Why the Olympic monobob event is only for women

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2 жыл бұрын

What the monobob does and doesn't do for gender equality
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Bobsledding (or bobsleighing) is one of the oldest Olympic sports, dating back to the very first Winter Games in 1924. Back then, women were barred from competing in nearly every event except figure skating. Of the 250 athletes that arrived for the first Winter Olympics, only 11 were women.
Times have changed, of course. The Winter Olympics in Beijing is considered the most sex-balanced to date, with female athletes making up 45 percent of the roster. But sexist regulations and outdated “science” still creep in. Who could forget the 2021 Summer Olympics, the questionable testosterone tests that barred female sprinters from competing in an event? As recently as 2008, the Winter Olympics was riddled with controversy over gender inclusion issues; female aerial skiers sued the Vancouver Organizing Committee over alleged discrimination. In 2005, the president of the International Ski Federation stated that ski jumping "seems not to be appropriate for ladies from a medical point of view."
Uteruses, am I right?
As for bobsledding, it wasn’t until 2002 that female athletes were invited to participate in the games, but only in a single event - the two-women bob. Since 1932, men have had two events (the two-men and four-men bob). In 2022, a new all-women bobsledding event was introduced: the monobob, a single-person sled, but is it actually leveling the playing field? Maybe, but not entirely in the way you might think.
To read more about the rules and regulations and history of bobsledding check out these links from the IBSF: www.ibsf.org/images/federatio...
www.ibsf.org/en/our-sports/bo...
I also loved this graphic that shows how different all the tracks are: www.ibsf.org/en/tracks
The Lake Placid Museum is a great place to read about more specific history: www.lakeplacidnews.com/news/l...
*A previous version of this description mentioned the Norwegian handball team being fined at the 2021 Olympics for refusing to wear Bikini's - this was actually at the Euro 2021 tournament*
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@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
This video is focused on Olympic bobsledding, but that’s definitely not the only time bobsled athletes compete. In other events, women can (and do!) compete in 4-person sleds. In 2014, the International Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation even ruled that the four-person bob is gender-neutral. That year, Elana piloted a 4-person sled with 3 men behind her. Thanks for watching! -Kim
@bhakti235
@bhakti235 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, Ms. Mas
@K1ddkanuck
@K1ddkanuck 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so one thing this doesn't explain is, why aren't men allowed to monobob too? Obviously it would be best if all three types were open to both genders. But wouldn't allowing men to compete in monobob also further open up competition from countries that can't afford 2 and 4 man sleds?
@nbibby
@nbibby 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@johnnychang4233
@johnnychang4233 2 жыл бұрын
Are monobob inherently more safer than skeleton due to the extra body coverage of the pilot? Also why if women can compete in skeleton which imply more risk then they are banned from regular team bobsleigh in the Olympics?
@new_delhi
@new_delhi 2 жыл бұрын
So, why aren't both genders allowed to do the monobob?
@kanderson5555
@kanderson5555 2 жыл бұрын
What hasn't been made clear is the the monobob was introduced *instead* of the 4-woman bobsleigh because: - Cheaper to field a competitor therefore increasing accessibility to poorer Olympic committees - this makes it equal to the Bobsleigh World Cup which also has a women's only monobob and no 4-women bobsleigh event (Bobsleigh World Cup is run by the ISBF- who regulate professional bobsleigh and skeleton) - it was introduced at the 2016 Youth Winter Olympics and was popular (appeal to youth was a criteria) It ended up being only for women because they didn't abandon the 4-man bobsleigh, therefore although not equal in competitors, is now equal in sleigh events.
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
Thank your for bringing clarity into this. You explained more in one comment then they could in the entire video with a whole team of people working on it. That's because they had to fit their whole agenda into the video and you just had to fit truth into your comment.
@burnttoastbrain
@burnttoastbrain 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no reason why they can’t offer BOTH monosled and 4 person sled. Then they can limit the amount money spent on building a sled to ensure money some doesn’t win. Both things formula 1 and nascar does because they have the same issue
@Avantime
@Avantime 2 жыл бұрын
@@burnttoastbrain It's not just the sled, the bobsledders must travel around the world for the international events in order to be competitive, and with 4 men + team + sled the travel costs goes through the roof. The Olympics will keep offering the 4 men sled event because of tradition but even with the sled costs down, the same few nations will keep winning the events because only they can afford to not just send one, but multiple 4-men teams to events throughout the year. And the Alpine nations have the advantage because most of the top tier tracks are located in Europe, so they can simply drive.
@Kimjongilmao
@Kimjongilmao 2 жыл бұрын
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis what are you talking about? Truthfully, I don’t understand what agenda you’re saying is being pushed here. Angle? Sure. AGENDA? Chill out
@rightisright2556
@rightisright2556 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kimjongilmao I think you have to chill a little. Angle is when you are using a specific perspective or framework to approach a topic and I don't think it is that different to having an agenda which is having a specific goal in mind when producing such video. Surely everyone has an agenda... it's impossible not to have some kind of purpose.
@jlo9993
@jlo9993 2 жыл бұрын
What a confusing video. It was nice, and I enjoyed learning about bobsledding, but this didn't really tell me why the monobob event was just for women. It just told me that it was, and then talked about every other aspect of the bobbing events. I mean, I know now that bobsleds can go up to 150km/h, but I don't know why women are the only ones who can do monobobbing. All you guys explained was that, women won and then if they did it again their uteruses would fall out. And that was just a passing comment.
@sarahkatie7497
@sarahkatie7497 2 жыл бұрын
When you forget the thesis while writing the paper
@ahastar1141
@ahastar1141 2 жыл бұрын
basically they said its to give women an extra chance to medal that the men dont have to try and even the playing field out more for womens medal chances
@lucasmunro256
@lucasmunro256 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that your video answers the question posed in the title. You talk about the history of bobsled, and how women have been excluded from it. Don't get me wrong, the bits about monobob reducing the wall of entry to new athletes are very interesting, but irrelevant the the question posed in the title
@callummcausland3904
@callummcausland3904 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh it's quite a sour technique
@varveyok533
@varveyok533 2 жыл бұрын
Vox gonna vox.
@farisdaschuzz8834
@farisdaschuzz8834 2 жыл бұрын
For sure I was like when the question gonna be amswered? Turns out its not
@BooM-8
@BooM-8 2 жыл бұрын
Was just about to say the same thing 🤷‍♂️
@solkvist8668
@solkvist8668 2 жыл бұрын
It sounded like the answer was right at the end. Mens quad bobsled is already so prohibitively expensive that a vast majority of countries can’t afford to compete, let alone the less popular women’s 4 quad bobsled. The result is those 5 or so countries that even bother to participate would be the only ones competing in the first place, making for a very boring sport. The monobob is basically a more universal entry point to the sport that’s been opened up to women. Admittedly I’m not sure why men don’t also have the sport but I’d imagine both end up with it in time.
@Togher01
@Togher01 2 жыл бұрын
I did bobsleigh once... I crash on my first got at 100km/hr. It was a terrifying experience being dragged along the ice. After that, I swore I never do it again. That lasted 10 minutes and give it one more try. Couldn't let it beat me.
@jakehix8132
@jakehix8132 2 жыл бұрын
Can I have Bob Sleigh's number?
@burakkarakus5868
@burakkarakus5868 2 жыл бұрын
@Roenie Gaming right after that he started writing bobsleigh
@calebharders3347
@calebharders3347 2 жыл бұрын
So you did bobsleigh twice
@jponz85
@jponz85 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Sleigh belongs to the streetz
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakehix8132 I think his address is at the North Pole.
@aident0642
@aident0642 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised we didn’t get a 4 and 2 mixed. Because we have mixed everything else. Could have been interesting. Also maybe mono men but obviously if they could work out how to have an equal amount of sports.
@rasulpl
@rasulpl 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it would work - i think mixed teams would be 100% men. You get more push power at start, and later you get more weight going downhill - both giving you more speed.,
@aident0642
@aident0642 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasulpl nah if they did mixed but it had to be half and half like all the other mixed Olympic sports.
@ZacDonald
@ZacDonald 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasulpl Mixed Olympics events either have a set requirement or a set minimum for number of men and/or women on teams.
@wojciechsuwinski8831
@wojciechsuwinski8831 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main problem with introducing mixed bobsledding is that this is a team sport, not a group of individual performers (so more like basketball then ski jumping), which translates to having different roles (e.g. pilot has a vastly different role that the rest), which would lead to probably man always pushing and women piloting.
@DaveWraptastic
@DaveWraptastic 2 жыл бұрын
mixed everything else? Uhm, the vast majority of sports are not mixed at all. That is very much the exception.
@superpowerdragon
@superpowerdragon 2 жыл бұрын
i would like to know how many people play this sport, as far as i know there are only 17 tracks in the whole world (including the new one in Beijing 2022), adding the cost and time it requires, it seems that there aren't many people that can play this professionally.
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 2 жыл бұрын
There are only 5 speed skating rinks in North America. Lots of sports with tiny opportunity out there.
@imurcat7653
@imurcat7653 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougerrohmer yeah but you can speed skate on any hockey rink with the right colour dots on the ice. I’ve been speedskating since I was 6
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@imurcat7653 Skating fast isn't the same as speed skating, and more pertinently training for Olympic speed skating. It's not about skating in circles, but the correct lines and stuff. You need the proper rink for that.
@Blckjack18
@Blckjack18 2 жыл бұрын
16, one in Germany got destroyed by a natural disaster…
@lindseykent8577
@lindseykent8577 2 жыл бұрын
@@dougerrohmer Short track can be done on any hockey rink. It's better on Olympic-sized ice but not necessary. Many long-track speed skaters (in Canada anyway) have done training in some capacity on the short track ice. Also, outdoor long track ovals are a thing.
@AbsaluteWreckage
@AbsaluteWreckage 2 жыл бұрын
i love how this video doesnt answer the title at all
@ARONandCo
@ARONandCo 2 жыл бұрын
They always get me with these titles
@krimmy8459
@krimmy8459 2 жыл бұрын
You weren't listening then.
@oo0Spyder0oo
@oo0Spyder0oo 2 жыл бұрын
@@krimmy8459 so what’s the answer?
@mammajamma4397
@mammajamma4397 2 жыл бұрын
AT. ALL.
@ryansantiago941
@ryansantiago941 5 ай бұрын
Becoming a trend for VOX videos
@apoema42
@apoema42 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest the monobob sounds as the more interesting sport.
@C4chorroSa1sicha
@C4chorroSa1sicha 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the olympics are supposed to be about who is the best athlete, not who has the most money.
@AC-mp7cx
@AC-mp7cx 2 жыл бұрын
uhhhhh no
@juzloopz24
@juzloopz24 2 жыл бұрын
It is lol
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
youre just coping its really not that different
@apoema42
@apoema42 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitzblix9455 I don't have anything to cope for. All these sports are quite wacky but 4 people pushing a sled is the wackiest.
@TheWoblinGoblin
@TheWoblinGoblin 2 жыл бұрын
Austrian man here. We should make those events as open as possible. I don't understand why they wouldn't have 4 women sleds and mens' monobob, even if the field would be small at least in the beginning. The courses are ridiculously involved and expensive to build and we should get every possible use out of them. On the issue of finances. Well, tbh. coming from a country that is outfinnced in Summer sports by every other medium to large country, look, US, that's just top sport events right now. Your athletics and swimming programmes have the same "advantage" over us others . Yes we have a ridiculous amount of money, sponsoring etc pumped into alpine skiing, ski jump and so on, but yeah, that's they way to be competitive at that level. In the US it really differs not all that much, success breeds popularity for a sport, but there is an upfront investment. I have the utmost respect for alpine skiers from the US. They don't have the practically ridiculous support system we have here but at the games they are always at their best and are competitive. It is so awesome to see such dedicated athletes and they really deserve more attention, for being the underdogs against juggernauts and still coming out on top.
@daveclosinger6697
@daveclosinger6697 2 жыл бұрын
Have you watched bobsleigh, especially women's bobsleigh? There would be casualties, judging by how they drive monos and 2man bobs.
@utetopia1620
@utetopia1620 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't you watch the video? Their uterus would fall out... or something..
@ImCoolLikeThat
@ImCoolLikeThat 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the Olympic committee limits the total number of competitions. That's why they were going to eliminate wrestling from summer, in order to make room for competitions with higher viewership.
@Pfooh
@Pfooh 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is that it would skew trhe playing field even more. Countries with big budgets would copy over their designs from 4-man to 4-women, grab another 4 medals and get more funding next round. For countries not in the top, it would make it even harder to enter.
@lzh4950
@lzh4950 2 жыл бұрын
@@ImCoolLikeThat Also realised how many sports there're that feature not in Olympics but in other competitions e.g. Commonwealth, Asian (ASIAD), Southeast Asian (SEA) Games e.g. bowling, snooker, squash, _sepak takraw_ (volleyball but you bicycle-kick the ball over the net instead), _chinlong_ & other countries' martial arts e.g. _wushu, kabaadi, pencak silat_
@RobertNowland
@RobertNowland 2 жыл бұрын
‘Monobob’ is now the coolest sounding Olympic sport no question
@DanceySteveYNWA
@DanceySteveYNWA 2 жыл бұрын
Aka the Single-Roberto
@WormholeJim
@WormholeJim 2 жыл бұрын
The Louis Lonesome
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
what about skeleton pretty badass name if you ask me cross country sounds a bit nice too, anyways... nope
@D.Jay.
@D.Jay. 2 жыл бұрын
All sexs should be able to do Mono, Duo, and Quad. All countries should use the same sleds. Boom. Done.
@Gurumeierhans
@Gurumeierhans 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i dont know why not both sexes have the same categories for the events
@Yeah.316
@Yeah.316 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gurumeierhans well biologically men are stronger and it gives slight edege to all men team may be if they make 2 men and 2 women mandatory for a 4 team will balance it
@tomlam8684
@tomlam8684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gurumeierhans Yeah, just like rhymthic gymnastics.
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
@@julm7744 that's true.
@subotaiKhan
@subotaiKhan 2 жыл бұрын
@@julm7744 in the Olympics?
@jaysekhon8014
@jaysekhon8014 2 жыл бұрын
Being a brakeman in a sled accident is a guaranteed spine snapper lol
@misstekhead
@misstekhead 2 жыл бұрын
In general the Winter Olympics comes off as primarily made up of sports for the rich. Hence why it doesn’t nearly get the interest or watch ratings of the Summer Olympics. In general the Winter Olympics come off as unobtainable for most people.
@Dan007UT
@Dan007UT 2 жыл бұрын
I dont have a huge liking of any sport really but I think its way more fun to watch the winter olympics than the summer. my 0.02 lol
@soledieairvideos5974
@soledieairvideos5974 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true and the viewership is probably lower because there is a lot of countries who either don’t complete in the winter ones or only have 1-3 athletes representing the country. I do think though that the Winter Olympics are in someways more fun to watch though because so many sports operate at such high speeds.
@justin.booth.
@justin.booth. 2 жыл бұрын
But they didn't explain why they only added monobob for women? It seems to me it would make since to add it for both so that countries who can't afford the 4 person or two person bobsled could at least send one person. What's the advantage in limiting it to women? And for that matter why didn't they just add 4 person women's bobsled or mixed? Honestly I just have more questions now lol
2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed! I was yelling for them to EXPLAIN PLS!
@galador8089
@galador8089 2 жыл бұрын
there arent enough women to justify a four man event, you would have like 3 teams
@aesyamazeli8804
@aesyamazeli8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@galador8089 if there's not enough women but enough men then there's nothing wrong with monobob for men?
@ahastar1141
@ahastar1141 2 жыл бұрын
They said it at the very end. The reason its all women is to give women another chance at medaling. Since the men get the 2 and 4 man and women previously only had the 2, 6 men could medal but only 2 men could. Adding mono for women only is essentially giving them an extra chance to earn a medal that men cannot to try and even the playing field. They also noted that if they did women's 4, only the same 4-5 countries could afford to compete.
@SolinoOruki
@SolinoOruki 2 жыл бұрын
Wait did she actually answer the title question?
@JuanCamiloRomero
@JuanCamiloRomero 2 жыл бұрын
nooo
@gingeral253
@gingeral253 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be difficult to add a men’s mono and a women’s four man? I feel like the men’s mono could also let less financially supported teams to get a chance.
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
yeah there are probably a lot of men who want to do monobob bcs of the financials as you stated
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The reason there's still no 4 woman bob is because there's not enough women in the sport.
@specialopsdave
@specialopsdave 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrPeteChannel The reason why not many women are in the sport is because there is no 4-woman bobsled event. It's a vicious cycle which can be broken relatively easily by just adding it and finding 4 competitors, next time will be easier
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrPeteChannel No way. If there are 4women bobsled events the existing 4men teams just would find easily the good females to participate. A good pilot, and three powerful runners from track field or ski/skate world and thats it. No problem at all. The system now is idiotic and massively sexist.
@rushrush1209
@rushrush1209 2 жыл бұрын
At the Olympics, it would be hard unless you have a separate track for luge and skeleton vs bobsled. It seems that every day they have either luge, skeleton or bobsled on the track in the Olympics. Very hard to add more events and get all the races done in time.
@WearyKirin
@WearyKirin 2 жыл бұрын
The olypmics really needs to standardize equipment; it should be a competition between athletes not equipment manufacturers
@Avi2Nyan
@Avi2Nyan 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! If I wanna see the best engineered vehicles, I'd just watch F1 all day
@swunt10
@swunt10 2 жыл бұрын
sport has always been about equipment and the equipment got amazingly good thanks to that.
@ahastar1141
@ahastar1141 2 жыл бұрын
I mean most olympic sports come down to equipment. Even when you look at super G, it's about which team can get the best wax combo for the skis given the snow conditions. Most sports have parameters, but each country is going to work in the grey area as the mentioned to give their people an edge
@srthebox4946
@srthebox4946 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the opposite for stuff like nascar, I wish it was like the old times where the companies would actually try to one up each other with the cars and them being actual cars you can buy instead of blobs
@FurryMeatloaf
@FurryMeatloaf 2 жыл бұрын
@@swunt10 I learned that when I played golf in high school. I had to play with a set borrowed of K-Mart clubs. My scores were not good and I just figured I was a bad golfer. Then I went to visit my uncle. He took me golfing and let me use his Pings. I hit the ball twice as far as I ever did with my cheap clubs.
@rlevy13
@rlevy13 2 жыл бұрын
.... so? Such a non story.
@walterwhite6896
@walterwhite6896 2 жыл бұрын
The engineer should get a metal too
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
Then too many men would get medals again ;)
@xstrawarot
@xstrawarot 2 жыл бұрын
today i learned that bobsledding is no fair sport, because everybody has a different sled and the richer teams wins.
@andersandersen6295
@andersandersen6295 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much goes for 80% of all sports.
@ohyes7170
@ohyes7170 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, person with better swimming suit won, F1 race is actually all about how great your car is. rich country has alot of natural grass training field for football game, poor countries dont. It's all a sure thing.
@dukeloo
@dukeloo 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to participate in a monobob! It's more like a soapbox derby sled.
@jatinbangar4371
@jatinbangar4371 2 жыл бұрын
..but you are not a woman, Alan
@heidelbergaren5054
@heidelbergaren5054 2 жыл бұрын
@@jatinbangar4371 Maybe he doesn’t need to be in the olympics…
@omeee
@omeee 2 жыл бұрын
@@jatinbangar4371 But he can identify as one. With more power and weight, he has a good advantage.
@crinkly.love-stick
@crinkly.love-stick 2 жыл бұрын
@@omeee not to mention the false bravado thats so famous for men's successes (and deaths)
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
@@jatinbangar4371 yes its sad that he cant
@anazhelyazkova5687
@anazhelyazkova5687 2 жыл бұрын
There's a similarly interesting story in the history of ski jumps - it's worth the research for a VOX video, especially with the latest developments over ski jumpers' disqualifications due to their "inappropriate" suits :)
@gmdille
@gmdille 2 жыл бұрын
They literally did an episode on it a few days ago lol
@joking2052
@joking2052 2 жыл бұрын
@@gmdille Not on the sexism
@vinnieg6161
@vinnieg6161 2 жыл бұрын
yes also a very important issue..
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
@@enttae7492 not really
@blitzblix9455
@blitzblix9455 2 жыл бұрын
@@enttae7492 FIS says the suits that violated rules were produced exclusively for the Olympics and and were not tested in advance, an opportunity that just a few nations took advantage of before arriving in Beijing. -dailymailuk
@slimpickens9103
@slimpickens9103 2 жыл бұрын
The Monobob sounds like a health symptom.
@Levitationable
@Levitationable 2 жыл бұрын
Those old sleds look so odd compared to the modern ones!
@tillthiemann6448
@tillthiemann6448 2 жыл бұрын
Why not a four-athlete category for women too?
@galador8089
@galador8089 2 жыл бұрын
There isn‘t enough women athletes, which id what they dodge around off in this video
@owenreaney6864
@owenreaney6864 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree, we should also have the monobob for men, so it’s equal for anyone.
@bazzle_brush
@bazzle_brush 2 жыл бұрын
250k for a bob sled. No one told the Jamaican bobsled team 😆
@luca7069
@luca7069 2 жыл бұрын
Very few units produced each year, high tech materials, super stringent requirements in terms of performance and safety. Not really hard to understand why they're so expensive.
@BleachFan2588
@BleachFan2588 2 жыл бұрын
@@luca7069 as explained, monobob sleds only cost 15.000. Sure, bigger is more expensive, but at most it'd be 25.000. The rest of the expense is research, which wouldn't be needed if all sleds were made equal like in most sports.
@deannilvalli6579
@deannilvalli6579 2 жыл бұрын
No one has suggested a mixed 4 person team? Seems a pretty simple improvement.
@DanceySteveYNWA
@DanceySteveYNWA 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody mentions the Brake-man until the brakes fail...
@DatTran
@DatTran 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen any answer for the question in the title.
@Markone99
@Markone99 2 жыл бұрын
Soooooo... Why?? You really didn't answer the question, you just explained this sport and why winning is related to money.
@blitz7765
@blitz7765 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, just one question. Why is the Olympic monobob sport is only for women?
@BillC-64
@BillC-64 2 жыл бұрын
That's easy. According to today's standard that everything must to equal no matter if it made any sense, it's given to women in their attempt to equal the chances to men. If they also gave it men, then the women would complain that it is not equal, hence back to square one. Having a one women sled is cheaper so more countries can compete and that's important when introducing a new version of the sport. If they made it a 4 "man" sled, which requires more money and more women they would not have enough competition.
@blitz7765
@blitz7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillC-64 good point. You could also, you know, have all genders compete in all 3 events.
@BillC-64
@BillC-64 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitz7765 In time, you will see that. This is a spot gap "fix". Remember that there very few tracks (16) around the entire world that you can train in that are sanctioned. You need people interesting in spending a lot of time training, lots of money and the correct facilities.
@blitz7765
@blitz7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillC-64 I don't actually have an argument against that Time to go cry
@EC-ol8nz
@EC-ol8nz 2 жыл бұрын
As a man, I feel left out 😞😢 I want to monobob too👍🏿
@ohcolowisc8941
@ohcolowisc8941 2 жыл бұрын
"Leveling the playing field". FYI there are 46 women's medal events at the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics and only 45 men's medal events. If you want to "level" anything than add one more medal for MEN.
@ohcolowisc8941
@ohcolowisc8941 2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to add, there were 174 women's events at the 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics and only 165 men's events. Level the playing field!
@Avi2Nyan
@Avi2Nyan 2 жыл бұрын
It's about people from different and poorer countries being able to have a chance tho
@Avi2Nyan
@Avi2Nyan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ohcolowisc8941 they should! Give men stuff like rhythmic gymnastics
@ohcolowisc8941
@ohcolowisc8941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Avi2Nyan I so agree! There is even a Western version and a Japanese version. They can make a pick.
@rainybeet
@rainybeet 2 жыл бұрын
Never answered the question of why 1 person sledding is just for women. It seems the best way to solve the problem would be to standardize all sleds since currently the only variant to rely solely on athlete skill is the monobob, and it would solve the affordability problem as well as the equal opportunity problem.
@nirfz
@nirfz 2 жыл бұрын
Basically they did answer it: the IOC wanted an equal number of bobsled disciplines for men and women in olympic games. And due to lower costs for the participating teams they decided to use monobob for women as the second event and kept the mens events as they were.
@ltcars27
@ltcars27 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Germanys medals dont get combined, but are separated into 3 countries
@robertjones4201
@robertjones4201 2 жыл бұрын
You can't combine them fairly in a comparison, East and West Germany would have been competing against each other for decades so in any medal tally there'd be a decent period of time where their tally is inflated by having twice as many opportunities to get medals in those Olympic events before reunification.
@ltcars27
@ltcars27 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertjones4201 Yeah, but then at least combine west Germany and today's Germany
@robertjones4201
@robertjones4201 2 жыл бұрын
@@ltcars27 That would be the best option yes, but it would also require Vox going against their ethos of getting everything wrong about anything outside of America.
@AsphaltAntelope
@AsphaltAntelope 2 жыл бұрын
The dance at the end should be at the end of every Vox video. And at the start. And in the middle.
@venusjinn4984
@venusjinn4984 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@Wolfhound_81
@Wolfhound_81 2 жыл бұрын
Never actually answered the question you put into the title, but the article was interesting.
@peekaboo7958
@peekaboo7958 2 жыл бұрын
*The synchronized swimming and softball and rhythmic gymnastics are exclusive to women in the olympics and no man cry about it!*
@Avi2Nyan
@Avi2Nyan 2 жыл бұрын
They should!!!!
@xMckingwill
@xMckingwill 2 жыл бұрын
Im confused im not sure what the problem was. What i heard wasnt that there was some issue between men and women but what countries had the money to build better sled.
@CastleBomb44
@CastleBomb44 2 жыл бұрын
Less chances for women to potentially earn a metal than for men. Men have a 4 person sled, women have a monopod for one Person to potentially earn a metal
@justin___
@justin___ 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see what would happen if the 4-person team could be any combo of men and women. If that were allowed, the engineers would crunch through the numbers and I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be more efficient in some way to have half and half. Or maybe a woman driver and breaker and 2 men to push. In any event, I'd be curious to see what the engineers came up with.
@omeee
@omeee 2 жыл бұрын
It would be 4 men. They have more power and weight. If you put 2 men and 2 women into that, the women will always be the driver and breaker because the men have much more power as pushers. It just does not make much sense for an already niche sport.
@amyx231
@amyx231 2 жыл бұрын
Women would in theory be smaller and lighter. I’m not sure lighter is better, when gravity is in play.
@justin___
@justin___ 2 жыл бұрын
@@amyx231 Exactly, though. But heavy also means harder to accelerate. Maybe it depends on the descent height. Or the number of turns. Or any other number of variables. Maybe it makes sense to put different ratios depending on the course. I just wanna see the math.
@justin___
@justin___ 2 жыл бұрын
@@omeee More power, but slower acceleration. There are still a lot of variables to contend with other than just top speed.
@omeee
@omeee 2 жыл бұрын
@@justin___ you are not the brightest in physics, are you? Even in the video they said there is a weight limit. More weight, definetely faster. And more weight in atheletes is usually more muscles and more power at the start.
@armanrashidi4253
@armanrashidi4253 2 жыл бұрын
any backstory on the stamp featured at 12 seconds into the video featuring a Tanzania Dar es Salaam bobsled stamp?
@kopipal5484
@kopipal5484 2 жыл бұрын
So my only question is: Why the Olympic monobob event is only for women?
@guppy719
@guppy719 2 жыл бұрын
They olympic committee has decided that their needs to be the exact same number of events for men and women.
@benw3864
@benw3864 2 жыл бұрын
They should have a mono, duo, and quad for both men and women and mixed team events for duo and quad. They should also all use the same sleds. Boom problem solved.
@SylviaRustyFae
@SylviaRustyFae 2 жыл бұрын
Mixed for monobob too; can only compete if youre nonbinary or intersex.
@KC-pi6po
@KC-pi6po 2 жыл бұрын
You have my support allready because of the high quality of your videos But I need to say it, that little dance at the end tops it all off
@dennisverweij4817
@dennisverweij4817 2 жыл бұрын
that argument that women have half a chance of winning a medal is such a weird one. It is like saying that the 100m dash has a 1/4 chance of winning a medal compared to the 4x100m relay, or 1/22 chance compared to football (soccer) at the Olympics. In the end, all the literal medals count as one in the medal charts, and they won it as a team, not as individuals.
@anonymous-eg4tj
@anonymous-eg4tj 2 жыл бұрын
I think it makes sense. Sure, it ends up being equal in the medal tally, but in practical terms it's still unequal for the actual athletes. Having half as many spots for women to compete in Bobsledding means half as many women get a chance to participate in the olympics, half as many women will receive the sponsorship offers that kind of exposure attracts, and half as many women will get paid a medal bonus/salary by their home country (assuming said country pays a salary/medal bonus). Overall it just further contributes to the gap between men and women in sport, which doesn't really seem in line with the ethos the olympics purports to uphold.
@milanmach2379
@milanmach2379 2 жыл бұрын
You're looking at it from the country perspective, they used the competitor perspective. The 4th best US sprinter doesn't even get to participate in the individual 100m Olympic event, whereas they get to do that in the relay. The more members a team sport has, the more competitors can participate from a single country in an Olympic event.
@Chris-rg6nm
@Chris-rg6nm 2 жыл бұрын
@@anonymous-eg4tj Why do an equal number of women and men need to be in the Olympics?
@CrazyHorse151
@CrazyHorse151 2 жыл бұрын
How is this even a point of discussion? Amazing.
@dmona1766
@dmona1766 2 жыл бұрын
I gasped when they said $100k, why is this a thing. People have wages that are a quarter of that
@EForrest88
@EForrest88 2 жыл бұрын
kind of silly how many olympic sports still don't have standardised equipment, just feels like it defeats the purpose.
@Marsssification
@Marsssification 2 жыл бұрын
You did not answer the question in the title.
@michalvalko248
@michalvalko248 2 жыл бұрын
When you realize that 2nd 3rd and 4th guy has never seen his ride...
@sungillk12
@sungillk12 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming this is just the first step to grow womens bobsled globally, it makes sense to build a critial mass of experienced pilots. It seems the next logical step is to have womens 4 person sleds that are equal and reasonably priced. That will increase the number of competitors and still make it accessible to more countries
@prabhanjana1139
@prabhanjana1139 2 жыл бұрын
This video never answered the question. But why?
@danhayek
@danhayek 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like many Winter Olympic sports are overly equipment intensive leading to rich countries constantly dominating. By comparison look at sprinting where Jamaica is highly competitive and dominant. That’s true athleticism to me. Jumping in expensive gear down a hill? Not so much.
@aesyamazeli8804
@aesyamazeli8804 2 жыл бұрын
Winter Olympic is rich people Olympic.
@ahastar1141
@ahastar1141 2 жыл бұрын
Even sprinting has some tech in it surrounding the spikes
@niranjanbalu6817
@niranjanbalu6817 2 жыл бұрын
Should end with "And Bob is your uncle !"
@matt92550
@matt92550 2 жыл бұрын
These type of olympic sports are not inclusive. Its expensive.
@jacobhanekamp2534
@jacobhanekamp2534 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Mixed Events? Is that ran in the Olympics or in other competitions?
@derorje2035
@derorje2035 2 жыл бұрын
The best part: The GDR (east Germany) did exist for only 40 years but Italy and Canada (who are both far larger and richer) didn't get as much olympic medals as the GDR.
@derorje2035
@derorje2035 2 жыл бұрын
@bruce parka Yeah, you are right, the doping program was uge. But doping doesn't affect bob sleighing that much. I mean stearing and aerodynamics do have a much greater impact than the few meters at the start of a track.
@triciac.5078
@triciac.5078 2 жыл бұрын
hahah!! "Our uterus would fall out or something. Who knows." LOL
@vasilerogojan4520
@vasilerogojan4520 2 жыл бұрын
Another day, another video related to the 2022 Olympics. Interesting as usual.
@Lcngopher
@Lcngopher 2 жыл бұрын
The 2010 4 man gold medal sled for the us was built by a company created by a former nascar cup series driver. He started the company after visiting test runs in the early 90s and seeing they didnt use american built sleds and set out to change that
@peterjohnson617
@peterjohnson617 2 жыл бұрын
when did anyone ever say life was meant to be equal ???/
@aprilsmith3683
@aprilsmith3683 2 жыл бұрын
This was a truly interesting and informative video... "Monobob"... May the best woman on the day win the event... 🇿🇦
@jimmyhsp
@jimmyhsp 2 жыл бұрын
this olympic upload schedule is awesome
@EricJohnsonGuru
@EricJohnsonGuru 2 жыл бұрын
Poor timing on this video considering an article just came out talking about all the traumatic brain injuries these people receive. Bobsledding in general it’s seeming like not a good idea
@macblair27
@macblair27 2 жыл бұрын
Great Interview!!!!!
@Johan-di6md
@Johan-di6md 2 жыл бұрын
Can't they have more weight categories? Thus giving more athletes a chance at a medal.
@DorkDork87
@DorkDork87 2 жыл бұрын
Is it even a sport when it's the expensive technology that wins medals, not people?
@se4949
@se4949 2 жыл бұрын
“With five countries dominating the podium” *skips Germany
@matthewwelsh294
@matthewwelsh294 2 жыл бұрын
East Germany does not exist anymore
@ChristianJiang
@ChristianJiang 2 жыл бұрын
4:16 Omg East Germany wasn’t bad, considering how it hasn’t been a country for 30 years
@garcipat
@garcipat 2 жыл бұрын
That breakmans position is terrifying. this will break your neck in an instant in case of a crash..
@breekwhal
@breekwhal 2 жыл бұрын
You should have named the Jamaican athletes you were talking about: Jazmine Fenlator-Victorian and Carrie Russell!!! They have names!!!
@pistolen87
@pistolen87 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think a win in 4 man bobsled counts as four gold medals like you imply.
@Earth2LalaLand
@Earth2LalaLand 2 жыл бұрын
I think they meant it in the context of promoting participation bc more athletes can compete in a 4 person team to rep their country (so 3 more people can rep that country).
@envera9553
@envera9553 2 жыл бұрын
I think she means that four athletes can get a medal instead of just one so more people would be interested in trying the sport.
@tubthungusbychumbungus
@tubthungusbychumbungus 2 жыл бұрын
its still 3 more people with a medal
@Krashnachen
@Krashnachen 2 жыл бұрын
and... is that the point of the sport? Give as many people as possible medals? Idk what point they're trying to make
@temistogen
@temistogen 2 жыл бұрын
1 event,1 category=1 medal,even tho people get 4 there. In basketball,football and waterpolo we have the same thing. 1 medal no matter how many on the team got it.
@rolandmclovin1499
@rolandmclovin1499 2 жыл бұрын
That closing dance tho
@morsecodereviews1553
@morsecodereviews1553 2 жыл бұрын
I came to hear someone say "monobob". I wasn't disappointed.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Is the complaint that it's a potential for only one medal rather than four?
@alvapazz
@alvapazz 2 жыл бұрын
4:19 why aren't W and E Germany added up to the main Germany?
@houseplant1016
@houseplant1016 2 жыл бұрын
West-Germany and East-Germany.
@corsel6911
@corsel6911 2 жыл бұрын
So what was the reason for women only monobob? I don't know if it was very well explained.
@trevorgeiger1952
@trevorgeiger1952 2 жыл бұрын
Yo they really made a video on how sledding is sexist 😂
@antoniovgmx
@antoniovgmx 2 жыл бұрын
Monobob sounds like spec racing which is dope 👀 all in the driver
@dickiesmith3283
@dickiesmith3283 2 жыл бұрын
If we're so hellbent on "equality" 4 man, 2 man, Men's Monobob, 4 women, 2 women, womens monobob. It... It just makes sense!
@Dr.Pepper001
@Dr.Pepper001 2 жыл бұрын
Should I shed tears over this woman-splaining of how oppressed the ladies are? Okay, here goes.... boohoo.
@AC-im4hi
@AC-im4hi 2 жыл бұрын
Monolob actually looks way cooler than the others.
@presidentzeus2359
@presidentzeus2359 2 жыл бұрын
4:58 Wait? Why can't there be 2 individuals from the same country compete in separate monobobs?
@JuanCamiloRomero
@JuanCamiloRomero 2 жыл бұрын
so why is it only for women?
@ylstorage7085
@ylstorage7085 2 жыл бұрын
in this sport, I will be the dead weight guy... or the guy with dead weight... or the dead guy with weight
@FantasKanal
@FantasKanal 2 жыл бұрын
4:18 yeah, but you left out the 2 germanys. Germany go brrr.
@jesot
@jesot 2 жыл бұрын
It was the absolute worst event to watch on that (terrible) track.
@greenforce888
@greenforce888 Жыл бұрын
"Does this actually level the playing field?" No, the men still compete separately.
@AZDiabloVids
@AZDiabloVids 2 жыл бұрын
Wider track with 4 - 6 teams competing head to head would be more exciting.
@CharlieTheNerd91
@CharlieTheNerd91 2 жыл бұрын
3:52 my OCD flared up extremely at that frame.....
@skojuzija
@skojuzija 2 жыл бұрын
Give them back and front wings, and Venturi tunels like in F1😂
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't become the next buzzfeed... this channel has so many good things about it it would be a shame.
@TheRandompaint
@TheRandompaint 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with John McEnroe, let's mix all sports.
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 2 жыл бұрын
Men and women are biologically different and in many many sports it would be very unfair.
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 2 жыл бұрын
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis exactly. It would be quite funny.
@2adamast
@2adamast 2 жыл бұрын
By now with testosterone under 5 nmol/L you're ok to compete as a women, no requirements for men. So 100% of the women and 1% of the men can cross compete.
@Jacob-Vivimord
@Jacob-Vivimord 2 жыл бұрын
I think this video might have the wrong title, because I am no clearer on the answer to that question than I was at the beginning.
@kwamenimako4040
@kwamenimako4040 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@why78yu
@why78yu 2 жыл бұрын
You did an excellent story! I also liked your style.
@DannyBPlays
@DannyBPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I love the video but it doesn't answer the question posed in the title
@growingmelancholy8374
@growingmelancholy8374 2 жыл бұрын
No one should be allowed to participate in this evil sport.
@discosecret6363
@discosecret6363 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, monobob has quickly become my favorite variety!
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