It's not that we really hate change, we just hate how it changed. Go back as far as S5, that's when they stopped using railway series books to adapt and went with their own stories. S5 is my favorite season and is one of the most beloved seasons in the entire franchise. Change has been done before in the franchise, but the difference between S5 and what Mattel is doing, is that they gave a damn. Season 5 was beautifully executed, amazing sets and engaging action and stories and amazing narration. S5 was handled with care, passion and love and I would argue that it is one of if not the most popular season. So change has been done before, what matters is HOW they handle the change and it's complete bullshit how people say "well you don't like change." Change can be fine if handled with care, again, IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. This is just horrible, I have been following the franchise practically since I was born in 2003. I have had VHS's of the franchise, lived through the HiT and Sharon Miller Era, the Brener era, and now I am seeing all this shit. I am 18 years old now and I will forever love thomas even if it gets ruined I will cherish what I grew up with.
@DodotheNickelodeonFanboy2 жыл бұрын
@Kaiju Wolf if we just hold up our opinions, then of course we can survive on this breaking bridge. If we don’t support each other’s opinions, the show will die out
@Ethan-ey4jx2 жыл бұрын
What about TATMR, S6 and 7? They too also give a damn.
@DaiKaijyuu2 жыл бұрын
@@Ethan-ey4jx I didn't say they didn't
@Ethan-ey4jx2 жыл бұрын
@@DaiKaijyuu They too also handled their models and sets with care and made some cool sets.
@jarsofstuff2765 Жыл бұрын
Ye a lot of companies say that we hate the change and our opinions are invalid because we just hate the change that is more inclusive (looking at you marvel and Disney) or may have a new art style or different characters or new designs or new writing styles. Yeah you kinda said it best in that first sentence.
@filmbuffgamerguy48962 жыл бұрын
I doubt Cocomelon will have an adult following. The reason Thomas has an adult following was because it didn't play down to children. My stepfather used to watch Thomas with my step brother and he enjoyed the show as much as the child. Caillou for example had been around since 1997 and is there an adult following with that show? NOO!
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I can barely see a few with Cauliou, but Cocomelon? No. LOL
@supermariof05212 жыл бұрын
Unless Caillou's following is ironic, I find it hard to believe. Then again most of the audience opts to use a shitty animation tool to inact their sick fantasies of Caillou getting grounded.
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
@@supermariof0521 Yeah, I just don't get those.
@akram45682 жыл бұрын
I doubt that most modern shows will have adult followings as the years go on
@supermariof05212 жыл бұрын
@@akram4568 That's because a lot of kid shows these days are required to be for kids and kids ONLY. And the ones that do get away with an adult following, get fucked over by the company making said show.
@venomslayer32232 жыл бұрын
How ironic that even the small kids that this show was aimed at don't even like the show either
@dragonmaster15292 жыл бұрын
you what's worst Matthew Wright the show writer I think actually said this "Grow a Pair"
@chesapeakedproductions30092 жыл бұрын
It's like, what was the entire point of spending thousands of dollars on rebooting the worldwide known franchise because of the plummeting sales and bad reception, just to receive even worse reception?
@chesapeakedproductions30092 жыл бұрын
@GoTi4No no kidding. All of the reboots to fan favorite shows in the recent 175 years have been complete dog crap. Bob The Builder, Teen Titans, and now, Thomas & Friends. This it, the end of the long lasting fan loved shows era of media, and now we enter the copy & paste, 3 strikes cartoon baby show
@matese19122 жыл бұрын
I can kind of understand why a child would be creeped by reboot Thomas as seeing extend his wheels and walk like spider can scare very young child. But saying that it down right traumatized kids feels like something the newspaper company made up just to sell more copies. Parents and children have also complained that All Engines Go is just not Thomas and I agree
@IceLuigiStarPictures2 жыл бұрын
HiT Entertainment handled their shows including Thomas better then Mattel. They weren’t perfect but at least they did show respect and showed that they cared for their audience.
@Thomasmemoryscentral2 жыл бұрын
Merchandising is where they handled the show the best but they seemed to massively overdo aspects that affected the brand in the 2000's such as the 3 strikes formula mainly in Thomas going too fast at jobs
@IceLuigiStarPictures2 жыл бұрын
@@Thomasmemoryscentral but the 3 strike formula wasn’t used constantly in every episode. If we’re looking at one era that overuses the said formula, then that would be the Sharon Miller era
@Thomasmemoryscentral2 жыл бұрын
@@IceLuigiStarPictures True but the 3 strikes formula had its beta phase in the Hit model run. Essentially If the writers didnt have too much focus on stories, just slap Thomas with a 3 strikes formula special plot with rehash moral "be patient and dont rush"
@kylethedestroyer11172 жыл бұрын
MY MAN ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW
@kylethedestroyer11172 жыл бұрын
Well i guess they did better than the later half
@timberpony18142 жыл бұрын
If the word "Go" is in the name and its a reboot its going to be bad.
@inaciosthirdstudio2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I mean, look at Teen Titans Go!
@thomasthethermonuclearbomb77132 жыл бұрын
All engines go to the trash
@chazzywaz4 ай бұрын
Teen titans go All engines go Teletubbies: lets go They’re all related to the letter t too
@pancakerings2 жыл бұрын
that one dislike is probably from Mattel
@fexploder3281 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised.
@wakspacific69282 жыл бұрын
Remember when the worst thing in Thomas was Up Up and Away? Yeah I take that back.
@TankEngineReviews2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@fabionoronhazampieri7639 Жыл бұрын
Even the sharon miller era was the worst they still was thomas like trains being trains and not lonney tunes, at least the miller era unterstood what thomas is and was everthing was good the only problem was the lazy writing and rest was good I grew up with the miller era and i loved because it haved the core appeal of thomas the tank engine
@megalosaurusstudios22 жыл бұрын
The reboot makes misty island rescue look like a rws story
@Mr_Gamer-Random2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sonicfan2009_YT2 жыл бұрын
It makes Wonky Whistle looks like a classic series episode
@Mr_Gamer-Random2 жыл бұрын
It makes BWBA look like the best book from the railway series
@ronanvave5602 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Gamer-Random As Wilbert Awdry said: No.
@Mr_Gamer-Random2 жыл бұрын
@@ronanvave560 what do you mean no don't you get it
@brightredmogul19122 жыл бұрын
I think the reason some people find it ok is because it’s so easy for them to just pretend this isn’t the Thomas they loved Cuz let’s be real - it’s not
@FlamieDoc Жыл бұрын
They literally show Thomas and the new girl driving on grass. Not rails, just went full car mode and jump over a boat like bruh wtf
@ScrapyardStudios2 жыл бұрын
Kids are afraid of AEG because they don’t understand why Thomas looks so different to what they knew before this. A three year old has even said “That’s not Thomas!” & It’s even gotten to the point of genuine tears & I totally understand why. As a person with autism like some of these kids, I can say that change can be a fucking huge pill to swallow & especially at two years old coz there’s seemingly no reason for that change especially at such a young age. At that age you can’t really think of a reason why something is happening & you’re either happy or sad about how life progresses from that change & whether or not things will get better from that point going forward. Going off what you said about growing up alongside the series, we still have kids in the fandom under 10 who’s first exposure to Thomas was the Brenner era & upon seeing that, have since stuck by after going on KZfaq learning the show’s routes, seeing the plethora of fan content out there & just how so much people have so much of a connection to this franchise. No matter what happens to the show itself, it’ll be content creators like you & me who will strive to keep this brand alive & inspire the younger & newer people who come across this fandom & after they find the classic series on this website, they will be in love with it forever.
@christinejorgens65772 жыл бұрын
Beautiful speech. And the ‘plethora of fan content out there’ part of your speech has only driven my aspirations for my own series even more.
@amanfromthefuture70102 жыл бұрын
my man just wrote a whole article
@christinejorgens65772 жыл бұрын
@@amanfromthefuture7010 indeed, he has written an article. An article that will further increase the growing number of content creators who know how to do Thomas justice unlike what Mattel is doing, It’s motto is.. ‘We’ve got to have money!’
@amanfromthefuture70102 жыл бұрын
@@christinejorgens6577 money is all they are after its just mony mony money. all things we love are ether gona float but get ruined or sink under cause they arent about money or in thomas' case get ruind and sink BuT wHo CaReS AbOuT qUaLiTy, ItS FoR bAbIeS. 1 i care, i grew up wathing it i bought all the trains that i could thomas was the word for me and i care for it 2 just because its for kids doesnt mean you gotta be cheap better quality means the more likley your audence is gonna stick arround, and they grow up and have kids of their own then show their kids, cycle keps going, 3 nether me or my kids want your cheap excuse for a toy is that is selling well but falls apart to a touch it just doesnt sell well after a while the hill starts going down untill it flat lines
@amanfromthefuture70102 жыл бұрын
@@christinejorgens6577 then again at the rate that humanity is going everything is gonna be a sh!+tshow because of greed, and lack of care for others and thats the sad truth i still think we should be able to punnish others no matter the age gender or amount of money you got and be able to tell people "knock it off a$$hole you are (input reason) stop it and smack them upside the head" it would fix a lot of things not just thomas but other things like karens, they are being annoying?, SMACK if they are still doing it?SMACK AGAIN continues SMACK A THIRD TIME they will get tired of it eventually and stop
@c.syde65 Жыл бұрын
The idea of anthropomorphic trains jumping from one train track to the next sounds great on paper. But considering how realistic the railway and original TV series were, I'm like 'Hang on a minute!' Watching this review makes me so glad to have been born in 1995 and grow up watching the first five seasons in the late 90's and early 00's. Booting veteran characters like Edward, Henry, and Toby from the Steam Team and keeping non-Awdry characters like Emily was bad enough. But rebooting the show in a 2D form when there was nothing wrong with its 3D form? Like, come on!
@Jokerfan452 жыл бұрын
What you said at the very end is true. We don't have to bicker about the reboot or end friendships or anything like that. It proves skeptics towards adult Thomas fans right, the fact that Thomas is for "babies or children." That makes us look bad. I'm not crazy about the reboot, and you are right. It wouldn't have to get such harsh treatment if it didn't replace the main series but actually ran along with it. Mattel needs to stop ignoring the adult fan base.
@Thomasmemoryscentral2 жыл бұрын
Even the teenage fanbase that have fond memories of the Hit era as inaccurate as it is for Sodor in the mid 2000s know BWBA TO AEG isnt Thomas And Friends. Heck the merchandise back then has the advantage of being good despite many of their episodes being mediocre.
@theamazinggamer1112 жыл бұрын
7:21 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT! Someone finally set the people who call us Thomas fans "weird" straight!
@inaciosthirdstudio2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad. I as well grew up with the original Thomas and Friends cartoons and seeing a reboot like this really makes me miss the originals.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid2 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel better, apparently the target demo, kids, think it's an ugly baby show. Not my words. But the words of actual kids. 🤣
@ReaverLordTonus2 жыл бұрын
"Thomas is a baby show" is BS, it wasn't meant to be at the beginning, sure it was a series of books for children, but not freaking toddlers, but more developed children and even their parents that can appreciate the subtle moral messages of the stories. That was Awdry's reason for making it. Remember, Disney created Disneyland not just for kids, but for kids and their parents together because those kids will grow up and keep coming back and bring their own kids.
@Dronkey642 жыл бұрын
I officially HATE the 2020s. It is the decade of just KILLING everyone's lives and childhood. 2010s one is enjoyable both for kids AND adults.
@funnyclown25142 жыл бұрын
That and the Coronavirus.
@Dronkey642 жыл бұрын
@@funnyclown2514 yes Covid, fun places shutting down, especially buffets even dam flashplayer was killed by 2020. Just cuz.
@AlexanderPerez-hv4nu Жыл бұрын
Products made in china (like H E washers, plastic products)
@matthunter4826 Жыл бұрын
Same! Mostly for me because automakers are going all-electric.
@AlexanderPerez-hv4nu Жыл бұрын
And Tik Tok
@LeaderOfTheTracks2 жыл бұрын
Another reason why the HiT era was so good, The Great Discovery was a great closure to the model era with a great story and pretty much every character was developed at that point. But the cgi era got Thomas animal friends or the royal engine which weren’t even good episodes.
@funnyclown25142 жыл бұрын
Royal engine was actually decent. In fact there's episodes in the BWBA era like Heart Of Gold, Hunt The Truck and The Great Little Railway Show that are actually well made and I think those episodes managed to be better than most HiT era episodes. In fact the HiT era still has a lot of bad. Edward Strikes Out, Any of Skarloey's episodes, The majority of Emily's episodes, Thomas and the New Engine, Thomas' Frosty Friend and Don't Be Silly Billy are all really bad episodes that changed the characters' personalities completely. Edward became an asshole that can't accept new arrivals, Emily became fussy, rude and impatient and Skarloey we do not speak of how they butchered him..
@amanfromthefuture70102 жыл бұрын
i red that as the cgi era got thomas anal freinds
@johncolston47582 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the worst part is? We never got a behind the scenes look for All Engines Go. No interviews, no footage of the voice actors recording their lines, no shots of how they produced it, no tour of the animation facility, no podcasts, nothing. It feels as if Mattel and Nelvana are too ashamed of their own creation to show us the making of the series and it’s movie Race for the Sodor Cup.
@Pearl226 Жыл бұрын
I think we got a clip of Bruno's VA recording his lines.
@waggsmith58892 жыл бұрын
A reboot so bad, even parents and young children hate it.
@FlamieDoc Жыл бұрын
I was born in 2006 but my uncle gave me the episodes of Thomas from the classic era and the hit era (not fully hot era since it cut out after gordans crash with the jam wagons) I remember being in awe everytime I opened my computer to watch those episodes especially the crashes and specials. All those got yetted tho after the pc got upgraded from windows 7 to 10 so I went to yt and searched for modern episodes. I wish I did not do that. Like they went from awe inspiring sceneries models and scenes to screaming Henry, glowstick engines who's whole personality was "gotta go fast" and Percy on god Percy, he went from a fun guy to a literal baby. And toby went from a old sage to the anxiety ridden one. I so wish I could go back in time to where only the model seriese was the Thomas i saw. And not THEY MADE IT LITERALLY BABY WHYYYY
@wakspacific69282 жыл бұрын
I realized something after watching the She Ra reboot (by Mattel). It's not Mattel's corporate figureheads fault, but rather the fault of the small team handling Thomas (Rick Suavalle, Ian Mcue) literally having no idea on what they are doing.
@Lismism20232 жыл бұрын
Well there’s that, but there also might have been pressure from Mattel to turn the show into something more “child friendly” and that’s what we got.
@wakspacific69282 жыл бұрын
@@Lismism2023 Given that Chuggington got a revival around last year, what if the reboot was pushed to be a last ditch effort to kill it?
@Lismism20232 жыл бұрын
@@wakspacific6928 Chuggington or Thomas?
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
@@Lismism2023 Chuggington I think. As much as a I hate the reboot, yeah, Chuggington should... yeah.
@wakspacific69282 жыл бұрын
@@Lismism2023 The Thomas reboot might have been a last ditch effort to kill its longtime rival.
@Ethan-ey4jx2 жыл бұрын
Michael White also cares, and he made some episodes during the BWBA that stood out to be good.
@tamitate20092 жыл бұрын
I will admit Neil crone should keep voicing Gordon he just sounds so good. Idk when Neil crones gonna pass away but I still hope he makes it far
@Thomasmemoryscentral2 жыл бұрын
Rather neat they bring Neil back 1 year and 2 decades after he got cast in Magic Railroad and while the voice isnt entirely similar, glad it's not so theres distinction between his Gordon of the 2000s and 2020s
@michaeltedford29472 жыл бұрын
James is my favorite thing in The Reboot
@Cenation97407 ай бұрын
@@michaeltedford2947😂 reboot sucks
@michaeltedford29477 ай бұрын
@@Cenation9740 I take that back. James also sucks. I was kinda just a sucker for returning characters. So that's why I said that. But yeah. The whole reboot sucks
@Cenation97407 ай бұрын
@@michaeltedford2947👍
@Samuel31nation2 жыл бұрын
That ending was emotional
@aniruddhaalbums6878 Жыл бұрын
If Wilbert Awdry was alive today and saw the reboot , He would write Thomas and the Magic railroad is Railway series
@leokimvideo2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the way you need to see season 25 is it's make for 2 - 5 year olds. If this fails Thomas will implode and disappear forever. We all agree once the idea to make Thomas 'international' (off sodor) was always going to fail we need to be thankful that idea is buried and it does feel like someone in brain dead Mattel is looking very carefully to make Thomas popular again. Today your dealing with children who are addicted to digital devices and have attention spans shorter than a Joe Biden speech that makes any sense. Thomas AEG is made to key into this new screen brain zapped generation. From the early signs it does look like it's very successful. If I was seeing all the new AEG toys just sitting collecting dust well Thomas would not get to his 80th celebration year.
@jacobjcb888310 ай бұрын
Kids need better stuff than this though with actual heart and soul put into it
@Chadington_Steve2 жыл бұрын
You know its bad when the guy who likes misty Island rescue hates it
@SrMechaGojira932 жыл бұрын
Wilbert Awdry’s Railway Series - 10/10 Christopher Awdry’s Railway Series - 9/10 Britt Allcroft/David Mitton - 9/10 HiT - 9/10 Season 12 - 1/10 Sharon Miller - 5/10 Andrew Brenner - 8/10 BWBA - 1/10 AEG - 0/10
@TanVasinTrains2 жыл бұрын
Why Mattel decided to make Thomas shit, I think, Mattel should make a new show about other trains in the US and say based on TTTE, but NO! They decided to slap the ttte brand on it
@mohammedgeedi25419 ай бұрын
MOHAMMED GEEDI: Here are my thoughts on the T&F eras of the franchise. #01: Wilbert & His Son Christopher Awdry (But the other Railway Series books should be adapted in full CGI along with Thomas and the Magic Railroad) #02: Britt Allcroft & David Mitton [Seasons 1 to 7] (But they should fix all of the HiT Era crap and the Nitrogen Era bullshit) #03: HiT Entertainment [Seasons 8 to 12] (But they shouldn't butcher or flanderize any of the main characters) #04: Nitrogen Studios [Seasons 13 to 16] (But the 3 Strikes Formula should be cut out along with all of the annoying alliteration, repetitive rhyming and the sloppy writing) #05: Arc Productions [Seasons 17 to 21] [Sir Topham Hatt should listen to his engines instead of completely and utterly dismissing them for no reason)
@nicholasgutierrez1912 жыл бұрын
I miss Thomas I hope they bring him back if they don’t Bring him back i am going to cry. So I will make this animation when Thomas Got happy with you guys for not forget him what time it will always love you guys and great time we are have ❤️
@Redfirekid972 жыл бұрын
Awdry is rolling in his grave because of this shitty reboot
@jodysmith80482 жыл бұрын
I think Christpher Awdry is so maad right now to see his fathers work beeing treated like this
@thefatcontroller40942 жыл бұрын
Michael Angelis also loved Thomas, he was narrator from season 3 all the way to season 21! Then when he died Mattel is like, "now we haven't got anyone here anymore to tell us were doing too much to Thomas, LET'S RUIN THE SHOW!" damn it Mattel
@Wildcatt19992 жыл бұрын
He actually narrated up to Season 16
@Wildcatt19992 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernRailfan4501 and Mark Moraghan narrated the show from Season 17 to 21.
@johnylitalo4163Ай бұрын
That is why, I don't trust corporate giants and I don't support them, I support and trust good people and original creators.
@jodysmith80482 жыл бұрын
Thomas & Friennds was praised at one point because it was a show that children with special needs could enjoy without being overwhelmed
@littlebacongreengreatweste26062 жыл бұрын
“EEEH IT’S BITSEEY SPIEDUR” 😂😂
@Hewylewis2 жыл бұрын
I commend you for being very mature with your thoughts on the new cartoon. Well done. :)
@motormouth24722 жыл бұрын
Many people will bring up how Awdry once said "If the Americans get their hands on the series, it will be bastardized and ruined." However I'm willing to bet there are MANY American people and even companies out there that would actually give a shit about the series, including me.
@alunjones68232 жыл бұрын
I've been a big fan of Thomas and Friends for God knows how many years and Mattel had to go and ruin my childhood hero with this Abomination. And you know what's worse about the reboot? In one episode, the writers made Thomas call Edward and Henry "trains" as if he doesn't recognise them at all. So, thank you Mattel for ruining mine and everyone else's childhood. I hope you're happy with yourselves. As Gordon, Henry and James would say, this series is disgraceful, disgusting and despicable.
@Wildcatt19992 жыл бұрын
Guess what, All Engines Go's score on imdb is lower than the Annoying Orange TV show. Which if you didn't know, is considered by many to be the worst show to ever air on Cartoon Network (Yes even more than Teen Titans Go!). When your show is more hated than the Annoying Orange, you know f**ked up BIG TIME.
@emeraldphoenix58682 жыл бұрын
This Reboot is gonna fail,I just know it.
@manolilafazanis4480 Жыл бұрын
Mr troublesome junction you have given me so much impact about the beloved show, and I think you should do a review of bullet train ttte on your next milk tank episode. If and when you have the time to do so.
@fishpop2 жыл бұрын
I think the "Look how they massacred my boy..." meme is very fitting for AEG.
@TrevortheTrainFan2 жыл бұрын
While I do agree that this reboot is awful, but to be honest, I actually agree with the kids and parents on the new 2D Thomas because his blues eyes made him look like he wants to stare into my soul! No offense, but I would rather have my two nephews watch BWBA or any of the previous seasons of Thomas because they deserve MUCH better than All Engines Go.
@cinnamonmantrainsareawesom7224 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@TrainsAndMarvelFan20210 ай бұрын
I so agree with you Trevor As much as I’m not a fan of the BWBA era as a whole It does have some gems 💎 in that era Plus it’s lessons are still good But AEG will never hold up in the years following Plus because of this reboot you can’t defend mattel anymore people
@maxwellsweirdzoinker2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I don't care about All Engines Go. I don't have an opinion nor bother to have one. Cause there's no point in having one.
@LuigiTheMetal642 жыл бұрын
The Mattel show will probably die faster than the E2 tank trains' lifecycle. E2 tank trains are intended for short distant loading, and are scrapped.
@douglasthescottishtwin39892 жыл бұрын
Remember the lives that were lost 20 yrs ago.
@inaciosthirdstudio2 жыл бұрын
You know, I generally do not understand why the company wanted to make the tank engines sound like children. They were fine the way they were.
@luvblueybingoheeler31502 жыл бұрын
Yeah it doesn’t fit them. Other shows have kids voice kids but they been doing that from the start and I think it fits the characters/show. Kids voice don’t seem to fit Thomas and the other engines.
@inaciosthirdstudio2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Heck, I created Eric the Green Engine and I gave him a child’s voice but I did it in a way that can fit his character/personality.
@sonicfan2009_YT2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, AEG is a separate continuity from the main series and the Series 25 thing was a working title
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
Dude, we know. Obviously it's not part of the same canon. The problem is that there's no main show to come out alongside it to justify its existence.
@luvblueybingoheeler31502 жыл бұрын
@@margogoralski6294 Hasbro was smart enough to do that for Transformers.
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
@@luvblueybingoheeler3150 Yep. Another reason why Hasbro needs to take over.
@wilbertawdrypictures56472 жыл бұрын
He's right, We need to set aside our differents and stand together like a real fandom/community, like a real family 😟😞😔😓😢😭. The outsiders and trolls talking shit to us is not our problem, not anymore. We have to stand together if we want to save this franchise once more, let alone our Fandom. We lost too much stuff already, we can't lose this community to a pack of outsiders, corporation fallowers, and hypocrites who views us as poison for no F****n reason, So just please let go of that anger, set aside your differents, and just work together to stop mattel, save this franchise and fandom, and clime back to the Top, it's our only way to keep the magic of this franchise and fandom alive, our only way, We our the franchises and fandom's only hope now 😟😞😔😓😢😭.
@jarsofstuff2765 Жыл бұрын
6:12 - 6:38 Thomas was praised overtime by adults because it had impressive writing, amazing visuals and overall just a lot of effort put in by people who care. 10 to 20 years from now I don’t think anybody would ever come back to Cocomelon and it’s gonna be like how Cailou crashed and blew up into smithereens because once their audience grew up nobody remembered it and when they did they hated on it HARD because there was no effort and it teaches bad lessons. Great vid tho!
@backstagestudios8616 Жыл бұрын
As a true Thomas fan(only the classic series), I’ve been creating my own series.
@darkchaotix1productions3262 жыл бұрын
You know it's bad when even the younger generation has an issue with the show.
@ciarandaragh8676 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@vsolou Жыл бұрын
I don't think aeg is bad, it's...decent yet I'm a thomas fan and I grew up seeing some of the movies and episodes (I grew up in America so it was rare) the first piece of media of t&f was calling all engines I thought it was great but I rewatched it now and...it's a boring movie
@phylliswyatt5390 Жыл бұрын
Kids are not stupid. They know that they don’t want to be talked down to.
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, that message falls on deaf ears to corporations
@PlushiePluto2 жыл бұрын
If/when I have kids, I will not be showing them bwba and aeg. Absolutely not.. Edit: I won't show them because I prefer the older show before this rebranding. I mean if they wanna watch it.. They can on their own time.
@mysticmorgan86882 жыл бұрын
I think everybody's goal is to tie down everybody who works at Mattel to the tracks and have Thomas run over them only there will be no damsel rescue cliche. I'm well aware that might be taking it too far but tell me you don't want to do the same thing.
@DanielGomez-gw4kt2 жыл бұрын
Troublesome Junction now like what you have said on this video, I agree with you I don't like when other adults say oh Thomas is just for kids. It's a baby show and so forth, because they don't know what they're talking about, and they really hurt our feelings when they say that. Because if we grew up with the show, and learn of how the show was made. When it first started with the Railway Series books, and how the books were inspired when they were written and so on, based on real life British railways. And based on real life British engines, and the show is in realism at the same time. So other adults would find out and when we tell them about it that that's the truth behind Thomas so they can stop judging us. And they can stop telling us to grow up. When they get to know all of that and understand all of that, they have to realize that Thomas is one of those that makes us fall in love with trains. Before we get to experience a real life train when we are toddlers at first, and when we grow up with real life trains and think that Thomas is part of it all. And if we get to work for all of that, those adults that just tell us to grow up, it's a baby show and so forth. They need to realize that we just want to be happy, and we want to try to make the world a better place. Because having entertainment with trains, and that they are brought to life as characters in a make believe world. And they're based on realism, is one of the things that we love so much. And that we try to blend it all together when we grow up on real trains and try to work for real trains, just to make other people happy and make the world a better place. Without all of that, we as Thomas fans and fans of railroads and railways would be nothing, and the world would not be happier without all of that as well. So because we grew up with all of that, I know that we as fans want to make people happy and make the world a better place as well. Making the world a better place with something that we grew up with, and share it with everybody else. Including the mix of realism, of something that inspired it can blend in even with good entertainment and even stories. Is the most important thing to make other people happy, when we share and talk about all of those things that we grow up with. And inspire us to do something that is real, and that realism inspired the phenomenon of whatever we grew up with, so other people can be happy with it. Especially new generations of kids, and if we just stick to ideas like that that is one of the greatest and happiest moments we can do to make the world a better place. Doing all that to make the world a better place, with no controversy, no anger sometimes but above all no war. So we can get together with other people as a team to make it all work, and that other people when they enjoy it with lots of happiness they can get along with other people especially us fans👍😉
@bow-tiedengineer44532 жыл бұрын
Ooh, another fun comparison: Imagine if they made a baby show of The Hobbit by J.R.R Tolkien. That's also kids media, made in the same general era as the first RWS books, by someone who put the same amount of care into it as the Rev. W. Awdry. How about making a baby show of that?
@eggballo44902 жыл бұрын
It's already bad from a business perspective. Think about it, wouldn't Mattel make more money if they reached out to more demographics?
@adultmoshifan872 жыл бұрын
As Mr. Enter said when he reviewed the Teen Titans GO! episode The Return of Slade 6 years ago, kid’s programming needs extra care! I have no idea why Matt£l would do THIS to Thomas! They fucked up once with Bwubah and they fucked up again with this! And it’s showing! Seen the recent press coverage on how families and small children are NOT taking this Thomas retooling at all well? AEG is doomed to fail, needs the tax writeoff treatment and Matt£l, if what I’ve heard about them being in financial trouble is true, should just sell Thomas to a company who’d actually care! If I ran Channel 4, I’d get back into the kids TV business and buy Thomas off Matt£l in a heartbeat! I’d rerun the model seasons and get to work on a new series, retelling existing stories, adapting RWS stories not originally adapted for TV, have original stories and even retell the HiT era’s better stories! I’d also give the existing seasons 1-24 full DVD (re)releases, the older seasons using the original footage, even including the nameboards! (I’d source footage from foreign language masters if I have to!)
@tamitate20092 жыл бұрын
The hit eras not too entirely bad. Season 6 was not perfect cause of Alecs divorce. Season 7 is my number one favorite Thomas season of all time! I would say only good thing for the Miller era is hero of the rails I only like all engines go because Neil crone plays gordon and they brought back bulstrode
@tamitate20092 жыл бұрын
If one day they switched back to cgi Mattel should probably either write differently or they should just hire a new writer who actually CARES about Thomas and friends. I also think they should bring back lady and have her be voiced by Britt mckillip. I’d also love to see rob rackstraw as boco if he comes back. Idk which other actors would be perfect for voicing older characters
@jibaontim89752 жыл бұрын
The only thing that was good was hero of the rails? hopefully youve seen blue Mountain mystery
@tamitate20092 жыл бұрын
@@jibaontim8975 never have seen blue mountain mystery. In my opinion I don’t like that movie.
@islesofforeignrails79172 жыл бұрын
@@tamitate2009+ Really? Luke's character and arc had guts to his tragic backstory and misunderstood murder of Victor that was close to what the original series depicted years ago when the SKR fleet protected and kept him hidden in the quarry cause his life's secret is on the line. BMM has been heavily underutilised like HOTR and it still holds up as a Thomas & Friends movie without economical reasons.
@tamitate20092 жыл бұрын
@@islesofforeignrails7917 but wasn’t it technically crankys fault that Victor was knocked into the sea?
@cluelessretro9876 Жыл бұрын
I can only truly say I agree with this 💯%… I mean, I’ve already accepted things were never going to change in the Thomas universe anyway. And at this point, I’m just over it.
@akram45682 жыл бұрын
Since this is a crappy spinoff it would be cool if someone gave their take on what would probably happen to the actual show
@akram45682 жыл бұрын
😪 I'm also a fan of many shows including total drama and spongebob
@1f5sda Жыл бұрын
I am in my early thirties and I have enjoyed Thomas since my early life, teen years and even now. But, when I saw the prototype image of Thomas for All Engines Go, I felt disgusted and refuse to watch the series.
@champbaka2 жыл бұрын
Facts is a lot of parents who are buying Thomas merch for their children grew up with the franchise. Kids don’t pay, the parents do, so Is it wise to piss the ones who are paying?
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
Another great video from you as always. Couldn't agree more.
@wilbertawdrypictures56472 жыл бұрын
Me either. Also I love your Thomas and friends nut shell video (the one when you use Jurassic world: fallen kingdom footage to create that nutshell)
@margogoralski62942 жыл бұрын
@@wilbertawdrypictures5647 Wow. Thank you very much. That's an honor to hear.
@wilbertawdrypictures56472 жыл бұрын
@@margogoralski6294 Your welcome 😉.
@mcbenman17932 жыл бұрын
reverend awdry didnt just make the railway series just for the parents, he also wrote them for the railwaymen who wrote back praising awdry for the accuracy of the books
@TylerTheHedgehogOfficial2 жыл бұрын
FUCK ALL ENGINES GO!!! And the saddest Thomas death, besides Percy's Sodor Fallout Death.
@masterfarr82652 жыл бұрын
the fact they bounce on and off the tracks makes any conflict pointless
@wethermanofmemes2 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing I’ve ever seen, I’m talking about the railway series not this dumpster fire of this reboot, the only reboot I like is Thomas wood to Thomas wooden railway. There is my opinion
@asafjuarez12 ай бұрын
As bad as this reboot is, it at least has a few hidden gems in it
@kalenvx1232 жыл бұрын
Great Video I love your take on Thomas
@dwainsimmons3447 Жыл бұрын
The “it’s made for kids” excuse is really a hypocritical excuse.
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
Ikr? Shows like Arthur and Gravity Falls are aimed at younger demographics, and yet they have some adult elements
@FictionalADDON2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people disagree before but now we’re just milking it
@vaya-dragon199822 күн бұрын
6:10 Bluey is a recent show yet that has a MASSIVE adult following. Other than that, I agree with most of your other points
@fexploder3281 Жыл бұрын
I am going to be honest, I now know how bad the Sharon Miller era was unlike when I was younger watching the Sharon Miller era but I'll say nowadays, the Sharon Miller era looks like season 5 compared to AEG if I am honest. I mean, the Sharon Miller era had the laziest basic writing findable in a Thomas & Friends episode but what Mattel did to Thomas & Friends?! Absolute bullshit. What Mattel did to Thomas & Friends was an absolute disaster that was nothing like what the show was supposed to be. Going back to the Sharon Miller era, I say its season 5 compared to AEG because although the writing was horrendous, it stuck to the basic concept of the show since it looked nothing like a cartoon and didn't have the engines, rolling stock and etc moving their own bodies in uncanny ways. In the Nitrogen era however, the characters' bodies were only moving and bouncing around since the animators wanted to represent momentum in the engines and everything while Mattel is the one who makes the characters' bodies move in uncanny ways. This also carried on to the BWBA era which also was a great faliure like AEG and also was a sign that Thomas & Friends was about to die. For the BWBA era, they also had very bland around the world sets with a lack of effort put in for the individual sets, downgraded the animation possibly because of the many around the world sets, and replaced Henry and Edward for horrible reasons. And I am telling you, Nia and Rebecca will never be as good as Henry and Edward since they don't have the proper character development and that they replaced very original characters like I said. The BWBA era went on for about three seasons before AEG was unveiled and to no one's surprise, it was just horrible. They completely butchered the show and turned it into a 2D toddler cartoon as we all know it and this time the show likely won't come back unfortunately. And I will say, the Sharon Miller era really did nearly destroy the franchise and all but at least Andrew Brenner came in and tried to fix those problems luckily until Mattel messed up Thomas & Friends again but for good pretty much. If Thomas & Friends were to come back to normal, we don't know what would be done to fix it and we don't know who would try to save this franchise again for right now so, yeah it's pretty much dead and likely won't be coming back. RIP Thomas & Friends 1984 - 2021, the show will be missed by many people and Mattel will just continue to go through hell with backlash as we all know it.
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
At least the legacy of the classic era will live on.
@fexploder32817 ай бұрын
True.
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
@@fexploder3281 No crappy reboot will ever take that away
@JDT-Loadsamoney2 жыл бұрын
I want to go into mattel hq, cover myself in oil and light myself in the middle of it while recording
@Mr_rice1234519 күн бұрын
I remember when I first watch AEG and I heard Percy say that they were scared of the dark IN A TUNNEL WITH LIGHTS!?!? I died that day 69 times
@ThomasYang727Ай бұрын
All Engines Go made Miller era looks like season 1-5
@HolyKhaaaaan2 жыл бұрын
Well that first five seconds was traumatic.
@WillowTommyJones-jy6dk2 жыл бұрын
the Thomas reboot is AWFUL. I am sure 2 years from now is will be cancelled!
@chesapeakedproductions30092 жыл бұрын
You know, if Mattel got the brain cells to make All Engines Go specifically a childish spin-off running alongside the main CGI series, that could possibly make up revenue for failing CGI sales. If it was a spin-off, that's double the possible sales that could be made! Mattel's excuse of "We made All Engines the main series because of plummeting sales" was complete BS. Again, AEG along with the CGI series could be DOUBLE THE POSSIBLE PROFITS! WAKE UP MATTEL!!!!
@ThatRetroGuy2005 Жыл бұрын
It won't ever happen to sega though I would love to see sonic boom get another chance because that reboot had alot of potential
@SuperPsychic1012 жыл бұрын
Well....AEG is TECHNICALLY a spinoff series separate from the original main show. They made that clear
@TroublesomeJunction2 жыл бұрын
Not really if it’s replacing the main show tho :/
@SuperPsychic1012 жыл бұрын
@@TroublesomeJunction whatever, dude. All I just want is everybody to calm down. Everyone be going primal and feral about this. I have been trying to calm some people down but they won’t listen
@TroublesomeJunction2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPsychic101 I agree with you on that and that’s what I talk about at the end of the video. I don’t like the reboot but the amount of people lashing out at each other in the fandom is ridiculous. Especially when people who hate it say “you aren’t a true Thomas fan if you like it”.
@SuperPsychic1012 жыл бұрын
@@TroublesomeJunction I know I’ve tried to talk to people to calm down but they won’t listen
@amazingscout612 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPsychic101 can’t win them all, if people are willing to rage about it and not listen to you than let it go. It’s not effecting or harming you irl so don’t work yourself up. Just put in your input and if they do care than that’s that
@jcjessica2 жыл бұрын
When I let my little sister, who ISN'T even a Thomas fan, see the AEG designs, her reaction was, "It looks so low-budget!"
@RMSAquitaniafan552 жыл бұрын
I don't like the reboot one bit at all, but I do think its a bit over hated. There are a few elements of the reboot that I like, being: Neil Crone reprising his role as Gordon, Bulstrode making a return is nice to see, and ignoring the fact that this is a Thomas series the artstyle is honestly kinda enjoyable to look at. Again I don't like the reboot at all but the criticism is excessive and partially undeserved. As much as I hate to say it Thomas was doomed to go this route eventually, but at least we have the rws, the Model series, and the Brenner seasons to continue enjoying til the end of time.
@filmbuffgamerguy48962 жыл бұрын
In the next 50 years people who probably doesn't understand or know about the first 5 seasons they will see as if a 78 year old man is into Cocomelon or Baby Shark. If the Michael Brandon era of Thomas didn't ruin the reputation of Thomas to the general public enough.
@Thomasmemoryscentral2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Hit era of Brandon and Angelis only got that way because Hit seemed to lack at times reasonable understandable of the Sodor universe and often overdo bad ideas eg Sjatloey and Rheneas being children just because the NG engines are small. Marketing and merchandise from their side can produce great profits but man did they mismanage the show
@funnyclown25142 жыл бұрын
It's actually the HiT era. Which was the majority of Thomas in the 2000s' which went from Seasons 8-11 (I don't count Season 12) yeah it has nostalgic value with good merchandise but it was clear that they did worse than Seasons 1-7
@filmbuffgamerguy48962 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you and I just like calling the Hit Era the Micheal Brandon era which I combined the Hit era and Sharon Miller era in one era. Theres probably an adult following with Caillou asides from parodies and GoAnimate crap but I don't agree with the Caillou part of that other comment you applied.
@funnyclown25142 жыл бұрын
@@filmbuffgamerguy4896 No I don't think there is. I've never heard of an adult above the age of 18 that still likes that show. There's things made in the past that did NOT get an adult falling because of how bad they were.
@funnyclown25142 жыл бұрын
@@filmbuffgamerguy4896 For example do you see people nostalgic for the Garbage Pail Kids Movie looking back saying it was great? Of course not because no one liked it! Just because it's old doesn't mean it will always gain an adult following.
@EerierFish162 жыл бұрын
You just got caught in 4K. Congrats on 4K subs.
@TroublesomeJunction2 жыл бұрын
Thank you king 👑
@trainboy-hc9uw2 жыл бұрын
You proof so much, like if the fan base ends Thomas basically end completely and really so much of CGI is better than the reboot it's definitely not the best, but the reboot could probably go worse, also I been a Thomas and friends fan for a decade, I seen all episodes besides the books, and become a train driver is my dream
@brandonwarner25732 жыл бұрын
and they don’t Rev Wilbert Awdry name is not in the credits, I’ve been a fan since the airing of Shining time station, and before the death of Awdry, I think is a insult to Thomas fans , and the hard work of.Britt Alcroft. This show will never be the same. This is Mattel’s Thomas not Britt Alcroft or Awdry Thomas.
@VegitoTheBest2 жыл бұрын
Facts + nice frieza hat
@TroublesomeJunction2 жыл бұрын
A fellow Thomas and dbz fan. You already have my respect.👑
@arthurbermejo6402 жыл бұрын
Ok but guys I have a challenge for you Take a shot Everytime when They bounce and Body movement and jump and stretch.
@tot_Robbie2 жыл бұрын
This season 25 reboot is a disgrace to not just the fandom, but to the original creator of not just the model seires. But the person who MADE the rws stories. I cant believe all the time and effort of the previous creators gone to SHIT simply hurts me. I grew up with this blue e2 class locomotive with a face. So what is this just a "kid show"? This show made many peoples childhood. I can understand the plan of making it for kids. But to go as low as this. And to also see the merchandise get fucked as well also hurts. Because i'm pretty sure im not the only one who wants orginal trackmaster. I hope mattel realise that this "NEW" season/show will most likely do AWFUL. I love trains. Especially with trains with faces. But at this point i would expect sharon miller at this point. And i do admit that gender equality is kinda bullshit. Because there was girl locomotives in the show. I do miss the CGI era of thomas. Its a shame and an embarrassment. Thomas to me was a reality i could escape, something that can make me happy. This is probably the most darkest time in not just the show, but also the fandom. This fandom is again the only thing that is keeping the blue steam locomotive alive. I want to thank Britt Alcraft and David Mitten forget giving a childhood that i never thought that i would love this day. And of course the ORIGINAL creator Wilbert Awdry. I will miss the old days of this show, franchise, and merchandise. See ya. Sorry for the long speech lmao
@sebasllaura72542 жыл бұрын
I started watching Thomas during the Hit era and I even watched some parts of Thomas and the Magic Railroad. All I can say is they're a gazillion times better than All Engines Go.
@jodysmith80482 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% I just will never understand why with all the people who love Thomas & Friends around the world why there's no one big enough that has enough mony to take Mattel to court over Thomas & Friends there has to be some one out there in this world
@OptimusPrime2982 жыл бұрын
You know what would have been? Andrew Lloyd Webber adapting the reboot as a 2d animated music tv show similar to how he almost had that in 1973-1977
@Ethan-ey4jx2 жыл бұрын
And needn’t I mention Gullane Entertainment too, who worked on Thomas during Series 6 and 7? Gullane had a lot of good and creative episodes, memorable characters, and they too also care about Thomas.
@MikeAndRevioAdventures2 жыл бұрын
Mattel is gonna pay for what they did to the Thomas & Friends series.
@luvblueybingoheeler31502 жыл бұрын
When I listen to AEG and not watch it, I imagine them being different characters.
@mahiru20ten Жыл бұрын
They could've made AEG as a normal 2D animation. Think of the CGI era or Model era Thomas but animated in 2D. That would be way better.
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
Not really
@mahiru20ten7 ай бұрын
@@armorpro573 Well... why?
@armorpro5737 ай бұрын
@@mahiru20ten I rather prefer no reboots.
@mahiru20ten7 ай бұрын
@@armorpro573 Me neither, but I wonder what Mattel could've done better. They could have read the criticism from their Bob the Builder remake or something before trying to remake another toy franchise they recently own.