LOL, I feel like a spice girl now.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 This comment and the response is just EPIC!

That would be pretty awesome, but I'm probably too small a channel. Loopop has over 100 times my subscriber base which is why they get all the cool toys. I do like my original Polybrute though and the new distortion effects from the latest firmware sound fantastic. It's a really deep synth and the sound is top notch if you ever decide to bite the bullet and purchase one.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 I would not lust for gear sent to you, it comes with lots of responsibilities. You go on being you and make those high quality videos I have come to love.

Having one knob per function is nice too.

Thanks chokocat. Yeah, it's kind of sad to me that this great tool never caught on. Hopefully Arturia puts this keybed into some more affordable controllers.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Ensoniq gave it a really good go, and who knows had Creative not killed them then maybe they would have been more successful with it. But even Ensoniq had started producing keyboards without it. I think it is interesting, in a very good way, that the Arturia system looks to be directly inspired by the Ensoniq system. I had wondered that since the patents must have expired by now why no one had chosen to use their technology.

Thanks Jim. Yeah, there is no perfect synth unfortunately. If we could mash an Oberheim or Moog with all the controls and FX on the Polybrute and add a top end Fatar keybed, then it would probably be close to perfect.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Yes indeed! I have heard from several friends who've played the PB12 and tell me it does feel fantastic, so here's hoping!

@@JimDaneker thx for confirming what I had spied on Loop's demo, I never wanted to mention it, but an uneven key @ that asking $ is only acceptable at the Behringer camp with their budget range. Someone got upset, an owner of the PB12 when I pointed out that it wasn't doing any low registers like the Teo-5 was displaying. I think it comes down to gain staging and how you have to for more voices, have a lower gain so you don't clip, so 12 voices vs 5, ofc the 5 will have more bass, now given when you lower gain staging you also have an affect through the Fletcher Munson curve, lower amplitudes will always affect your frequency range. I am not over fond of the sound when you strip the fx of the PB or PB12. Just doesn't drive it home for me, but the Teo 5 has something that I like. Fwiw, that owner is under NDA from Arturia so ofc he is going to defend the synth, I was just loling that he could be defensive over an opinion? If you're going to release a keybed that looks like a 60's British teenage with their teeth (wildly exaggerating here lol) and call it a flagship synth, I think you better get some braces on that keybed. The Osmose keybed is far superior, has lateral movement and you don't need to replace a bunch of keys, you can replace 1 as they're independent. I do like the Osmose, but I like how the Teo 5 sounds and they're priced very close to each other, I just don't have room for both. Thanks for being honest, I mean when people are going nuts over something new, that really hasn't done more than anything else that exists other than the keybed, and the keybed is wonky, I think I would give it a pass.

Seems like its at a pretty decent price point too.

Me too. Glad you liked the video.

I'd love to try out anything that UDO has. I've yet to see one in person.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Me to. I went to Chuck Levin's WMC here in DC and they are a keyboard heaven - they have almost everything but not the UDOs

Someone else commented on the UBXa also. I did not know that had a PAT keybed.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 the UBXa is their first with Poly After Touch. All their polys will have it. Also the voice count is 16 on the UBXa but will be the same amount of 16 for their other poly clones. For the amount of modulation and what not, you are mighty well served with the PB12. Much more versatile and fun.

The ubxa has wobbly knobs, screen in the wrong place, and sounds very little like the obxa.

Maybe one day synths will be like guitars and actually be available in a range of colors.

Beige is the new black.

Very cool on the PB12. I've heard mixed things on the Iridium. It sure looks nice, but pricey for what you get.

The OG Polybrute is awesome as a controller. The morphee, touch ribbon and duo aftertouch are fantastic. All the knobs mean that you can control a lot of stuff too. I only wish they had a 73 or 76 key version.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018I’d really like to see a video in depth about using this as a midi controller. That’s half the reason I want one. I love the analog sound of the Polybrute but I work in the box a lot. Seems like a nice workflow to have per knob midi controller instead of having to remember what knob you programmed to do what on a generic midi controller.

I've heard good things about the Numa X. Yeah, there are a number of older synths with great keybeds. Heck, the Triton is over 25 years old and if I go to Guitar Center, there are very few synths there with keybeds that are its equal.

Says regular aftertouch, but it's a Fatar keybed. I've never played one though.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 oh, my mistake. And I heard Fatar keyboards are really good and a bit higher end. Hence the price tag for a Midi controller.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 i have the keylab 88 since May 1st.....at first you will hate the keyboard as it feels musshy and velocity is low....tweaking with the computer does not help.......funnily (if this word exists)...after 2 months...i have gotten used to the keybed as it forces me to hit the keys correctly as they are heavy...and its beginning to sound nicer too.... jus for comparison, i also have the Montage 88, Nord piano5, Nord stage 4, Hydrasynth deluxe, Korg wavestate and Opsix, Akai MPC Key 61, Korg Pa5x, Casio Pxs5000 and 7000, and just got the Summit as well as Yamaha ps500... so i just play whatever the keyboard feels like.....

yeah...this cuppachino color on th pb12 is a real yuks

MIDI 2.0 sure is taking a long time to get implemented. I don't see too many products boasting about it. My very first keyboard was an EMU PK6 because I couldn't afford the Triton that I really wanted. When I finally had enough money to get a used 61 key Triton, the keybed difference was very apparent. Now it's hard to go back. It's one of the reasons I don't pick up a lot of hardware. Seems like you have to shell out 2-3K to get a high end keybed these days.

I would put controls on the PAT first, but the Morphee could still be useful and for sure I would remove it for an extra octave or more. Yes, it's Sweetwater. If you ever get the chance to go, you should definitely take a road trip. Their piano/synth room is freakishly huge. That video snippet covers maybe 1/4 of the room, and if you call them up ahead of time, they will even pull out stuff from their catalog for you to try if it's not already out on the floor.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Thanks for the reply/info. I have the Montage M8x and love the PAT and GEX keybed.

That's a nice board!

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 I’ve been fortunate to own several classics over 45+ years, including several I wish I had kept. Yamaha: Montage M8x| Spectrasonics: Omnisphere, Keyscape | uhe: Diva, Hive2, Zebra2 | Roland: Cloud Pro | Arturia: V Collection | NI: Komplete 14 | VPS: Avenger | Cherry: GX80 | G-Force: OB-E | Korg (software): Triton, MS-20 Yamaha: Motif XS8, Motif ES8, Motif8, KX-88, TX7 | ASM: Hydrasynth Deluxe | Roland: RD-2000, D50, MKS-20| Korg: Kronos 88, T3, MS-20 | Oberheim: OB8, OBXa, Modular 8 Voice | Rhodes: Dyno-My-Piano| Crumar: T2

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 I’ve been fortunate enough to own several classic synths over 45 years. I wish I held onto some of the “sold/traded” that are now worth $$$ but is was always about the next thing… Using: Yamaha: Montage M8x| Spectrasonics: Omnisphere, Keyscape | uhe: Diva, Hive2, Zebra2 | Roland: Cloud Pro | Arturia: V Collection | NI: Komplete 14 | VPS: Avenger | Cherry: GX80 | G-Force: OB-E | Korg (software): Triton, MS-20 Sold/Traded: Yamaha: Motif XS8, Motif ES8, Motif8, KX-88, TX7 | ASM: Hydrasynth Deluxe| Roland: RD-2000, D50, MKS-20 | Korg: Kronos 88, T3, MS-20 | Oberheim: OB8, OBXa, Modular 8 Voice | Rhodes: Dyno-My-Piano| Crumar: T2

Yeah that was an oops on my part. 73 or 76 key. I should watch some newer videos on the Osmose. I saw some pre-release videos and it looked...ok.

It's good to see a number of options available, especially in different price brackets.

I'm wondering if Arturia has patented that in particular. If so, they will have the corner on that market for awhile. Just like Korg had with SST technology.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 Not sure what there is to patent. On AT keybeds velocity is simply how long it takes from top sensor to however far the key is pressed. Half way to AT sensor at same speed as all the way SOMETIMES equals different velocity depending on algorithm and curve setting. Arturia is dropping that time to travel calculation and using absolute position from the top as an alternate to velocity for a mod source. Plus some options starting at the AT sensors. Using velocity sensors in that way is a great idea, but generally ideas cannot be patented. To me the invention was the keybed itself that sends that information to be processed as the synth builder sees fit, but who knows these days...

It's hard to say. Apple patented a bunch of stuff that shouldn't have been patentable in the 2000's and 2010's. Not sure how much of it stuck after years of lawsuits, but sometimes overstating your position is enough to keep the competition at bay. I think the Arturia website says that the 'keybed' is patented, so maybe not the 'modes' used by the keybed. I'll be happy if others can and do adopt this with their products.

@@arcticfoxstudios2018 we will see, but given Osmose has had full range Z per key as a mod source (plus X wiggle) for a while now it is hard to see how Arturia could claim the idea as theirs.

Ha, yeah. I didn’t catch that. 73 would be ok too. Definitely need one more octave.

Very few people have 4k going spare to spend on a synth. Not without ruining their marriage!

That's one reason I have a band. It essentially funds my VST and keyboard buying habit.

@@Dudderlyful this is for the professionals who lives from their music.

Else the guys who are interested by the synth and can buy it, and use it in their music by which they live. It is a professional tool, an high end product.

​@@jean-louispech4921no, they usually use workstations like montage or fantom

Sure, if you have fun with that do that. Some of us like the hardware. It's not "so weird" and doesn't take 5 minutes to code a synth if you have no experience doing that. Edgy ass take.

@@pzanardi It's BS even if you have experience doing that. I've worked in Unity professionally for the past 14 years, and that's just not a thing unless by "coding a synth" they mean "importing a synth somebody else coded off github".