outside the windows. Even though for Orthanc, they didn't use the translight as background, they did use it so that the reflections in the waxy tower would accurately mirror the colors of its surroundings. It's this type of attention to detail which will always put LotR a cut above the rest.
@weltenleser
@weltenleser 2 ай бұрын
the more I learn about the lotr trilogy, the more impressed I become
@davidyoung5114
@davidyoung5114 2 ай бұрын
I just heard that L.O.T.R. will be re-released into cinemas with additional footage added to each film. I really hope they get shown near my town, because I will be there! And the one(s) who created this segment failed to acknowledge the participation of Sir Christopher Lee as Saruman; having him play that part was pure genius, and added to the authenticity of the movies!
@finmat95
@finmat95 3 ай бұрын
That's why it is an immortal masterpiece.
@yYyYust
@yYyYust 2 ай бұрын
those movies are just a pinnacle of human artistic achievement
@the_real_littlepinkhousefly
@the_real_littlepinkhousefly 3 ай бұрын
I loved watching all the BTS videos on the DVDs eons ago when I bought them (both theatrical cuts and extended editions). It's mind-blowing how much detail they put into everything from hobbit holes to clothes to eating utensils. I also think it's awesome that Weta called their miniatures "bigatures" because they were larger, in most cases, than typical film miniatures. These movies are the best, and will be around for eons.
@fluffybirdy7720
@fluffybirdy7720 3 ай бұрын
Your channel is so underrated. Great video about a great film trilogy.
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@obamacare9681
@obamacare9681 2 ай бұрын
Props and practical effects will always look better than cgi
@carolynallisee2463
@carolynallisee2463 2 ай бұрын
A friend and I heard that Peter Jackson was going to make a Lord of the Rings film trilogy some years beforehand, and what we read made us both very excited. Seeing how he envisioned his films were going to be set our expectations very high, and I'm pleased to say, those expectations were exceeded by some margin. And yes, even now, so many years later, those films do not disappoint in any way!
@hastekulvaati9681
@hastekulvaati9681 2 ай бұрын
I was exciting when I heard Peter Jackson was making Lord of the Rings because of the magical clay world in Heavenly Creatures.
@Benetkabc2nd
@Benetkabc2nd 2 ай бұрын
As Isengard lover that is great! Thank you!
@smey02
@smey02 Ай бұрын
dont think we can ever go back to such kind of filmmaking as we had in the 2000s with lord of the rings, harry potter star wars and so on. That was true perfection
@VashTheStampede4K
@VashTheStampede4K Ай бұрын
*Practical and special effects at their finest.*
@gsdlife09
@gsdlife09 29 күн бұрын
My favorite movie franchise of all time. It is true it has aged amazingly. PJ and all the people who worked on the movies did an amazing job. The VFR is so seamless that the viewer just accept it( eg the Balrog). In many movies you can see the superimposed VFR image( eg the Rancor from Return of the Jedi) and even today with the predominate use of the green screens. In PJ LOTR everything just flows together. Every detail was meticulously researched and incorporated in such a way that seems unnoticed by us like Eowyn and Merry on the phony pony in the battle of Minas Tirith. The chargins cavalry was so well placed around them while the camera was focusing on them that they appeared to be part of charge itself. and don't make me start on the makeup department. Until few months ago( and I have watched the movie many times) I didn't noticed until it was pointed to me that in the final scene of the two towers when the battle of Helm's deep was one that the person on Eomer horse wasn't Eomer at all but his stunt double. It is just mind blowing to know that the post production team who had looked very carefully at each frame had managed to miss that. Congratulation to the makeup department as it took me 20 years to see that.
@calmdown3842
@calmdown3842 3 ай бұрын
exactly and nowadays the movie makers change the whole plot and want the movie to be famous just like the books, the only movies that stayed true to the books are HP movies and LOTR are legendary, however, examples like Vampire Academy where the books were brilliant but the movie makers changed the ethnicity of the main characters, changed the plot and they want it to be famous?
@MrACSRC
@MrACSRC 2 ай бұрын
No the HP movies were atrocious compared to the books IMO...
@MrACSRC
@MrACSRC 2 ай бұрын
No the HP movies were atrocious compared to the Book IMHO
@chandandharana7492
@chandandharana7492 Ай бұрын
Lmao. harry potter and LOTR movies don't follow books as truthfully as you seem to think. What they actually succeeded in was capturing the soul of the original work even if they changed some of the original plot.
@BigCMiner
@BigCMiner 27 күн бұрын
You’re awear that both of the film series you listed as ones that didn’t change things from the books actually changed loads right? Not saying it was a bad thing but like, theres giant scenes like the barrow downs that aren’t in lotr. And really important characters like peeves that aren’t in HP.
@calmdown3842
@calmdown3842 24 күн бұрын
@@BigCMiner Yeah but compared to others, HP and LOTR there isn't that HUGE difference, I have read the books, and watched the movies. Now, they change the whole thing, bring book 2 into movie 1! How?
@Qrtuop
@Qrtuop 2 ай бұрын
Great vid. Subscribed
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@DrToonhattan
@DrToonhattan 2 ай бұрын
I wonder where this model is now. I hope it still exists.
@darth_yoda
@darth_yoda 2 ай бұрын
I remember being an 19 old brat getting comfy in seats of my local theater for the release of Fellowship along side of a friend. We were both blown away by how beautiful the movie were back in 2001 that we DID the same for Two towers ending with us going for a cavalcade were we watch the two first ending with Return of the King midnight premier in the same theater and with the same seats we had for the two first movies :P It was awesome
@ireneuszfus8398
@ireneuszfus8398 Ай бұрын
A quality on it's own. I highly doubt such film, with such devotion to detail will ever again be made
@Quonzer
@Quonzer Ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The LotR trilogy is a modern wonder of the world.
@Snuzzlekin
@Snuzzlekin Ай бұрын
I still have issues with the bad CGI were the group is running through the mines. It's a shot from far away with all those pillars. That CGI group looks so off to me compared to the rest of the movies...
@BigBenEtLumiere
@BigBenEtLumiere Ай бұрын
WHERE THE HELL IS THE ORTHANC TOWER MODEL TODAY ????!!!!!! I want to find it, and TAKE IT HOME ! 😂😂
@FireHam
@FireHam Ай бұрын
Nothing (barely nothing) made today has this much effort put into them..
@Dampfhammer666
@Dampfhammer666 Ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the Lengh in meters, within the video. As a European my mind can't even imagine what 59 feet is :D
@arg3646
@arg3646 2 ай бұрын
The BEST 💯💯💯💯💯
@Hdhhdhdjsjnkoi
@Hdhhdhdjsjnkoi 24 күн бұрын
I still love to play Lotr 2 on isengard base😊 love it
@workhousefitness4424
@workhousefitness4424 2 ай бұрын
I love this movie trilogy. Has to be one of the best trilogies ever made
@mevans4953
@mevans4953 26 күн бұрын
As time foes on and our screens get better I’m noticing the age of the films. We dont have CRTs anymore, and you dont have to go to a movie theather to see a big high resolution screen like in the old times.
@Mindblazter80
@Mindblazter80 Ай бұрын
This movie is epic, love it.
@Snow-Willow
@Snow-Willow 2 ай бұрын
No matter how good CGI gets, it will NEVER stand up to good old fashioned practical effects, especially in the long run. I'm so glad that Jackson used them in as many places as he could because it shows in the longevity of these films and how well they hold up.
@htf5555
@htf5555 Ай бұрын
masterpiece
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland Ай бұрын
Jackson called these enormous miniatures: 'biggatures.'
@alexworm1707
@alexworm1707 Ай бұрын
There are somethings that hold up well to this day, but other things looks ridiculous
@AndSendMe
@AndSendMe 3 ай бұрын
I still hear Saruman's line when I see that shot in the thumbnail: "I have SEEN it!"
@fjLKA
@fjLKA 3 ай бұрын
"A Palantir is a dangerous tool Saruman."
@SebastienGendron-uk4po
@SebastienGendron-uk4po 3 ай бұрын
@@fjLKA Why....why should we fear to use it?
@mdc7081
@mdc7081 Ай бұрын
Did they preserved this?
@Mantle777
@Mantle777 27 күн бұрын
Lord of the Rings , Harry Potter and Matrix , the 3 best franchises of all times indeed
@DevMeloy
@DevMeloy 2 ай бұрын
How films should still be made, CGI isn't supposed to be noticed.
@DubiousDenarius
@DubiousDenarius 2 ай бұрын
Most of the time you don't notice it. You can bet on that.
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 2 ай бұрын
You didn’t notice it in LOTR, it was blatantly obvious in the terrible Hobbit trilogy.
@DevMeloy
@DevMeloy 2 ай бұрын
@@seed_drill7135 yup.
@CaptainBloodsail
@CaptainBloodsail 2 ай бұрын
Wasnt terrible but definetly nowhere as good as the lord id the ring films​@@seed_drill7135
@Andrew-iq5ud
@Andrew-iq5ud 27 күн бұрын
Yea the hobbit trilogy was a disaster it needs to be redone
@Liqweed1337
@Liqweed1337 Ай бұрын
yes
@qaskew24
@qaskew24 Ай бұрын
He should have done the Amazon version.
@martinsimeonov1563
@martinsimeonov1563 Ай бұрын
When you do scenography, using the same amount of time and people needed for cgi
@bigbonerecords.4080
@bigbonerecords.4080 2 ай бұрын
We're waiting for the silmarilion movie
@lgolem09l
@lgolem09l Ай бұрын
Well, to be honest, watching the movies in the current 4k HDR version reveals many cracks in the vfx that combine the landscapes and cgi or miniatures. And it's not particularly sharp 4k.
@rishabhsingh2010ok
@rishabhsingh2010ok 26 күн бұрын
And here we have Adipurush in India.
@striker8888
@striker8888 Ай бұрын
LOTR is a once in a lifetime trilogy.
@M_i_n_d_W_a_r
@M_i_n_d_W_a_r Ай бұрын
😍😍😍
@RisitasKEKW
@RisitasKEKW 25 күн бұрын
Facts
@alexmiles2002
@alexmiles2002 Ай бұрын
Is this Battlefront Updates talking?
@romangamingboy6083
@romangamingboy6083 2 ай бұрын
How much of the budget cost probably like 1 billion
@dan-lee
@dan-lee 2 ай бұрын
No.. ROP still have bigger budget than LOTR. That's why jackson take LOTR production in New Zealand because they cheaper in cost.
@leflyxdvd
@leflyxdvd Ай бұрын
aah yes even more facts i can annoy people with when we are watching the trilogy
@mgim7274
@mgim7274 2 ай бұрын
Better than marvel movies today
@Thinkythinkerton
@Thinkythinkerton Ай бұрын
The content>the “lookk
@Seriksy
@Seriksy Ай бұрын
Back when movies were actually good
@Kaldisti
@Kaldisti 2 ай бұрын
damn, I thought to be more realistic, Peter Jackson moved to Middle-Earth to make the movies
@timothyblake5532
@timothyblake5532 Ай бұрын
And ILM didn’t do it?
@digitalrandomart3049
@digitalrandomart3049 Ай бұрын
are you battlefront updates?
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates Ай бұрын
Hello there!
@Matthewwithers33
@Matthewwithers33 3 ай бұрын
Bigatures
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates 3 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@keaton718
@keaton718 2 ай бұрын
The creaziest part about all the great CGI in movies as old as LORT is that it isn't CGI at all. Today I bet they could do it all with CGI but I bet it still would cost more than practical effects, for movies as long as LOTR extended editions. CGI used to be so much harder to do, like back then I bet most movies would contract out individual shots to different effects studios, because it took so much time that no one effects studio could handle it all, so in the credits for a movie back then you'd see dozens of CGI effects companies listed. These days Disney would do it all in-house.
@btCharlie_
@btCharlie_ 2 ай бұрын
Like a good boy that I am, I rewatch LotR now and then, and really the single one thing that aged rather poorly in terms of visuals is the CGI keying of characters with fluffy hair, like Frodo. This is perhaps most obvious in scenes when Frodo and Sam are in Mordor whenever they're overlayed on top of volcano footage. Around their hair, the weird 2000s-photoshop-esque blur is very obvious to a modern day viewer. I wonder if that particular aspect could be improved when upscaling it with AI 🤔 I honestly have never noticed anything else to look bad enough to warrant a comment.
@Hotstepper99
@Hotstepper99 Ай бұрын
¨battlefront updates😮
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates Ай бұрын
Yes! Hello there! 😉
@tomashule2369
@tomashule2369 2 ай бұрын
Marvel should learn from Petter
@anisothmen3712
@anisothmen3712 29 күн бұрын
I hate cgi , I love models even if it is obvious sometimes
@madvada
@madvada Ай бұрын
I dont agree it still loks good. Some CGI scene actually look quite awful. But for the time when it was done and the limits of technology I give them all the respect Edit: actually I change my mind they do still look great. Just some cgi scenes/characters look unconvincing
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the swords, designed and built by a master swordmaker by hand, and the authentic costumes, and the all-star cast. A lot of things that made it a timeless masterpiece that were then cut for cheapness sake or for political signalling.
@jpsion
@jpsion Ай бұрын
how about the hobbit?
@CelestialNihil
@CelestialNihil 2 ай бұрын
How to make a good movie: 1. don't let it reflect world, time and politics we live in
@kasebrotworst7279
@kasebrotworst7279 Ай бұрын
Why do you add non optional subtitles to the video, when KZfaq gives a perfect subtitle and can also translate it in almost a hundred different languages??? You're just ruining the picture. Also the speaker is very good understandable, I'm not even native english speaker but can understand him very well. It's just distracting and make you look down and miss much of the video part when you do understand every single word anyway.
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 2 ай бұрын
LoTR paid attention. The Hobbit really didn't. And it shows.
@faustomadebr
@faustomadebr 2 ай бұрын
CGI is used to make things look real, so real stuff will always look better.
@SirSpaceboots
@SirSpaceboots 2 ай бұрын
just rewatched it all, actually doesn't hold anymore imo VFX wise
@Emankind
@Emankind 2 ай бұрын
So weird that the LOTR looks do good and The Hobbit so bad
@criert135
@criert135 2 ай бұрын
Because The Hobbit overused CGI instead of models, sets, animatronics and prosthetics
@FarkYouCCB
@FarkYouCCB 2 ай бұрын
but where are they taking the hobbits
@MiddleEarthUpdates
@MiddleEarthUpdates 2 ай бұрын
To Isengard!
@user-ly6pl3bk7j
@user-ly6pl3bk7j 2 ай бұрын
When everything is made by AI, it enters an uncanny valley that looks fake.
@sergeyt2947
@sergeyt2947 2 ай бұрын
Lotr was good because all elements were good. Including story. And this is the reason "hunt for gollum" will be bad.
@Blink_____
@Blink_____ 3 ай бұрын
That sea of skulls effect in ROTK didn't age well. at all
@TheBabyCaleb
@TheBabyCaleb 2 ай бұрын
It doesn’t look terrible to me.
@Blink_____
@Blink_____ 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBabyCaleb It doesn't look "terrible", but anyone with a discerning eye can tell what it is.
@topher9507
@topher9507 2 ай бұрын
You do realize they made like 10s of thousands of little bitty skulls for that.
@Blink_____
@Blink_____ 2 ай бұрын
@@topher9507 The compositing for the entire scene is very apparent in HD
@bimerbomer2241
@bimerbomer2241 Ай бұрын
becose new amazon series looks like shit simple answer
@Pocketkid2
@Pocketkid2 2 ай бұрын
Almost as good as the Star Wars prequels!
@criert135
@criert135 2 ай бұрын
lol, the prequels are a joke in comparison
@user-ib5gz5zl6f
@user-ib5gz5zl6f 2 ай бұрын
Because it used no fucking cgi. It did not look like a video game
@DubiousDenarius
@DubiousDenarius 2 ай бұрын
The trilogy used plenty of CGI. And, if you watch the behind the scenes documentaries, they didn't even hide it. On the contrary, they were proud of what they achieved with computer graphics. Unlilke many later movies that try to convince you they are all practical when, in fact, they are chock full of VFX shots.
@Fseb-uj1ih
@Fseb-uj1ih 2 ай бұрын
Some scenes kinda look shit today
@Dr.W.Krueger
@Dr.W.Krueger Ай бұрын
Maybe your taste is just "shit"
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