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@Owen Likes Comics I have a question. Does Superman need to be represent like what his actual character is and also realistic so that it could be inspiring and relatable?

Love Superman and I’m currently watching the super girl from CW

Eh, too me Superman is too fantasy. And not talking about his powers but his personality. Nobody is that fucking selfless and someone with that type of power growing up as a human would turn evil. 100% of the time. So to me, Superman is way too dumb to be taken as something to be good. Now as a villain he is great. And America is anything BUT offering a helping hand to a neighbor. We are a country of "I got mine, fuck you". If not, we would have universal health care paid by our taxes but we don't because we don't believe in helping the poor and downtrodden.

Majora This view is exactly the view Superman opposes. He isnt ment to be the most realistic depiction of what absolute power does to someone, to be honest, his powers arnt relevant in his overall position as a charachter in pop culture. He is the embodiment of humanity at its very best. Yes, their is greed, apathy and injustice in our world, and not everyone can be as optmistic or good as we’d like(look at Lex Luthor). Superman is the idea that despite that, there is always the potential for goodness and empathy in every person, and Superman leads the people of Metropolis and the world to that idea

Majora I’d suggest you read DCeased it has one of the best depictions of Superman

@@Needler13 Only a person with weak morals would turn evil with Superman powers

@@Needler13 in superman returns movie he is shown to be a christ like figure

That's a great point, Superman is one of the best examples of a flat character arc done to perfection (I should've noted that when talking about For All Seasons). You don't see him change so much, but you really get a sense of how the world and the people he touches change because of him.

He's the Paragon. That effect is intentional.

People who say that are batman fans.

@@INFERNO95 nah not really,more like so called joker fans

@@OwenLikesComics Doomsday clock ruined Watchmen and it made me hate superheroes

Pl other on

It’s okay

May that gentle giant R.I.P.

You’re 2 seconds in my guy lmao. But it’s all good. I love Superman. Always have and always will.

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I´M WRITING A SCRIPT. I HELPED WRITE THE WONDER WOMAN SCRIPT. SUPERMAN DOESN´T NEED FIXING, HIS MYTHOLOGY NEEDS TO HELP FIX THE CURRENT TIMES. SCREW MAN OF STEEL. LOVE ZACK BUT YOU CAN´T DO THE FUN OF DECONSTRUCTING HEROES UNTIL YOU HAVE FIRST RECONSTRUCTED THEM FOR MODERN AUDIENCES.

@Inconceivable Disputes hell no, conservatives would hate him when they find out batman is anti guns and uses his wealth to give back to the people.

Please make a video on Superman

@Xeino Do we really need to bring up politics?

Let's hope Warner get Donner back to do another Superman.

So true!! We saw his superman again in Crisis on infinite earths! I really hope we see him again.

@@geraldstephens6612 Isnt he dead ?

@@saifurrahman3420 yes he has passed

What you said in the 1st paragraph is what Snyder gave us ...hope and altruism ..

@@dignerds I felt the opposite, to be honest.

@@justinriley because the world around Superman doesn't have that. He does, hence why the movies suck and why super man is just a bad character now. He's a propaganda character for an America that never existed. Hope isn't what is needed by the will to keep standing when the world beats you down. Hence why Batman and the Green Lantern comics and cartoons do much much better. To have the will to stand against darkness no matter how fucked the world is. Not some bs hope message of the American boy for an America that doesn't exist If Superman was real, America would do everything to capture him and experiment on him. Not deal with him.

@@Needler13 "He's a propaganda character for an America that never existed." Yes. Duh. He's what we want to be as a country, not what we currently are. He's aspirational. Literally everyone else understands that and has no need to view it cynically. "If Superman were real, they'd experiment on him" Which is exactly why Jonathan and Martha Kent adopt him as their own instead of giving him to an orphanage. And then they instill in Clark the values that America *should* be about, and in turn Clark shows that to everyone else. Edgelord antiheroes have just as much capability to suck as boy scouts do.

John wonder Snyder gave us a shit depiction of superman

There's a small moment of technical brilliance in that scene. Superman, back to camera, lifts off..and the camera "shakes" from the turbulence. A beautiful, possibly accidental, detail from Donner.

That line really stuck with me, it showed a Superman bright, optimistic and engaged with people.

I wish there were at least as many good Superman movies as there are good Batman's.

@@theragingben5393 the problem is WB didn't get the right directors they got Bryan Singer for Superman Returns and Zack edgy Snyder for Man of Steel and neither of them fit the vision style for Superman they need someone like Steven Spielberg Brad Bird and James Gunn oh and Sam Raimi

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 James Gunn hell no. The rest u mentioned i would like to see what they do.

@@MKL3165 what's wrong with James Gunn?

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Its not what's wrong with him. Its how he does his movies. I'm not a big fan of his work. Its not terrible But he is not the director i would want to direct a superman film. Based on how his past movies.

That's what I LOVED about "The Adventures of Lois and Clark", the Superman was the resource, the alter-ego that allowed Clark to do things and still be himself, not the usual other way around people tend to see.

this was all well said

Wow. I nominate you for next writer of any Superman related anything

@@duanekogut757 Second!

Well Superman wouldn't be very 'super' without the man. It really should be about Clark (the man); all Superman is is Clark's desire to help humanity in whatever way he can, without disrupting the life he built.

I’ve always said that his greatest power was his heart.

I love All-Star Superman so damn much, that speech gets me every time.

It's a wonderful story, and I'm glad I could spotlight it in this video!

You forgot about Manchester black since he's telekinetic and Livewire since she could physically hurt him shocking him wit electricity or ultrasound or even my control could actually mess with Superman. Other than that I give you this👏👏👏👏👏

Depends on what a "Mary Sue" really is. If it's just "overpowered", out of context... well, yeah, he is one. (Although I'm not sure how you can even reconcile what "overpowered" is, if it's out of context.) There's a reason it's so hard to tell a good Superman story, there's a reason it's challenging to tell a good Superman story; it's hard to feel like there are any stakes, because he's so powerful. That doesn't mean it's impossible. There's a reason the All-Star Superman story is so beloved; the story where Jon has a heart-attack and none of Superman's prodigious powers are worth anything works really well too. I also *really* loved when Kyle Rayner, previously Green Lantern, became Ion... became, essentially, a God. And he thought Superman was resentful of him, because he put Superman out of work. But he realized that Superman was right to ask him to check his power. Superman works powerfully as a mentor figure, as an ideal we strive to live up to. Nothing wrong with aspirational heroes. My *favorite* tend to be more flawed and relatable (Superboy, Robin/Tim Drake, Kyle Rayner/Green Lantern or Ion or White Lantern), but the boy scouts, like Superman and Captain America are timeless. And I don't trust people who don't like those characters. They tend to be pieces of shit.

@@SchulzEricT It doesn't matter how powerful you make superman so long as you remember these simple facts 1. As powerful as he is, he still has weaknesses and vulnerabilities that can be exploited and used against him ( kryptonite, red sunlight, promethium, nth metal, powerful telepaths and magic) 2. As powerful as superman may be there are hero's and villians alike in the dc universe that are just as powerful as him (flash is faster, green lantern has far more diverse powers, captain atom, orion, despero, martian manhunter, starbreaker, magog, brainiac, doomsday, amazo and black adam) 3. As powerful as he is there are far more powerful entities in the dc multiverse than supes (dr fate, the phantom stranger, the spectre, myxplt, trigon, the endless, lucifer morningstar, the antimonitor and the presence) The problem i notice with people is they tend to overthink superman's powers and abilities and consider it a difficulty to work with a character with so much power while at the same time not making an effort to try and find out what adversaries superman has faced and what are their powers and abilities are so they can gage just what to pit him against to create tension in a story. Basically, anyone who says superman is too difficult to work with because he is so powerful, clearly did not make efforts to research the dc franchise and clearly is lacking in imaginative skill.

They're also missing the point of Superman. Superman isn't the best superhero because he's got the most or best powers. He's the best superhero because he will always help people, always. No matter who you are, no matter what you need, he will do his best to accomplish that. People focus too much on the SUPER, less on the MAN.

@@SkollMX superman, batman and wonder woman were all once transported to a magical realm where supes lost his powers, diana was blinded and batman lost all his gadgets . They were then descended upon by a horde of dinosaur men and they still managed to hold their own against them. Superman included, batman even said while watching "even without is power, clark is still worthy of the title of Superman". During the infinite crisis storyline when superman was fighting superboy prime and they were powerless. CLark said to him "it's not the powers that make you Superman, its action, about what you do with them that defines you".

Exactly. thank you for saying this

I think people also don't consider that this is a discredit to both Christ and Superman. It treats them as non-unique and their missions as something so common or wholesale, that you can take certain bulk traits from their stories and slap them on anything to cement that character, as noble and self sacrificing. Christ was the God of Abraham come to Earth to fulfill the Covenant forged with His creations and dying not just to be an example, but to bridge the gap between Heaven and Earth and overthrow the powers of evil for all eternity. His parents and humanity had nothing to teach him. Christ desired not to be amongst us, but for us to come and dwell with Him in the House of the Lord. Jesus came to Earth as a way to show his creations the bigger picture and how to succeed for not just a life, but for all of eternity. By comparison, with Superman, there is no such divine foresight or thought in his mission. Jor-El was not the Father bequeathing a divine protector on a fallen race that had failed to live up to a divine station. He was just a desperate man hoping against all hope that by launching his son away from a world he knew was doomed, that there might be some chance the boy could have a life. That some small part of the Kryptonian race would not be doomed to oblivion because of the willful ignorance of the Council in ignoring their oncoming demise. And once on Earth, Clark has the good fortune to be found by 2 wonderful people who raised him in a community that showed him the best that humanity could offer: togetherness, support, love and compassion. He took that all with him when he set out to be a reporter and it's what made him resonate with Perry White and Lois Lane. It's what convinced Batman to open up and let him become his best friend and strongest ally. It's the basis on which the Justice League's whole mission is founded. The human message that together, we can overcome darkness and that the path forward for our world is within us. But that we have to be willing to embrace Superman's point of view to get there.

I appreciate Snyder's take because I viewed MoS as trying to be realistic in how the world would react to such a thing, and not making all the correct choices as it is his first time fighting (in general) and it had to be such a monstrous task, continued by BvS:UE. I wouldn't even call him - the - "superman" just yet, another reason why I like they went with the title Man of Steel. While watching them, I always sensed that this was just the starting phase of his character and that at the end of his story he will become the icon, beacon, that he is to the world that we all know and love, but he's gonna have to earn it. Earn (most of) humanity's trust. I find that more realistic and intriguing than, I don't know... Going away for 10+ years with your space dad, come back and be a fully formed superman ready to save everyone, and in that time skip finding your identity and what you stand for. Watching interviews with Zack Snyder confirmed my suspicions, that was, in fact, his plan. Have him start a bit rough but by the end of the saga he will become - the - superman. I'm aware I'm in the minority (unless there's a silent majority who doesn't bother looking at internet criticisms), but Man of Steel (2013) is really what turned me into a Superman fan, which fit right into the media I like, which is mostly non-escapism and gives me stuff to think about and ponder. P. D. just as context, I had seen Superman (1978), Superman: The Animated Series and all DC animated movies up until this year before I watched MoS and BvS:UE, had no expectations other than supposedly both movies were bad, found out I quite liked them. (Though even the ultimate cut of BvS does have more legitimate problems than MoS but enjoyable enough for me to rewatch)

@@Guitarman5200 That's the issue. Snyder vision was all about "What if an alien came into our real world" instead" What if a nice guy from Kansas just happens to be an alien?

Doesn't help that Snyder thinks he's the first one to do Jesus symbolism with Superman even though it's been done for years. They even did it at the end of Smallville Season 9 where Zod stabs Clark with a blue kryptonite dagger and as Clark falls off a building his arms are spread out in a crucifix pose.

That makes Superman sound like someone we desperately need in today’s troubled world! 😊

People think that being bad is badass but what's badass is that being good is alot harder than being evil.

For me I prefer to be mentored by Superman than Goku because Supes tries to do his best while Kakarott just wants the thrill of the fight.

Spiderman is the most relatable

maybe not that far, SM is decently relatable

Hes also more down to earth than 99% of politicians.

@@semperfi-1918 I agree, especially Lex Luthor when he became President of the United States (yes that’s real).

He is still to this day the definitive on screen portrayal of Superman in my mind.

Absolutely agree

If he weren't relevant how come people always mimmick him.

We also need a Superman game.

Nick Young That might take more work than a really good Superman film.

@@hectordoblado4987 its more the mentality that leads to a superman movie that we need to return, the idea of hopefulness, the same reason we need old style star trek back, its all rooted in the same ideas imo.

Rhys, your comment made me realize we *already* have a really good Superman movie, the original with Christopher Reeve.

It may come in the form of Justice League.

Basically superman is not Homelander

"You see us as Gods, and in time, we began to think we are. Both of us are wrong" _Kingdom Come_

He is a god, no matter how much you pretend he isn't

@@friedfrog5447 He's not god. He made mistakes. He isn't omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent. He had moment of weakness.

@@friedfrog5447 By that logic any person with a combination of above average intelligence and physical capability is a demigod. If the capability to wield great power to enforce your will is all it takes to be a god then Lex Luthor is a god. Flash has control of time and timelines why isn't he a god? What makes Superman a god that doesn't apply to the other absurdly powerful heroes in his universe? Hell the Z in Shazam stands for Zeus and depending on the story Wonderwoman is either part or full god. Why not just do away with the title of superhero and call them all gods at this point?

Max Alain's Meme Stash Thought that was Routh.

Definitely. No. Relevance. To. The. Modern. World.

@@OwenLikesComics yes he is not relevant he is far above are time

@@yajat5477 Superman never made a billion dollar movie

@@khalinhalmon961 ok

@@yajat5477 I Superman suck All might is a better character than Superman

For an alien who can fly, he’s arguably more down to earth than most of humanity. I LOVE THE IRONY! ❤

Exactly, while Clark is biologically an alien, I think of him as a human. He was born on Krypton sure, but he never lived there. He never grew up with Jor-El and Lara, he grew up in Smallville raised by humans as a human.

👍 That's beautiful man.

@@mcurran6505 Thank you.

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@@antoniodarcy7913 To each there own. I wanted to like Snyder's version but it was just too dire and boring. On top of that Superman felt too much like a reluctant and passive character for this Superman fan.

All good luck to you in your pursuit!

Smallville is my favorite depiction of Superman

@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Mine as well! I guess to be fair though, Smallville had over 200 episodes to play with, more than any other live medium I think?

Really? Except in the comic books Superman is WAY more serious than Donner's version.

We'll always have his Superman/Green Lantern book.

Isn't Snyder's Superman also "kid from Kansas" over the "god among men?"

@@zhengyingli He's treated like almost a god but inside he's the kid from Kansas

Yeah irredeemable is in my opinion the only real good "evil superman" story maybe other than injustice I guess some might say the boys but homelander in the comics is more a representation of garth ennis' hate for superheroes the show just basically takes everything it does well with homelander from plutonian. It just sucks that it hasn't already been adapted because at this point I'm kind of sick of the whole "evil superman" trope. It's been done to death.

That's because they use Batman as a way to both point out why he's better and what Superman lacks when he should be compared to the likes of Spider-Man

Wasn't a big criticism against Snyder's version, from comics purists, that the character should not feel like an outsider?

@@suarezguy I think the criticism was more in HOW the outsider nature was handled. Snyder portrays it more as superman being "above humanity" and extremely detached from them to the point that he frowns all the time when saving people. In contrast the recent graphic novel "superman smashes the klan" also incorporates the idea that he feels alienated but the writer portrays that feeling as being no different than the feeling of someone who immigrated to the United states from another country and now tries to "assimilate" by concealing elements of who they are from other people.

You like Superman Returns now that's surprising

Routh was perfect. Still is. He exudes Superman's humanistic warmth & soulfulness. Cavill is a cold fish.

We sadly will never get that i'm affraid. At this point in time warner bros cares more about batman because he makes more money and as a result as far as they are concerned they can treat superman as poorly as possible.

Superman never made a billion dollar movie