Why The Volkswagen EA888 Is So Good
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Күн бұрынTuners love potential and Volkswagen is one of those companies which provides it. There are lots of great engines on their account, petrol or diesel, but there is one which stands out a bit more the last couple of years... the 2.0 TSI EA888 series. Why is it so?
00:00 Intro
00:36 Comparison
01:58 Gen 1
02:54 Gen 2
03:51 Gen 3
05:19 Tuning and issues
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@Edik0704 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily I'm driving an old Audi with an 1.8T 20V - Even tho it is 26 years old, it still feels like its been just built
@lukasryba7141 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i have it in B5 A4 and its great engine i think it is mostly because it was originally audi developed engine for racing purposes and not just some VW developed engine used in Audi
@nicostenfors5690 2 жыл бұрын
I also drive a A4 B5 1.8T, year 2000. Great engine, great tunability and good performance with low fuel consumption.
@mightymqb4800 2 жыл бұрын
Gone from an AUM 1.8T to a mk4 R32 vr6. In truth I missed the 1.8t badly was so much more fun and unpredictable, turbo sounds etc. I've now got an ea888, absolutely love it, perfect step on from the 1.8t
@Mtematiks 2 жыл бұрын
Both of EA113 and 888 are complete SHITT of engines.... so much so, that I bought an EA113 car with 54K miles on the clock with broken ebngine... 54K MILES Absolute piece of crap of an engine...
@Mtematiks 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukasryba7141 1.8T is modern 2.2T without the 5th cylinder . 😉
@dwvw 2 жыл бұрын
Love all the techs claiming the EA888 is unreliable but lumping all three generations together. The gen3 isn't the same engine. The only real weakness is the water pump. Early IS20 turbo cars and some IS38 cars had weak turbo's and later facelift MK7.5 had some direct injector issues, but that's about it. There is no other car that is as good a daily driver bang for the buck as the Golf R. You can do a few mods and make 500whp reliably, drive it year round, take 3 friends on a weekend vacation and fit a 65" TV in the box in the hatch.
@ProdPxwolf 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've owned a 15 gti which was heavily modified and beat the absolute shit out of it (back to back full throttle pulls) daily for 70k miles with very few problems. I've had my water pump fail and coolant feed line to the turbo crack. Not a bad price to pay for 350whp lol
@Azula7.5R 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my R like crazy. Looking forward to adding more power later on.
@HotYogurtMan 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Mk7.5 R...you said it perfectly. It's a jack of all trades. I have the manual...so I had to upgrade the clutch to play with extra power, but lemme tell you...worth every penny.
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProdPxwolf wich mods do you have ?
@ByronWWW 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an upgraded aftermarket water pump available?
@ethannicosia979 2 жыл бұрын
I just let the car go, but I took my 2017 GTI to 262,000 miles traveling all over the US. Mix of highway and fast paced backroad miles. Chased Porsches in several states. A week at WOT in 2nd-3rd gear at Tail of the Dragon and all kinds of stuff. 10,000 mile oil changes, still original turbo. Pulled amazingly still and didn't use anymore oil than any other hardworking turbo engine (1qt every 3-4k miles).
@SpaceMissile 2 жыл бұрын
awesome. i'm at stage 3, 60k miles and panicking. lol sounds like i'm okay also, i need to hit that dragon sometime.
@eddiefes3183 2 жыл бұрын
You’re living the dream man. What made you travel all over the US especially in a fun car???
@mazpr2025 Жыл бұрын
LOL, BS! at all levels.... no oil maintenance will save you from the past 100k repair bill. Check Naptown tuner and any Audi VW forums, the lifespan of these engines and transmissions is about 100k.
@mazpr2025 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceMissile you should, better know how to do the timing chain and tensioner, wait when the oil screen passages clog the balance shafts. If it is DSG you WILL have to replace the flywheel at 100k, and save for the intake manifold.
@SpaceMissile Жыл бұрын
@@mazpr2025 noted, thanks. side-note: i have hit the tail of the dragon since my previous comment. lol it was awesome.
@pervertt Жыл бұрын
I see the EA888 gen 3 as the spiritual successor to the evergreen 1.8T 20V. I am fortunate to own both a 2001 Audi TT 225 and a 2018 Audi S3. Neither engine has been tampered with and both have been regularly serviced. And both engines are rock solid in terms of reliability.
@IronPickle420 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my 2017 S3 with hybrid turbo, and the EA888 is great. My only problem is the more power I made, the worse it sounded. I moved onto a B58 but the EA888 will always have my respect as one of the best modern 4 cyl
@miggyrocks626 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a European Godzilla
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
yes, the problem is when you do a performance cat back exhaust on the S3, and turbo down pipe, it sounds too much like a ricer. My S3 is stock for now, 2018 only 15K miles, has factory resonator delete and IMHO its one of the best sounding 4 bangers like this, set up nice and deep/rich exhaust note, very nice.
@tellyawhatmate 7 ай бұрын
Toying between a golf r wagon and a 330i wagon..the Vw sounds terrible as u said and the b48 sounds pretty good for a 4. Just a big price jumo
@sleet1k130 7 ай бұрын
@@tellyawhatmatehuge price jumó lol
@mommaduck79 5 ай бұрын
@@volkssturm9694you’re right - but the lack of good sounding EA888s isn’t because of some inherent design flaw of the engine - it’s due to the turbos. The K and IS series of turbos are not great in terms of how they sound when paired with the 2.0T. Look at any G series (turbo by Garrett) build on the EA888. They sound IMMENSE!! They absolutely transform the acoustics of the exhaust and make the EA888 sound genuinely good. The IS38 and IS20 are too small and restrictive to truly allow the engine to sing - they act as permanent mufflers on the exhaust.
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
The EA888 is a "successor" to the EA113 just as the EA113 was a "successor" to the EA827. The EA888 is essentially the successor to the EA827 unit that debuted in 1974 in the original Golf with a displacement of 1.5 liters. Really, the EA888 is just a reworked version of the 827 unit, so was the EA113 and a few others. On the EA888 VAG made major changes to how the oil pump works and went with chains instead of timing belts, but the bore spacing is exactly the same on all these engines. They really are the same motor, just updated. Great video!
@gabrielv.4358 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. But I still prefer the EA827
@eduardomargutti 2 жыл бұрын
The EA827 is known in Brazil as the AP Engine, there were 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 variants. Gasoline and E100, even a Diesel. I was Brazil's first fuel injected motor in 1989
@nightdriver7216 2 жыл бұрын
Same bore and stroke, for one. EA827 was legendary, but the new one is even better.
@RPNization 2 жыл бұрын
The EA 827 has debuted in 1972 in the first Audi 80
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@RPNization That's not what I've read. It was a 1.5 liter in the first Golf's sold in 1974 from my research. Wikipedia does say that the EA827 came out on the 80 however, so you are probably correct.
@lucianobr6123 2 жыл бұрын
This engine is very popular here in Brasil most the gen 1's is modified a lot by tuners reaching 400 hp easily in golf's and jetta's
@randomhobby3729 Жыл бұрын
E as donas de bmw ficam loucas 😂 💃💅
@handle690 2 жыл бұрын
I always love seeing your VW videos VisioRacer!
@matthewarmstrong7069 2 жыл бұрын
1st and 2nd gen EA888 were some of the least reliable mass production motor VW has ever built. These engines need extensive work to keep them reliable. Oil consumption and timing chain issues are two of the main problems. These are just a few of them, I fix these cars almost daily.
@sifre2 2 жыл бұрын
Gen1 is fine. They only have the chain tensioner issue, which is an easy fix. Mine has the factory fitted water pump and close to zero oil consuption.
@lucas36963 2 жыл бұрын
@@sifre2 what about the water pumps the cam shaft plate oil leaks, the lower and upper timing chain cover leaks, the intake manifold issues the fuel injector issues. I can go on and on. The tiguans and eos always have some issue with underboost issues due to thw actuator going bad. I guess the turbo isn’t necessarily the engine but it did come on that motor so yea… very unreliable. I luckily had had very little issues with mine but still had my fair share of issues on my 2011 gti
@thenewhalogod 2 жыл бұрын
own a 2015 A4 quattro with the ea888(second gen), no oil consumption at all and have had zero problems with it since I got the car in 2018. Had the steering shaft problem, as did my buddy who has the same car(mines manual, his is auto).
@sifre2 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano that's bs, every manufacturer has good and bad engines. Japanese petrol engines are mostly simpler, more reliable constructions. Germans tend to sometimes overcomplicate things, like the 1.4 TSI twin charger, an interesting engine, cool engineering, but with major flaws.
@lucas36963 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano lol
@b.e.s.i3813 2 жыл бұрын
The Gen 3 is really a Fascinating Engine
@MaslAlek 2 жыл бұрын
I have Cupra with that amazing engine. Stock 300, tuned to 360 now. Amazing step in acceleration. Soon I'm doing stage 2 which includes bigger downpipe and intercooler which will give additional 40 hp.
@JP_RS6 2 жыл бұрын
You got the ST estate or FWD 300? I'll be going to OEM+ stage 1 mapping on mine as I have a GPF. But with remap/intake and filter/ intercooler and resonator replaced it should make between 380 and 400. I think thats as much as I'd ask of it still being FWD lol. That and change the service interval to every 6k miles to try and be on top of it.
@aleksanderfiold7554 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3'rd gen of this engine. Very nice to drive, doesn't drink a lot of fuel, and makes your car really fast.
@HighGear7445 Жыл бұрын
Me to in an Atlas . 27mpg overall and has hit 30 + on some tanks. It really does warm up fast. wish my TDI would also it takes forever in the winter to get to operating temp.
@tredfxman 13 күн бұрын
@@HighGear7445We have two Golfs: Golf MK6 GT R-Line 1.4 litre 160 hp, and my Golf MK7 GTI Clubsport 2 litre 370 hp (Stage 1). I back up your comment the MK7 warms the temperature up considerably faster. The MK6 is now 12 years seemed to be consuming ALOT of oil before the last oil change. Switched to Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 for both now which should be optimal for those VW's and well see how they handle. The noises on the MK6 dissapeared. Filled up to under 5 litres on the MK7, had noises. I always top up to around 5 litres on the GTI, then start engine 2-3 times for 5-10 minutes each, then check the stick to let oil settle in the system. After the 5 litre mark no noise on the GTI. Managed to fill up to the 5.7 or so factory spec. Warmed up engine 20 mins before removing oil. Let it drain at least 30-60 minutes. Sorty im bit oil nutty! 😂 We have own car lift & stuff so!
@Some0ne001 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Mk7 GTI new in January 2015 with the 3rd gen motor. I have 84,000 miles on the car over 7 years of ownership It’s been perfectly reliable. Synthetic oil changes every 10,000 miles and it runs perfect. People say VW’s are unreliable I’d disagree as their newer stuff is fantastic I’ve spent less than $1,700 in maintenance over 7 years for my VW outside of tires.
@robbalinski1606 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes!! 10,000 miles is way to long before oil changes....fucking thing only takes 6 quarts. I did my oil changes every 4k miles on my 16 mk7 golf gti, 6 years 100k miles and the dealership thought it was a brand new engine. You probably have burnt oil and sludge building up in your engine with that oil change interval.
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbalinski1606 most likely not..... The VW/Audi 07k motor does 10k intervals for synthetic..... I've seen these Opened with 12k oil changes over 100k miles with no sludge ........ But to be fair the 07k is the better engine anyway.......
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbalinski1606 agree totally, with my 2015 Audi A3 1.8T Gen 3 EA888 I did oil changes every 5K or less and the car lasted until 145K without major issues, still running fine until I traded it in for my new 2018 Audi S3 which is an amazing car, got it last month with 8K miles.
@jasono2139 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny. I have a 2014 Passat with about 83k miles on it with similar reliability. The only issue I had outside of the safety recalls was a leaky water pump and the damper for the sunglasses over head storage broke. That's it! ...and yes, 10k mileage oil change intervals (which is manufacturer spec). Granted it'll consume a quart of oil over 5k miles, so I typically add a bit half way between changes.
@brettbrettson69 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being stoked to make it to 80,000 mi 😆
@gorylatko 2 жыл бұрын
Had two of them in a row. Fabulous powerplants. That's besides the VR-6 that I owned at some point as well which was another marvel of engineering. VWAG rulezzz!
@tslim250 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.5 5 cylinder engine in the 2011 jetta is an absolute beast for a n/a engine. vw is really impressive for engine power delivery but boy some design things can be annoying to work on.
@G4bri3lBatista 2 жыл бұрын
I am a happy owner of an Audi A3 1997 1.8 and a VW Jetta Variant 2012 2.5, both great NA engines!
@ashtonbrandner5129 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the 2.5 5 cylinder in a 2009 Rabbit and went IE stage 2... Great engine. Great sound.
@yoshi555king 2 жыл бұрын
vr-5 love dem. vr-6 with 4-motion tho as golf 4 vr6 and leon cupra 4 1m
@thirdpedalnirvana 2 жыл бұрын
Drive any volvo engine and youll realize the 5 cylinder in the usdm vw's is trash. Yeah, it's got torque, the 2.5 liters make torque unavailable in the competition which was usually a 1.8 liter engine. But it's rough as an unbalanced washing machine on spin and can't breathe at higher rpm. It was a cost cutting exercise. It is an affront to the good name of the 5 cylinder engine.
@thirdpedalnirvana 2 жыл бұрын
Idk what makes the EA888 so great, but it's definitely not how the thermostat is under the intake manifold (like everything else) so what should be a $30 part that any competent garage mechanic can replace in a couple hours is actually a $180 part that requires over $1000 in labor to replace (I've done timing belts on Nissan 300zxs, done uncountable work to E46's... I wont try to remove the intake manifold on an EA888 golf. It is absurdly hard). I swear, the lead engineer's wife must have run off with a mechanic because as amazingly engineered as the EA888 is, it's designed to make the mechanic's life hell.
@NeXuS858 2 жыл бұрын
Love the EA888 Gen3 on my S3. 52k miles Stage 2 FBO and it's been nothing but reliable. Can't wait to throw on a Garret turbo and see how much it can make!
@DaveThaBossDTB 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I have had 0 issues with this engine. Have no intention selling my car. Going to keep it until it breaks at 100k or something.
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveThaBossDTB same plans with my 2018 S3, I got it like new recently off a lease with 9K miles, these cars will last up to 200K + with religious maintainence , such a blast to drive, lots of mid range torque, handling is impeccable
@macauleyh5 Жыл бұрын
Mines just hit 32.5k (16 plate prefl s3) and got the dreaded thermostat housing leak, £680 to replace (thermostat, pump, gaskets and belt) at a local German car specialist on the 10th Jan. One day it was fine the next it'd dripping but luckily still drivable for now touch wood Pretty bummed as I came from a 2008 3.0tdi A5 running just over 400hp, in the 5yrs of ownership it just needed a clutch & flywheel, never used a sip of oil or coolant at 156k, sometimes I wish I kept it as it got abused daily
@samuel-JF1981 2 жыл бұрын
In Brazil, the most beloved VW engine of all times is the EA827, locally known as "AP". Some Crazy drag racers reach more than a thousand HP from 2 liters engines! Um salve para todos os Apêzeiros!
@oleo007 2 жыл бұрын
Concordo plenamente, motor AP é o mais preparado no Brasil,é unanimidade,pode não ser o motor mais eficiente, porém ainda dá para o gasto.
@G4bri3lBatista 2 жыл бұрын
Apzeiros everywhere
@matheus_ps 2 жыл бұрын
AP É AP PORRA kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk o EA888 não deixa de ser uma reecarnação do 2.0 do santana kkkkkkkkkk
@rynopieterse3294 2 жыл бұрын
Its also very popular in South Africa. Very reliable engine
@TiagoSC 2 жыл бұрын
Nao pode ver um 6 caneco que já se peida todo kkkkkkkkkk
@nobatteriesincluded3968 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had plenty of these,I find them to be very reliable when you actually use oem parts to maintain them💯
@alexkostoff6587 2 жыл бұрын
I wake up my Ea888 too many times a day and she isperfect! Mk7 Golf R has been a pleasure to drive. Except for the water pump, but that was changed over two years ago!
@giudel6033 2 жыл бұрын
Love the ea888 gen 3 ! Makes fun and got enaugh Power for his size !
@SpudEater 2 жыл бұрын
I know they get a lot of crap but my MK6 GTI has been nothing but reliable at 120k miles and being stage 2 for the past 70k miles. Love this car so much
@scottroberts5529 2 жыл бұрын
Have you cleaned out ur valves they tend to get alot of carbon build up
@SpudEater 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottroberts5529 was done at 90k.
@sporopeza 2 жыл бұрын
My 2016 MK7GTI has Unitronic stage 2 at 337HP and 370ftp. Since Ive owned, ZERRRRRRO failed parts, mechanical or electrical. Hmmm, I want to thank the Mexican 🇮🇹 partners for great workmanship.
@mk6_csg978 2 жыл бұрын
Same here after 9 years of owning my Mk6 GTI has been a good to me
@4r1mAS 3 ай бұрын
gti's are poser cars
@Hevipelle 2 жыл бұрын
I just now realized that I've had all the 3 different engines mentioned in this video, in order. First I had a 1.8T 20V Seat Leon with 180hp Then I changed it to a Audi S3 -09 with the EA113 engine And now I have a sedan Audi S3 -16 with the EA888 gen3 engine, which is by far the best. Lowest turbo lag of the three, despite being fastest and least fuel consumption.
@dukiemoto8676 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you
@mikeonly8554 2 ай бұрын
I have Gen 2 of this engine on a A5 coupe 2008 and I am very pleased by it so far!
@billx4266 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mk7 Gti clubsport, it has the same internals of the R, so i already have that IS38 turbo. I love my car
@AussieWhitePride 10 ай бұрын
Easily the nicest sounding 4 cylinder engine by a long shot
@volkssturm9694 10 ай бұрын
agree my Brother 100%,
@OEM1 6 ай бұрын
K series >
@AussieWhitePride 6 ай бұрын
@@OEM1 bhahahahah, you're out of you're fucking mind .. a rice cracker over quality German engineering.. you're definitely a Gen z
@darklordsauron3415 4 ай бұрын
@@OEM1There are so many ricers that put fartcans on Honda motors that it’s hard to have a decent sounding one come to mind to reflect on lmao.
@KowalDWR 2 жыл бұрын
1.8t bfb 230hp/340nm here. Love this engine. This 888 unit was in my scope too, but I wanted isuueless lpg installation.
@BryceJordanProductions 2 жыл бұрын
so cool to see some clips from my channel in there! nice vid!
@KobaSena_Fr 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that we see this engine everywhere ... Stage 1 Pop&Bang with Inox exhaust , it's boring as hell ... And those car "passionate" often don't know anything else beside the VAG group. I had a Golf Gti, sold it for a Saab 2.8V6 Turbo XWD and don't regreat it at all :D No offenses to VAG owners, it's just that "every one" has one
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
Well it is the "people's car" both metaphorically and literally! If you want something unique/unusual, VAG is probably not where you should look!
@saltycanadian6190 2 жыл бұрын
I have a gen 3 in my 2017 A4. It has FBO, E85, and a syvecs ecu and tcu. 400+whp I’m also really happy they flipped the engine so I can do a timing chain with the engine in the car.
@zenxen7668 3 ай бұрын
How many miles?
@saltycanadian6190 3 ай бұрын
@@zenxen7668 before I blew my first engine, 120,000km 65,000miles
@rhomboyant8392 7 ай бұрын
My 2011 Tiguan may leak from the vacuum pump, the turbo, both timing covers and the water pump, but it’s still mostly fun to drive and has never left me stranded.
@MrFoxxRaven 2 жыл бұрын
I swapped a gen 1 into a stripped out mk1 golf and decided to fully build it. Then ran it on some Chinese tyres. To call it a white knuckle ride was an understatement. Used to get to work stinking of rubber and clutch and shaking from adrenaline.
@carcrazyguysa4059 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Polo GTi 2.0 and there no denying the EA888 is the most superior engine not just made by VW but 2.0s in general
@g_webb21 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes' A45 S AMG performs better though
@rocavelli20 2 жыл бұрын
07k is better
@digitalscale76 2 жыл бұрын
@@g_webb21 it does but at what cost
@robbalinski1606 2 жыл бұрын
Debate-able, honda k series are amazing and mitsubishi 4g63's are a tank of an engine (developed in the late 70's released in 1982). Daily'd my 4g63t awd eclipse for 10 years at 550awhp stock engine never broke down once. Amazing what maintenance can accomplish.
@darklordsauron3415 4 ай бұрын
@@robbalinski1606those motors are probably better but they are old and no longer in use. He it probably making his comparison with more modern ish cars.
@FlyingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Mk7 standard golf (1.8tsi) with an IS20 upgrade, intake, and tune. Stock exhaust, DP, IC, fueling…the car absolutely rips for a simple turbo swap and flash. It’s actually hilarious, the car has pulled Maserati quattroportes, new 5.0 Mustangs, Challenger 392s….ridiculous for a little golf. Indeed it is a fantastic engine
@maureencomeau7218 2 жыл бұрын
look out for injector failures and water pump failure (leakage)) but yea a good engine. It can do it all with great fuel economy
@dwvw 2 жыл бұрын
@@maureencomeau7218 injector failure is only really a thing with the facelift models, mostly the 2019+
@busslayer4790 2 жыл бұрын
What fuel upgrades are needed with this upgrade? I just got a '17 Golf last month and a turbo upgrade is in its future. I haven't heard too much about fuel system upgrades though. I just loaded a Unitronic Stage 1+ tune and it already seems ridiculous for what it is.
@FlyingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@busslayer4790 for IS20 the stock pump is fine. I mix 3 gal of E85 into every tank as well and I drive the car hard, 80k miles still ripping. I would probably upgrade the HPFP if you plan to run full e85 on IS20. IS38 does require the HPFP upgrade on the 1.8. My car is Uni Stage 2 IS20 with an APR intake all the way to the turbo, stock intercooler, DP, and cat back, fuel pump, everything else is stock. so really you can swap an IS20 and flash alone with everything else stock and will probably pickup another 50hp over your stage 1+. My car is a bit of a factory freak and is probably making 280-290whp and even with the slight E mixture no issues with fueling. Do the IS20, it’s honestly a joke how fast the car is for a factory turbo upgrade.
@glovercarvalho1930 2 жыл бұрын
You're not pulling a 392 with that setup lol
@otherstuff9121 2 жыл бұрын
First lock down I bought a passat b5 2000 1.8t with 300k km and tuned it to stage 1. Such a difference. I made trips all over europe and uk and made 30k in one year. Easy to maintain it, change the oil etc. So good to feel the acceleration and power and yet the consuption was about 6.5l/100km. Once I drove from London to Slovenia in one go consuming only 6.2l/100km even though in Germany I drove up to 200km/h. Such a fun engine.
@jasono2139 2 жыл бұрын
I swear there's no change in fuel consumption from 70mph to 120mph in most small VW with turbocharged engines.
@otherstuff9121 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasono2139 I am coasting a lot and braking with engine which helps low consumption. Of course if I was driving 200km/h all the time I wouldn't get this mpg. In Germany there are patches with no speed limit, but mostly it's 130km or 120km limit. And the quality of roads are important as well. Some roads slow you down even when going downhill.
@jasono2139 2 жыл бұрын
@@otherstuff9121 yup, I've never done 200kph in the US or Europe... but it's honestly crazy how fast people in Europe will drive on the highway despite some cars barely having the power to keep the limit. Once I drove my wife to see her grandmother once, we were doing 160kph for a while and didn't pass anyone! You'd be blowing everyone's doors off at that speed in the US.
@jasono2139 2 жыл бұрын
@@otherstuff9121 as for consumption, only once did I average about 140kph on a trip... but I still got about my average of 34mpg on the highway. 🤷 ...any other car I've driven would have gotten about 10mpg less doing those speeds.
@busslayer4790 2 жыл бұрын
The EA888 also came in a 1.8t version as well. I'm not sure about Europe, but it is/was used in a number of North America applications. I just picked up a '17 Golf last month with the 1.8t. Besides the obvious displacement difference (shorter stroke) it has a smaller turbo and variable cam timing on only one side (exhaust?). The same tuning options that work on the 2.0 work on it as well. I loaded a stage 1 tune to mine the second week I had it.
@RobertSmith-le8wp 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn’t know they still made them that late. I always thought the 2.0T replaced it across the line
@Alexandru-T. 2 жыл бұрын
The 1.8 TSI was used in Europe as well.
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
shame they discontinued it
@LadyLuck-iv2zd 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing. 2016 Golf. 170HP stock, 242 after a simple 91 tune from Unitronic without any other mods. Changed the car completely.
@spencerholtzman1151 2 жыл бұрын
The 1.8t also had a cast crank where the 2.0t has a forged crank. Doesn't appear to be an issue though. I have a Sportwagen 4motion with a stick. It's essentially a Golf R drivetrain with a Golf motor. Swapped the IS12 for an IS20 two years ago. Car runs like a top with a good extra 100hp over stock.
@Liam-qb7em 2 жыл бұрын
The Gen3 EA888 is far better than the previous two generations and is generally safe up to 500 whp on stock motor.
@tea5092 2 жыл бұрын
as long as the torque is 600, hp could be anywhere higher
@ABZero_A90 2 жыл бұрын
You tell them Liam
@dimmacommunication 2 жыл бұрын
@@tea5092 Well, there's no reason to keep hp high while limiting torque.
@cd-pu5uv 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimmacommunication sure there is. Its not as much about limiting torque as it is bringing in the torque smoothly. If its snaps 450 ft lbs quickly, thats not the same as slowly ramping up to 450 ft lbs
@TheMailmanOfSteel 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who owns an FSI, I really swung and missed, didn't I?
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
My 1.8t 1998 A4 quattro was sold to the original owner with 300,000 miles. All stock internals and trans with a 24psi K04 tune + bolt ons. Even when the intercooler was popped off doing a pull, limp mode allowed it to drive home gently. Truly a tank. No issues and all servicing was cheap and I could do it myself.
@benpar8120 8 ай бұрын
Interesting Video, Is this used in the 1.2L TSi? Cheers
@Leapingrhino 2 жыл бұрын
Been driving a 1.8t gen 3 for past few years and love it. Thinking of upgrading to a B58 soon, think you can make a vid on that?
@ErikM340 2 жыл бұрын
100 000 km on EA888 gen3 in stock Cupra 280. Zero issues with engine so far, only water pump replacement. Love the car even after 4 years in stock, power is superb for country roads.
@BurekSaSirom5 2 жыл бұрын
Just take stage 1 and be happy 😃
@ErikM340 2 жыл бұрын
@@BurekSaSirom5 I'm considering REVO stage 1 for 2 years 😁 but I plan to change car so... won't do it.
@BurekSaSirom5 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikM340 just do it, you will change your mind and keep car, much cheaper then buy new 🤣😂 I put stage 1 after 3 month car was still new on warranty
@patrickrodrigues4202 2 жыл бұрын
I have same car but ST version. Same mileage, just have put a stage 1 one month ago. This thing is damn fast..! If i change is only for 400+ hp compact car. Dont want to loose this sensation
@ErikM340 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickrodrigues4202 I have an ST too, manual with upgraded clutch. After cupra I plan to buy RS4/RS5 sportback B9, but when I have no idea :D
@4BillC 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1.8T in my B5.5 A4 with a K04 I turned with Eurodyne Maestro (going bigger turbo soon) and a gen 2 EA888 in my B8.5 A4 with an Intergrated Engineering stage 2 tune. Both are pretty quick and fun cars!
@angelothabo4107 2 жыл бұрын
I love this guys video he's the boss when it comes to cars
@fitchi458 2 жыл бұрын
I also drive the EA888 in the new Golf 8 GTI CS, its stunning!
@mariuscaminschi2742 2 жыл бұрын
So many people have so many opinions.. from my experience Gen 1-2 tend to fall apart way easier than it should. Ofcourse there are examples, where they last long, but but mostly not. I do own a MK6 gti 35 edition, whith is fitted with EA113 from the MK6 R and never had an issue since i bough it. Feel like VW sorted most of the EA888 problems with gen3.
@Mtematiks 2 жыл бұрын
The EA113 is even crappier than 888 if possible ....
@l33tnobody1337 2 жыл бұрын
I know a couple of dudes with different VAG cars, all with Gen 1/2 EA888s in them, most with more than 150k Kilometers and none of them have had any major issues. Which is impressive considering they're really beating them, running 270kph+ on the Autobahn regularly.
@mariuscaminschi2742 2 жыл бұрын
@@l33tnobody1337 from my experience, these cars like being driven hard, and they hate being driven in cities constantly from red light to red light.. as I said in the main comment, some people have MAJOR issues, but if you service it right, with upgraded faulty parts, it can be a long lasting ride ❤️
@gkrieger6824 2 жыл бұрын
The version of the 3rd gen that we get in the U.S. does not have the added port injection. Carbon build up is unfortunately still a major issue for us.
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
not always...I give my Audis' and VW's frequent "Italian tune ups" which works for sure- it blasts alot of the carbon deposits away. Im on my 2nd 3rd Gen EA888 and have not had carbon build up issues yet. Still, carbon cleanings are not the end of the world, can be done for a reasonable price.
@randellgribben9772 2 жыл бұрын
@@volkssturm9694 so called Italian tune ups will not help..think about it.. valves get hotter.. carbon bakes on hotter..or the carbon flakes off and gets stuck in the rings or thuo the turbo blades....yes i am a tech...
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@randellgribben9772 In theory ,....maybe, but reality is often a totally different story.There is tons of anecdotal evidence that Italian tune ups help to at least some extent. Like I said, I have never needed carbon cleanings with various EA888 engines all around 150K miles...maybe I just got lucky? Even if so, a nice carbon cleaning is not that expensive. I do enjoy listening to a "techs" input though.
@randellgribben9772 2 жыл бұрын
@@volkssturm9694 12 years at alfetta motors in vallejo cal... worked on classic Italian cars as a 'tech ' so i just might have some experience working on cars
@tfiresmith01 2 жыл бұрын
On the gen 3 they changed the funnel design of the air/oil separator or PCV. Thus, helping with the carbon build up. All DI engines suffered from carbon buildup. Even Hyundai‘s, Subarus, Fords, Chevys, Honda
@Hoxtonligger 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my Old Golf 1.8t 20v AUM although it doesn't have the tracktion and DSG to make it compete with modern models it is fun to change gear with a stick and lift the handbrake in the snow and ice.
@AntFragale Жыл бұрын
I just recently bought a Mk8 R, so gen 4. Really excited for tunes to come out nuts to my understanding the rods (maybe pistons too) were improved. I’m not sure what other internals as well but the fuel system and turbo are also different which I hope mean it can accommodate more. It’s my first VW so all these testimonies of reliability are reassuring! I will absolutely take care of it like I do my WS6.
@Way2EasyDIY Жыл бұрын
You'll enjoy the windows going up and down about 5x as fast. And nice seats, and a not cheap as hell plastic dash that easily cracks lol! Former f body owner and I never look back
@AntFragale Жыл бұрын
@@Way2EasyDIY Omg the windows bro haha. One of the first things I did was change the window motor. Damn rivets. I love my WS6. It’s wonderful buts it’s mostly nostalgia and looks. Driving my 8R is just..well you know lol. Significantly nicer.
@Way2EasyDIY Жыл бұрын
@@AntFragale lol! And the engine isn't halfway under the windshield either.
@melegattie4116 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.0 TSI EA888 Gen3 it's actually capable of +500HP with stock crank, rods and pistons when using an hibrid IS38 or some similar turbo, it's amazing for a 2.0 4 banger.. Also you forgot the Gen 4, it's the one that comes equiped with Golfs MK8 (gti and R) with a Continental turbo
@WaseemKhan-iu4bh 2 жыл бұрын
Same with 1.8tsi EA888.3
@theowarmelink7347 2 жыл бұрын
2 litres are getting massive power.. Just look at the stock Amg, 421hp! Even more than the 2.5 5cilinder rs audi's.
@John_cupra290 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, ive got a gen 3 cupra 290 and even stock its lairy,absolutely love the way it produces peak power well up the rev range. Im still under warranty but after that’s done 🤔😉. Enjoyed that👌
@patrickrodrigues4202 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 st280 stage 1 370cv, 100'000km and runs perfectly, like new. Never have issues. With correct maintenance these engines are bulletproof
@John_cupra290 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickrodrigues4202 my brothers golf r has been stage 1 since new in 2017 and hasn’t skipped a beat and has nearly 70,000mls! My 2020 290 has admittedly low miles At just over 20,000 but most of them apart from the first 1500 run in miles have been enthusiastic miles and so far only a burst tyre and my oil changed every 5000 whether it needs it or not! Look after them and there easily as reliable even with tuning as any other high power 2.0 4cyl. Anyway just wanted to say point well made m8 cheers 👌
@mariustegl5361 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video:) What about the Evo 4 ? This the recent Engine in S3, clubsport and R.
@bleach_drink_me 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ea888 in mk6 gti thats been running a bigger turbo,methonal injection and a decent tune for a while now. I am happy with it. Had some water pump issues caused by the timing cover oil leak. Replaced the timing cover gasket,installed metal water pump housing,that problem has been solved. I also have the gen 3. So far only a stage 1 tune but it's been doing fine as well. However in the US the gen 3 didn't get port injection along with DI. It does use a little oil and is only 50k miles, curious to see if it's going to hold up long term.
@turbo8454 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1.8TSI in a AWD Sportwagen. I decided to get rid of it at low miles as it appeared it was going to become a a maintenance nightmare as it aged. I'm way past having complicated daily drivers. Was a fun car to drive with the APR tune and six speed stick!
@TheIrishPhantom 2 жыл бұрын
2:25 A whaaaat kind of manifold!
@besenwieslersepp1011 2 жыл бұрын
The later EA 888/3 had OPF and only DI, no more additional MPI. There also ist a EA888/3b. This is the 200/207 HP Version with miller cycle. And there is a Gen 4 with new Garret- or Continental Turbo
@2000freefuel 2 жыл бұрын
is there a direct injection gasoline engine that sprays the fuel thru the spark plugs? IE the spark plug is also the fuel injector nozzle.
@michaeldavila8627 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Puerto Rico, we have I believe the 2nd fastest Golf R in the world with over 700 HP. EA888 motor is a good engine but Germans tend to complicate things and this engine can be a pain in the ass to maintain.
@augustortiz 2 жыл бұрын
Literally everything the Germans do has an extra layer of unnecessary complication.
@michaeldavila8627 2 жыл бұрын
@@augustortiz True. EA888 has like 3 different chains alone, complicating things for no reason.
@justinmeeks1868 2 жыл бұрын
As a dealer tech, EA113 (FSI belt drive) over all the EA888 engines. A 1.8T TSI will barely make it to 100,000mi before its chugging enough oil to set cam advance faults. They are also very good at breaking valve springs.
@justinmeeks1868 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano lol ok. I do see broken cars everyday because that's my job, but I also see the common issues over a lifetime of a car and EA888 are piles of garbage. There is a reason only the new techs have CCTA cars.
@patrickrodrigues4202 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinmeeks1868 yes gen1 and gen2 was not so good, lot of problems. But gen3 golf R is not the same. Bulletproof engine. And now new base gen4 320hp Golf 8 R makes crying the A45s who have 100hp more. Very efficient engine
@AngelValdovinos 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinmeeks1868 there's a reason it's award winning 🤡🤡🤡
@Mtematiks 2 жыл бұрын
EA113 fais on oil delivvery in the head because of the oil sludge forming inside, due to the crappy hi kms oil changes by dealer policy...
@rocavelli20 2 жыл бұрын
my 1.8t is at 296,000 miles
@IMR_Seb Жыл бұрын
Do these engines have the same transmission compatibility as the previous 4 cylinders? (ea113 & ea827)
@bmwmsport11 2 жыл бұрын
What was changed on the gen 3 engines to solve the timing chain problems in the earlier cars?
@RickJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
4:45 - not outside of the EU - North American variants don't get port injection, sadly, so we still had to deal w/ the carbon deposits. That also meant we didn't get the exhaust crackles on the NA Variant MK7 Golf Rs.
@thenewhalogod 2 жыл бұрын
I own one that's port/direct injection and live in Canada? maybe just some states in the USA didn't get them, but all of Canada did.
@bluelightningrchampagne4539 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenewhalogod did you buy it new? I’m in Canada also and have a 7.5R. I haven’t heard any NA R come with port injection unless someone added a MPI kit to it.
@spotimpact. 2 жыл бұрын
Eu comes with an upgraded exhaust. That's why they sound better.
@RickJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
@@spotimpact. which years? MK7 R all had the same valved exhaust. The burbles were purely tuning tricks enabled by the additional fuel injectors and different emissions regs.
@spotimpact. 2 жыл бұрын
@Rick Johnson not sure but eu has an optional akrapovic exhaust
@adriancooper78 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love your technical knowledge of those engine. What are you going to do when these things go to electric power?
@derekgardin1512 2 жыл бұрын
Thats gonna be a long time away. There's not enough infrastructure to support everyone having an electric car and I'm sure they aren't going to be building it anytime soon. They would need more nuclear power plants as they are the cleanest source. Fossil fuel power plants (like coal) would kind of negate the purpose of being green even if the power they produce is used for electric vehicles. I'm sure the gas ICE is going to be around for at least another couple decades. These big oil companies aren't just gonna say, ok we'll stop selling gas. I'm certain as long as theirs oil in the ground, they'll be producing gasoline.
@adriancooper78 2 жыл бұрын
@@derekgardin1512 I'm in agreement
@AdnanPillay 2 жыл бұрын
So I drive a mk6 GTD so it’s a gen 2 engine, could I possibly do similar mods to a GTI or make it even better?
@l33tnobody1337 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a Cupra 300 4drive this year. I already have a couple of friends who have Audis/VWs with the Gen 1/2 and considering the beating they give them barely anything ever went wrong
@Josh-qm4rb 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how an EA888 would compare to the durability, tunability and stock internal ability to a K Series? despite the EA888 being more expensive
@xeus2eme 2 жыл бұрын
You can't feed 1000hp in an EA888, but you can in a K Serie
@IEatYouBabies 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of big turbo guys pushing 550whp to stock internals. Any more than that or any high torque levels, it will break
@Josh-qm4rb 2 жыл бұрын
@@IEatYouBabies Yes I believe so. However, I have seen someone who made 750hp on a stock EA888, but he spent a lot on all auxiliary parts (turbos, injectors, exhaust, oils, fuel pump, cooling system and many more) to achieve these numbers, nothing else is stock except the block, pistons and rods and the crank. Reliability may be a concern too.
@Josh-qm4rb 2 жыл бұрын
@@xeus2eme If the K series was built then yes. A built EA888 could handle 1000hp maybe
@tadassmolskas3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-qm4rb There is not much point to compare, in the end displacement is all that matters if you have unlimited budget.
@RobertSmith-le8wp 2 жыл бұрын
These really are great engines, I remember when my buddy/roommate at the time bought a brand new 2003 Audi A4 6 speed. With just a chip the car was substantially faster. The drivetrain was reliable, however the car itself had a lot of problems. I think it was in the shop over 20 times. Fun to drive though. I always loved the 2.7TT S4’s of the early 2000’s. I’ve seen some incredibly quick modified ones
@fry.master 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano LOL what??? Volkswagen/Audi CONTINUNES to designs engines with abhorrently obvious faults/flaws for planned obsolescence. “Oh we can make the water pump about 40x harder to do (without a lift and specialty tools… aka dealer money) than it is to do on a b58 BMW? And that makes it so we can add even more cash flow to our dealer networks/parts/etc?” Timing chains on these motors in particular are absolutely dogshit, not to mention They’re fucking $250 salvage title g35 class performance TOPS, plus boring as fuck fwd platforms… slow
@xavierstjohn6544 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm. I have a 19 Passat Wolfsburg and have A custom exhaust. The car sounds like a v12 but with DSG farts which is insane. I've been able to race WRX STI, Dodge Charger RTs, Type Rs and 500+ HP Range Rovers and BMW and beat them or tie with them from a dig even though the car is front wheel drive. The acceleration is insane. driven cross country 3 times within a year
@GGO89 2 жыл бұрын
waiting for the clutch to (eventually) die out on my 290 Cupra. Afterwards, I'm putting a Sachs Performance kit and making it stage 1. 290 hp is enough for FWD, really difficult to put down the power but am still curious how it will perform with the extra boost
@theowarmelink7347 2 жыл бұрын
Got a (gen 3) 3-door hatchback s3 (8v) dsg/s-tronic. Engine is smooth in total powerband. Not as exciting as n/a or oldskool turbolag cars. But lots of power, decent gasmileage and sound. I am extremely carefull with this car, only premium fuel (v-power, octane 98 in my country). Yearly oil changes, around 7-10k km. I do drive a lot of short distances, but always with care. Only getting on the power when properly warmed up. Most days only using 25% of power, without or minimal boost pressure, according to gauge in dash. Have had issue; of car turning of while driving in eco mode, during lift and coast. Was problem with start/stop system. Have had (around 125k km) problems with rough running. Sometimes having more power than expected sometimes less. Without warninglights on dash. Codes: cam an cranktiming timing of. Work done to fix issue. -leaking injector switched others were tested and cleaned. -worn cam (sensor) -stretching of chain. Chain is was not yet due but close (5th tooth adjuster) -Main problem eventually turned out to be an intermitting fault with oilpump; took 3 weeks to find by dealer and expert. Enginewise no further problems, no oil burning f.e. Except the engine sometimes feels sluggish after cruising for a while and then stepping on it in comfortmode. Drivertrain had an easy en cheap fix on haldex system. Rear wheels didn't engage (shortly after oilchange) Electronical update fixed it. Also no warning light on dash. I love my car; but reliable/bullitproof; definitely no.
@darthvaderitasidius4550 9 ай бұрын
Can you deactivate permanently the start and stop system?
@theowarmelink7347 9 ай бұрын
@@darthvaderitasidius4550 A VAG-coder probably could inhibit this function
@jamsbong 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Q5 with this engine. 90000 miles (150000 KM) and it runs like it is brand new. No oil consumption, no leaks of any kind.
@mrkongsimr 7 ай бұрын
Is this engine in the Passat 2.0l 2009 ?? Thanks great video !!
@timothyforce1949 8 ай бұрын
2014 Beetle Conv. with a 1.8 Turbo Gen 3 EA888. APR 87 octane tune (223hp/267tq). Awesome little engine while still being economical & dependable.
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
But its also the engine with the most known and often happening failures. So, its not really good. This engine is famous, yes. But in the first place for its failures and lawsuits it brought to VW. Like the oil loss, the water pump failures and wrong piston rings which were used in manufracturing the 1st generation.
@nopeahuoli 2 жыл бұрын
that depends on what ea888 variant you have, i hoped that reliability was discussed more in the video but in short gen2 is the engine with the famous issues like oil consumption and loose timing chain. those issues were fixed on the gen3 variant along with other improvements and they are nowhere near a common problem. gen3 is probably the most widely used engine in the vag family and for a reason.
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano triggered? Everyone knows your statement is not true 🤷♂️
@nopeahuoli 2 жыл бұрын
@@dom3827 maybe if you'd get your facts right you'd be credible one day
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
@@nopeahuoli i got my facts right baby. I worked for VW in germany for 3 years. 2014 to 2017. The Like ratio also tells you are wrong. So what?
@nopeahuoli 2 жыл бұрын
@@dom3827 how about you work on deez nuts
@brunowckful 2 жыл бұрын
Muitas oficinas no Brasil não fecharam as portas graças a esses motores da VW.
@ilki9718 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. But what about gen 4? My Passat got the EA888 evo4.
@jpwheel8999 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@donbrashsux 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Golf R
@smillman437 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it true that the US/Canada EA888 didn’t get all of the gen3 upgrades, such as (but not limited to) dual injection? Does anybody know the starting year where the EA888 gets added port injection in North America?
@647killa 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true. Eventhough the Gen 3 engine is fantastic. Europe got the more stout engine version, sadly.
@kbdadriftking 2 жыл бұрын
Port injection is still not here in the US
@gunyoda2356 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't get dual injection in north America unfortunately, I have a 2020 GTI. I wish it did.
@dwvw 2 жыл бұрын
@@647killa both engines were equally stout. Adding port injection for fuel efficiency didn't make the ROW engines more reliable.
@dwvw 2 жыл бұрын
You need to go aftermarket to add port injection to NA engines, and in fact VW got rid of the dual injection on the new MK8 for ROW too, so now all of them are strictly direct injection.
@emmanueltorres5770 8 ай бұрын
These engines are powerful when needed and efficient at the same time I sometimes get the same range as a hybrid or diesel. Closest to the best of both worlds
@kerrosateria0347 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 Audi A3 FWD 20V 1.8T (150hp). It has over 300 000km and still working like new.
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
It is a strong, tunable engine but I hear quite a lot of stories of faileurs at under 100k miles, which is not very impressive! They certainly go quick especially when mated to DSG (also prone to early failure) and AWD but they do sound dull even when tuned. I think VAG have done better engine overall in truth. But as modern engines go, it is not too bad.
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. You can beat the hell out of Volkswagen cars. What starts happening at the 10 year mark is that they start to "nickel and dime" you, but it is little things like power windows, sunroof motors, cruise control....et cetera. A properly maintained EA888 will easily see 300,000 miles.
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flies2FLL If there are ANY modern VAG cars still running with over 300k on the clock then I can guarantee they will have had virtually every moving part (and most of the electronics) replaced. I've never owned a VW myself (though family members have) so I concur about all the failing accessories and electronics, but a quick check on any VW/Audi owners forums will reveal no shortage of owners suffering engine/transmission/suspension/electronics issues far earlier than they should and the EA888 is no exception to this. Modern Mercedes and BMWs aren't any better either - All built down to a price.
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundseeker63 "I've never owned a VW myself" I'll just leave it at that-
@soundseeker63 2 жыл бұрын
@@Flies2FLL Yes, all the hassle family and friends have had with theirs in the past have convinced me they are unjustifiably overpriced rubbish. We'll leave it at that.
@Flies2FLL 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundseeker63 I drove a Volkswagen Scirocco turbo for eight years, and during the first four, the only thing that I had to replace was a brake light bulb. Another car, a '97 Jetta GLX was literally.....Christine. I liked the car but it didn't like me. It all depends on how the car is maintained, the Jetta was bought used and had obviously been abused. Odd fact about that Jetta: The first owner lived at the condo building in Surfside, Florida that eventually collapsed...
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to spell out a very common misconception with the gen 3 2.0 EA888 TFSI's: The 2.0 engine in the Audi S3 and Golf R is NOT the same exact engine that is in the standard 2.0 Audi A3/VW GTI. On the S3/Golf R there are many upgrades over the standard 2.0 , they are: 1) different cylinder heads (different aluminum alloy for higher thermal stress) 2) upgraded exhaust valve seat rings(improves temperature stablity), 3) upgraded exhaust camshaft (adapted valve timings) 4) compression ratio of 9:3:1 with different pistons 5)piston cooling jets (higher flow rate) 6)exhaust turbocharger 7) higher charge pressures up to 17.4 PSI 8)high performance main radiator 9) the connecting rods are reinforced. Just wanted to clarify that . Im glad I went with the S3, so far even stock it very quick and has amazing handling characteristics , (tossable chasis and very nimble)
@Irishluckily 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be an elitist, it’s pretty similar. Makes 50hp crank hp more. You just copied and pasted that info from the forums lol. Sincerely guy with owned a heavily modified A3
@volkssturm9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@Irishluckily Has nothing to do with “ elitist “- Why the inferiority complex? I used to have an A3 , love those cars also . The truth needs to be known tough guy- After all what is copying and pasting for? Lol
@kenchi7686 Жыл бұрын
I have a Audi a5 2017 252bhp 4wd sports back. I believe it’s the same engine? Anyone have suggestion about remapping these? Should I remove swirl flaps. Any advice
@jorlish 2 жыл бұрын
Love my EA888.3 Jetta 2015. Modded with Stage 3 ECU,stage 2 TCU ,Big CTS BOSS turbo, Quaife LSD, Unitronic Intercooler etc Churns out 403 bhp.Love my ride every day every second !
@TheFranpito 2 жыл бұрын
there are some thing wrong. only the 3rd gen ea888 has a plastic oil sump. The prior ones are metal.
@theowarmelink7347 2 жыл бұрын
And oilchanges with removing plug. I still find it strange the old oil is sucked out (dipstick hole).
@aeroline11 2 жыл бұрын
Gen evo4 VW change the oil sump back to metal. Strange why would VW put the oil sump on Gen 3 in plastic
@royalprince5878 2 жыл бұрын
@@aeroline11 How about the waterpump thermostat housing for Evo 4? Has VW improved that area?
@rwd323 2 жыл бұрын
So good at stretching timing chains, burning oil and having leaking (expensive) belt driven water pumps. I work on these engines most days, they are far from good!
@John_cupra290 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@KillerLordKW 2 жыл бұрын
Searched for this..
@fry.master 2 жыл бұрын
So damn true. Things are so fucking slow too, but every kid who barely beats a clapped g35 thinks it’s insanity. The motor basically wrote the book “what’s wrong with direct injection”, right before it burned all it’s other books containing common sense.
@the_first_resort940 2 жыл бұрын
People bring their car to you to fix and it’s unreliable? Are you unaware of the business that you are in? You wouldn’t have a job if engines didn’t have failures. I work at heavy duty American truck dealer and these trucks are half a million dollars and guess what?! They come to the dealer ready to be sold and they’re not actually ready to be sold, leaking atf, ps fluid, exhaust leaks, mismatch paint, bent steering components , missing filters etc. we don’t judge reliability off of why their broken we judge reliability off of how often they do break and that isn’t very much with how much power they produce. We make trucks with over 600hp and 2000lb ft of torque and time to time they prove to be less reliable than gas engines.
@the_first_resort940 2 жыл бұрын
@@fry.master pretty sure a g35 also has about 100more horsepower and 2 more cylinders so yeah that is something to toot about. You couldn’t be more biased with a name like that could you? As far as direct injection goes, yeah sucks so bad all other car companies followed.
@BOOSTEDDUDE 7 ай бұрын
Great info. The IS38 is the turbo upgrade I've heard the most about. Would put a GTI up into the 300HP range pretty easily.
@johnslaney8054 6 ай бұрын
Stage one on is20 is 320hp and 390torque, on is38 your looking easily over 400
@jaxxone4907 4 ай бұрын
Is38 comes stock on golf r(same engine as gti)
@saigoneze4465 2 жыл бұрын
My cczb/ Ea888 gen 2 Tiguan goes amazing .200hp from factory in a mid size suv goes like a golf r almost .With a simple stage 1 tune its a total sleeper
@ianclaudio777 2 жыл бұрын
AP 2000 with diferent heads, this iron block 1984 cm³ is very very reliable in the old but gold version AP 2000, 8V with 110 or 125 cv with MPFI, VW powered almost all her cars in Brazil with AP engine, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0, with single head cam. After they adopted multivalves and turbo, the engines lost realiability and gets more complex and hard to maitain. The old ones are still running today....everyone knows how to fix
@gabrielv.4358 2 жыл бұрын
True!!!!!!!!
@robertcardon5402 2 жыл бұрын
Port injection along with direct injection to prevent slug build up on the intake valves, bust ideal I've heard in months.
@2strokeFORever 2 жыл бұрын
Yea Toyota doing it right and hopefully all manufacturers follow
@Alexandru-T. 2 жыл бұрын
@@2strokeFORever Ford is doing it too in Europe on their 1.5 Ecoboost engines since 2018.
@2strokeFORever 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandru-T. now they need to do it to every engine here in the US. Cleaning intake valves gets old
@patrickrodrigues4202 2 жыл бұрын
They do this since 2013. Everybody copy them now. But yes some people things vw is shit. Lol
@scunnerdarkly4929 2 жыл бұрын
Great engines if looked after. Cars earlier than MY12 should have the revised timing chain tensioner fitted at the very least to prevent potential catastrophic failure due to a design flaw in the original. Stage 1 remap transforms the car but doesn’t hit fuel economy if you need to be economical. On a boring drive I’ll see around 45mpg while on a quiet day I can boot it and still get no less than 35mpg on the same journey. It’s nice to have the option of having power to spare without economy being sacrificed when you drive normally, and right now that matters with the price of fuel being what it is.
@energysnakepsnpl Жыл бұрын
Were Volkswagen Sciroccos with this engine sold, if so, which year?
@CaptainCandycorn 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has a gen3 EA888 in a 2019 GTI, I can assure you that it's direct injected only.
@RickJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between NA and EU spec. You'll see the NA manifold has "plugs" where the port injectors could go. In fact, the APR Stage3+ kits reintroduce port injectors for increased fueling.
@Alexandru-T. 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on location. In Europe it came with both injections.
@aeroline11 2 жыл бұрын
EU and Asia (except China first round launching EA888 Gen 3) are dual injectors but NA only comes with direct injection.
@dhrc86 2 жыл бұрын
since use of GPF, even Euro specs ea888 are FSI only.
@RickJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
@@dhrc86 right, so it would depend on the model year. My frame of reference was a US-soec 2016 MK7 Golf R DSG.
@rynopieterse3294 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a video somewhere of a complete teardown on one of these pointing out all the weak points. Its a terrible engine from what I saw in that video
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
yes, it actually is.
@joshuajacome8803 2 жыл бұрын
I know that channel. It's the one with the Canadian guy that uses his wife's old dresses to clean the mess!
@rynopieterse3294 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuajacome8803 yes that guy lol. Couldn't remember the name of the channel
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
@footballcoreano i am german by the way. Also halt die klappe kleiner Lügner. Dummer Fanboy, wie immer. As mentioned in the video, it is only capable for 400 hp with stock hardware. So your comment automatically is identified as a lie and everyone knows. Iconic engines like a 2JZ laugh about that. An Mercedes OM606 makes more power with stock hardware if you slap a bigger turbo and injectors in it. VW guys commonly have no clue about cars. They rarely have. As you proof
@dwvw 2 жыл бұрын
@@dom3827 I made 530whp on my stock engine Golf R, this video isn't the definitive source for aftermarket potential, there are hundreds of low 10 second stock engine Golf R's out there. Thousands of 500+whp stock engine EA888.3's.
@BastiOWL 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Seat Ibiza Cupra with the 1.8 liter EA888. The engine has a brute torque of 320Nm, which is really fun to drive. Unfortunately, consumption is pretty high at 9 liters per 100km. But almost 200 horses also have to be fed.
@edim108 Жыл бұрын
This makes me want to buy that Jetta GLI I've seen for sale even more. It has the 3rd Gen and from what I'm hearing it's a really good balance of reliability, affordability and tuning potential.
@MarcSchwenze Жыл бұрын
@edim805 Did you buy it?
@colapone1895 Жыл бұрын
I own one, and have for a little over 3 years, I can say its one of the best cars all around you can buy, slightly cheaper than the GTI, with the same running gear, and a trunk, little more leg room at the back seats, and pretty much, same tuning potential, Perfect Highway Cruiser, I highly recommend it
@pr0n5tar 2 жыл бұрын
Frist. Do one on the 2.5 5 cyl
@miguelcavalcantelopes2936 2 жыл бұрын
PA PA PA PA PA sssshtuutututu 4X4!! A4 O Mito!
@Mediarahan003 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mk6 gti with 93k miles on it, and I wish daily that someone would slam into it and total it, so I can get literally anything else.
@thanosdv4501 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Mediarahan003 2 жыл бұрын
@@thanosdv4501 because it's a rolling disaster that has cost me more in basic maintenance than my Miata did throughout the life of the car including the purchase price. It's a piece of shit. What other car on the planet has blinker switches that cease to function at 90k miles? or the window switch? or the sunroof switch? My heat doesn't work unless it's above 50 degrees. The turbo needs replaced because the wastegate arm is zinging and will get slightly stuck and throw a lean condition code. The day I drove it off the lot, it leaked oil out of the rear main seal, pcv was bad because of course it was, this one never got the updated timing chain tensioners, so I replaced those as well. The water pump on these are a ticking time bomb that usually requires half the engine to be disassembled, so that'll be another $600 some day. The headliner already failed (usually these go at 30k or so), and was already replaced. Both access covers/ housings for the tail lights fall off all the time. It really never ends.
@dom3827 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediarahan003 Exactly that is what Golf`s and the EA888 are famous for. For breaking down in every way possible and being extremely expensive.
@thanosdv4501 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediarahan003 damn man wow... Ok didn't know all that.. makes sense then .. honestly because I've got a golf mk3 1.6 8v with almost 500k and literally no issues whatsoever other than the fuel pump I thought the latter models would be just as good ..but that doesn't seem to be the point ..hope you can at least sell the thing and buy something worth of your money
@Mediarahan003 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to add this one already had a GFB diverter valve installed so that fucked up before 90k as well
@isaaclopez-garcia9357 Жыл бұрын
To each of their own! I loved my 2012 Mk6 Autobahn Gti over 100k miles and they only problem was the water pump and injectors. Now I own a Audi A3 8v, Everyone will have their own opinion on every Gen they have dealt with or are going through 🤙🏽
@Jordan_race 2 жыл бұрын
Is the gen 4 the same or are there more changes ?
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